Sheeples or Comfortable Wolves?

Guest Post by Mary Christine

Way back on Sept 8, 2023, Tom Luongo tweeted this out and started a disagreement with some of his followers about the label “sheeple”. I had completely forgotten about the exchange until I saw his article on Zerohedge where he dredged the whole thing up again and doubled down. The tweet shown in his article is not mine, I’m bcsurvivor7 but Clash and I were mostly in agreement and his replies were to both of us.

Tom called me and any others who disagreed with him nihilists.

“Nihilism in public is simply not a good look. seriously.”

Merriam-Webster defines nihilism as:

[noun] a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless. a doctrine that denies any objective ground of truth and especially of moral truths.

He should have looked up the word before he used it. It could be he was judging us based on just a couple of tweets, which is not any smarter than calling people sheeple. However, he claims in his article he doesn’t like to judge people. I agree that sheeple is not a nice term and we won’t win hearts and minds calling people derogatory names.

I replied that I was a realist. Here is the definition of realist, again from Merriam-Webster:

realist: [noun] a person who recognizes what is real or possible in a particular situation : one who accepts and deals with things as they really are.

Jesus was hardly a nihilist and yet he called people sheep. I think he knows humans better than we know ourselves.

The American Heritage Dictionary defines sheeple as:

People who unquestioningly accept as true whatever their political leaders say or who adopt popular opinion as their own without scrutiny.

Maybe it is derogatory but the definition fits.

Tom doesn’t like the term “sheeple” for the very reason that it is derogatory. So then he calls them “normies” in this tweet: (a direct reply to my tweet that we can’t vote our way out of this)

“It’s not about ‘voting our way’ out of this mess. It’s about forcing them to expose the hypocrisy to those who still believe that we can!
There are millions of normies out there that still need to believe the system isn’t terminally corrupt.”

Normie was harder to find a satisfactory definition for because the definitions were all over the place but KnowYourMeme.com defined it as:

a slang pejorative label for an individual who is deemed to be boringly conventional or mainstream by those who identify themselves as nonconformists.

Well, that’s not very nice, either.

Tom thinks a better term is “comfortable wolves”.
Hmmm, wolves hunt in packs and prey on the weak and defenseless. That’s exactly what people would act like if the food runs out. But it doesn’t say much for humanity, does it?

Tom doesn’t like to label people sheep so he labels them wolves. Then he goes on to label people who, for the most part, are agreeing on what the problem is but disagreeing on labels, nihilists.

How about we quit arguing about what to label people and just continue to try to keep waking people up?

I could go on and on about Luong’s incoherent article but most of the readers here are quite intelligent. I will just let you all decide for yourselves.

Tom will probably not like my reply to his article and I expect he would triple down. That’s the problem with us non-conformists. We tend to end up in a circular firing squad. Meanwhile the Davos crowd, who sees far too many of us pushing back, is planning on how to put a stop to us. We better stop arguing about stupid labels get our shit together, and fast.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/davos-trust-end-comfortable-wolves

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Josey Wales
Josey Wales
January 22, 2024 2:34 pm

WOW DIDN’T KNOW THE WORD ‘SHEEPLE’ WAS THE NEW “N” WORD. GUESS WE CAN’T USE IT ANYMORE???

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Josey Wales
January 22, 2024 5:31 pm

Stop screaming.

It's WAILS. JOSE WAILS to You, Gringo
It's WAILS. JOSE WAILS to You, Gringo
  Anonymous
January 22, 2024 8:37 pm

“Stop screaming.”

Ed
Ed
  Josey Wales
January 23, 2024 8:24 pm

Twat you say? I cunt hair you.

Daddy Joe
Daddy Joe
January 22, 2024 2:40 pm

MC, Thank you. normies, and sheeple, and wolves, O my!
Labels represent divisions, and so your last sentence “we better get our shit together and soon.” Unfortunately in spite of all the accomplishments of western civilization its entire history is best described by your image of the circular firing squad. Since ancient times if there was anything to separate or divide the white race and set it against itself then the lines were drawn and the killing started. Theology, politics, economics and everything in between have all been used as excuses to annihilate each other and provide some flimsy justification for the bloodshed.
This perpetual clash of Big Enddians vs Little Enddians has finally honed itself to the point that it represents an existential threat. The more prescient among us have been screaming for years “Tribe up or die”; but instead we not only keep labeling and dividing but have actively embraced the barbarian ways which were antithetical to our forebears. Seems like the tribe/hive mind is just not in our genetics, or perhaps we just see that as a weakness.
So as you say we better get our shit together quick or we all die alone, each one with their thin line drawn in the sand surrounded by a pile of hot brass. What good has that done when your enemy is not afraid to have babies when times get a little rough?. Western man has more than a few fatal flaws. Labels and our artificial divisions are among the worst.

Jeff Greenlee
Jeff Greenlee
January 22, 2024 2:53 pm

to: @bcsurvivor7

I agree with your explanation and characterization of Luongo. He is a special “piece of work” and I liked him enough at first to take out 2 yearly subscriptions for a healthy pricetag. Finally, he became unreadable, with wanton ignorance and arrogance (phrase borrowed from the definition of “hubris”).

Instead of saying what he believes in correct English grammar, he puts out some sort of coded messages that I guess “normies” are supposed to understand and be in awe of his copias abilities and confess to our diminutive comprehension. Since he is so much smarter than us, I can only guess that what he is saying is “sheeples” is terrible and “comfortable wolves” is better. He still hasn’t figured out yet just how corrupt and evil (yes, that is the best word for even attempting to blow up the entire world and all the fake fiat money systems).

Oh well, he blocked me because I disagreed with him and reamed me out about many things if I dared to even attempt to offer competing thoughts, even if they were easily proved to be correct. One example: the Nordstream pipeline fiasco. Seymour Hersch was on this right away and named the corrupt deep state operatives’ culpability, yet Luongo vacillated between Davos, the WEF, Great Britain, and Poland or some combination of them without inciting even a hint of the US/NATO kleptocrats/traitors headquartered in Washington D.C.

I could go on for a long time, but I know the opposite of ‘love’ is not ‘hate’ but ‘indifference’. I guess maybe indifference is the best way to handle the potty mouthed TFL.

Gary
Gary
  Jeff Greenlee
January 22, 2024 3:05 pm

Good points. My only suggestion would be the opposite of ‘love’ is ‘fear’; one expands, the other contracts.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Gary
January 22, 2024 8:46 pm

You got it, and indifference is one of the forms of fear.

Steve
Steve
  Jeff Greenlee
January 23, 2024 5:16 pm

He also makes bizarre claims in order to steal the conversation. Like saying that Yellen had a chance at the WH or that The West allowed Israel to tax Gaza because Egypt wasn’t playing ball with the IMF.

Gary
Gary
January 22, 2024 3:02 pm

I enjoy reading Tom’s articles and listening to his videos but, honestly, most people are apathetic and ignorant cowards. They choose to look the other way because they prefer having smoke blown up their ass while scorning any responsibility of shining a light of truth on the darkness of this world. They just don’t ‘care’ about truth (truth being merely that which has already occurred, pass-tense)

‘People who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals which have none; such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent.’ (Silent Weapons for Deadly Wars)

While the term ‘sheeple’ may be slightly derogatory, dumb people ARE bad people.

aClue
aClue
  Gary
January 22, 2024 3:36 pm

As opposed to neverending commenters not being Bad people? One points out the issue and does nothing more and the other ignores the issue and does nothing more? Wheres the skew?

Comfortable Lions would have been a better assertion. Watch what happens if they bring it to Americans Doorsteps. Its still nebulous, but thats about to Change it seems.

Gary
Gary
  aClue
January 22, 2024 7:26 pm

We should be speaking up and putting our voice out there on the internet. Start a channel, make content, mirror content from others, financially support those who are speaking out. There are a lot of people who complain and do nothing themselves; ‘to know and to not do (speak out) is to not know’.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Gary
January 22, 2024 8:13 pm

Would you idiots start doing nothing rather than fighting ‘in the narrative’? You look at the White Shoah and think, gee, we be lozing da news narrative. Wez have to start fighting moar better in da news narrative.

Do you sponsor puppets for government office? Do you control presidents? Do you control the narrative for dumbfuck Muricans such as yourselves? Education from preschool on up to dead? You think you can compete at that?

There is but one ingredient that I don’t dare name that is the only ingredient that matters. Your genetics must be fucking abysmal to not get it yet. Not only is culture upstream of politics, but politics is downstream from culture. Those are the only two theaters of war, and you are not competent at culture war. “They got you by the balls”, said George Carlin.

#StillNotGettingIt

Education has been happening for millions of years. The self-destructively stupid are culled so those who are not can be fruitful and multiply. Why is this so fucking hard for you idiots?

Num. nuts 31, you dumbasses. You are the tail and not the head if they will lend and never borrow, unless you exercise the traditional downstream solution. Fucking idiots. “Dis be a spiritual war.” “Dis be an information war.” I mean so many of you here. I am an idiot to think I can communicate to idiots. Shit or get off the ecology pot, dummies. Not a woman’s world, dummies.

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BL
BL
  'Reality' Doug
January 22, 2024 8:32 pm

Who do you have by the balls RD? Your dog?

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  BL
January 22, 2024 8:37 pm

^^^Case in point.^^^

BL
BL
  'Reality' Doug
January 22, 2024 8:46 pm

Yes, you are the case in point, bruh. ^^^^^^^^

NEVER could stomach a Brown nosin' sychophant...
NEVER could stomach a Brown nosin' sychophant...
  'Reality' Doug
January 22, 2024 9:07 pm

…And it’s Highly Unlikely that we’ll engage in any substantive Q & A, given Your propensity to being Sooooo obsequious…

but what u bee talkin’ ’bout, Willis?

“Their (sic) is but one ingredient that I don’t dare name that is the only ingredient that matters.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

substantive Q & A

🤣🤣🤣 You idiots will never learn. You got mind [[[goggles]]]. Muh (((bible))).

But of course. In deference to Your...
But of course. In deference to Your...
  'Reality' Doug
January 23, 2024 2:38 pm

…superperior intellect.

Even wasted was totally absorbed for the 4:18.

Ya wanna champion sending someone to certain death? Free Will. Self Explanatory.

15 And he wrote in the letter, saying, Set ye Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he may be smitten, and die.
16 And it came to pass, when Joab observed the city, that he assigned Uriah unto a place where he knew that valiant men were.
17 And the men of the city went out, and fought with Joab: and there fell some of the people of the servants of David; and Uriah the Hittite died also.

Applies to everyone.

THAT’s the ‘Reality’, Doug

fujigm
fujigm
January 22, 2024 3:20 pm

Yeah.
I’m just passing through…

aClue
aClue
January 22, 2024 3:34 pm

What a dumb article. How about we all just agree to come together and FORCE ACCOUNTABILITY of the seated Authorities since they willfully PREVENT IT. Anyone Else trying to nit pick the issue is just trying to form their Own Following, which is as dumb as the existing groupings today.

Ed
Ed
  aClue
January 23, 2024 6:53 am

Don’t you just hate it when they start that random capitalization thang?

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 22, 2024 3:40 pm

Everytime I tell everyone to lay down their installed differences I get called an atheist or satan worshiper.

I keep calling for peace.
But violence is in the air.
Far too many will be lured to their deaths persuing it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
January 22, 2024 5:32 pm

It’s a surprise how many who claim to follow the Prince of Peace seem to be warlike.

BL
BL
  Administrator
January 22, 2024 5:12 pm

Now do that to Luongo. Whoever he is.

Ed
Ed
  Administrator
January 23, 2024 6:54 am

Damn, that stank shoe sure beats a clicker.

Bill Castle
Bill Castle
January 22, 2024 4:52 pm

Let’s keep doing whatever it is that we’ve been doing, that isn’t making anything any better, but at least gives us something we can complain to each other about.

Diogenes' Dung
Diogenes' Dung
  Bill Castle
January 22, 2024 5:43 pm

So you are the genius writing the VP’s speeches!

BL
BL
January 22, 2024 5:05 pm

Who is Tom Luongo? Nobody to me.

I don’t give two shits what the guy said or didn’t say, I’ve never read his tweets because I don’t read tweets. Why do ya’ll care about tweets, or anything to do with the twittering Mr. Luongo.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  BL
January 22, 2024 5:57 pm

Thanks, BL. You made my point.

I apologize for asking people to read his stupid article that Zerohedge published.

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
January 22, 2024 6:08 pm

With all the shit we have to endure, why would this guy’s opinion be worth hashing out over unimportant BS that NOBODY cares two hoots about? I feel the same way about all this tweet BS, it’s mindless .

Good Lord! Mary, I hope Luongo reads this thread, he needs a reality check.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  BL
January 22, 2024 7:28 pm

BL, I’m still on twitter because I still find worthwhile things to read there. But it’s starting to become a bit boring so I don’t know how much longer I will be there.

Luongo has a decent following and I just felt I needed to call out his bull. He won’t read it because as some said above, he’s tends to be an arrogant blowhard.

Gordon Ramsey
Gordon Ramsey
  Mary Christine
January 23, 2024 5:42 pm

Arrogant judgements.
There’s a lot of that going around.
Superiority complexes. The wise guys,
always searching for any chance to throw
another jab. Another shot fired; conflicts be damned.
A turnoff. But then, some aren’t here to make friends.
Bitchfests are preferred. A drag. Energy drain.
Opt in / Opt out. Choice point.
The kitchen gets hot sometimes.

Uncola
Uncola
January 22, 2024 6:33 pm

We know what The Borg wants, so we know what they will try next. If we tell unaware people (i.e. sheeple) what is going to happen and it occurs, then, some might start thinking for themselves and researching on their own.

But… a few problems…

– Sometimes The Borg makes sure Plan A doesn’t happen in order to confound and discredit truthtellers. This way, Plan B or C moves forward (or the names are changed to protect the guilty) as truthtellers are ridiculed on “fact”checker sites about false conspiracy theories regarding Plan A

– The Borg’s assimilation of the free internet is near complete. Truth is dissappearing online as A.I. f*ckery grows. And search engines are broken.

– Most people sheeple want what The Borg wants. Or, at the very least, they don’t care. After all, the Super Bowl is coming up and a new season of “The Bachelor” is on too

– It’s pretty late

Of course, there are more considerations but these are just a few for now.

Eventually… The Borg will inevitably implode by the weight of its own bullshit.

In the meantime, there will be ignorance, apathy, and math. And name-calling. And good people trying to stay good.

Thanks for the thought-provoking post, Mary. Principles probably do matter more than (some?) people?

BL
BL
  Uncola
January 22, 2024 6:45 pm

If only the Borg would implode before they do their big rug pull. Sheeple wise up real quick when there is nothing left to lose.

Ed
Ed
  BL
January 23, 2024 7:01 am

” Sheeple wise up real quick when there is nothing left to lose.”

Actually, that’s what Tom Luongo was saying with the comment that got his ass swarmed back then. When they wise up, the wolf’s fangs show. MC might just still be a little butthurt over being snapped at while Tom was surrounded by jackals and flailing around fighting them.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Ed
January 23, 2024 8:27 am

Maybe you didn’t comprehend what I wrote. Wolves travel in packs and prey on the weak and defenseless. That’s no better a term than sheeple.

If I got butt hurt that easily, I would have left this place a long time ago. You must be new around here.

How about contributing an article Ed. See if you can take the flaming that comes with it, huh? No?
Thought so.
If you read the comments on twitter, you would know that Tom got a lot of sheeple to go along with him.

Ed
Ed
  Mary Christine
January 23, 2024 8:31 pm

I understood your piece perfectly. I especially enjoyed the way you claimed that Tom called you and whatsisface nihilists when he had simply said that ‘nihilism is a bad look”. I don’t read or comment on Twitter, or what was once called Twitter. You must have much more time to waste than I do.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Uncola
January 22, 2024 7:00 pm

“In the meantime, there will be ignorance, apathy, and math. And name-calling. And good people trying to stay good.”
Yup, that is reality.
And you didn’t even do it with having to link to one or two or three or four of your previous essays. well done.
(Hey, no disrespect man, love your writing and thinking).

Uncola
Uncola
  ILuvCO2
January 22, 2024 7:43 pm

Lol

I link to previous time-stamped articles because I have been making a case and… as I stated above (see? I did it again)…

If we tell unaware people (i.e. sheeple) what is going to happen and it occurs, then, some might start thinking for themselves and researching on their own.

It’s all about the documentation of evidence

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Uncola
January 22, 2024 8:16 pm

I get it! just raggin’ on ya! gotta have humor….

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Uncola
January 22, 2024 8:58 pm

Unaware people. That’s a much nicer term than sheeple.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
January 22, 2024 10:59 pm

True Believers.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Uncola
January 23, 2024 7:45 am

If we tell unaware people (i.e. sheeple) what is going to happen and it occurs, then, some might start thinking for themselves and researching on their own.

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I have had a very different experience.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  hardscrabble farmer
January 23, 2024 9:04 am

Yeah, well…you’re far from alone in that.

Uncola
Uncola
  hardscrabble farmer
January 23, 2024 3:11 pm

Me too. Sigh. There’s always hope, though. Hence the words “some” and “might” in my comment. Fingers crossed

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
January 22, 2024 7:29 pm

Thanks to those who took the trouble to read the stupid article. I feel vindicated.😉

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Mary Christine
January 22, 2024 8:20 pm

We appreciate you MC. Don’t sell yourself short! Like I do sometimes….

“Does anyone else feel like me?”
I’m so over-dosed on apathy
And burnt out on sympathy
.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
January 22, 2024 8:26 pm

Great, now you can wallow in self-satisfaction for your character assassination of a man who is actually on your team, even if he did offend you a bit. Get over yourself.
Repeal the 19th!

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Anonymous
January 22, 2024 9:01 pm

He assassinated himself, no name. He presented himself as self-righteous then proceeded to be condescending. He shot at people who were mostly in agreement. I have no need to get over myself but maybe you should have a look in the mirror, dude.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
January 23, 2024 11:20 am

That’s your interpretation. Actually he objected to the idea that most people are sheeple, and makes a good supporting argument. Your argument is just classic female shit-testing. Kindly get back in the kitchen and learn how to make sandwiches.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Anonymous
January 23, 2024 2:18 pm

makes a good supporting argument.

How so? Break it down for me. I don’t make sandwiches for foolish men. You need someone to make a sandwich for you? What a loser.
Most of you obviously have no reading comprehension.

karalan
karalan
  Mary Christine
January 23, 2024 11:34 am

Your use of language alone is enough to disqualify your point. He ‘presented’ himself as self-righteous? Really? Who on earth would do that? Someone might be self-righteous, or behave in such a fashion, but no one ‘presents’ themself that way. Hurt feewings notwithstanding, you have no real argument and no grounds for complaint. So please don’t bore us with more of your tripe.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  karalan
January 23, 2024 2:15 pm

Karalan, your comment is a boring non-argument. You present no alternative as to why I am wrong and the arrogant blowhard it right.

Steve
Steve
  Anonymous
January 23, 2024 5:20 pm

I agree with MC. Luongo is seriously irritating. And often wrong. The sign of a good blogger/commentator is that they can admit that they ain’t God and that they get things wrong. Those far better than Luongo like Col MacGregor and the Duran guys can do that; he can’t

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Mary Christine
January 23, 2024 9:05 am

I stopped halfway through. Where does that leave you?

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 22, 2024 8:07 pm

well.. all you have to do is listen to Tom for 5 minutes to know he loves the sound of his own voice. He is about as egotistical as one can be and can not admit that he is wrong even when it is obvious that he is… this is why I believe he went away from chemistry and into finance and politics. In finance and politics one can always b.s. their way into being ‘right’ because they were early or it just hasnt happened yet.

Steve
Steve
  Anonymous
January 23, 2024 5:22 pm

Yep. He has this great “Theory of Everything” into which all facts have to fit, no matter how inconvenient. He thinks he’s the only person in the world who has realized that Powell and the Fed are in the pockets of the big US banks.

thrakatuluk
thrakatuluk
January 23, 2024 1:42 am

That pushback is starting, witness the parents taking on the indoctrinational establishment, the sheriffs not enforcing some of these stupid gun laws, the asians suing New York for school discrimination, and the information coming out about the coronahoax, kill shots, and J6. I bet it will become more unified as the election draws near and the dim-libs pull more of their evil shit. No one is going to believe Trump didn’t get elected. That’s why they’re already developing a plan to sabotage his presidency and Yuvari is saying he won’t be surprised if it happens.

People are also starting to see they don’t play by the same rules we do. This will bite them (davos) in the ass hard because it will eventually turn into us against them. As technical as they can be, davos isn’t very smart. The fact that they feel like they need this reset is evidence enough that they’re not competent enough to run things. They should leave it to God.

I prepare, build relationships with people around me, and do a lot of praying for that unity.

Steve
Steve
  thrakatuluk
January 23, 2024 5:22 pm

Thanks for some optimism – people are way too negative here.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
January 23, 2024 2:50 am

Luongos an excellent read with accompanied great ideas and opinions
See I used the word opinions?
Why argue over that?

k31
k31
January 23, 2024 6:13 am

My opinion on Tom has always been that he should stick to chemistry.

Ed
Ed
  k31
January 23, 2024 7:08 am

After reading a few of your recent comments, I can see why you might have that opinion.

Ed
Ed
January 23, 2024 6:48 am

OK, MC, but Tom’s pretty good at what he does. Flailing a little is typical of all of us when being tag teamed over a remark. I wish you better luck the next time you’re being gang-flamed the way he was back then.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 23, 2024 7:52 am

How about “retards”? You gotta be fucking retarded to believe politicians, the news, the weather report, your doctor, fucking any of it. Everyone is either lying or outright wrong.

wxtwxtr
wxtwxtr
January 23, 2024 3:05 pm

Sheep? Wolves?
Isn’t that the R/K Theory?

Steve
Steve
January 23, 2024 5:14 pm

I find Luongo’s an arrogant prat. He hates being contradicted.