The Pictures Which Should Not Be

Originally posted at Dispatches from Reality, by Scipio Eruditusdfreality.substack.com

31 miles, 28 miles, 27 miles: no measurable curve……

“What I want to bring into the open is the fact that we are using philosophical criteria in choosing our models.

A lot of cosmology tries to HIDE that.”

— George F. R. Ellis, Physicist


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The concept of a spherical Earth was first postulated by the self-proclaimed (and some say mythical) prophet Pythagoras, later emerging from the chambers of the Platonic and Mystery schools. It was not any experimentation or empirical evidence which drove this novel belief, but rather it was a direct manifestation of a religious obsession with the alleged perfection of the sphere. These schools were steeped in esoteric Babylonian rituals and mystical Egyptian beliefs, elevating the sphere to a divine pedestal, weaving it into their cosmological fabric as a symbol of celestial order and heavenly symmetry.

It was this Aristotelian belief which led Eratosthenes to conduct what is often hailed as the first experiment proving the sphericity of the Earth. Take ABC’s article on this experiment for instance:

About 2,250 years ago, there was a man called Eratosthenes.

He was one of those ancient Greeks who changed the world.

He was a polymath, someone with expert knowledge of a range of topics.

A mathematician, geographer, astronomer, philosopher, poet, and music theorist.

He’s famous for being the first person known to have measured the earth’s circumference…

The circumference of the earth was 40,000 kilometres, according to Eratosthenes’ calculations.

Was he correct?

He was incredibly close.

This measurement is more than 2,200 years old, and its accuracy is remarkable

This is quite literally a fairytale fabricated after the fact in order to lend credence to the globe theory.

Upon closer examination of the reported numbers, the historical record reveals glaring deficiencies in Eratosthenes’ methodology and conclusions. The celebrated calculation of the Earth’s circumference, based on the variance of shadow lengths in Syene and Alexandria, stands on shaky ground. Firstly, there are no contemporary records of this experiment, with the earliest records of the event being written hundreds of years later by notoriously unreliable sources. Crucially, Eratosthenes’ estimation of the distances between Syene and Alexandria, a vital parameter in these calculations, is marred by uncertainty. The Greek stadion is a measurement which remains uncertain in the modern age, assumed to measure anywhere from 150 to 210 meters; and that’s before we consider this distance between these two cities, some 500 miles, was likely measured by counting the footsteps between them.

 

 

Eratosthenes concluded from his measurements that the Earth’s circumference was roughly 250,000 stadia: anywhere from ~23,300 miles to ~32,600 miles. He also calculated that the Sun’s distance was 3 million miles from Earth; which, when compared to the modern consensus of 93 million miles (an equally dubious figure), casts further doubt on the accuracy of his measurements. Obviously, those numbers significantly deviate from the currently accepted circumference value of Earth (24,901 miles) relying entirely upon a subjective choice of the stadia length in order to make these calculations appear accurate. Such a colossal discrepancy in this supposedly foundational dataset, particularly as we are in the dark to the true measurements used, fatally undermines the reliability of Eratosthenes “discovery”.

Furthermore, Eratosthenes’ entire methodology rests on a faulty foundation. He only conducted two measurements: even within the mainstream paradigm, this fails to fulfill the basic requirement of three points to establish the geometric nature of a shape such as a sphere. This oversight of course leaves his conclusions susceptible to the errors we have seen, rendering his claims (or speculations really) about the Earth’s spherical nature tenuous — at best. In light of these shortcomings, Eratosthenes’ celebrated achievement must be viewed with a serious dose of skepticism. While his influence on the ancients is indeed undeniable, his supposed discovery of the globe falls exceedingly short under critical scrutiny, revealing more about the limitations of our knowledge than the actual nature of our planet.

Now if the Earth is indeed a sphere, as the Grecian Mystery initiates first posited, it should adhere to certain physical properties which can be empirically measured and quantified.

 


21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”

— First Epistle to the Thessalonians 5:21 KJV


 

Before we discuss my team’s latest findings, let us first re-establish some basic principles of both the globe theory and the propagation of light, as well as our previous findings over Tampa Bay:

Editor’s Note: The following section is excerpted from a previous essay detailing our first experiment of this nature, BC VI: What is the Circle of the Earth?

 

What we have documented should not be physically possible according to the globe theory.

It is, however, perfectly in line with the Biblical description of the Earth.

 

— 9.51 miles laser test over Tampa Bay. February 4th, 2024.

 

The globe model claims a specific circumference of the Earth and a fairly uniform rate of curvature:

A globally-average value is usually considered to be 6,371 kilometres (3,959 mi) with a 0.3% variability (±10 km) for the following reasons. The International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics (IUGG) provides three reference values: the mean radius (R1) of three radii measured at two equator points and a pole; the authalic radius, which is the radius of a sphere with the same surface area (R2); and the volumetric radius, which is the radius of a sphere having the same volume as the ellipsoid (R3). All three values are about 6,371 kilometres (3,959 mi).

Wikipedia

The horizon is not simply an optical effect on the globe model — it is, allegedly, a physical location that can be observed over large bodies of water (emphasis mine):

The horizon is the apparent curve that separates the surface of a celestial body from its sky when viewed from the perspective of an observer on or near the surface of the relevant body. This curve divides all viewing directions based on whether it intersects the relevant body’s surface or not.

The true horizon is a theoretical line, which can only be observed to any degree of accuracy when it lies along a relatively smooth surface such as that of Earth’s oceans.

Wikipedia

The math used to derive the horizon distance is fairly straightforward, resulting in the following formula: the observable distance in miles should be equal to 1.22459 miles multiplied by the square root of the observer’s height in feet.

 

— Source: How far away is the horizon? Washington University.

 

In order to falsify the curvature of the Earth, myself and a small team of Christian scientists decided to replicate an optical laser test that many other “flat earthers” and Biblical cosmologists have performed. In my eyes, the FE Core laser test is the gold standard for experiments of this nature. Our experiment is truly a meagre addendum to the incredible work of the FE Core team.

For our experiment we picked the following two locations situated across Tampa Bay, Florida: Point A was located at the shoreline of Bahai Beach, and Point B was located on the shoreline of Lassing Park. According to our GPS measurements, the distance between Point A and Point B was 9.51 miles. The camera team was at Point A, with both cameras approximately five feet above sea level. Point B was the laser team, with our high-powered blue laser placed approx. three feet above sea level. Both the laser and the Nikon P900 we used to capture this footage were leveled.

Using the curvature formula above — and given that the laser used for this experiment was placed on a tripod three feet above sea level — our laser should have intersected with the horizon at ~2.12 miles, with a hidden height of ~36.4 feet (depending on the varying circumference measurements used).

 

— Bahai Beach to Lassing Park, a distance of 9.51 miles.

— Source: OMNI Calculator.

— Horizon distance in miles given an observer height of three feet. Source: Desmos.

 

I can already predict the response to all of these calculations so far: “But what about refraction?”

I’m glad you asked, let’s discuss that (emphasis mine):

The refraction of light is the bending of light rays as they pass from one medium to another, thereby changing the path of the rays. Refraction occurs due to a change in the speed of the light ray or wave. The speed of light is greatest in a vacuum. When the light rays travel from a rarer to a denser medium, they bend towards the normal. If the light rays travel from a denser to a rarer medium, they bend away from the normal. The greater the density of the media, the higher the refractive index. Snell’s law, or the law of refraction, quantitatively defines the amount of bending of waves dependent on the refractive index of the two media.

Refraction of Light, Kuar & Gurnani

First of all, refraction is a quantifiable and measurable physical phenomenon. That means it can be calculated and accounted for, not just baselessly used to explain away findings we don’t like. Crucially, so long as the light wave is not traveling between mediums, refraction should not even be a factor. But, just to humor the skeptics, let’s calculate it nonetheless.

 

— Source: OMNI Calculator.

 

Given the speed of light through the air and the refractive index of air, we would at most expect to see a divergence of .264 ft over a distance of 9.51 miles. In other words, refraction can not be used explain our findings away — which is, again, assuming it’s even impacting our beam.

But wait, it gets even worse for the globe theory. On the theoretical globe model, any distance past the horizon should be constantly falling away from us. So for this experiment (assuming the globe model is correct), the target’s hidden height is not quite the accurate metric we want to look for. In fact, due to the tangential angle of an observer on a sphere, we should expect to see the laser well overhead of our camera team at Point A (visualized below).

 

— The projected path of our laser on the globe (not to scale). Source: Earth Curve Calculator.

 

As you can plainly see, that is not what we found at all. Not only did we not observe any hidden height on the target, we did not observe any measurable curvature whatsoever.

 

— Nikon P900 footage of our laser test (February 4th, 2024).

 


15 The heart of the prudent getteth knowledge; and the ear of the wise seeketh knowledge.”

— Proverbs 18:15 KJV


 

For our second experiment of this nature, we picked 6 different locations situated across Lake Okeechobee, Florida. This location was ideal for this type of experiment for a couple of reasons: firstly, it is the one of the largest inland bodies of water in North America, providing ample distance over which the camera shy curve should be measurable; and secondly, the lake is ringed by copious amounts of public access points.

Our laser was the same model as last time, a 1,200mW blue laser pointer with a beam diameter of 2mmx5mm and a beam divergence of 1.5mRad — factors which will be more relevant during this experiment. Due to unfortunate technical difficulties, we had to resort to using an iPhone 13 Pro to capture this footage. The camera was placed at roughly the same height as the laser during this experiment (except where annotated at Point 3A), although precise measurements were impossible due to these unforeseen circumstances.

It is theoretically possible that refraction at these distances could impact the beam in a discernible yet still negligible way, with a potential upward refraction of ~.75-1.1 feet. There is also the vast change in the beam’s height brought on by even a minute shift in the angle: at 28 miles, 1/60th of a degree shift would equate to ~41 feet of movement on the other end. Windy conditions caused difficulties obtaining the same level of precision as our Tampa Bay experiment, and we were stretching the theoretical limits of this laser’s capabilities. Nonetheless, while the picture quality is not what we captured last time with our Nikon P900, our findings remain unexplainable within the mainstream scientific paradigm.

 

— Lake Okeechobee, FL.

 

Point 1A was located at the shoreline of the Canal Point Recreation Center, and Point 1B was located at the shoreline of the Sam Griffith Overlook. According to our GPS measurements, the distance between Points 1A and 1B was 28.04 miles. At Point 1B, our laser was placed on a tripod, totaling ~10 feet above sea level, so our laser should have intersected with the horizon at ~3.87 miles with a hidden height of ~389.5 feet. That is not what we observed, and instead the focal point of the laser was indeed visible.

 

— Expected hidden height between Point 1A-1B. Source: Earth Curve Calculator.

— Photographs of Position 1B (May 4th, 2024).

 

Point 2A was located at the Pahokee Campground Marina, and Point 2B was located at Lake Okeechobee Park. According to our GPS measurements, the distance between Points 2A and 2B was 27.33 miles. At Point 2A, our camera was ~10 feet above sea level, so our vision should have been blocked by the horizon at ~3.87 miles. At Point 2B, our laser was placed on a tripod, totaling ~20 feet above sea level, so our laser should have intersected with the horizon at ~5.47 miles with a hidden height of ~318.48 feet. That is not what we observed, as the focal point of the laser was once again visible.

 

— Expected hidden height between Point 2A. Source: Earth Curve Calculator.

— Expected hidden height between Point 2B. Source: Earth Curve Calculator.

— Photographs of Position 2B (May 4th, 2024).

 

Point 3A was located at the Herbert Hoover Dike, and Point 3B was located at the Nubbin Slough Boat Launch. According to our GPS measurements, the distance between Points 3A and 3B was 31.20 miles. At Point 3A, our camera was ~45 feet above sea level, so our vision should have been blocked by the horizon at ~8.21 miles. At Point 3B, our laser was placed on a tripod ~20 feet above sea level, so our laser should have intersected with the horizon at ~5.47 miles with a hidden height of ~318.48 feet. Again, that is not what we observed.

 

— Expected hidden height from Point 3A. Source: Earth Curve Calculator.

— Expected hidden height from Point 3B. Source: Earth Curve Calculator.

— Photograph of Position 3B (May 4th, 2024).

 

While the tangential angle of an observer on a sphere could be invoked to explain these particular findings away, there remains a significant problem for that claim. Due to the beam divergence of this laser over these distances, the observable diameter of the laser beam once it crossed the theoretical horizon of the observer should vary anywhere from ~198 feet – 245 feet (Source: OMNI).

The fact that we can see the focal point of the laser at any of these distances — let alone all four of our recorded tests — is so outside of the mere realm of chance, atmos conditions, or random probability that it stretches credulity.

 


1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.”

— The Gospel of John 1:1-5 KJV


 

The establishment of a spherical Earth, heralded as a triumph of ancient wisdom, is a tale spun from the looms of Platonic reverie and mystic rituals. It was not born from the crucible of empirical observation, but from a fervent devotion to the celestial host. Pythagoras laid the foundational stones of this belief, one where the sphere was not just a shape, but rather, a symbol of divine order. Eratosthenes is consistently lauded as the discoverer of the current globe model, yet that narrative stands on seriously questionable grounds when subjected to the scrutiny of critical analysis. The alliance between Platonists and the Mystery schools in propagating the spherical Earth is not a tale of scientific enlightenment, but a narrative woven from the threads of religious devotion. The perfect symmetry of the sphere became a vessel for their celestial aspirations, a testament to their faith in Man’s wisdom.

A dark haze now veils much of The Church and a profound spiritual blindness has taken root, leading us astray from Truth and into the unending abyss of deception engineered through “science falsely so called” (I Timothy 6:20).

We’ve discarded millennia of fundamental doctrines, replacing them instead with our newfound scientific dogmas. In so many sectors, today’s Church leaders must hopelessly twist Scripture in order to fit unchanging truths into their evershifting scientific paradigm: newfound theological theories are invented in order to harmonize fraudulent or fallacious discoveries with the inerrant Word of God. What so many of them fail to see, refuse to see, or don’t care to discern, is that much of these “scientific” claims stem not from logic or reason, but rather from pagan philosophers and devotees of the Mystery religion (a topic which I have explored in BC II: Scientism vs. Science). There is a direct spiritual lineage from the ancient Babylonian mysteries to modern scientism, unveiling a hidden religious zeal that animated so many of the storied propagators of the globe theory, ultimately leading humanity astray with false promises of “enlightenment” in the misguided and futile attempt to eclipse God’s majestic order.

The Church’s tacit demeaning of Genesis, even having the audacity to cast it as a mere allegory, has fundamentally distorted our perception of reality for centuries, if not millenia.

 


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Mary Christine
Mary Christine
May 7, 2024 8:38 am

Ruh roh! You just opened a can-o-worms.😁 I’ll be back later for the food fight.

In the mean time, this link has a description of what the earth would look like based on the description in the Bible. Credit Dr Michael Heiser, though he said God gave this description because the Ancients would not have understood a globe cosmology.

https://moreunseenrealm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Heiser-Genesis-and-Ancient-Near-Eastern-Cosmology-FSB.pdf

This was also briefly discussed on last Saturdays Now You See TV. David Carrico said he was dragged kicking and screaming into believing the Biblical description of the earth.

Mr. Hyde
Mr. Hyde
May 7, 2024 8:50 am

You’re putting us on, right?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mr. Hyde
May 7, 2024 9:43 am

Right? Again with this crap.

There must be a name for smart-person cognitive bias.

Blind and Blissful

Mr. Hyde
Mr. Hyde
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 10:29 am

They think they are so smart that any crazy idea they get must be the truth. Common sense must be on a gene that some don’t get.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mr. Hyde
May 7, 2024 11:15 am

So then examine the evidence. Its called evidence. The fact remains. Something stinks!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 5:05 pm

it certainly isnt ‘evidence’ … lets put this really simply, if Tesla didnt comment on it then you are probably wrong.

Biff Tannenbaum
Biff Tannenbaum
May 7, 2024 9:41 am

https://adl.place/shanes-fe-model

This guys 3D geometric model and subsequent proofs of geocentrism are worth reviewing. Also watch any David Weiss video on how FE works.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Biff Tannenbaum
May 7, 2024 10:54 am

Professor Dave Humiliates Flat Earther David Weiss (DITRH Debunked Live)

More:

Askimet
Askimet
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 1:16 pm

Turtles all the way down.

K.J.
K.J.
May 7, 2024 9:50 am

Give me a fking break already with this shit. They use this ridiculous “flat earth” nonsense to discredit all the other “conspiracy theories” that are actually true, such as JFK assassination being a coordinated effort, the “manned moon landings” never happening, 9/11 being an inside job involving Very Special People, “covid” being a con job, etc.

august
august
  K.J.
May 7, 2024 12:07 pm

Indeed; the New Flat Earth concept is just one more form of disinformation, intended to befuddle helpless little normies.

I just don’t know what to believe anymore!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  august
May 7, 2024 4:10 pm

“In reading The History of Nations, we find that, like individuals, they have their whims and their peculiarities, their seasons of excitement and recklessness, when they care not what they do. We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first.”
― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1033191-memoirs-of-extraordinary-popular-delusions-and-the-madness-of-crowds

Jdog
Jdog
  K.J.
May 8, 2024 11:25 pm

You nailed it.

Musquo
Musquo
May 7, 2024 10:05 am

I would be curious to know if any of those who ran these tests have gone to out to sea to the point no land or objects on the land are visible. Then head back towards the land. Watching how the various building/land appear.

AnonNoMores
AnonNoMores
  Musquo
May 7, 2024 2:31 pm

I have been a USCG 100 ton MMC captain since 2019. Part of my training and testing was calculating, when you are at sea, when will the light house be visible to your vessel.

The calculations were very specific. The eye sight height of the observer on the boat over the water line. The maps list the height of the light house light at zero tide. You must also include the current tide. If I remember correctly (always doubtful lol) I think the test problem was like 13 miles visibility, for a 60 foot light house, and the observer 14 feet above.

I have decided to buy a Nikon P1000 (which has been discontinued as of March 2024, Nikon citing a “long term deal with NASA”, hmm.) off of Ebay.

This summer, when I travel to the San Juan Islands, I will attempt to view the Port Angeles, WA light house across the straight of Juan de Fuca, 45 miles away with the camera on a tripod on the beach.

I have no skin in the game. I do not care what shape the earth is. The shape of the earth has zero effect on my life. I will do an experiment and examine the data.

Anyone who states that they “know” what shape the earth is is full of shit. You only believe what you think you know. Unless you have been 250 miles above the earth, you can shut the fuck up now.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  AnonNoMores
May 7, 2024 4:05 pm

One does not need to be 250 miles above the Earth to determine than, just as many other measurements may be taken without, say moving to Proxima Centauri. You may now STFU, know-it-all . . . and, BTW, it’s straits, not straights.

Ivana Tinkle
Ivana Tinkle
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 5:04 pm
Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 5:08 pm

list any accomplishments that you have done or any skills that you have developed over your life…

right now you are at the, “I am a flat earth groupie” because you have no knowledge, skills, or ability to do any of the math yourself. If it just easier to let other people do your thinking for you.

Ivana Tinkle
Ivana Tinkle
  AnonNoMores
May 7, 2024 5:02 pm

Was that 14 feet above sea level?

Because water always finds it’s level.

It’s always called sea level not sea curvature.

AnonNoMores
AnonNoMores
  Ivana Tinkle
May 7, 2024 5:18 pm

To clarify, the observer on the vessel eye height is 14 feet above vessel water line. The lighthouse light is 60 feet above zero tide level, you must then +/- the current tide level from the zero tide level of the light house.

The curvature of the ocean was specifically stated in the lessons. A formula was given to calculate what the distance between the vessel and the lighthouse would be, when object first becomes visible on the horizon. The formula required that you plugged in the variables (observer eye height over water, light house height @ zero tide +/- the current tide level).

I passed the USGC exam. I never validated in real life. I will validate in real life this summer! My 5 year re-up is this November, so I can use this to refresh on the math for the test.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Musquo
May 7, 2024 6:59 pm

I’ll take perspective for $500, Alex…..so?

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 7, 2024 10:10 am

Go big or go home.
Do 500 miles.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 10:28 am

Or learn about flightpaths, etc.:

.

.

Top comment:
@TimsFoyleHeadgear2 years ago
I love how flat earthers think a floating ball in space is craaaaaazy, but a flat disc surrounded by ice, guarded by the evil government sounds completely reasonable.

P.S.: It matters not a whit whether the Earth is either flat, or an oblate spheroid; all that matters is that TBP Admin Quinn is just bored with hockey, so he repeatedly posts Col. Kurt Shitlicher, flat Erf kaka, and other inflammatory, cage-match stuff, like Miss Stephanie’s hackle-raising taunts (she may be Admin’s long-lost cousin), and State of the Nation’s hyperbole, just so he can sit back and have a snicker, while Rome-On-The-Potomac burns.

august
august
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 12:10 pm

The airlines are in on it, too.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  august
May 7, 2024 12:25 pm

/sarc?

BL
BL
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 12:31 pm

proven not/sarc.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
May 7, 2024 2:20 pm

No, it isn’t. The opposite it proven. There are economic reasons for less air traffic across the southern hemisphere, as fully discussed in the video.

Peter Horry
Peter Horry
  august
May 7, 2024 3:59 pm

Naw, the airlines are too busy deliberately spraying chem-trails on every Tom, Dick and Harry on the planet, including rich people, poor people, Khazarian Jews, Illumitati, and 33d Degree Masons, Palestinians, Trannies, and *their own fucking children*, to be involved in the Flat Earth nonsense.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Peter Horry
May 7, 2024 4:08 pm

Yes, but actually, an awful lot of the spraying is apparently being done by drones or something, as many are not on flight paths and sometime follow strange patterns, or are in the middle of nowhere – off the the beaten sky-path, if you will.

Ivana Tinkle
Ivana Tinkle
  Peter Horry
May 7, 2024 7:08 pm

Those are high attitude military airplanes, I wonder why they call it a plane?

BL
BL
May 7, 2024 10:23 am

Grunge, you blinded them with science. Stop trying to prove that we live in a place created for us by God, just as it is described in the bible, to live at peace with nature .

They prefer to believe we are insignificant specks in the universe with little or no worth to be used as slaves and slaughtered at will by the dark side. Failing to understand who they are is why humanity has no control over the Earthly plane, which is so completely unfortunate.

Well done presentation, Grunge. Now back to the regularly scheduled dark side programming.

anonymous 2
anonymous 2
  BL
May 7, 2024 1:30 pm

BL, you don’t even have to invoke the universe on this. We are all insignificant specks within our own country, our own state, and even our own community. When you or I die, life moves on. Within a generation, no one will know what you did or that you even existed. You can work 40 yrs at a company and a week after you retire, it will be as if you were never there. All we can do is live the best life we can, cherish our family while we have them and be right with God.

Jdog
Jdog
  BL
May 8, 2024 11:49 pm

So how is that living at peace with nature thing working bucko? From my perspective, not only are we not living in peace with anything, we are doing our best to destroy both mankind and every other living thing on this planet.
We are currently living in a world, where the more evil and psychopathic people are, the more wealth and power they have and the better they survive, while the poor people are victimized, exploited, starved and murdered every day of their miserable lives…
I suppose that when that 6 yr old little Palestinian girl was begging for her life in that car after the IDF murdered her family, and then used her to draw in rescue workers so they could assassinate them, and then finally murder her, that was all part of “gods plan” right? I mean after all, those genocidal murderers who are filling mass graves with hospital workers for the crime of saving peoples lives are gods chosen people… right?
Is your god really that big of a fuck up?

Chick Lyttle
Chick Lyttle
May 7, 2024 10:57 am

In this flat earth delusion, what are the shapes of the other planets, or the sun?

They must all be flat too.
Correct?
Or is earth a special case?

I love it.
People who bow their heads to non existant gods, also believe the earth is flat and the sky is falling.
What next?
Blame a trace gas for causing weather?

BL
BL
  Chick Lyttle
May 7, 2024 12:14 pm

Where did you see picrures of other planets? NASA? You’re killing me right now.

Chickie bring us proof of the shape of any planet that does not come from the imaginarium depart of TPTB. I don’t know what exact shape this plane has but if I were to bet on it, I would bet the famous Pink Floyd album cover is a clue.

Askimet
Askimet
  BL
May 7, 2024 1:25 pm

I can see how energy is transformed into “atoms” in the sun.
This, [what the sun actually does] is the beginning of all wisdom.

AnonNoMores
AnonNoMores
  Chick Lyttle
May 7, 2024 2:34 pm

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Chick Lyttle
May 7, 2024 3:26 pm

Mars is the shape of a double scoop ice cream cone.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 6:30 pm

That is worse than the CGI from NASA.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 8, 2024 6:16 pm

Neptune is shaped like a bowler hat.

Noots
Noots
  Anonymous
May 8, 2024 9:48 pm

“And Leon’s getting larger!”

squeezey
squeezey
May 7, 2024 11:14 am

is it fake and gay yogi?
it’s always fake and gay booboo.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
May 7, 2024 11:52 am

Isaiah 40:22
King James Version
22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Eyes Wide Shut
May 8, 2024 1:28 pm

‘circle of the earth’ is a disk, genius. A tent is not a spherical shell.

Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Deuteronomy 4:18 (KJV):
The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:

Joshua 10:13 (KJV):
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Job 26:10 (KJV):
He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.

Job 38:4 (KJV):
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:13 (KJV):
That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

Psalm 75:3 (KJV):
The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.

Psalm 104:5 (KJV):
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

Daniel 4:11 (KJV):
The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth:

Philippians 2:10 (KJV): That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Revelation 4:1 (KJV)
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

You neurotic liars are heartless. So infallible is your understanding.

Noots
Noots
  'Reality' Doug
May 8, 2024 9:50 pm

And the magi were magic practicing astrologers.

Rifles are the Cure
Rifles are the Cure
May 7, 2024 11:57 am

“was located at the shoreline of Bahai Beach, and Point B was located on the shoreline of Lassing Park. According to our GPS measurements, the distance between Point A and Point B was 9.51 miles”

Ummmm
Am l the only one who noticed this?!
And GPS is an acronym for what?!

Chick Lyttle
Chick Lyttle
  Rifles are the Cure
May 7, 2024 12:15 pm

Nice catch:
We used the geostationary satellites to confirm the distance.

How do geostationary satellites work in FE world?

BL
BL
  Rifles are the Cure
May 7, 2024 12:18 pm

GPS would work better in a flat Earth scenario, dillbert.

BL
BL
  BL
May 7, 2024 12:20 pm

Don’t sit around and wait for them to call it FEPS, rifle cure. You and chickie need to form a flat head society.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Rifles are the Cure
May 7, 2024 12:19 pm

GPS. Its just a name. A moniker. Could just as easily been named : Upper Stratospheric Positioning Satellites.

jde
jde
May 7, 2024 12:06 pm

praise jesus we got a laser!

I’m tired of people complaining about mystery religions who don’t understand that they also follow one. Complaining about Platonism while throwing around ‘logos’. Quoted from a chapter that calls their hero a rabbi, no less.

According to our GPS measurements”

This is why I don’t even counter-troll flat earthers anymore. I had a whole thing ready about lenses being a hermetic conspiracy, it’s fun but people are stupid enough already. If someone can unironically use GPS like this…

It’s no wonder they can’t see the contradictions and fabrications and outright jewishness of the book our people have been cursed with. Is it like schooling, does it destroy any healthy mental abilities in whites? Or does it draw in those most spiritually similar to the jew? Either way,

judea delenda est

BL
BL
  jde
May 7, 2024 12:37 pm

Take the religion out of it and the science which both are flawed systems created by man. Then what do you have? NO IDEA in reality what shape this place really would be, if at all. Could be we operate completely in a cerebral construct.

Heavy dude.

jde
jde
  BL
May 7, 2024 12:53 pm

Go live away from people and outdoors for a while. It crushes some of the larger flights of fancy.

BL
BL
  jde
May 7, 2024 12:57 pm

That would be of benefit to most of humanity, jde.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  BL
May 8, 2024 1:59 pm

Science has checks to maximally filter out man’s flaws of perception. Trans-Judaism ideologies have orifices upon orifices to maximally draw in Gentiles by their flaws of perception. Do not equate science or reason with monotheistic, unifying theology or faith.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  jde
May 7, 2024 2:40 pm

Latest jab will be out soon. Make sure you line up to get it. Rube.

jde
jde
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 11:12 pm

If you are going to disparage me for being a country person not believing your bible bullshit, at least find a name not based off a jew. Pagan is practically synonymous with goyim, heathen is technically more accurate. You’re grasping at straws, or perhaps needles, if you have to change the subject to clotshots.

cz
cz
May 7, 2024 12:08 pm

Joshua 10:13
you either believe the bible or you don’t.
now run with your scientism and ignore all else.
none of the naysayers have an answer for the laser tests he’s done.

jde
jde
  cz
May 7, 2024 12:45 pm

you either believe the bible or you don’t.”

indeed

Askimet
Askimet
  cz
May 7, 2024 1:22 pm

There are three options with perception of the bible’s value:
1. It is the true word of god.
2. It is a lie made up by men.
3. It is at once, the word of god and stories made up by men.

Only # three matches all the available evidence.
Three unlocks the bible’s truths.

Simplicus Carpenterius / framius stupidicus
Simplicus Carpenterius / framius stupidicus
  cz
May 7, 2024 8:49 pm

I have to admit that I didn’t come any where near reading the whole article , but I can tell you that you don’t have to get all that far out in distance before your Laser’s accuracy starts to drop off .

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  cz
May 8, 2024 2:01 pm

My answer is anyone who believes is biblical ‘science’ is a fucking moron. Flying planes over the flat earth is a proven science, of course.

Chick Lyttle
Chick Lyttle
May 7, 2024 12:33 pm

The light went over your heads quite a bit in photos 1B, 2B and 3B.
How far above your heads was the actual beam height in these pics?

BL
BL
May 7, 2024 1:03 pm

I’ll be away on a mission for a few days, I’ll check in occasionally to see who decides the shape of the plane, not that it matters if you enjoy your enslavement. Cheers.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
May 7, 2024 2:29 pm

what kind of mission?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 4:03 pm

It’s his turn to spray chemtrails over the flat earth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 6:33 pm

His mission, if he accepts it, is to go to yo mama’s.

Askimet
Askimet
May 7, 2024 1:12 pm

How’d you level the laser beam?

Askimet
Askimet
May 7, 2024 1:29 pm

Jesus saith unto them [while holding up a Nike air Jordan sneaker] “God shall bless the surface of the earth.But only one side.”
The other side is cursed.”

Askimet
Askimet
May 7, 2024 2:17 pm

Lord what a retard.

You post this:

“The globe model claims a specific circumference of the Earth and a fairly uniform rate of curvature:”

And immediately follow with this:

“A globally-average value is usually considered to be 6,371 kilometres (3,959 mi) with a 0.3% variability (±10 km) for the following reasons.”

Jenny: “Are you stupid or something?”

RiNS
RiNS
May 7, 2024 3:03 pm

Seriously evidence of brain damage buried in that maff..

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RiNS
May 7, 2024 6:38 pm

Maff is hard…….

Htos1av
Htos1av
May 7, 2024 3:04 pm

Well, sure! Electron, neutrons, protons, atoms, etc., are 2D and flat….

/sarc=”off”

Known Associate
Known Associate
May 7, 2024 5:24 pm

It’s called “baffle them with bullshit”.

The circumference of the earth has been measured precisely with modern instruments from ORBIT, you fucking idiots, where the distance of the observation is in THOUSANDS of miles.

The early astronomers (think Stonehenge) spent hundreds of years refining their observations before they moved the big stones. They got it right with no scripture and it still works.

You cannot calculate these things with scripture, especially the Old Testament, which is a book of ritual abuse written by the early globalists.

Sigh…

jde
jde
  Known Associate
May 7, 2024 11:26 pm

You just don’t understand the proper ritual usage of a bloody foreskin to shape reality.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 7, 2024 5:41 pm

You can show people these videos and evidence all day long and they still won’t believe it. You can show them objects though a telescope 50 miles away and they still won’t believe it.

As you said, they’ll say thing like “refraction!” or “It’s a mirage”.

Absolutely nothing will change their minds.

jde
jde
  Anonymous
May 7, 2024 11:38 pm

That’s not true. Back when this psyop began and large numbers of videos were being made and pushed everywhere, plenty of people changed what passes for their mind.

Jdog
Jdog
  Anonymous
May 8, 2024 11:54 pm

So genius, explain to me exactly how seasons work with a flat earth……

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
May 7, 2024 11:06 pm

On a clear day when I stand on my tippy toes I can see Jesus. I’ll write up a complete post if you want it, Admin.

Stephen
Stephen
May 7, 2024 11:35 pm

You admitted to using GPS, a technology that can’t possibly work orbiting a flat earth.

jde
jde
  Stephen
May 8, 2024 1:02 am

Of course it could work, you just have to stick them to the firmament. What the satellites that are moving are doing, we can never know, and you are a bad person if you ask.

Even better, just pretend satellites don’t exist.

VOWG
VOWG
May 8, 2024 8:56 am

There is a level of stupid out there that is just mind boggling.

H2O
H2O
May 8, 2024 11:46 am

sigh.

Do you have friends or family on a farm ? Go out to visit and just observe nature – do you see any “flat” things – like flat eggs, or flat swamp gas bubbles; ever look in the mirror – are your eyeballs flat ?

The Scipio’s of our world are the followers, and enablers, of the uninformed; either consciously, or otherwise.

People are going to believe whatever they want to believe; and maybe that’s why we’re here, to figure it out, to become informed, and then move on to the next lesson.

Noother
Noother
May 8, 2024 9:47 pm

If the earth and ocean are flat..placing a leveled laser 10 feet above ths water, pointing across the water in any direction to another point 10 feet above the water should be visible from New England to West Europe.

Show me that laser and ya got convert.

Jdog
Jdog
May 8, 2024 11:36 pm

Well, this just goes to show that anyone stupid enough to believe in a god, is stupid enough to believe in a flat earth.
So will just one of you Einstein’s who believe in a flat earth explain to me in detail how the seasons work with a flat earth. Please include in your explanation why northern and southern areas of the planet experience such dramatic changes in daylight and nighttime hours while you are at it, and an explanation of lunar eclipses would also be helpful. Then we can start on the nautical fact of the 3 mile vision limit at sea, and why when you are at the beach and watch the sun set, you can climb the lifeguard tower and see the sun again.