“Growing your own vegetables is bad for the planet”

Guest Post by Kit Knightly

Another blatant step in the plan to control our food

Have you ever made a prediction and wished you’d recorded it?

Last week, in a phone conversation with a family member, they happened to mention growing their own vegetables, and I said in reply “Enjoy it while you can, they’re gonna start claiming it’s causing climate change soon.”

Literally four days later

Apparently, a new study from the University of Michigan has found that “urban gardening” is 5 (or maybe 6, they’re not sure) times worse for the environment than “conventional crops”.

I don’t know how they calculated it, and it doesn’t really matter. If you read the bodies of the articles they even say it only applies to some vegetables in some places and it all depends on how the “infrastructure” is put together.

The details aren’t the point. The point is yet another weapon in the war on food. More regulation, more commercialization, less freedom, all in the name of “fighting climate change”.

And if you’re doubting that’s the agenda here, check out the sheer number of government research agencies which the “supported” the research project:

Support for the project was provided by the UK Economic and Social Research Council, German Federal Ministry of Education and Research, French National Research Agency, U.S. National Science Foundation, Poland’s National Science Centre, and the European Union’s Horizon 202 research and innovation program.

It’s a fairly obvious case of needing a study to support a position, going out and and buying one.

This is one of those stories that exists simply to be a headline, so some pundit can quote it on some political panel on primetime TV and start a conversation about “regulation”.

Since we started with a prediction, let’s end with another one: This is just the first step, and you don’t have to be paying especially close attention to see where it goes from here.

They are never going to make growing your own vegetables illegal, they are just going to make it increasingly difficult.

It will start with licenses, for food safety purposes or something. Maybe an outbreak of a disease will be linked to people sharing food from their allotments.

Licenses will be increasingly expensive, and come with restrictions. You’ll only be allowed to use seeds from specific approved vendors, seeds of GMO plants which “mitigate the impact of climate change”. These seeds will likely be “terminator seeds”, meaning they are sterile in the second generation.

And, in that fashion, growing your own vegetables will no longer be an individual and independent experience, but just another corporate subscription service.

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55 Comments
Ginger
Ginger
January 25, 2024 6:54 am

You can actually find the article referred to by searching ( yahoo Carbon footprint of homegrown food five times greater than those grown conventionally ) , otherwise it is actually hard to locate. It is in the Telegram so that says a lot.
From the article:
‘Jake Hawes, a PhD candidate at Michigan and first author of the study, said: “The most significant contributor to carbon emissions on the urban agriculture sites we studied was the infrastructure used to grow the food – from raised beds to garden sheds to pathways, these constructions had a lot of carbon invested in their construction.’
So he basically is saying it is SCIENCE to take the square feet of a raised vegetable bed and set that raised bed including the material it is built of and place it in a plowed farm field and say ” Look here, this raised bed with its boards has a bigger carbon foot print than the plowed field that has no boards, give me a PhD quick,”

Anonymemes
Anonymemes
  Ginger
January 25, 2024 9:46 am

Did the cocksuckers subtract the carbon from the farm planting, spraying, harvesting, shipping, processing, shipping-again, purchased by consumer, driven to individual locations by thousands of cars, some only picking one item up at a store.

Yeah, I guarantee if you factor in all the inputs on commercial farms, the difference in carbon is negligible.
But the nutrition comparisons?
The home grown food will probably be hundreds of times more flavorful and nutritious than anything a commercial farm will produce.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anonymemes
January 25, 2024 11:14 am

Probably more carbon in the packaging of the processed food than the entirety of my raised bed garden,

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  TN Patriot
January 25, 2024 11:21 am

I repurposed thirty year old salvaged wood for my raised beds. These people are literally insane.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Harrington Richardson
January 25, 2024 11:53 am

You are missing the point H R. Think about how much CO2 was used making those boards in the first place, plus the carbon for building their initial structure, tearing down the structure, transporting them to your place for you to expend additional carbon building your garden. /s

I made mine out of concrete blocks and this is the 7th year to amortize the carbon used to make them. All tilling is done by hand so the only carbon comes from my lungs.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TN Patriot
January 25, 2024 5:01 pm

Stop huffing and puffing. Save the planet. Well maybe save an acre or two?

Tom MacGyver
Tom MacGyver
  TN Patriot
January 25, 2024 6:42 pm

Yeah. How about those “boutique” free-range, cage-free, organic eggs being sold… in PLASTIC EGG CARTONS?…

realestatepup
realestatepup
  Anonymemes
January 25, 2024 3:40 pm

The entire article is a LIE. They don’t want to, nor need to take anything ‘into account’ when they just blatantly lie.
Anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together can read this and KNOW it is a lie. The only people who will fall for it fell for all the other bullshit and are hopeless anyway.
Same as how grass fed beef/chickens/pork are ‘more harmful’ than CAFO raised animals. Try telling that to the people who live near a commercial hog farm.
So many pants are on fire.

Gne
Gne
  Ginger
January 25, 2024 4:55 pm

If they applied that same reasoning to electric cars and windmills, there wouldn’t be any.

invisible
invisible
January 25, 2024 7:32 am

U of M is the most libtard school in Michigan. The most libtardiest of them all.
Not a surprise they are involved.

Martin
Martin
January 25, 2024 7:33 am

Their study ignores transportation costs for commercial sites, rule of thumb is it takes a pound of diesel to move a pound of lettuce. But their study does include unnecessary and unproductive local equipment like plastic sheds and raised bed lumber. Who could doubt a couple of hundred pounds of plastic shed and decorative lumber has a bigger carbon footprint than 2 gallons of gas for the rototiller.

This quote tells the tale : “For each site, the researchers calculated the climate-altering greenhouse gas emissions associated with on-farm materials and activities over the lifetime of the farm. ”

So sure, if you ignore one set of costs and multiply another a study can have any number of foolish outcomes.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Martin
January 25, 2024 11:23 am

I bet they are not eager to do a similar study regarding wind mills and solar arrays.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Martin
January 25, 2024 1:51 pm

The study ignores a million things. It ignores what it set out to ignore.

It is a tale told by idiots. Full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing … except fake virtue and an intent to enslave decent, normal folk.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 25, 2024 7:35 am

I don’t need anyone’s approval to feed myself.

Bob
Bob
  Anonymous
January 25, 2024 8:25 am

Codex Alimentarius. Your All Benevolent World Overlords disagree.
Also, the Amish farmers that are being raided by the feds because of whole milk understand where the All Benevolent World Overlords fit in this picture.

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
  Bob
January 25, 2024 8:42 am

Don’t start worshiping the Amish too much. I live near them and most perception is shaped by movies. Some of their farms are absolutely disgusting.

One in particular is a dairy farm clearly overcrowded with cows. The field is about 6 inches deep of mud and shit. There is little to no grass and they are fed hay & grain. Running through the field is a stream that could only be described as a sewer drain.

Also, who do you think runs the puppy mills?

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Arizona Bay
January 25, 2024 10:45 am

My experience with the Amish could not be more different than what you describe.

Goat!
Goat!
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 25, 2024 11:12 am

Yeah, I’ve never seen any amish farms like that either, though I will say a muddy mess isn’t unusual on a farm and is hard to avoid in busy areas the wet times of the year.

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
  Goat!
January 25, 2024 9:05 pm

I agree. I’ve grown up around and working on farms. This is shit and mud. No grass.

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 25, 2024 9:04 pm

I stand by my observation and will add more. Here they are driving out the local construction businesses because they can underbid by dodging many taxes and insurances hiring ‘family’.

I had the chimney on my home repointed by an Amish crew before I knew any better. It lasted 1 year before it started leaking. I found a non-amish mason to look at it. He took pictures and showed me they had used green spray foam and painted it white to look like mortar.

Here, everyone deals with them once and rarely a second time.

WTF
WTF
  Arizona Bay
January 25, 2024 5:21 pm

Libtard much?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
January 25, 2024 7:06 pm

Remember that if you ever get Operation RanchHand-ed.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 25, 2024 7:42 am

Bayer rules now on how, when and where food can be produced. (old Monsanto).

VOWG
VOWG
January 25, 2024 8:03 am

How about using those who do not want people to grow their own as fertilizer. Good for the planet and free people everywhere.

zappalives
zappalives
January 25, 2024 9:10 am

I currently have over 200 veg.garden seedlings growing indoors.
Does that make me a master criminal ?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  zappalives
January 25, 2024 11:17 am

FIB SWAT team will come knocking down your door at 0400 some morning when you least expect it.

SheWhoShallNotBeNamed
SheWhoShallNotBeNamed
  TN Patriot
January 25, 2024 2:42 pm

Then they’ll probably be after me as well. I have an unheated greenhouse in Idaho that’s helped to feed us this winter.

What I’m still wondering, is what the ultimate purpose is to the USDA wanting people to register their gardens. I can think of several end games there, none of them beneficial to most people.

zappalives
zappalives
  TN Patriot
January 25, 2024 4:06 pm

I like my chances in this deep red state rural backwater.
The shitbox niggerhole I left…………thats another story.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  zappalives
January 25, 2024 7:43 pm

I sometimes worry that I am still too close to Memphrica. Last night, a young lady was followed home by 3 Memphricans who tried to car jack her in her driveway. She put the car in gear and sped off with them shooting at her. This was in a small town just 12 miles away and occurred less than 1/2 mile from our daughter’s house. Obviously, she was not paying attention or she would have seen her 15 mile tail.

Anonymony
Anonymony
  zappalives
January 25, 2024 6:18 pm

I currently have over 200 veg.garden seedlings growing indoors.
Does that make me a master criminal ?

I don’t know but…an FBI deer, a couple of DoD rabbits, and a few seal team gerbals are on their way to seize the contraband produce and turn it into pellets.

Eat a pellet, make a pellet:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=eat+a+pellet+make+a+pellet&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXz3exHVYDb4

Capt Barty
Capt Barty
January 25, 2024 9:31 am

Useful charges for FEMA to use under NDAA. Makes it all warm and fuzzy.

Anonymemes
Anonymemes
January 25, 2024 9:41 am

This is one of those stories that exists simply to be a headline, so some pundit can quote it on some political panel on primetime TV and start a conversation about “regulation”.

And so the concept can enter the water cooler vernacular.

Daddy Joe
Daddy Joe
  Anonymemes
January 25, 2024 11:37 am

The other phrase that needs to enter the water cooler vernacular is;” corporate subscription service” Nearly every product now produced is designed to become obsolete and thrown away as soon after purchase as possible–even more so with any digital product. Medicines made and sold to create dependency instead of wellness. It has become standard corporate practice because stupid consumers have made it wildly successful. It won’t change until folks relearn to buy quality or learn to do without if only junk is offered. The EV mandates are at the forefront of the current battle.

Pierre Delecto
Pierre Delecto
January 25, 2024 11:35 am

The USDA also wants Americans to register their home gardens. I always assumed this was so they could confiscate food when needed or tax, but now one more reason for enforcement.

SheWhoShallNotBeNamed
SheWhoShallNotBeNamed
  Pierre Delecto
January 25, 2024 2:45 pm

As I stated above, I would love to know their end game. I did not, and will not, register mine. I don’t care what kind of carrot they dangle in front of me. At the moment, you just get a nifty little plaque, and get to show off pics on their garden club website.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Pierre Delecto
January 25, 2024 3:17 pm

I don’t have a home garden, I just have a lot of vegetables that grow in various areas of my property. It is amazing what heirloom seeds can produce.

S.Lynn
S.Lynn
  Pierre Delecto
January 25, 2024 11:31 pm

The USDA sends us a several page census every year. It burns with our paper goods.

Goat!
Goat!
  S.Lynn
January 26, 2024 12:07 am

I don’t even think they try to send me one anymore.

JBnID
JBnID
January 25, 2024 11:37 am

Why should we worry about what the insane is worried about? Just laugh at the idiots and keep on living life.
In a sane world, Detroit would be plowed and planted and the natives would be growing their own food…..and know what a hoe is.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  JBnID
January 25, 2024 3:18 pm

Detroit certainly knows what a hoe is and it is not the kind with a wooden handle either.

JBnID
JBnID
  TN Patriot
January 25, 2024 4:30 pm

That silent ‘e’ is important.

Why hasn’t some enterprising soul repurposed those tremendous auto factories into indoor gardens? The infrastructure is already there. Raise poultry on the ground floor and hydroponic gardens above.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  JBnID
January 25, 2024 7:49 pm

Here’s a video of someone doing it in NJ in an old U S Steel building.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  TN Patriot
January 26, 2024 12:40 am

But just how ‘real’ is that food — i.e., how genetically modified is it? How many chemicals are used in growing it? How much energy does it take to power all of those lights and the rest of the manufactured infrastructure?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anthony Aaron
January 26, 2024 9:15 am

I have no idea, but I like the concept of using old buildings for hydroponic farms and yes, it is quite expensive to build and maintain.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 25, 2024 11:41 am

This is all Satanic horseshit. All life is carbon based, and carbon dioxide is what plants breathe. These communists can go to Hell.

BL
BL
  Anonymous
January 25, 2024 3:50 pm

+ 1000 Anon, that covers it nicely.

WTF
WTF
  Anonymous
January 25, 2024 5:23 pm

I’ll even help expedite their journey.

spanky
spanky
January 25, 2024 11:58 am

How will Gates and the rest of the Globalist scum be enriched if I grow my own food?

R Ander
R Ander
January 25, 2024 4:12 pm

Centralized planning for agriculture – just like Stalin getting rid of all the individual farmers, resulting in starvation of millions (but not the ruling party members).

Tom MacGyver
Tom MacGyver
January 25, 2024 6:39 pm

Actually, I think this study generated more greenhouse gasses than “urban farming” due to all the methane given off by the study’s BULLSHIT.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 25, 2024 7:03 pm

My half-assed prediction is that any potential crackdowns or regulations will be for sellers, not people growing just their own. Because most people are too lazy, and it’s hard to grow enough without buying, selling, or trading.

OTOH, some seed companies prioritized commercial operations and wouldn’t sell to individuals when covid first shut down.

Walter
Walter
January 25, 2024 9:11 pm

My garden certainly produces less carbon than my earth day tire burning tradition. While the tires burn I transplant my cool season starts into the garden.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Walter
January 25, 2024 10:20 pm

disgusting

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Walter
January 26, 2024 10:36 pm

Earth day tire burning?
Call piles of tires on fire “sustainable street lights”.

Mad Celt
Mad Celt
January 26, 2024 9:39 am

You guys want them? Come and get them. Got some troops willing to die for a few tomatoes and okra?