Submitted by Mary Christine
Guest Post by Eric Striker
One of the most sociologically unique aspects of the United States is the everlasting prominence of Evangelical, or Born-Again, Christians. The group is known for its literal interpretation of the Bible, espousal of Whig individualism on both spiritual and economic matters, and their rabid Zionist posture on foreign policy matters, often rationalized through end-of-the-world prophecies and a largely one-way devotion to the interests of modern day Jews and the Jewish state.
The heyday of Evangelicals appears to be behind them, but they remain the largest Christian sect in all of America (24%), only being narrowly edged out in 2022 by those who checked the generic no religion box. The main institution where their influence can be seen is the Republican Party, where they form an important constituency and play the role of zealous activists.
But Christian Zionist dominance and the contemporary religious right are relatively new. Prior to the Second World War, Evangelicals were a small, poorly received sect operating on the fringes of the American Protestant landscape. Despite lacking theology respected among rival Protestants of their time and being widely perceived as con artists and gladhanders, Evangelicals were able to triumph over their competitors and critics to become contenders for the title of America’s church.
Dwight Eisenhower’s “Judeo-Christian” Nation
In 1952, Allied General Dwight Eisenhower won a landslide victory over Democrat Adlai Stevenson on a platform promising to halt the expansion of the Soviet Union and the spread of its ideas.
Jews had traditionally been most influential within the Democratic party, but Ike was different. He was able to distinguish himself from old money WASP oriented Republican primary challengers by forming politically and financially profitable alliances with prominent Jewish figures who would later play important roles in his two administrations, such as political power broker Jacob Javits, Standard Oil oligarch Jacob Blaustein (a known Democrat), Maxwell Rabb (Eisenhower’s top advisor), and Simon Sobeloff (the Solicitor General who played a central role in overturning segregated schools in the Brown v. Board case, as well as protecting Jews during the “red scare”). These contacts, established over promises to advance the interests of American Jewry and support the recently created state of Israel, gave Eisenhower a formidable edge in press coverage and big business support during the ‘52 trouncing of Stevenson.
Mobilizing the American people in support of new foreign interventions (such as the Korean War) so soon after a massive war was a top priority for the Eisenhower administration. The problem for policy makers at the time was that America did not have a cogent state ideology capable of sustaining the planned global democracy crusade. The Eisenhower government was acutely aware of this vulnerability, since the American state, through structures such as the Dickstein Committee (later the House Un-American Activities), spent much of the first half of the 20th century desperately trying to contain what they perceived as domestic threats: communists, socialists, isolationists, nativists, and even an incident where a German immigrant held a Third Reich-style mass rally in Madison Square Garden.
The vacuum created by the lack of an official, well-articulated counter to communism during the Great Depression was filled by the rise of anti-Jewish and anti-establishment populism, which thrived in both urban and heartland America thanks to figures such as Henry Ford, Gerald LK Smith, the America First movement, Huey Long, Father Charles C. Coughlin, and even an explicitly Fascist shirt movement led by William Dudley Pelley. Many of these figures looked to Mussolini and Hitler for answers, which horrified the FDR administration and spurred it into frenzied political crackdowns. A number of these anti-communist dissidents and populist firebrands even put aside their religious differences to promote the broadly secular, socialistic and nationalist Share Our Wealth movement (led by Long, Smith and Coughlin), which then transformed into a campaign against FDR’s plan to enter World War II. These powerful orators and skilled organizers found many supporters through easily understood and intuitive arguments emphasizing the lack of an American interest in a new European conflict, while also making the case that the US government’s support for the Soviet Union against Germany and Italy was evidence that Washington was compromised by Judeo-communist sympathizers and spies. Pre-war anti-communism in America was rife with authoritarian, collectivist, anti-interventionist, anti-Jewish and at times racialist ideas that figures such as Eisenhower and Javits saw as national security threats.
For Eisenhower the values and discourse of Long, Coughlin, Smith and so on were unacceptable and anti-American, not to mention frightening to his Jewish associates. Eisenhower, with strong input from representatives of organized Jewry, would go on to author a new response to the Soviet Union’s promise of heaven on earth, one that championed a vision of a racially egalitarian, individualistic, militarily aggressive, and most importantly, Jewish-friendly but loudly Christian United States.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the first president to refer to America as a “Judeo-Christian” nation, at times in a defensive tone when responding to “anti-Semitic” critics, but the strange and ahistorical portmanteau only became common parlance during the Eisenhower years.
A month before his inauguration in December 1952, Eisenhower outlined the worldview America would take into the Cold War:
“And this is how they [the Founding Fathers] explained those: “we hold that all men are endowed by their Creator…” not by the accident of their birth, not by the color of their skins or by anything else, but “all men are endowed by their Creator”. In other words, our form of government has no sense unless it is founded in a deeply felt religious faith, and I don’t care what it is. Of course, it is the Judeo-Christian concept, but it must be a religion with all men being created equal.”
The main barrier for implementing this doctrine was that Americans were not particularly religious. In 1945, only around 65% of Americans self-identified with a church denomination, a figure that’s lower than present-day religiosity.
As the 1950s progressed, the US government and its private sector allies began propagating the new Judeo-Christian doctrine, saturating the radio airwaves with ideological programming, inserting “Under God” in the pledge of allegiance, establishing the National Prayer Breakfast, and creating organizations with the task of re-orienting American civic life around churches. Individuals such as conservative businessman and FBI asset J. Howard Pew bankrolled influential Judeo-Christian Evangelical publications, such as Christianity Today, where he would feed J. Edgar Hoover editorials to the American tabula rasa.
One thing that was retained from pre-war America was the psychological marketing logic behind the concept of the celebrity. The elite needed a Judeo-Christian superstar.
Billy Graham, The Father of Evangelical Christianity
As millions of Americans embraced the television medium, the potential for influencing public opinion enjoyed a massive growth spurt. Suddenly, the Jewish owners of the three major broadcasting companies — ABC (Leonard Goldenson), CBS (William Samuel Paley) and NBC (David Sarnoff) — found themselves in possession of a monopoly over the American people’s mind.
These men would go on to manufacture the Pope of Judeo-Christianity: Billy Graham. By the end of his storied career, Graham was indeed only second to the Pope in terms of his influence on 20th century world Christendom.
Billy Graham was an obscure preacher operating in the Carolinas prior to being discovered by William Randolph Hearst. Hearst, a lapsed Catholic, witnessed Graham attract a crowd in Los Angeles during a 1949 circus tent revival, where the young Southern man with Matinee idol looks burned through fiery sermons damning communists to hell while carefully avoiding racial or anti-Jewish inferences.
Understanding his potential to aid the mission of President Eisenhower —Hearst’s personal friend — the media mogul began furnishing Graham with favorable coverage, calling on his editors to “puff Graham!” Graham would go on to claim that he never met Hearst, but he quickly noticed the attention the publisher was generating for him and began politically calibrating the content of his sermons to maximize positive press.
A year later, the Jewish controlled (Adolph Zukor and Barney Balaban) film studio Paramount invited Graham for a meeting, offering him a role in the Judeo-centric, Zionist remake of the 1923 Christian silent film, The Ten Commandments. Graham turned down the film role, but it was at this luncheon that he was persuaded by ABC’s Jewish head Leonard Goldenson to pursue a different type of stardom.
Thus, incubated in the mind of Jewish atheist Goldenson, the first ever “Televangelist” program was born: The Hour Of Decision, starring the thespian and energetic Carolina Son. In 1951, the show premiered on ABC, and Graham’s addresses, which combined Judeo-Christian Revivalist theology and pro-Eisenhower propaganda within the structure of a variety show, were beamed into the homes of millions of Americans.
In the 1991 book Beating the Odds: The Untold Story Behind the Rise of ABC, a collection of anecdotes dedicated to Goldenson, Graham described the genesis of The Hour of Decision,
“Shortly after Leonard bought ABC, he asked me to go on television every Sunday night at 8. I did that for two years, either having a little religious skit or interviewing important leaders like senators and congressmen. I believe we were the first religious program on national television.”
By 1954, ABC was forced to cancel the Hour of Decision due to its abysmal ratings, but neither Graham or his Jewish sponsors gave up on spreading Evangelical Christianity. Graham’s new strategy would be to turn his live broadcasted “crusades” into high energy, entertaining mass gatherings as a draw to Hour of Decision listeners by holding them in major American venues with celebrity guests, including then Vice President Richard Nixon and later British pop sensation Cliff Richard. Graham’s staff was able to astroturf the crowds that filled stadiums to the brim by working with churches to organize buses of small-town parishioners — many of them not Evangelicals or interested in converting — to visit famous landmarks like the Hollywood Bowl, Yankee Stadium, and Madison Square Garden free of charge.
According to Graham’s autobiography, Just As I Am, his 1954 network television setback was balanced out by syndication of his crusades and a less glamorous version of his show sent across the country over the radio airwaves. The Hour of Decision continued to be broadcast nationally through his association with Jewish businessman Jack Lewis, who introduced him to NBC’s David Sarnoff in 1953,
“NBC had a policy against selling time for religious broadcasting, but the network made an exception through the personal interest of NBC’s founder and president, General David Sarnoff.
When we were on the ship returning us from Japan and Korea in early 1953, we met a Jewish businessman named Jack Lewis. He invited us to a party he was giving, during which a woman performed a hula dance. […] General Sarnoff and his wife were there, and afterward they offered to take me back to the hotel. On the way, the general asked, “Is there anything I can do for you?”
“Yes, sir.” I could tell he was surprised by my quick answer. “I’d like to go on NBC with my radio program.”
I’ll see what I can do,” he said.
Apparently true to his word, we soon were on NBC every Sunday evening.
Often we broadcasted live from various places where we were holding Crusades, from the frontlines during the Korean War to the Hollywood Bowl.”
In 1957, Graham finally managed to breakthrough with his blockbuster Madison Square Garden Crusade, which his old boss at ABC, Goldenson, contracted him to broadcast on live television. There was one condition, the Jews offering Graham this massive platform wanted Martin Luther King to open the event in prayer.
Graham had already began drawing the ire of Southern Baptists and his overwhelmingly white fanbase, but this was a new pinnacle. At the time of Graham presenting King at the New York City crusade as America’s moral authority, King had been organizing the Montgomery Bus Boycott which was instigating racial chaos in Alabama. The purpose of this spectacle was not to win over blacks, which Graham never was able to do despite his contentions. The real motive, at least from the point of view of Graham’s ABC sponsors, appears to have been the utilization of a conservative seeming preacher by giving him the social proof (through being on TV) to morally undermine white Southerners resisting the forced integration project.
In 1950s America, white parents feared that sending their children to school with blacks would put them at risk of interracial violence and lower general academic standards. Following the landmark 1954 decision, Brown v. Board, which outlawed racially separate schools based on dubious social science financed by the American Jewish Committee, the Eisenhower government decided that Southern schools were not integrating fast enough.
Three months after Graham’s televised crusade, Eisenhower deployed the 101st Airborne to Little Rock, Arkansas, where shocking images of US soldiers marching white teenagers to black schools at bayonet point stirred anger and anti-government resentment throughout the South.
Graham and King were strange bedfellows — an alliance of convenience. Graham supported King’s racial politics throughout his activist career and both of them were fiercely pro-Israel, but aside from these superficial similarities, the two men promoted diametrically opposed political and religious programs on everything else. In King’s theology, Social Gospel, Christian fulfillment was to be obtained through socio-political activism, while Graham promoted to whites the primacy of individual salvation. Graham was a fanatical supporter of the Vietnam war and an ally of big business, while King opposed the war and promoted left-wing economic policies. Both figures encountered immense controversy among their respective audiences for collaborating, especially Graham whose increasingly inflammatory anti-white sermons caused Southern Governors like George Bell Timmerman to ban his crusades through the strategic use of laws separating church and state. The only connective tissue uniting King and Graham, who saw the Civil Rights movement through for its entire duration together, was New York Jewish media and money.
By 1965, Graham intensified his campaign to support King’s project, even cancelling a tour in Europe to target Alabama. There, he implored to his white followers to embrace the Civil Rights Act and racially integrate with grace. This seldom translated into formal action from Graham’s fans in support of the Civil Rights movement, but it did sharply weaken their will to fight back.
Israel’s Attack Dog
By the mid to late 1960s, Billy Graham was a household name, having used his fame and elite backing to take over the Southern Baptist Convention and frequently being promoted as a guest on television programs as far out as The Woody Allen show. He took his patented crusades spreading the Judeo-Christian dogma all over the world, usually with ample financial and media support from the CIA, the Israeli state, and the organized Jewish community in America. Every continent now had Evangelical missionaries that not only sought to convert natives, but also who served the American and Israeli intelligence services as covert spies and subversives, especially throughout Latin America and the Middle East.
On the home front, recruitment to the new marketing-driven fandom-cum-church was booming. From 1965 to 1975, Evangelicals were always on offer on the television and radio, allowing the movement to gain waves of followers and become the largest Protestant denomination in the country.
As Arab-Israeli wars broke out throughout the 1960s and 70s, both the Israeli government and American Jews began relying heavily on Graham to promote the Zionist cause to America’s Christians. At the time of these conflicts, American Protestants were heavily polarized on the question, with a significant number of clergy members expressing solidarity for the Arabs — who counted many fellow Christians among them — over the atheist Jews they saw persecuting them.
Important Christian bodies that had previously worked with Jews on other political projects, such as the National Council of Churches, adamantly refused to take a position on the ‘67 war. A prominent “interfaith” coordinator at the time, Rabbi Balfour Brickner, even remarked on “the spectacle of nearly total absence of visible support for the State of Israel during her hour of need.”
That is when Billy Graham came to push Christians off the fence. Graham’s response to the ethical problems many Christians saw in supporting Israel’s violent expulsions of Arabs and expansionism was to warn his followers that the Bible proclaimed Jews God’s Chosen People, and thus those who criticized the Zionist project were damned to fry in hell.
Graham’s 1970 movie, His Land, a Zionist propaganda musical featuring over-the-hill British pop sensation Cliff Richards’ (whose record label was owned by Leonard Goldenson) religious odyssey through Israel was a landmark event in fighting Christian reluctance. Both Graham and the American Jewish Committee sponsored screenings of the film throughout houses of worship in all 50 states as part of a broader multimedia push that included Zionist Dispensionalist Hal Lindsey’s bestselling pro-Israel doomsday book The Late Great Planet Earth (related is the fact that Lindsey’s consulting firm was staffed with Israeli military officials) to change the American people’s minds on how the country should approach the Middle East.
The tension between Graham’s Jewish handlers and the very theology he preached came to a collision at the ‘73 Key campaign. Graham’s rank-and-file supporters were highly motivated by the prospect of saving non-Christians with the word of Jesus Christ, especially the Jews who they believed they had to convert to hasten Christ’s return. This concerned Graham’s Jewish associates, leading to him, in full violation of his own teachings, to issue a decree to an exasperated and dismayed audience that they were now strictly prohibited from trying to Evangelize any Jews. Clearly, the salvation of individual souls was not Graham’s only concern.
Graham continued to play the role of the Jewish community’s shepherd of Christians all the way to his death in 2018. Throughout his life, he was repaid with money, awards, protection from bad press, access to both Democrat and Republican presidents, and even a tacky star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Graham would go on to spawn countless imitators searching for fame and gold, such as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and Pastor John Hagee.
What motivated one of the most pro-Jewish and pro-Zionist Christian figures to have ever lived?
We have evidence that questions the sincerity of his public persona thanks to the 1972 Nixon tapes.
Recorded at the height of Billy Graham’s pro-Jewish and pro-Israel activism, the private oval office conversation between America’s most powerful Christian leader and the President of the United States reveals two seemingly impotent, embittered and Janus-faced men.
In the secretly recorded conversation, Nixon and Graham both identify America’s Jewish community as a corrosive and dangerous force, “This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country’s going down the drain.” Graham follows up his declaration by outright referring to Jews as “The Synagogue of Satan.”
In one remarkable segment, Graham even tells Nixon he wishes he could fight the Jews,
”I go and I keep friends with Mr. Rosenthal (A.M. Rosenthal) at The New York Times and people of that sort, you know. And all — I mean, not all the Jews, but a lot of the Jews are great friends of mine, they swarm around me and are friendly to me because they know that I’m friendly with Israel. But they don’t know how I really feel about what they are doing to this country. And I have no power, no way to handle them, but I would stand up if under proper circumstances.”
Upon hearing this sentiment, a panicked Nixon responds, “You must not let them know!”
The most confounding aspect of the Nixon-Graham tapes is that just one year later during the Yom Kippur war, Nixon dynamited the American economy and caused his public support to erode after unilaterally deciding to organize the largest airlift in US history just to save the Israeli military from defeat. Billy Graham? He spent the conflict acting on orders from Tel Aviv to bring calm to white Christians infuriated about the fact that their government’s support for Israel caused there to be no gas at the gas station.
We can only speculate whether Graham was gathering intelligence on his old friend Dick on behalf of organized Jewry, or if he was confiding his deeply held beliefs.
Either way, one can soundly conclude that the founding father of Evangelical Christianity was a high-functioning and cynical sociopath, just like the Christian Zionist leaders who followed in his footsteps.
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Well this should really get things started …
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More like this…
This, incidentally, will be exactly what everyone can expect from ME! 4 minutes of AWESOME.
How dare you!
One would hope so.
Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron. They killed Christ. He was a Galilean. Awake to the lies u have been told. Schofield was a yid collaborator.
Actually, (((they))) tried him and convicted him in a sham trial … but they were smart enough to have the Romans execute him … sort of like they have the US do the killing and dying on their behalf for the past 100+ years (ever since the Balfour Declaration — involving US and UK jews — got the US into WW1.
Meanwhile, the author seems surprised that fundamentalist Christianity didn’t become a big deal until after WW2 … coincidentally with the enormous rise in power of organized jewry.
Also … look back at the Scopes trial in 1925 and you will see how fundamentalist Christianity was pushing for Scopes to be tried, convicted and severely punished.
They killed no one.
The story of magic jesus is the “gulf of tonkin”….or the “lunar landings”.
Obviously fabricated for a relatively unsophistacated audience of dirt farmers in sandals….. ..who could not see the amazing, even astounding good luck of Jesue selecting pro fishermen as employees years before pulling a magic fishy miracle or two.
Hey look everybody…….some jerk who thinks he’s the first to figure it all out but won’t leave his name..
Hey look everybody…….some jerk who thinks he’s the first to figure it all out but won’t leave his name..
“Obbledy” is a non de plume.
Fuckoff asshole!
It sucks, when everyone keeps beating you up because of your homemade pants.
Fabricated for the urban slave/freedmen class if I had to guess, considering how they infiltrated Rome.
Yep.
An ongoing political control project which the dupes can not see is political.
What a heretical fraudster! I’m glad I follow the true and correct branch where this doesn’t happen.
“The vacuum created by the lack of an official, well-articulated counter to (LUCIFERIAN BANKSTER FUNDED) communism during the Great Depression was filled by the rise of anti-Jewish (LUCIFERIAN FAKE JEWS) and anti-establishment populism, which thrived in both urban and heartland America thanks to figures such as Henry Ford, Gerald LK Smith, the America First movement, Huey Long, Father Charles C. Coughlin, and even an explicitly Fascist shirt movement led by William Dudley Pelley.
Many of these figures looked to Mussolini and Hitler for answers, which horrified the FDR administration (AND THE LUCIFERIAN BANKSTERS – AKA THE FED Creature from Jekyll Island) and spurred it into frenzied political crackdowns.
A number of these anti-communist dissidents and populist firebrands even put aside their religious differences to promote the broadly secular, socialistic and nationalist Share Our Wealth movement (led by Long, Smith and Coughlin), which then transformed into a campaign against FDR’s (AND HIS LUCIFERIAN BANKSTER MASTERS) plan to enter World War II”.
This article really gave me a sensation I haven’t had since I got rid of cable tv. “10,000 channels and Nothing to watch”. I’m beginning to get the same sensation here at TBP. I’m reading reruns and public broadcastingesque articles here as of late and it’s reviving another old sensation just now. “Saturday morning cartoons are over and Bowling is on”. I think I’ll go outside and play. Talk about 20 minutes I’ll never get back.
Quick scan of obvious Blarney. Lots of Blarney on the right and left available everywhere.
No outside TV for about 20 years. Just some DVD’s of old shows fit to watch is our entertainment. Still working a bit because I want to, not have to. A Christ centered life is a beautiful thing.
Tell me you’re a low IQ Evangitard without telling me you’re a low IQ Evangitard.
Ha! Upvoted!
They say about 3,000 years ago God came down (in an escalator?) and promised the Jews the land where Israel now sits. That’s why they call it the promised land and they ‘the chosen people’. Really, 3,000 years ago? I have a question or 2. If God was such a fan why did he give them a miserable patch of desert surrounded by hostile equally deranged people? I’d have held out for the Italian Riviera. And how chosen are you while being hated and mistreated around the world for a millennia?
Then the Christians show up to say Jesus (who’s just about to make a reappearance) is going to save the Jews-those who get onboard and straighten their asses out. The rest, presumably, get smited apparently no longer ‘chosen’.
I give religious people of every brand and type a wide berth but these stories really smack of ridiculous bullshit. What did I get wrong?
We can scoff. We can mock. We can make a concerted effort to try and identify whether there is a Creator or not. Do what thou wilt. But the irrefutable fact remains. We are all going to find out. One way or another. We are all going to find out. Whether God really does exist.
I noticed that you ignored the logic of my observation. Take another try at it.
BTW who owned your property 3,000 years ago?
Actually Israel was gorgeous if you go far back enough in antiquity. Since the Jews were hoofed out of the region by the romans (historical fact) it was allowed to decay/deteriorate. Israel is once again blooming. Satellite imagery confirms this fact. As for myself. I lay claim to zero property on this earth. I am a mere pilgrim passing through.
Property rights are the foundation of all individual rights. So pass thru-until you die. Just don’t have a place to call home.
It was beautiful before Abrasham showed up, started digging holes all over the place, overrated the countryside with his flocks and herds.
Later Jacob’s fam came through and murdered an entire clan because Dinah was caught banging a local boy.
Later, Jacob had to also change his name in an attempt to escape his bad reputation like father? Like son.
Violent.
Greedy.
Perverts.
Just like today.
Yes, because usurers prevent erosion and desertification. It’s a well known fact.
Speaks seriously! I can approve of what I have never seen just because the damned demiurge found a way to hallucinate arrogant murderers and rapists of his own sons and daughters. Gimme a break!
Blooming what was flowering that deflowered and is reblooming. Pass me the popcorn, dammit!
My forefathers.
You have bad ancestors, huh!
No one but an evil god would condemn us for outright disgust and rejection of the jewish tribal demon. At which point we’re all fucked, so there is nothing to worry about.
JDE’s gamble.
I certainly don’t condemn anyone calling a pig a pig.
And Jews?
Are pigs.
The promised land is the new earth after the Judgement.
Just another hit piece. Just another diatribe of hate. The fact remains, if you are a Christian who studies their Bible, then you will be a zionist (to some extent) Whether you admit it or not. The Old Testament is peppered with verses affirming that God gave the land to ‘His’ people. Also. He will punish them repeatedly and remove them from it. But He will always bring them back to their ‘home’. Like I said, if you study the Bible, these statements are not debateable. They remain clear as day. Period.
The one thing that I believe turns Christians into zionists is the nonsensical inclusion of the OT with the New Testament … the rantings of an angry and evil and vicious and vengeful people in the OT created a vision of God based upon what they saw in the mirror … and that has corrupted — maybe even destroyed — the true essence of Christianity.
The New Testament compliments and completes the Old Testament. And for the record, God’s promise to the Jews is ALSO in the New Testament. Book of Acts. You can look it up yourself. (I am not going to spoon feed you). If you truly yearn to know God’s will and eternal truths, you will do your own legwork. All the best.
Both testaments were chosen and
assembled by politicians.
What?
It’s true.
But I betcha, politicians were not greedy selfish assholes in olden times.
•”There is nothing new under the sun.”
●The bible?
Assembled by Team Constantine.
●Politicians, curated the books of the bible.
I have to laugh because it’s hilarious to see someone being an advocate for the Zionists. Give me another shot of whiskey, waiter!
That is a profoundly ignorant statement on historical and theological grounds.
is it? that’s amusing since it is well documented that it was in fact curated and a whole slew of texts were removed or edited during translation. how many courses of theology have you taken? its always amusing hearing from an asshole who gets his ‘facts’ from hearing from a source who heard from a source, but could never actually sourced it himself.
You are the exemplar of why I consider christianity to be judaism constructed for the white man.
Stop it, just stop it. The ((())) of Israel are not the Chosenites. They are murderers. His people my ass. The New Testament usurps the Old Jew testament in my bible.
At what point do you stop scraping shit off your sandwich and throw the whole thing away?
“studies the bible” … you mean the one that was selectively compiled from texts that supported the Church of Rome’s desired telling and the one that was selectively edited by King James II and was the “official version” because his edits were approved for the masses to read?
The fact that none of you low IQ evangelicals can read latin, greek, hebrew or aramaic and believe that what you read in english is somehow an accurate translation or represents any of the original texts just puts an exclamation on your ignorance. And all ignorance ends in downfall.
Knowing hebrew also ends in downfall.
Deep Dives from seven different sources:
BILLY GRAHAM – SATAN’S BEST MINSTER FOR ONE WORLD RELIGION – Dr. Quality Kim
BILLY GRAHAM: FORERUNNER TO ANTICHRIST
BILLY GRAHAM WAS SQUISH WHO SURRENDERED BIBLE DOCTRINE A LONG TIME AGO
https://dailycaller.com/2018/03/02/billy-graham-was-a-squish-who-surrendered-bible-doctrine-a-long-time-ago/
THE DECEPTION OF BILLY GRAHAM, A MIND CONTROL FRONT 33RD DEGREE MASON
God knows what precisely was in his heart. God will judge him. I am the LAST MAN to start casting stones.
I completely agree with the heart comment…not casting stones…have put up 8 different articles so far…the first seven I had already collected…all filled with interlocking facts, quotes, historical records, and will soon be putting up more.
I was curious having put the Masons under my own investigation for many years, and he kept popping up. I wanted to know exactly what he believed, did, said, and promoted.
His secret conversation with Nixon (exposed on the tapes) was interesting…but seems deceptive considering his actual actions and the times.
BILLY GRAHAM’S SAD DISOBEDIENCE
Table of Contents
Billy Graham Dies……………………………………………….5
Graham Praised by Independent Baptists ……………….8
Billy Graham’s Disobedience ……………………………..11
When Did Graham’s Compromise Begin? ……………45
Franklin Graham ……………………………………………….54
About Way of Life’s eBooks ………………………………63
Powerful Publications for These Times ………………..64
https://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/downloads/Billy_Grahams_Sad_Disobedience.pdf
MATTHEW 24
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that ‘no man deceive you’. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall ‘deceive many’.
Graham is known as “Mr. Facing Two Ways” reminiscent of John Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress. One day he had glowing praise for Bob Jones University, John Rice of the Sword of the Lord, etc., and the next he was climbing into bed with the most radical modernists in America. This supports the fact that compromise will usually take one farther than he wanted to go.
I hear you. When George Bush Sr. (I believe) launched Desert Storm 1, I recall that Billy Graham was with him in the White House. Pretty sure it was Desert Storm 1. That always sat uneasy with me. But as I said, nothing is hidden from God. His judgement will be righteous and true. I have a full plate keeping myself in line (which I fail at daily). Hope you keep posting. Like the stuff you share. And your (non-combative) attitude.
Buddy…you and I are there together “(which I fail at daily)”.
As far as debating/discussing Billy Graham I am deeply saddened by what I found in my deep dives…almost wouned in a way…as in my early years of drinking milk I gulped his message…but when I started eating meat (and did my own deep dives) I realized who supported him…what he really said…amd more importantly what he did…and what a complete and total farce his son was…and is.
Now, I am close to people who went to his son in laws Bible study…and I also liked his daughter…who lives close…so I don’t post what I do lightly.
Billy “Pedosadist” Graham, the devil himself in the middle of the church!
My gut instinct was right 35 years ago….they are all hucksters…..
If I were religious, I would never accept the notion of a divinity requiring me to use a fellow mortal as an intermediary to worship that divinity. It sounds like a mortal, gate-keeping hustle, not a divine declaration.
Priceless.
I worship God everytime I consume a brand name product.
Evangelical christian?
Seriously?
A ridiculous label or so called denomination.
The great commission requires all true believers in Jesus, not some based on denomination, to evangelize unbelievers.
Yep…denominations have always been meaninless to me.
My recollection is that it was St. Paul — NOT Christ — who got into the whole evangelical business model …
Joe Sobran on the state and Christianity:
My fellow Christians have argued that the state’s authority is divinely given. They cite Christ’s injunction “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s” and St. Paul’s words “The powers that be are ordained of God.” But Christ didn’t say which things — if any — belong to Caesar; his ambiguous words are far from a command to give Caesar whatever he claims. And it’s notable that Christ never told his disciples either to establish a state or to engage in politics. They were to preach the Gospel and, if rejected, to move on. He seems never to have imagined the state as something they could or should enlist on their side.
At first sight, St. Paul seems to be more positive in affirming the authority of the state. But he himself, like the other martyrs, died for defying the state, and we honor him for it; to which we may add that he was on one occasion a jailbreaker as well. Evidently the passage in Romans has been misread. It was probably written during the reign of Nero, not the most edifying of rulers; but then Paul also counseled slaves to obey their masters, and nobody construes this as an endorsement of slavery. He may have meant that the state and slavery were here for the foreseeable future, and that Christians must abide them for the sake of peace. Never does he say that either is here forever.
St. Augustine took a dim view of the state, as a punishment for sin. He said that a state without justice is nothing but a gang of robbers writ large, while leaving doubt that any state could ever be otherwise. St. Thomas Aquinas took a more benign view, arguing that the state would be necessary even if man had never fallen from grace; but he agreed with Augustine that an unjust law is no law at all, a doctrine that would severely diminish any known state.
READ REST: http://www.sobran.com/reluctant.shtml
Here’s the definition of evangelical …. ‘Of, relating to, or being a Christian church believing in the Bible as the sole source of religious authority, in salvation only through conversion and spiritual regeneration, and in the necessity of public witness to faith.’
So what exactly are you taking umbrage with?
Eyes my Brother in Christ,
I know your heart is saved…we are on track on salvation…but I believe you are deceived on the Pre-Trib deception…and the other lies that – that implies.
We started this on another thread and I responded late having trees to trim before the county cut them down.
I responded but have lost the thread?
So here I am and there you are…
So let us pick up a Brother to Brother RESPECTFUL debate that TBP can read…but it is what it is…
Here is what I say:
There is no 7 year tribulation…and from my research and investigation Daniel 9:27 (the hinge verse of so much deception) was changed in 1885 by Sir Anderson in the ‘REVISED’ King James ‘B.S.’ Bible deception (that should have been called the REVISED KINK (every pun intended) James…by Sir Anderson.
Check him out…and Darby…and the little girl in the trance (that was used to start the deception, then Scofield (and Moody – they were all friends and cogs in the deceptive demonic machine) all ran Satan’s ball into the prophetic DECEPTION…Pre Trib End Zone.
Then many future translations took the REVISED 9:27 (switch from Jesus to the Antichrist) as ‘gospel’ (it is a deception much, much worse than poor bright blued eyed Billy WATERED DOWN elevated NEW AGE/NEWER AGER Mason crap…he was just an elevated grunt who played his – Can’t we all just get along – One world RELIGION role).
The flip from Jesus to the Antichrist deception in Daniel 9:27…and Pre-Trib a 7 year Tribulation, and a single – one person – ANTI CHRIST MANY FEAR (Phfttttt) was off to the Evangelical races
There is an Antichrist Spirit…but this superman antichrist is BS…and so is MOUR!
EYES…these demonic clowns’ creations who think they run the creations are in for the soon coming Rude Awaking.
Eyes…Scofield did most of the heavy lifting with his 1885 ‘Study notes’ foundational deception.
Come on…that is an easy deep dive. Just go back to the two Geneva Bibles and the original words.
Please listen to this…it is the truth. I will listen to any counter you put up!
DANIEL’S SEVENTY – WEEKS PROPHECY: WHERE ARE THE “RAPTURE AND “SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION?
https://libertyfellowshipmt.com/News/tabid/56/ID/4198/Daniels-Seventy-Weeks-Prophecy-Where-Are-The-Rapture-And-Seven-Year-Tribulation-Prophecy-Message-Number-Two.aspx
Some say believing in Pre Trib is not a salvation issue…and that may be true for some…but in many churches that is all that is ever…ever…ever taught or even discussed, and all that is ever even known by many flocks…and when it never, ever happens many, many, many will/may take the ‘Mark of the Beast’ because of that.
THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE THEY (You Pre Trib believers) WILL BE SAFE (no matter the length of the tribulation) …because they are (LOST) AMERICAN ZIONISTS!
Think about that RISK if you are wrong? Not you…you are a Prepper…most of the AMERICAN ZIONISTS are (and will be) Mark of the Beast Fodder.
Think about all those ‘AMERICAN CHRISTIANS’ who are not Preppers like you – and me, who think persecution is being called a name…and are 100% positive as the Seals pop open they will be magically RAPTURED (a Catholic–Latin word) and miss all the dying and killing for being a ‘Little Christ’…because of the 1885 REVISED lies and deceptions.
The Southern Baptists have swallowed it hook, line and sinker and I attend a wonderful Southern Baptist church.
Amazingly, The Vast Majority Of “Modern” Prophecy Books And Teachings Have Their Foundation Based On The Corrupt Revised Version Bible (RV of 1885), And Most King James Bible Believing Christians Aren’t Even Aware Of It!
https://www.prophecycountdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/The-Truth-of-Daniel
This all makes my head hurt mark. I am just going to concentrate on my relationship with God and Jesus Christ and give gratitude every day to the wonders of this natural world and the blessing of forgiving me of my earthly sins, and let the chips fall where they may, either here or hovering in the clouds above.
ILuvCO2,
Haaaaaaa….I know Buddy…and you have a point!
You cannot go wrong there no matter who is right about the timing of the Second Coming.
It is not a salvation issue for Believers headed toward the narrow gate/door nor matter when they experience the first death or are still alive for His return.
I’m just a deep in the weeds guy…and accurate WORD OF GOD TRANSLATIONS MATTER…I really like Eyes…he has a heart for Christ…is a good/sincere man (we all know that won’t save anyone but it is what it is)…and Rapture timing is not a salvation issue for anyone.
He is also all Prepped up (he has already stated that as he is a sharp guy…but Pre Trib won’t happen…and he will need it) and many (too many) are deceived (I mean saved Christians) who are not Prepped up…and here is the kicker…
They don’t even know or have been taught any other timings of the 2nd COMING! It’s all Left Behind BS…all the time. They will be prime for the Mark of the Beast…and that precursor is already changing DNA.
The 2nd Coming is coming soon to a planet near all of us…sooner rather than later…no missing the antichrist spirit that has been here a long, long time (a completely defeated & completely humiliated foe – NO FEAR is needed) there is no 7 year Tribulation (I have no idea of the actual length) and there is no superman antichrist coming…there are many antichrists…some of them post here.
There is no modern day Israel reflecting the old Testament Israel…the 1.1 million Judeans (outside those who fled to the Pella mountains before 70 AD (those converted from Pentecost on who actually listened to Jesus warning in the accurate time before 70 AD.
If you are a Christian ‘Zionist’ you are DECEIVED…sorry…you’re bad.
Eyes…are you listening? I know you can research what I put up…none of it is coming from me – all of it stopped with the fulfillment of Daniel 9:27…it is proven if you go deep into the original language…and understand the true deceptive history…of HIS-STORY.
ILuvCO2, Eyes…take the time…just listen to this…he nails it:
https://libertyfellowshipmt.com/News/tabid/56/ID/4198/Daniels-Seventy-Weeks-Prophecy-Where-Are-The-Rapture-And-Seven-Year-Tribulation-Prophecy-Message-Number-Two.aspx
You find it ridiculous because you are one and can’t visualise anything else.
Celebritynetworth.com reports the preacher (Billy Graham) was worth approximately $25 million.
Why would a man of God amass a fortune?
Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal
It ought to be quite obvious to anyone what the motivation was for these pastors to misdirect their flocks.
Everything, everything, is fake and gay.
All the successful preachers amass fortunes.
Tells you the truth about what they believe.
Camel, meet eye of needle.
Scratching itching ears, they are deceitful workmen.
Preachers of heaven amass treasure on earth.
Sea level rise promoting oligarchs buy beachfront homes.
A man of God would not. That’s how you know he is a false teacher like the Bible warns there will be many of.
I don’t care about down vote, but what possible explanation can anyone give for a minister amassing a multimillion dollar personal fortune? If you had real faith, you’d want to live a life of poverty to highlight your deep and profound faith, not the exact opposite of what Christ preached about it.
I don’t see how you could take it any other way.
The ‘born again’ verse is a translation serving what’s implied here. The actual translation is ‘born from above’. You are, or else. Can you believe it, nobody looked it up.
As an atheist outsider, having had endless conversations with, and having read, many stripes of Christian, it seems that Jesus exhorted humanity to practice their religion quietly, and to seek the kingdom of heaven within. Also, how perfectly would imperfect, non-omniscient, fallen, weak, prejudiced, cognitively biased men, direct others to worship better than they are already equipped to, by their perfect, all-knowing creator?
Christian Zionists seem especially misguided. A deity surely would not need their help to return and execute a divine plan. There are apparently Christians who have made a pilgrimage to Israel, and have engaged in violence there, to hasten s second coming and the rest of the end times:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1998/07/20/forcing-the-end
And American evangelicals who champion the Israeli government’s genocide, which most Israeli Jews despise, could hardly be said to be followers of a divine “prince of peace”.
Once you get to know an anti-Christ/Christian, you’ll usually find them to be morally and sexually degenerate people.There are very few exceptions.
Good thing no Christian has ever become embroiled in sexual impropriety.
Ha!
The old timers know better and have no need of anyone telling them what the Bible says..they KNOW who the “Jews”and are schooling those raised up with the hyphenated lie!
I am a Christian,singularly and wholly.
All is not lost…
Cool.
“Btother? Can you spare a dime for a fellow Christian who’s down on his luck”
Mary Christine, thank you for exposing this con man and heretic.
This essay, nay book, involved a lot of research and made for some interesting reading. But after all that work, author draws a non sequitor conclusion. Graham was right about the Synagogue of Satan, as was Nixon. And now we are surrounded. That even a man like Graham can rethink the wayward Atheist (self profess majority) Jews and their evil influence for worldwide depopulation hardly makes him a sociopath. Just the opposite.
He was a controlled opposition with lots of gold and small children in bed.
The past DID have more “Religiosity”. It bottomed after WW2 (typical after loss of lives) then rose quickly, peaking in 1960 then began the 60s counter revolution and the crash in Religion. Coincidentally, virtually every socioeconomic indicator of a country’s health collapsed in near unison. Just like Russia and China, Godless States.
(((jesus)))
Sorry, MC. You gave it all away in the title…and I disagree vehemently. Jesus Christ Himself started the Evangelist Movement. You can’t call yourself a Christian and deny this truth.
Interesting comments. Thanks, Mark, yours are the most informative. I just sent this as a conversation starter. I already had my opinion on Billy and Franklin. Particularly Franklin who pushed the clot shot, then got a heart condition out of it. Poetic justice.
I’m going to twist Mark Twain’s saying. People who go to church are misinformed. People who don’t go to church are uninformed.
By the way, the articles author could have done a better job than to just pin it on Billy and the Jews. I wish I could find the book but my search came up dead. But the CIA was behind some of this as well, more to counter Communism than anything. (Operation Gladio)There is plenty of evidence they had Christian missionaries involved in coups in other countries but their actions here are harder to find the evidence.
What a mess. Jesus must be so disappointed in us.
“I’m going to twist Mark Twain’s saying. People who go to church are misinformed. People who don’t go to church are uninformed.”
Many think Twain an Atheist, I don’t. His best work, by his own take, was not Huck Finn – it was his book about Joan of Arc. She was a Crusader for Christ and the book was nothing but praise for the woman, written in the last years of his life. Nobody can know what was in his heart at the end.
His actual words were about people who read the news and don’t read the news. But it works the same way for church.
Evangelicals aren’t necessarily religious, seems more like a cult than faith based belief…the mega-church is just the tyranny of the masses.
In the Bible belt it can become mostly just a social club and it can become a super strict we don’t drink or chew or hang with people who do group…for some…in some churches.
I was in a wonderful Southern Baptist Church for 20 years, the focus was bringing people to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, sound Biblical marriages and healthy Biblical families…big focus on the children. That church went from 100 people when I joined it in 94 (a one year old 44 year old Christian) to 1,500 members by 2014 (it also planted many other churches).
We stopped attending in 2014 having moved rural and I wanted to meet my neighbors, and we found a tight tribe of neighbor/Believers through that wise move.
Most of the growth was from first time confessions of faith…we had many former alcoholics, drug addicts, blended families, etc. Even some Bikers and former gays. I loved it there! Contemporary music, drama skits (I was in the Drama team – we had a talented writing team) and all kinds of family events…I formed a team, ran security, and even did a full costume clown routine with Christian magic tricks for kids 10 and under. That was a blast!
I taught the Bible to boys from 3rd to 5th grade for 12 years…and when I see one now as a man in their late teens or 20’s and they recognize me it is always a MAGIC MOMENT! (Every one of them remembers my Christian magic tricks, rocket balloons, and especially the flash paper tricks! – I use to ball it up and throw flaming fireballs that always wowed them!)
This is the kind of church it was…We had a sweet couple with three kids who lost their modest home (and everything else) in a fire with no insurance…many of us dug deep and chipped in for six months, we found them a temporary place, and bought them a new (modest) home! The church had a massive food pantry, many outreach programs to the town it was in…the Chief of Police told the Pastor ten years in that the church had cut the crime rate of the town massively. I started a ministry doing home repairs and changing car oil for single mothers that was successful. It always amazed us when women would pull in to have their oil changed for free…and they would maybe have only a quart or two to drain!!! The Pastor started reminding them during the service the milage requirements.
There was church discipline and all kinds of counseling when need. Husbands beating wives were confronted. A member getting bullied by his boss was supported, and the boss approached. There was a guy coming in leering at young girls…after he refused to stop, he was run off with a direct confrontation. I shadowed him to get the evidence…an apprentice pervert.
A true Biblical Church is a wonderful life and eternity changing place.
To this day almost all of our close friends are from that church as we start our fourth decade hanging out together.