MIDDLE EAST PROGRESS

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Posted on 31st July 2014 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

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“Facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored.” - Aldous Huxley

Could someone post the videos of the carnage being inflicted upon Israel by those Hamas rocket strikes? I must be looking in the wrong place.

The moment an Israeli bomb smashes a Gaza market is caught on camera by an independent Palestinian television company. The Israeli strike targeted the outskirts of the Shujayea district, during a humanitarian window. 17 people were killed and more than 200 wounded.

At least 15 Palestinians, including a journalist and two paramedics, were killed when Israeli airstrikes hit a busy market place in Gaza. The shopping area was busy because Israel’s 4-hour humanitarian ceasefire was supposed to have been in force. Israel’s four week bombardment has claimed more than 1300 Palestinian lives, the majority were civilians.

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  1. Steve Hogan says:

    Whatever one’s view of the messy Israel/Palestine conflict, one thing is undeniable: the families of these victims have very long memories.

    I would be very nervous if I were an Israeli, especially those in the settlements. The longer Israel waits to negotiate a long-term agreement, the more intense the hatred by Arabs and Muslims.

    31st July 2014 at 1:10 pm

  2. Stucky says:

    “Could someone post the videos of the carnage being inflicted upon Israel by those Hamas rocket strikes? I must be looking in the wrong place.” ———– Admin

    It’s not about “looking”, it’s about understanding. And you don’t understand shit.

    —- You don’t understand that it’s not about results, it’s about INTENT. If your Section 8 neighbor points a gun at you, do you wait to act until after the resulting gun shot? No! You take preventative action.

    —- You don’t understand that Israel has the right to do ANYTHING to protect itself.

    —- You don’t understand that Mooslims are subhuman and they hate their kids.

    —- You don’t understand that all this would stop if Hamas would simply stop firing off rockets. It’s 100% their fault.

    Don’t feel bad about being a dumb-ass. I was one also. But, yesterday, llpoh helped me see the light. Halleluiah. Please read his posts. Then go to CNN. There you will see dozens of various Jewish leaders telling us how peace-loving they are at heart … that every civilian death causes them great sorrow. They can’t all be lying. Do all this and you will be a smarter person.

    31st July 2014 at 1:11 pm

  3. T4C says:

    If you can find a clip of Pierre Krahenbuhl, Commissioner General of UN Relief & Works Agency addressing a UN meeting via phone, listen to it.

    31st July 2014 at 1:29 pm

  4. Dutchman says:

    I thought suicide bombers showed the insanity of the Islamists. However, the tunnels demostrate the absolute insanity of these ‘Sand Niggers’.

    It would be one thing to dig a tunnel – but to excavate 20 – 30 tunnels – some 2 kilometers long – by hand – and then concrete reinforcement – these people are absolutely insane.

    I say bomb them back to 1100 AD, from whence they came!

    31st July 2014 at 4:40 pm

  5. Stucky says:

    Dutchman

    Yours is the voice of reason in an insane world.

    Please post moar Wisdom.

    31st July 2014 at 4:46 pm

  6. Kill Bill says:

    Dutch, tunnels like this exist along the Texas/Mexican border.

    It’s not about religion but a way to transfer goods, be they produce, clothes, meth, pot or cocaine.

    31st July 2014 at 4:53 pm

  7. Thinker says:

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    31st July 2014 at 6:02 pm

  8. Administrator says:

    “Scorched Earth”: How Israel Converted 40% Of Gaza Into A Wasteland Of Rubble

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/31/2014 19:44 -0400

    Moments ago, after weeks of relentless humiliation for John Kerry, Israel and Hamas agreed to yet another 72 hour ceasefire – one which if the previous “ceasefires” are any indication, will be broken within hours if not minutes. Regardless, Kerry, who cobbled this agreement after much “hard work” alongside the UN’s Ban Ki-moon, was ecstatic: “We urge all parties to act with restraint until this humanitarian ceasefire begins, and to fully abide by their commitments during the ceasefire,” Kerry and Ban said. “This ceasefire is critical to giving innocent civilians a much-needed reprieve from violence.”

    What Kerry did not say is that the ceasefire is merely an extended occupation by the IDF: as Reuters reported, the ceasefire statement said “forces on the ground will remain in place” during the truce, implying that Israeli ground forces will not withdraw. Which also assures that it is only a matter of time before yet another stray rocket is launched into Israeli fields, before the IDF retaliates by blowing up another school or hospital allegedly housing Hamas rockets, and so on.

    However, while this too ceasefire will come and go, something far more insidious is taking place in Gaza : as the Daily Beast reports, “The Israeli military, relentlessly and methodically, is driving people out of the 3-kilometer (1.8 mile) buffer zone it says it needs to protect against Hamas rockets and tunnels. According to the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, the buffer zone eats up about 44 percent of Gaza’s territory.”

    To be sure, Israel has been quite clear about its intentions and has given Gazans plenty of advance notice:

    It’s not like Israel didn’t plan this. It told tens of thousands of Palestinians to flee so its air force, artillery and tanks could create this uninhabitable no-man’s land of half-standing, burned-out buildings, broken concrete and twisted metal. During a brief humanitarian ceasefire some Gazans were able to come back to get their first glimpse of the destruction this war has brought to their communities, and to sift through their demolished homes to gather clothes or other scattered bits of their past lives. But many were not even able to do that.

    They will have a chance to do so again for the next three days, or whenever the ceasefire is broken again which will come first.

    In the meantime, constant shelling and bombing have converted nearly half of Gaza into a inhospitable wasteland:

    What that means on the ground is scenes of extraordinary devastation in places like the Al Shajaya district approaching Gaza’s eastern frontier, and Beit Hanoun in the north. These were crowded neighborhoods less than three weeks ago. Now they have been literally depopulated, the residents joining more than 160,000 internally displaced people in refuges and makeshift shelters. Apartment blocks are fields of rubble, and as I move through this hostile landscape the phrase that keeps ringing in my head is “scorched earth.”

    The author of the original article reflects on a world that may as well have emerged from a TS Eliot poem:

    In Beit Hanoun the systematic destruction mirrors Al Shajaya. I walk past old men and teenagers trying to lift cinderblocks and slabs of stucco with their bare hands, sometimes in search of a mattress and other times in search of a relative.

    The desert of demolition only becomes more vast as I get closer to the Israeli border. Individually razed homes and stores give way to gray and white plains of obliterated walls with hills of contorted iron bars and broken-up slabs. Here the bodies are hidden under the new landscape and it will take more than a brief pause in fighting to unearth the gruesome extent of the town’s suffering.

    “Scorched earth,” historically, means destroying land to deprive the encroaching enemy of its use. Israelis shy away from using the phrase to describe what they are doing because, in Israel, it brings to mind the strategy of the Nazi retreat from Russia at the end of the Second World War.

    For Israel, there is a perverse strategy in leveling everything in their path: the practice of systematically flattening neighborhoods is focused on saving the lives of Israeli soldiers, who might otherwise be more exposed to hit-and-run attacks. “Israel is more sensitive than any other country in the West to the death of its soldiers,” says Hebrew University political scientist Yaron Ezrahi “The death of [Palestinian] civilians is a moral crisis but is without political impact.”

    Precisely. And yet the ordinary [Palestinian] civilians, those who have never fired a gun in their lives, lives which sadly have zero “political impact” this is a tragedy beyond words:

    When Rania Haels got within 60 feet of the debris that was once her family home in Al Shajaya on Saturday, a machine-gun on top of a nearby Israeli Merkava tank started firing. Probably these were warning shots pumped in her direction, but the 42-year-old mother of seven ran for her life. Now she stays with her family in an overcrowded parking garage in Gaza City and spends her days sitting in a public park full of refugees displaced by the Israeli push.

    “We lost our homes and so now we live in the streets,” said Haels, holding a toddler in her arms who clings to her pastel-patterned hejab. “This war has destroyed me.” She says at least she knew where her home was. Some of her neighbors could not find their homes as they walked down streets made unrecognizable by the wreckage and horrifying by the presence of death.

    Rashid al Delo and his 11 children were, like Haels, blocked by Israeli machine-gun fire when they tried to return to their home near the bombed-out Wafa Hospital in Al Shajaya. But despite the dire reality, al Delo, who used to work in Israel but has been unemployed these last 15 years, is determined to salvage his life.

    At least they are not dead. However, with every passing day the probability of their survival declines. What is most tragic, however, is that regardless of who is to blame for the ongoing war which is merely the culmination of a middle-east conflict that has continued for thousands of years and whose origins are lost in the sands of time, the international community, so vocal when it comes to the pretense of humanitarian intervention in any other part of the world, is so remarkably incapable to do anything for the ordinary Palestinians who face not only the obliteration of their homes but systematic eradication. All the while the world screams but does nothing.

    Why? So that a few rich men can promote their military interests and get even richer: a reason as old as the world itself.

    31st July 2014 at 8:28 pm

  9. Llpoh says:

    These same folks that are now homeless elected Hamas as their government, and stand idly by while Hamas uses civilians as human shields.

    The whole thing is a clusterfuck.

    31st July 2014 at 8:42 pm

  10. Olga says:

    James Howard Kuntsler is fond of describing “tragic” as the Greek tragedies of times past when a person/family/culture/society make a very bad choice and are then required to live with the consequences.

    At some point the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe decided that returning to Jerusalem – a place their ancestors were run out of centuries before – was a good idea. Never mind that there were Semitic Jews that had never left and were still scattered all over the ME – the long removed European Jews decided the old testament was a real estate contract, they convinced themselves [and others] that the lightly populated region – as compared to Europe – was actually empty – and off the Zionists went.

    And after awhile they decided they needed more real estate and the State of Israel grew settlement after settlement after settlement – all of which they were able to hang on to militarily due to the financial and military aid received from the USA.

    Now add to the mix that all this paradoxically coincides with the realization that the West’s entire life-style DEMANDS cheap oil – and the plentiful oil found throughout the ME was the epitome of cheap and now there is another dot worth connecting.

    Perhaps America needed a base of operations to maintain the chaos required to play one group off another to keep the cheap oil flowing?

    The entire history of Israel reeks of tragedy, greed and short-sightedness – and the consequences suck.

    Our National addiction to cheap oil has made us identical to any heroin-addicted thief or whore, junkie or dealer – not something I imagine our founding fathers imagined and certainly lacking the integrity I desire.

    I am tired of being Israel’s bitch, I’m tired of being addicted to cheap oil and I’m tired of financially underpinning a very tragic set of choices.

    31st July 2014 at 9:06 pm

  11. Rise Up says:

    Clif High at halfpasthuman.com said his web bots “predicted” a “Israeli Mistake”. Maybe this is it.
    Many of his internet word search algorithm predictions don’t materialize, but sometimes he nails it (9/11 being the biggie). Also sometimes the forecasted event happens but much later, sometimes years later.

    I don’t know enough about the long history of this conflict to take a particular side, but Hamas is definitely a terrorist outfit from what I see. I suppose they say the same of the IDF. Pervasive conflicts among various factions throughout the middle east are twisted like a pretzel.

    War is hell.

    31st July 2014 at 9:51 pm

  12. Stucky says:

    “The whole thing is a clusterfuck.” ——–Llpoh

    On that we agree 110%.

    31st July 2014 at 10:26 pm

  13. Stucky says:

    “I am tired of being Israel’s bitch,…” ———-Olga

    Patience, grasshopper.

    Israel dies the day USA!USA!USA! dies.

    31st July 2014 at 10:29 pm

  14. steve says:

    Hey , to admin and the other Palestine ” biatches”…… Quit posting quasi-naieve , sarcastic ramblings on how unfair it is how the ghetto gazans are getting their asses handed to them. It kinda makes you look dumb ( and we know you’re highly intelligent…. At least in admins’ case) or like you’re rooting the losing on ON PURPOSE, knowing damn well the joos are a 45 pound Bobcat toying with a 4 ounce field mouse. Its not ever going to be a close fight. You’d think seeing your friends and family members blown to bits and bleeding to death under piles of desert concrete would cause one to think logically about negotiations in good faith to have an agreement for long term peace in living side by side with Israel. But Hamas /plo/ whatever the hell they’re calling themselves these days are nut jobs….. Islamist nut jobs. And guess what…… They were democratically elected/selected by a majority of those poor helpless peace-loving refugee/Palestinians….. They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind and wonder why!
    There are no “civilian” Palestinians…. They are all willing co-sponsors and fellow terrorist laborers in the centuries old attack of world vs. GOD. Like it or not, Israel is GOD’S chosen nation and mooslims hate The ONE TRUE KING… And anyone allying with God is now and will always be a target of their soul-killing eternal hatred.
    Even if the joos wipe Gaza clean of the cancer they have allowed to settle and grow there for years, it will not be over.
    Those reading my words who know how this all ends know of what I speak.
    I don’t rejoice in suffering.
    What I see in that video is justice…..

    31st July 2014 at 10:31 pm

  15. Stucky says:

    Steve

    You should consider running for Prime Minister of Israel. Just let “FUCK PALESTINIANS!” be your campaign motto and you’ll do just great.

    Jehobah is on your side, fer sure.

    Shalom.

    31st July 2014 at 10:37 pm

  16. IndenturedServant says:

    Admin, move yourself and your family to Israel in range of those Hamas rockets. I suspect you’ll begin to form some very sharp mental pictures of the “carnage” you’re looking for. If you’re lucky, or unlucky as the case may be, a few might get through the defenses and provide you with opportunities to take actual pictures and video of the carnage.

    31st July 2014 at 10:42 pm

  17. Llpoh says:

    IS – having pissed the Admin off many times, I know what buttons work on him.

    I think your last post pushed just about all of them.

    Enjoy the experience!

    31st July 2014 at 10:47 pm

  18. IndenturedServant says:

    I’m not trying to push buttons….just trying to help him find the images he’s looking for!

    31st July 2014 at 11:02 pm

  19. Llpoh says:

    IS – I notice you waited until he was asleep to post that. That was either very smart or quite, how shall I say it, cowardly. Lets go with smart.

    If you really want to steam him up also call into question Ron Paul’s ethics. He loves that.

    31st July 2014 at 11:12 pm

  20. IndenturedServant says:

    What can I say? I took the day off so normally I’d be at work where I read but don’t post. Instead I was out touring almost two dozen breweries in my area. I just got home and noticed his call for help and being the helpful type I responded. I’ll probably still be up when he wakes up but my bedtime is 3-5am west coast so we might miss each other.

    Admins tough. I’m sure he’ll accept it in the helpful manner it was intended!

    31st July 2014 at 11:21 pm

  21. IndenturedServant says:

    I’m sure Ron Paul has impeccable ethics but he’s about as effective as Baghdad Bob!

    31st July 2014 at 11:27 pm

  22. Zarathustra says:

    IndenturedServant says:

    Admin, move yourself and your family to Israel in range of those Hamas rockets.
    ___________________________________

    Give Hamas more advances weapons then so they can just target the Israeli military.

    31st July 2014 at 11:42 pm

  23. Zarathustra says:

    Llpoh says:

    These same folks that are now homeless elected Hamas as their government, and stand idly by while Hamas uses civilians as human shields.

    The whole thing is a clusterfuck.
    ___________________________________-

    I have read that the Israeli soldiers are tying palestinian children to the hoods of their vehicles.

    31st July 2014 at 11:44 pm

  24. IndenturedServant says:

    Zara said:
    “Give Hamas more advances weapons then so they can just target the Israeli military.”

    If you believe that would really happen then you are surpassing some bb level stupidty right there!

    1st August 2014 at 12:03 am

  25. Zarathustra says:

    ndenturedServant says:

    Zara said:
    “Give Hamas more advances weapons then so they can just target the Israeli military.”

    If you believe that would really happen then you are surpassing some bb level stupidty right there!
    ______________________________-

    Maybe in your poisoned mind. They use what they have. I say give them the means to defend themselves, if they still target civilians indescrimately then you can blame them but not until then.

    Can you seriously defend the blockade of Gaza by Israel or the bombing of their only electrical power plant? The Israelis are the real terrorists and any educated and disinterested person can see that.

    1st August 2014 at 12:08 am

  26. IndenturedServant says:

    So why doesn’t Hamas only target the patrols and checkpoints? Why do they target densely populated cites? You might be right, give them better weapons and lets see who they target. My money is on “any dead Jew is a good Jew” as their targeting strategy.

    I don’t give two shits about any of them to be honest. If 2000+ years of ongoing conflict has not been sorted out by now then it never will.

    Israel has every right to defend themselves from indiscriminate weapons fire and if Hamas insists on launching rockets from schools etc where they also stockpile weapons and then defend those locations with women and children………they should not be the slightest bit surprised when their human shields fail to stop the carnage. It’s all bullshit and they deserve each other.

    I will defend the bombing of their only electric plant. Not because I give a shit about any of it but because maybe if they had to spend a little more time living life without the convenience of electricity, maybe they’d have less time to acquire and launch rockets. Actually I can’t defend that because that would be equivalent to believing that giving more accurate weapons to Hamas would mean they’d only target the military! LOL!

    I would be in favor of reducing the Jews and muslims to about two dozen breeding pairs each and see if the fucking savages might be able to focus on something else for awhile.

    1st August 2014 at 1:41 am

  27. Zarathustra says:

    IndenturedServant says:

    So why doesn’t Hamas only target the patrols and checkpoints? Why do they target densely populated cites? You might be right, give them better weapons and lets see who they target. My money is on “any dead Jew is a good Jew” as their targeting strategy.

    I don’t give two shits about any of them to be honest. If 2000+ years of ongoing conflict has not been sorted out by now then it never will.

    Israel has every right to defend themselves from indiscriminate weapons fire and if Hamas insists on launching rockets from schools etc where they also stockpile weapons and then defend those locations with women and children………they should not be the slightest bit surprised when their human shields fail to stop the carnage. It’s all bullshit and they deserve each other.

    I will defend the bombing of their only electric plant. Not because I give a shit about any of it but because maybe if they had to spend a little more time living life without the convenience of electricity, maybe they’d have less time to acquire and launch rockets. Actually I can’t defend that because that would be equivalent to believing that giving more accurate weapons to Hamas would mean they’d only target the military! LOL!

    I would be in favor of reducing the Jews and muslims to about two dozen breeding pairs each and see if the fucking savages might be able to focus on something else for awhile
    __________________________________

    I am thinking about writing an article titled “The No State Solution.” Why? Because the two state solution is a fantasy; there is no such thing as Palestine anymore and there is no way you could evict the 700,000 Israeli settlers from the west bank. The whole ridiculous sideshow about an Iranian nuclear weapons program is just a ruse to deflect the worlds attention from what Israel is doing in the West Bank and Gaza.

    Likewise the one state solution won’t work either because the Zionists would never accept it, since it would mean the end of zionism. Evicting the four million Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank is also a fantasy, so what’s left is the one answer that makes sense. No central government. No Israel, No Palestine, just individual communities who either have to find a way to cooperate with each other or just kill each other until there is nobody with hate left. What is today called Israel could become the world’s first anarcho-capitalist country.

    Who is going to invade that place anyway? Israel/Palestine doesnt need need a standing army, it needs no atomic bombs, submarines or tanks. They could form voluntary militias to fend off ISIS if necessary.

    Until then, I maintain my belief that Israell is the No 1. terrorist, rogue state in the world and until it is disarmed and destroyed, nobody in the world is safe, as it has proven time and time again that it is utterly ruthless.

    1st August 2014 at 1:55 am

  28. Zarathustra says:

    IndenturedServant says:

    I will defend the bombing of their only electric plant. Not because I give a shit about any of it but because maybe if they had to spend a little more time living life without the convenience of electricity, maybe they’d have less time to acquire and launch rockets.
    _______________________-

    Okay you have convinced me. Either you are an Israel-firster e.g traitor, or you are simply not human.

    1st August 2014 at 2:01 am

  29. IndenturedServant says:

    Give me one good reason why I should give a shit about either side.

    I believe Israel to be a stealth enemy of my country Zara! The fuckers take the fruits of my labor in the form of taxes that get gifted to them to fund their agenda. Fuck them! What about MY fucking agenda?

    You may be right about me not being human. I sure as fuck don’t feel human nor am I proud of humans. We are a plague on this planet.

    As to your 1:55 comment, I tend to agree. I’ve long thought that humans were never meant to live in large groups. A tribal situation with groups of about 300 or so that live within their means seems ideal to me. It would not make conflict and war less likely but it would not affect every other tribe on the planet if the Palestinian and Israeli tribes decided to smoke each other. As a matter of fact, my tribe might reap the spoils when they do. As it is now, we all lose regardless of who “wins”.

    1st August 2014 at 3:21 am

  30. IndenturedServant says:

    Why should I give a shit about Palestinians or anyone else not having electricity? Far more humans have lived their entire lives on Earth with no knowledge whatsoever of electricity and we still managed to get this far. Electricity does not seem to be essential to the human equation.

    1st August 2014 at 3:25 am

  31. Stucky says:

    “I am thinking about writing an article titled “The No State Solution”. ———- Zara

    I would STRONGLY encourage you to do so, please. Whether people will agree or disagree (I fully expect epic shit fests), I KNOW it will be chock full of info for both sides to think about.

    Just do it.

    1st August 2014 at 9:08 am

  32. IndenturedServant says:

    Zara, there’s a headline over on Drudge that says Hamas claims to have 3000 elite soldiers ready to die in suicide attacks. I wonder if suicide bombers will be more accurate in finding only military targets than their rockets are? It seems we’ve been down this road in the past and the answer was no. I’m sure Hamas is only looking for military targets in 2014.

    1st August 2014 at 3:49 pm

  33. Administrator says:

    “Genocide Is Permissible” Muses Times Of Israel, Promptly Retracts

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 08/01/2014 15:51 -0400

    The Times Of Israel has removed a provocatively-titled blog post after huge blowback, denunciations, and ridicule across social media. The post – “When Genocide Is Permissible” (in full below) – concludes, “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?” Removal or not, we are sure this will do nothing to endear Israel to the world.

    The Times Of Israel site Before and After…

    20140801_times_0.jpg

    h/t @PrisonPlanet

    And thanks to The Way-Back Machine, here is the full article…

    When Genocide Is Permissible (authored by Yochanan Gordon)

    Judging by the numbers of casualties on both sides in this almost one-month old war one would be led to the conclusion that Israel has resorted to disproportionate means in fighting a far less- capable enemy. That is as far as what meets the eye. But, it’s now obvious that the US and the UN are completely out of touch with the nature of this foe and are therefore not qualified to dictate or enforce the rules of this war – because when it comes to terror there is much more than meets the eye.

    I wasn’t aware of this, but it seems that the nature of warfare has undergone a major shift over the years. Where wars were usually waged to defeat the opposing side, today it seems – and judging by the number of foul calls it would indicate – that today’s wars are fought to a draw. I mean, whoever heard of a timeout in war? An NBA Basketball game allows six timeouts for each team during the course of a game, but last I checked this is a war! We are at war with an enemy whose charter calls for the annihilation of our people. Nothing, then, can be considered disproportionate when we are fighting for our very right to live.

    The sad reality is that Israel gets it, but its hands are being tied by world leaders who over the past six years have insisted they are such good friends with the Jewish state, that they know more regarding its interests than even they do. But there’s going to have to come a time where Israel feels threatened enough where it has no other choice but to defy international warnings – because this is life or death.

    Most of the reports coming from Gazan officials and leaders since the start of this operation have been either largely exaggerated or patently false. The truth is, it’s not their fault, falsehood and deceit is part of the very fabric of who they are and that will never change. Still however, despite their propensity to lie, when your enemy tells you that they are bent on your destruction you believe them. Similarly, when Khaled Meshal declares that no physical damage to Gaza will dampen their morale or weaken their resolve – they have to be believed. Our sage Gedalia the son of Achikam was given intelligence that Yishmael Ben Nesanyah was plotting to kill him. However, in his piety or rather naiveté Gedalia dismissed the report as a random act of gossip and paid no attention to it. To this day, the day following Rosh Hashana is commemorated as a fast day in the memory of Gedalia who was killed in cold blood on the second day of Rosh Hashana during the meal. They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over. History is there to teach us lessons and the lesson here is that when your enemy swears to destroy you – you take him seriously.

    Hamas has stated forthrightly that it idealizes death as much as Israel celebrates life. What other way then is there to deal with an enemy of this nature other than obliterate them completely?

    News anchors such as those from CNN, BBC and Al-Jazeera have not missed an opportunity to point out the majority of innocent civilians who have lost their lives as a result of this war. But anyone who lives with rocket launchers installed or terror tunnels burrowed in or around the vicinity of their home cannot be considered an innocent civilian. If you’ll counter, that Hamas has been seen abusing civilians who have attempted to leave their homes in response to Israeli warnings to leave – well then, your beginning to come to terms with the nature of this enemy which should automatically cause the rules of standard warfare to be suspended.

    Everyone agrees that Israel has the right to defend itself as well as the right to exercise that right. Secretary General Ban Ki Moon has declared it, Obama and Kerry have clearly stated that no one could be expected to sit idle as thousands of rockets rain down on the heads of its citizens, placing them in clear and present danger. It seems then that the only point of contention is regarding the measure of punishment meted out in this situation.

    I will conclude with a question for all the humanitarians out there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?

    1st August 2014 at 3:54 pm

  34. T4C says:

    Update on post @ 15:54

    The author just apologized…

    I wish to express deep regret and beg forgiveness for an article I authored which was posted on 5TJT.com, Times of Israel and was tweeted and shared the world over.

    I never intended to call to harm any people although my words may have conveyed that message.

    With that said I pray and hope for a quick peaceful end to the hostilities and that all people learn to coexist with each other in creating a better world for us all.

    Yochanan Gordon

    *****

    Well that’s ok then…

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-01/genocide-permissible-muses-times-israel-promptly-retracts

    Interesting analogy by a ZH commenter:

    What Israel is doing would be akin to someone with a CCW shooting a guy in a wheelchair who is totally paralyzed just because he said he wishes he could kill you.

    What Israel is doing would be akin to someone with a CCW shooting a guy in a wheelchair who is totally paralyzed just because he said he wishes he could kill you.

    1st August 2014 at 5:18 pm

  35. T4C says:

    oops…don’t know how the ZH comment posted twice.

    1st August 2014 at 5:19 pm

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