MIDDLE EAST PROGRESS

“Facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored.” – Aldous Huxley

Could someone post the videos of the carnage being inflicted upon Israel by those Hamas rocket strikes? I must be looking in the wrong place.

The moment an Israeli bomb smashes a Gaza market is caught on camera by an independent Palestinian television company. The Israeli strike targeted the outskirts of the Shujayea district, during a humanitarian window. 17 people were killed and more than 200 wounded.

At least 15 Palestinians, including a journalist and two paramedics, were killed when Israeli airstrikes hit a busy market place in Gaza. The shopping area was busy because Israel’s 4-hour humanitarian ceasefire was supposed to have been in force. Israel’s four week bombardment has claimed more than 1300 Palestinian lives, the majority were civilians.

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Steve Hogan
Steve Hogan

Whatever one’s view of the messy Israel/Palestine conflict, one thing is undeniable: the families of these victims have very long memories.

I would be very nervous if I were an Israeli, especially those in the settlements. The longer Israel waits to negotiate a long-term agreement, the more intense the hatred by Arabs and Muslims.

Stucky

“Could someone post the videos of the carnage being inflicted upon Israel by those Hamas rocket strikes? I must be looking in the wrong place.” ———– Admin

It’s not about “looking”, it’s about understanding. And you don’t understand shit.

—- You don’t understand that it’s not about results, it’s about INTENT. If your Section 8 neighbor points a gun at you, do you wait to act until after the resulting gun shot? No! You take preventative action.

—- You don’t understand that Israel has the right to do ANYTHING to protect itself.

—- You don’t understand that Mooslims are subhuman and they hate their kids.

—- You don’t understand that all this would stop if Hamas would simply stop firing off rockets. It’s 100% their fault.

Don’t feel bad about being a dumb-ass. I was one also. But, yesterday, llpoh helped me see the light. Halleluiah. Please read his posts. Then go to CNN. There you will see dozens of various Jewish leaders telling us how peace-loving they are at heart … that every civilian death causes them great sorrow. They can’t all be lying. Do all this and you will be a smarter person.

Dutchman
Dutchman

I thought suicide bombers showed the insanity of the Islamists. However, the tunnels demostrate the absolute insanity of these ‘Sand Niggers’.

It would be one thing to dig a tunnel – but to excavate 20 – 30 tunnels – some 2 kilometers long – by hand – and then concrete reinforcement – these people are absolutely insane.

I say bomb them back to 1100 AD, from whence they came!

Stucky

Dutchman

Yours is the voice of reason in an insane world.

Please post moar Wisdom.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill

Dutch, tunnels like this exist along the Texas/Mexican border.

It’s not about religion but a way to transfer goods, be they produce, clothes, meth, pot or cocaine.

Thinker

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Llpoh
Llpoh

These same folks that are now homeless elected Hamas as their government, and stand idly by while Hamas uses civilians as human shields.

The whole thing is a clusterfuck.

Olga
Olga

James Howard Kuntsler is fond of describing “tragic” as the Greek tragedies of times past when a person/family/culture/society make a very bad choice and are then required to live with the consequences.

At some point the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe decided that returning to Jerusalem – a place their ancestors were run out of centuries before – was a good idea. Never mind that there were Semitic Jews that had never left and were still scattered all over the ME – the long removed European Jews decided the old testament was a real estate contract, they convinced themselves [and others] that the lightly populated region – as compared to Europe – was actually empty – and off the Zionists went.

And after awhile they decided they needed more real estate and the State of Israel grew settlement after settlement after settlement – all of which they were able to hang on to militarily due to the financial and military aid received from the USA.

Now add to the mix that all this paradoxically coincides with the realization that the West’s entire life-style DEMANDS cheap oil – and the plentiful oil found throughout the ME was the epitome of cheap and now there is another dot worth connecting.

Perhaps America needed a base of operations to maintain the chaos required to play one group off another to keep the cheap oil flowing?

The entire history of Israel reeks of tragedy, greed and short-sightedness – and the consequences suck.

Our National addiction to cheap oil has made us identical to any heroin-addicted thief or whore, junkie or dealer – not something I imagine our founding fathers imagined and certainly lacking the integrity I desire.

I am tired of being Israel’s bitch, I’m tired of being addicted to cheap oil and I’m tired of financially underpinning a very tragic set of choices.

Rise Up
Rise Up

Clif High at halfpasthuman.com said his web bots “predicted” a “Israeli Mistake”. Maybe this is it.
Many of his internet word search algorithm predictions don’t materialize, but sometimes he nails it (9/11 being the biggie). Also sometimes the forecasted event happens but much later, sometimes years later.

I don’t know enough about the long history of this conflict to take a particular side, but Hamas is definitely a terrorist outfit from what I see. I suppose they say the same of the IDF. Pervasive conflicts among various factions throughout the middle east are twisted like a pretzel.

War is hell.

Stucky

“The whole thing is a clusterfuck.” ——–Llpoh

On that we agree 110%.

Stucky

“I am tired of being Israel’s bitch,…” ———-Olga

Patience, grasshopper.

Israel dies the day USA!USA!USA! dies.

steve
steve

Hey , to admin and the other Palestine ” biatches”…… Quit posting quasi-naieve , sarcastic ramblings on how unfair it is how the ghetto gazans are getting their asses handed to them. It kinda makes you look dumb ( and we know you’re highly intelligent…. At least in admins’ case) or like you’re rooting the losing on ON PURPOSE, knowing damn well the joos are a 45 pound Bobcat toying with a 4 ounce field mouse. Its not ever going to be a close fight. You’d think seeing your friends and family members blown to bits and bleeding to death under piles of desert concrete would cause one to think logically about negotiations in good faith to have an agreement for long term peace in living side by side with Israel. But Hamas /plo/ whatever the hell they’re calling themselves these days are nut jobs….. Islamist nut jobs. And guess what…… They were democratically elected/selected by a majority of those poor helpless peace-loving refugee/Palestinians….. They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind and wonder why!
There are no “civilian” Palestinians…. They are all willing co-sponsors and fellow terrorist laborers in the centuries old attack of world vs. GOD. Like it or not, Israel is GOD’S chosen nation and mooslims hate The ONE TRUE KING… And anyone allying with God is now and will always be a target of their soul-killing eternal hatred.
Even if the joos wipe Gaza clean of the cancer they have allowed to settle and grow there for years, it will not be over.
Those reading my words who know how this all ends know of what I speak.
I don’t rejoice in suffering.
What I see in that video is justice…..

Stucky

Steve

You should consider running for Prime Minister of Israel. Just let “FUCK PALESTINIANS!” be your campaign motto and you’ll do just great.

Jehobah is on your side, fer sure.

Shalom.

IndenturedServant

Admin, move yourself and your family to Israel in range of those Hamas rockets. I suspect you’ll begin to form some very sharp mental pictures of the “carnage” you’re looking for. If you’re lucky, or unlucky as the case may be, a few might get through the defenses and provide you with opportunities to take actual pictures and video of the carnage.

Llpoh
Llpoh

IS – having pissed the Admin off many times, I know what buttons work on him.

I think your last post pushed just about all of them.

Enjoy the experience!

IndenturedServant

I’m not trying to push buttons….just trying to help him find the images he’s looking for!

Llpoh
Llpoh

IS – I notice you waited until he was asleep to post that. That was either very smart or quite, how shall I say it, cowardly. Lets go with smart.

If you really want to steam him up also call into question Ron Paul’s ethics. He loves that.

IndenturedServant

What can I say? I took the day off so normally I’d be at work where I read but don’t post. Instead I was out touring almost two dozen breweries in my area. I just got home and noticed his call for help and being the helpful type I responded. I’ll probably still be up when he wakes up but my bedtime is 3-5am west coast so we might miss each other.

Admins tough. I’m sure he’ll accept it in the helpful manner it was intended!

IndenturedServant

I’m sure Ron Paul has impeccable ethics but he’s about as effective as Baghdad Bob!

Zarathustra

IndenturedServant says:

Admin, move yourself and your family to Israel in range of those Hamas rockets.
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Give Hamas more advances weapons then so they can just target the Israeli military.

Zarathustra

Llpoh says:

These same folks that are now homeless elected Hamas as their government, and stand idly by while Hamas uses civilians as human shields.

The whole thing is a clusterfuck.
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I have read that the Israeli soldiers are tying palestinian children to the hoods of their vehicles.

IndenturedServant

Zara said:
“Give Hamas more advances weapons then so they can just target the Israeli military.”

If you believe that would really happen then you are surpassing some bb level stupidty right there!

Zarathustra

ndenturedServant says:

Zara said:
“Give Hamas more advances weapons then so they can just target the Israeli military.”

If you believe that would really happen then you are surpassing some bb level stupidty right there!
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Maybe in your poisoned mind. They use what they have. I say give them the means to defend themselves, if they still target civilians indescrimately then you can blame them but not until then.

Can you seriously defend the blockade of Gaza by Israel or the bombing of their only electrical power plant? The Israelis are the real terrorists and any educated and disinterested person can see that.

IndenturedServant

So why doesn’t Hamas only target the patrols and checkpoints? Why do they target densely populated cites? You might be right, give them better weapons and lets see who they target. My money is on “any dead Jew is a good Jew” as their targeting strategy.

I don’t give two shits about any of them to be honest. If 2000+ years of ongoing conflict has not been sorted out by now then it never will.

Israel has every right to defend themselves from indiscriminate weapons fire and if Hamas insists on launching rockets from schools etc where they also stockpile weapons and then defend those locations with women and children………they should not be the slightest bit surprised when their human shields fail to stop the carnage. It’s all bullshit and they deserve each other.

I will defend the bombing of their only electric plant. Not because I give a shit about any of it but because maybe if they had to spend a little more time living life without the convenience of electricity, maybe they’d have less time to acquire and launch rockets. Actually I can’t defend that because that would be equivalent to believing that giving more accurate weapons to Hamas would mean they’d only target the military! LOL!

I would be in favor of reducing the Jews and muslims to about two dozen breeding pairs each and see if the fucking savages might be able to focus on something else for awhile.

Zarathustra

IndenturedServant says:

So why doesn’t Hamas only target the patrols and checkpoints? Why do they target densely populated cites? You might be right, give them better weapons and lets see who they target. My money is on “any dead Jew is a good Jew” as their targeting strategy.

I don’t give two shits about any of them to be honest. If 2000+ years of ongoing conflict has not been sorted out by now then it never will.

Israel has every right to defend themselves from indiscriminate weapons fire and if Hamas insists on launching rockets from schools etc where they also stockpile weapons and then defend those locations with women and children………they should not be the slightest bit surprised when their human shields fail to stop the carnage. It’s all bullshit and they deserve each other.

I will defend the bombing of their only electric plant. Not because I give a shit about any of it but because maybe if they had to spend a little more time living life without the convenience of electricity, maybe they’d have less time to acquire and launch rockets. Actually I can’t defend that because that would be equivalent to believing that giving more accurate weapons to Hamas would mean they’d only target the military! LOL!

I would be in favor of reducing the Jews and muslims to about two dozen breeding pairs each and see if the fucking savages might be able to focus on something else for awhile
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I am thinking about writing an article titled “The No State Solution.” Why? Because the two state solution is a fantasy; there is no such thing as Palestine anymore and there is no way you could evict the 700,000 Israeli settlers from the west bank. The whole ridiculous sideshow about an Iranian nuclear weapons program is just a ruse to deflect the worlds attention from what Israel is doing in the West Bank and Gaza.

Likewise the one state solution won’t work either because the Zionists would never accept it, since it would mean the end of zionism. Evicting the four million Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank is also a fantasy, so what’s left is the one answer that makes sense. No central government. No Israel, No Palestine, just individual communities who either have to find a way to cooperate with each other or just kill each other until there is nobody with hate left. What is today called Israel could become the world’s first anarcho-capitalist country.

Who is going to invade that place anyway? Israel/Palestine doesnt need need a standing army, it needs no atomic bombs, submarines or tanks. They could form voluntary militias to fend off ISIS if necessary.

Until then, I maintain my belief that Israell is the No 1. terrorist, rogue state in the world and until it is disarmed and destroyed, nobody in the world is safe, as it has proven time and time again that it is utterly ruthless.

Zarathustra

IndenturedServant says:

I will defend the bombing of their only electric plant. Not because I give a shit about any of it but because maybe if they had to spend a little more time living life without the convenience of electricity, maybe they’d have less time to acquire and launch rockets.
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Okay you have convinced me. Either you are an Israel-firster e.g traitor, or you are simply not human.

IndenturedServant

Give me one good reason why I should give a shit about either side.

I believe Israel to be a stealth enemy of my country Zara! The fuckers take the fruits of my labor in the form of taxes that get gifted to them to fund their agenda. Fuck them! What about MY fucking agenda?

You may be right about me not being human. I sure as fuck don’t feel human nor am I proud of humans. We are a plague on this planet.

As to your 1:55 comment, I tend to agree. I’ve long thought that humans were never meant to live in large groups. A tribal situation with groups of about 300 or so that live within their means seems ideal to me. It would not make conflict and war less likely but it would not affect every other tribe on the planet if the Palestinian and Israeli tribes decided to smoke each other. As a matter of fact, my tribe might reap the spoils when they do. As it is now, we all lose regardless of who “wins”.

IndenturedServant

Why should I give a shit about Palestinians or anyone else not having electricity? Far more humans have lived their entire lives on Earth with no knowledge whatsoever of electricity and we still managed to get this far. Electricity does not seem to be essential to the human equation.

Stucky

“I am thinking about writing an article titled “The No State Solution”. ———- Zara

I would STRONGLY encourage you to do so, please. Whether people will agree or disagree (I fully expect epic shit fests), I KNOW it will be chock full of info for both sides to think about.

Just do it.

IndenturedServant

Zara, there’s a headline over on Drudge that says Hamas claims to have 3000 elite soldiers ready to die in suicide attacks. I wonder if suicide bombers will be more accurate in finding only military targets than their rockets are? It seems we’ve been down this road in the past and the answer was no. I’m sure Hamas is only looking for military targets in 2014.

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