From Boom To Bust: Doug Casey on Fading Enthusiasm for Electric Vehicles

Via International Man

International Man: Outside of Tesla, fewer and fewer people want electric vehicles (EVs). Other car companies have spent billions producing EVs that buyers don’t trust. Why are they developing products their customers clearly don’t want?

Doug Casey: Perhaps they thought that if Tesla, an undercapitalized start-up run by an eccentric with no auto manufacturing experience, could become a trillion-dollar company, then how hard could it be? They forgot that Tesla is run by a genius who designed an electric car from the ground up with lots of technical innovations. GM, Ford, and the other legacy companies are run by ESG-oriented suits whose first consideration is kowtowing to their HR and compliance departments.

Apple was working on an EV, but they just pulled the plug on it after dropping US $10 billion. Building a good EV isn’t as easy as Elon made it look.

There’s nothing wrong with the concept of electric vehicles. The problem—as with most economic problems in today’s world—is the State. The government has basically decided that fossil fuels are evil, and so are the vehicles that burn them. They hate fossil fuels for all kinds of specious and hysterical reasons that mostly revolve around “saving” the planet. Most of which are nonsensical, at least if you want to have an industrial civilization.

The kind of people who go into government hate cars and the freedom that they give the common man.

That’s why they want to put everybody in 15-minute cities, where you presumably won’t need real cars, just EV golf carts.

The federal government has lots of legal mandates designating what kind of cars manufacturers can and cannot make. Average fleet mileage specifications are a major factor in determining what kind of cars we have. But governments are going farther, essentially trying to ban most conventional ICE (internal combustion engine) cars by 2035 or even 2030. Their mandates against ICEs have skewed production towards electronic vehicles.

At the same time, they’ve offered large tax advantages to consumers, getting them to buy EVs that they’d otherwise avoid. So, although EVs have merit for certain places and conditions and have a place in the automotive world, government pushing and pulling creates huge distortions in how people act.

International Man: Last year, Ford lost $4.7 billion on its EV models, and it’s projected that this year, it could lose up to $5.5 billion.

The Wall Street Journal estimates that Ford could actually boost its profits by 50% by ditching EVs altogether. It seems Ford and other companies could care less about serving their shareholders or their customers.

What is really going on here?

Doug Casey: The shareholders and customers take a back seat to legislators and regulators. It’s perverse.

Cars have been with us for well over 100 years and have created a longstanding subculture. All the car companies’ founders were what we call “car guys.” They loved cars, they loved racing, and they liked the idea of freedom that they promoted. They were a special breed. But the car guys no longer run car companies. They’ve been replaced by suits.

Today’s car companies are run by bean-counting accountants and, increasingly, by the ESG designates who control their boards. A lot of women (GM is run by Mary Barra, and six of its 13 directors are women) are involved in the big car companies today. Nothing against women, but the fact is that women have never been more than a tiny part of car culture, mainly in Beach Boys songs.

If you look at their corporate websites, you’ll see that they emphasize how green and PC they are. Not how great their products are. The people running these giant car companies appear much more interested in phony environmental objectives and promoting ESG than they are in making technologically advanced and interesting cars. Their legal and regulatory compliance departments greatly outnumber their engineering departments. It’s an industry in decline.

Even the name of what used to be Chrysler has changed to Stellantis, a word that stands for nothing. Who, whether an employee or a customer, can have loyalty to an artificial financial construct? No wonder their stocks sell for four or five times earnings.

International Man: Amid many billions in losses, sunk costs, and underwhelming consumer demand, car companies are finally reevaluating their EV strategies.

Many are pulling back or ending them.

Do you think the EV craze is on its way out? Where is this trend headed?

Doug Casey: I’m not against EVs, per se. They have their pros and cons. It’s still early days of technological development for electric cars.

Speaking as a car guy myself, one thing I like about EVs is their very low centers of gravity due to where the batteries are placed. Everything else being equal, they should handle better than ICE cars. Although they also weigh 500-1000 pounds more than they should, because of the batteries, and that’s bad for both handling and tire wear. On the other hand, they have many fewer moving parts than ICEs and should be low maintenance—until the battery gives out after x number of miles. Then you might as well junk the car.

EVs brake well because the brakes don’t just rely on friction to burn off speed; they recapture energy, which serves to recharge the battery. I like the fact that they’re quiet and they’re lightning-fast in acceleration, far faster than comparable ICE cars. They can be great enthusiast cars for certain applications.

But they have some real problems. They make no sense in very cold or very hot climates, which make batteries underperform, on top of additional drains from heating or air conditioning. Because chargers are few and can take a lot of time, EVs are really only practical if you commute in a city and have a garage where you can plug it in overnight. Of course, lithium batteries catch fire occasionally, and when they do, they’re impossible to extinguish. That’s a real risk.

The bottom line is that they make little sense if you’re an apartment dweller without a garage, go on long trips, or live in an intemperate climate zone.

They have a definite value in the automotive ecosystem, but they’re being promoted as a panacea. They’re not. With present technology, hybrids using small but powerful internal combustion engines supplemented by batteries are probably the best way to go between the horns of the dilemma.

Who can accurately predict what will work or not? Politicians and bureaucrats, not engineers and designers, are making all the rules. But on the bright side, battery technology is always improving, so things will almost inevitably get better, despite the best efforts of Greens and bureaucrats.

International Man: Could EVs compete in a free market without government subsidies, tax credits, or other special benefits?

How long can governments continue to artificially prop up EVs?

Doug Casey: We don’t really know the true economics of EVs because they’re buried under a ton of subsidies, tax credits, and other benefits, like free parking in some jurisdictions.

The answer is to get government 100% out of cars. In fact, get government 100% out of absolutely all areas of the economy so we can see what’s really efficient and desirable. We’ll never know the answer until we live in a free market society. Which I pretty much despair of, since the government is becoming more powerful all the time.

How long can they artificially prop up EVs? Not long, I think.

Here’s something that most people don’t consider. The real problem with EVs lies not so much with the cars themselves—which we’ve just discussed. It’s the national electric grid.

The amount of electrical power generation in the US has been flat for the last 20 years. We haven’t grown the amount of electrical power at all, even though the population has grown from 290 million to 340 million in that time. That’s because there have been great gains in efficiency and conservation. But the amount of gross power that will be needed if EVs continue to be promoted is going to be huge. Charging all these EVs could bring down the grid and cause blackouts.

If EVs are ever going to work, the only answer is to build lots of the latest-generation nuclear power plants. That’s a whole different subject, of course, but unless nuclear power has a renaissance, EVs will fail simply because there won’t be enough power on the grid for them. They’ll cause wholesale blackouts.

International Man: What are the implications for lithium, carbon credits, and other hyped-up investments that benefited from the EV craze?

Doug Casey: Once again, political intervention has caused people to do stupid things that they wouldn’t have done otherwise.

EVs are just the most egregious current example of state intervention causing huge misallocations of capital and generally reducing the world’s standard of living. Most government economic “planning” is about as smart as having half the people dig ditches during the day and the other half fill them at night in order to create 100% employment. Most of the current nonsense with lithium, carbon credits, wind, solar, and EVs amounts to the same thing.

As for the implications for lithium, the current generation of batteries requires a lot of lithium. But future generations of batteries may use different materials. Lithium went from about $8,000 a tonne in 2020 to $65,000 in 2023; now it’s dropped to about $12,000. That’s truly spectacular volatility. My guess is that most of the billions of dollars being put into lithium mining will turn out to be another giant misallocation.

In conclusion, the big takeaway on electronic vehicles is that innovations in technology are good, and that includes EVs. But once the State and the kind of people who work for it get involved, they’ll screw things up and create chaos.

My advice is to stick with ICE cars and stay away from EVs until the technology is sorted over the next few years.

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21 Comments
Anonymous
Anonymous
March 20, 2024 3:04 pm

They scrap enough regular internal combustion cars every year that dont sell. EVs are pieces of fucking junk that only bought by retarded old ex hippies and climate change hoax believers .

Goat!
Goat!
  Anonymous
March 20, 2024 3:52 pm

I wouldn’t mind having some just for parts to play / hack with.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
March 20, 2024 4:16 pm

I see losers camped out at charging stations for hours.
They will be sitting ducks for Jamal and Cedrick come showtime.

Goat!
Goat!
  YourAverageJoe
March 20, 2024 4:21 pm

Are they dumb enough (or smart enough to hack) to want one?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  YourAverageJoe
March 21, 2024 3:41 am

Picked up my used Tesla and drove from DC back to ohio in 8 hours. Spent two visits to supercharger sessions each 20 minutes. Yawn.

Zoro
Zoro
  Anonymous
March 21, 2024 7:43 am

Filled 26 gallon tank in less than 5 minutes. A little over 9.25 hours on one fill!

Perfect Stranger
Perfect Stranger
  Anonymous
March 21, 2024 8:06 am

The faster you charge those batteries, the shorter long term battery life you will have.

T4C
T4C
March 20, 2024 5:01 pm

China and Blackrock – Biden EPA Rolls Out USA Auto Mandates Forcing EV’s to Make Up Two-Thirds of Passenger Vehicles – Who Benefits?

Donilon family represented the interests of Blackrock in the White House.

So, let’s encapsulate things so far. (1) The interests of Blackrock determined the White House key staff and policy makers. (2) The Donilon clan represented those Blackrock interests and worked inside both the White House and State Dept to create and maintain policy favorable to Blackrock’s Chinese EV position. (3) China/Blackrock invest massively in Mexican EV production. (4) White House/EPA generate policy to support the Blackrock investment.

That’s how the three Chinese auto-firms could be so sure of their decision in 2023 to invest in the Mexican Blackrock EV plan. The one that President Donald Trump rightly says will create a “bloodbath” in the U.S auto-industry.

It is not the politicians; they are functionaries.

What I am saying directly is that Blackrock is the origin of the policy, and Blackrock is the beneficiary of the policy.

This is what I mean when I keep saying, “there are trillions at stake,” and “it’s not the politicians we should be looking at.”

Defector
Defector
March 20, 2024 5:19 pm

I like EVs for the reasons he listed.
And I also do not own one or plan to for the reasons he listed.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 20, 2024 6:11 pm

They forgot that Tesla is run by a genius who designed an electric car from the ground up with lots of technical innovations.

Stopped reading.
What utter Musk-licking horseshit.

Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning are the creators and founding executives of Tesla, according to CNBC. And they were the ones who came up with the idea to name the company after investor Nikola Tesla. The two men created Tesla in July 2003, while Elon Musk—the current face of Tesla and a man with a quarter-trillion-dollar net worth—invested in the company’s Series A funding round the following February, reports TechCrunch.

https://marketrealist.com/p/who-really-founded-tesla/

Musk is NOT an engineer. Or an electric car designer. He claims to have earned a double major in Econ & Physics. Bachelors degrees do not a genius make.

He is, of course, a true genius …. at grifting.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
March 20, 2024 9:54 pm

Musk=Edison=Charlaton

VOWG
VOWG
  Anonymous
March 21, 2024 8:49 am

Those Teslas sure can burn up the road.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 20, 2024 7:55 pm

“If you look at their corporate websites, you’ll see that they emphasize how green and PC they are. Not how great their products are.”

have any of the suits bothered to observe the catastrophic environmental impact lithium mining and lithium battery disposal pose? the answer is no. they are satanic vile wicked cunts – the whole bunch of them.

but if they are really having trouble building cars competitive with tesla, which are fire holes and cancer mobiles, then they should hire away boeing’s engineers.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 20, 2024 8:24 pm

I see estimates of US oil reserves at 60 to 80 billion barrels . We take 4 billion barrels a year out of the ground in the US. We won’t go to no barrels, but we will go to 2 billion barrels a year in about 15 years. Maybe less quicker. That is a reason for electric cars. I’m old, not my problem. If you are younger than 55, it is yours.

Yahsure
Yahsure
March 20, 2024 10:03 pm

I’m looking at golf carts. I can recharge from solar and use the 48v batteries as part of my solar setup. There may come a time when buying gasoline requires a CBDC and limits on how many gallons you can buy. On my last gas top off my truck averaged 5 mpg. 94 dollars to fill. I can live with my paid for truck that I don’t drive much. Get ready for 15 minute cities.

Goat!
Goat!
  Yahsure
March 20, 2024 10:25 pm

Exactly my idea about the EVs as far as the batteries, and those motors would kick butt for all sorts of things. I wonder what voltage the batteries put out?

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Yahsure
March 21, 2024 10:10 am

If you’re still playing by the rules at that point? I’d say you were beyond help. We’ll all be thieves and murderers before it’s over. Or we’ll be dead.

Zoro
Zoro
  Yahsure
March 22, 2024 6:07 am

5 mpg? What are you driving a Dodge 3/4 ton with a hemi? I get 20 mpg highway my 2016 Ford with a ecoboost six, and got that on my older 2005 8 cylinder. The ecoboost does about 17 mpg in town, the the old 8 did about 14 mpg in town. Of course 4WD and below zero weather reduces mileage.

Joe Time
Joe Time
March 21, 2024 3:33 am

Back in 2006 I bought, had restored, and converted to electric a 77 vw Beetle convertible and had a blast. Still have it to the day and it has been completely reliable – Just didn’t travel far and never put the roof back on. Since then I’ve purchased and owned three plug-in Hybrids the oldest a 2013 Ford C-Max Energi which now has 80,000 miles and has been plugged in each day sometimes going through two charge cycles per day and the car is still fully functional. My dream car Chevy Volt (Black) will never see another owner! Hate if you want but just got a great deal on a prior rental two year old Tesla model 3 long range awd for less than 20K (Red) I’ve home built solar both home and work and charge all my electrics on the solar energy I produce. I live in Ohio and all my EV’s (Except the beetle) ended up outside day and night this winter and they were just fine. The new Tesla with Heat Pump is amazing compared to my first gen ev’s. My little Fiat 500e purchased used back in 2017 with sunroof for 8999.00 has been a hoot to drive. These EV’s are actually freedom vehicles. Price of gasoline, availability, or what money I have in my pocket or available on plastic is of no concern anymore. Believe me there are still times that I feel very broke and am glad never to have to pay for gas. Even in the plug in hybrids I travel around with 1 gallon of fuel in the tanks for weeks or months without refilling. No I don’t drive 100 miles a day, if you do congrads – maybe a gas powered vehicle suits you well. It’s supposed to be a free country – Drive what you want and don’t hate others just because they do things differently. I’m almost 60 years old and never really wanted to tear down an engine or distill fluids but I can make a car that runs on electricity and make the energy that it runs on and really not need a mechanic. I live in the country and don’t need to have a gas station. I’ve done the diesels in the 90’s and bought a 2003 Dodge Diesel a while back. Nice truck but will sell it when the right electric truck is produced. Still have a 1996 solectria S-10 EV pickup just for the car shows. If it was 4×4 with a gear transmission that could go even 30 miles it would be enough to meet my needs. Know this – There are more patriots driving EV’s and doing solar then you may realize. We keep our money to ourselves, we are off grid capable and survivalists, and someone you may want to know when the going gets tough.

Zoro
Zoro
March 21, 2024 7:40 am

EV’s make great artificial reefs for fish if you take the batteries out first!