Originally posted at Dispatches from Reality, by Scipio Eruditus. dfreality.substack.com
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The nature of the Kingdom of God and timing of the Millenium is one of monumental importance to the Gospel message. It is one that is prominent, if not central, to the Gospel preaching of John the Baptist, Peter, Paul, Stephen, and most significantly, Jesus Christ. To not understand this issue is to not understand the kingship of Christ, His reign over the nations, and His eternal dominion. Unfortunately, this too is an issue which the modern Church has largely departed from their historic and Biblical roots on.
Amongst the many enigmatic passages of The Revelation of Jesus Christ (or Apocalypsis), Chapter 20 has sparked more debate than perhaps any other throughout the last two millennia of Christian theology. The interpretation of this period and its symbolic or literal nature has evolved significantly over time, with early Christian interpretations of the Millennium varying. Some notable early Church fathers, such as Justin Martyr and Irenaeus, held a premillennial view, anticipating a literal reign of Christ on Earth. The timing indicators given throughout Revelation — such as chapter 1, verse 1 (“things which must shortly come to pass”), or verse 3 (“the time is at hand”) — made this interpretative framework increasingly untenable as that physical Kingdom did not materialize in the centuries following Pentecost.
As time wore on and Christians reconsidered their notion of what the Kingdom of God entailed, premillennial eschatology largely died out within Christian thought. Titans such as Origen and Augustine helped cement a spreading theological realization amongst Christendom, primarily viewing the Millennium in a spiritual context. The thousand years were viewed symbolically, a precedent we see in Psalm 50:10, one that is universally understood to simply represent a large amount and not a literal thousand hills. Instead, the Millennium, and therefore the Kingdom, began to represent the present age of Christ’s spiritual reign and victory over death. In this eschatological framework, the binding of Satan (alluded to in Mark 3:23-27) is represented through the preaching of The Gospel.
This perspective was termed amillennialism by its detractors (literally meaning no millennium), a viewpoint which largely gained its predominance in the post-Nicaean era. Other views, such as postmillennialism or historicism, saw surges in popularity in the post-Reformation era. In the beginnings of the 19th century, premillennialism was revivified — primarily through the dispensationalist heresy popularized by John Nelson Darby and Cyrus I. Scofield. (My series of essays on Christian Zionism and dispensationalism, The Wolves Within, explores the genesis and claims of this theology.)
As such, few topics within Christian theology have driven as much discussion or had as much ink devoted to them as the timing of the Millennium, and therefore, the Kingdom of Christ. Despite this, the only chapter in the entirety of the Holy Bible which explicitly discusses this one-thousand year time period is Revelation 20. At the heart of this chapter lies the concept of the “Millennium”: in much of the prevailing eschatology of our era, we are told this will be a literal thousand-year period before the end of time in which Satan is bound and Christ will rule a physical, Earthly kingdom seated upon the physical Throne of David.
The only verses which specifically mentions the thousand years in relation to Christ are verse 4 and 6 (all emphasis below is mine):
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years…
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
— Apocalypsis 20:4, 6 KJV
In fact, most of the references to the thousand years refer to Satan’s binding, not the kingdom. While this time period is often erroneously referred to as the “Millennial” reign of Christ, verse 4 and 6 instead state it is the saints which will reign for a thousand years “with Christ”.
Quite frankly, the idea of a “Millenial” (and therefore finite) reign of Christ is not only erroneous by modern expositors, it is damnable heresy. Numerous Messianic prophecies, such as Isaiah’s, explicitly state that Christ’s kingdom is one which will last “for ever”:
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
— The Book of Isaiah 9:6-7 KJV
This is affirmed by the Prophet Daniel as well:
34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces….
44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
— The Book of Daniel 2:34, 44 KJV
That stone that is cut without hands, the stone which became the head cornerstone, the foundation of a Kingdom without end: that stone is Christ:
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
— The Gospel of Matthew 21:42-44 KJV
Indeed, in order to understand the Millennium, one must first understand the true nature of the Kingdom of God.
“17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and JOY in the Holy Ghost.”
— Epistle to the Romans 14:17 KJV
Throughout the ministry of Christ, His preaching and parables centered around this coming kingdom:
35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.
— The Gospel of Matthew 9:35 KJV
This message of repentance and faith is seen in throughout the four Gospel narratives, sometimes simply being called “the gospel” (Matthew 11:5). This is the same Gospel mentioned by Christ in Matthew 24:14 that must be preached to “all the nations” of the Roman Empire before the destruction of Jerusalem was to come.
The timing and nature of the Kingdom is something that Christ preached on significantly. The timing of His kingdom is continually spoken of in an imminent tone, for instance:
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
— The Gospel of Matthew 10:7 KJV
The Greek word for “at hand” also denotes something incipient or near:
- G1448 eggizó: to make near, refl. to come nearOriginal Word: ἐγγίζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: eggizó
Phonetic Spelling: (eng-id’-zo)
Definition: to make near, to come near
Usage: trans: I bring near; intrans: I come near, approach.
Later in the Gospel narrative, we are explicitly told that this kingdom “cometh not with observation”:
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
— The Gospel of Luke 17:20-21 KJV
The Kingdom of God is not a physical kingdom, but one which we must be “born again” in the Spirit in order to enter into (John 3:3-5). Amongst the scarce words spoken by Jesus at His trial, Christ explicitly states His kingdom was “not of this world”:
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
— The Gospel of John 18:36 KJV
The descriptions of this coming Kingdom throughout the New Testament are consistently ones’ of a spiritual and internal nature, not a carnal one.
Furthermore, Christ tells His Apostles that some of them will see “the son of man” and His kingdom before they “taste of death”:
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
— The Gospel of Matthew 16:27-28 KJV
1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
— The Gospel of Mark 9:1 KJV
27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
— The Gospel of Luke 9:27 KJV
The significance of this proclamation and its repetition in triplicate is something that should give any serious student of Scripture pause; clearly something of great import is being communicated by the Holy Spirit here. Take note of the phrase “son of man”, a term which appears over 80 times in the New Testament and which Christ uses to allude to the Messianic prophecies concerning Himself by the Prophet Daniel. Even more explicitly, we are told the following by Christ:
28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
— The Gospel of Matthew 12:28 KJV
This statement is echoed in Luke’s account as well (Luke 11:20).
Throughout the New Testament, its divinely inspired writers routinely use language in which the Kingdom is referred to in a present light, for example:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
— Epistle to the Colossians 1:13 KJV
Paul’s language here is one that is past tense, for to be translated into something must necessarily mean that thing is in existence. The Apostle John on Patmos says as much in the opening chapter of Revelation:
9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ
— Apocalypsis 1:9 KJV
John states he is in the kingdom of Jesus Christ, a statement which clearly contradicts the idea of an unrealized kingdom, or one in which Christ is not reigning.
As someone who was taught and had only ever considered this time period in a future light growing up, it is verses like these that slowly started opening my eyes to the realization that Christ’s eternal reign has now been realized.
After the Crucifixion, Christ states that the rulers of Israel shall see Him “on the right hand of power” (Mark 14:62), i.e. seated at the right hand of the Father:
64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
— The Gospel of Matthew 26:64 KJV
It is no less than the Apostle Peter who directly ties Christ’s placement on David’s throne with His Resurrection:
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
— Acts of the Apostles 2:29-36 KJV
The prophecy of the Messiah inheriting the throne of David is seen throughout the Bible (Psalms 132:11, Psalm 89:3-4, II Samuel 7:12-13, Luke 1:31-32), many of which are clearly tied into the concept of this eternal Kingdom. In Mark 11:10, this is recognized by the crowd at Jerusalem, who fete Christ upon his coronal precession and celebrate the coming of “the kingdom of our father David”.
Directly preceding the martyrdom of Stephen by the Judeans, he too attests to Christ’s place at the right hand of God:
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
— Acts of the Apostles 7:55-56 KJV
The term “the son of man” is a phrase used by Daniel in his prophecies of the coming Messianic kingdom. Stephen’s divinely inspired vision, one where he is so filled with the Holy Ghost that he is said to appear like an angel (Acts 6:15), is one which nearly perfectly aligns with Daniel’s prophetic utterances concerning that same Son of Man:
13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
— Book of Daniel 7:13-14 KJV
Through the pen of John, Christ issues the final clarification on this matter in Scripture, stating that His place is upon His Father’s throne:
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
— Apocalypsis 3:21 KJV
I will note once again that the regency of Christ is inescapably tied into His Crucifixion and Resurrection, themes which we will see repeated in John’s vision.
“1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things ABOVE, not on things on the earth.”
— Epistle to the Colossians 3:1-2 KJV
One of the particular hang ups of futurist expositors is their dogged insistence that Scripture tells us the Throne of David will be a literal, physical throne reigning over the rebuilt, physical Kingdom of Israel. We are confidently told that David’s throne and the LORD’s throne are different things, yet Holy Scripture interchangeably refers to the Throne of David (I Kings 2:12) as the Throne of the Lord (I Chronicles 29:23). Samuel also prophesied that David shall “sleep with thy fathers” while the Kingdom of this promised seed will be established “for ever” (II Samuel 7:12-16). It is impossible for this to occur during a future Millenium, since David will not be physically dead during an earthly Millenium. That tabernacle which the LORD pitched, the Tabernacle of David (Amos 9:11) is not the Davidic Kingdom — according to the Apostle James, it is the Church (Acts 15:13-18).
These are hardly the only Scriptural hurdles facing a futurist interpretation of a physical and future kingdom. Additionally, Jeremiah the Prophet tells us that “no man of [Jeconiah’s] seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.” (Jeremiah 22:28-30). This poses a serious problem for those who hold that the promised throne of David is going to be a physical one for a physical Kingdom, since Christ is a descendant of Jeconiah through Zerubbabel (Luke 3:27, Matthew 1:12). From a logical standpoint alone, if His kingdom were indeed an Earthly one, this definitionally can not be eternal, as the current Heavens and Earth “shall pass away” (II Peter 3:10). It appears rather clear, to me at least, that Scripture expressly precludes the possibility of a physical Davidic throne.
While many futurists, particularly dispensationalists, teach that the Jews rejected Christ as their King, this too contradicts Scripture:
15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.
— The Gospel of John 6:15 KJV
The people were more than willing to make him king of Judea, but we are told He rejected that earthly title — not the other way around. We are also told by the Prophets that Christ will be a priest after the Order of Melchizedek (Psalm 110:4), one who will sit on Throne of the LORD (Zechariah 6:12-13). The author of Hebrews expounds for us why this is impossible if Christ were to reign on Earth:
1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
— Epistle to the Hebrews 8:1-4 KJV
Under the Old Covenant, the office of priest and king were separate responsibilities for separate tribes. Since Christ is not of the tribe of Levi, he could not have been both Israel’s king and high priest under that Old Covenant.
The Judeans did not reject an earthly King during Christ’s ministry, they rejected their Heavenly one.
Part and parcel of this teaching is either an implicit or explicit rejection of Christ’s authority over creation, i.e. Heaven and Earth. Admittedly, Satan is called the little-g “god of this world” by Paul in II Corinthians 4:4, but this has been carried to an extreme in modern Satanology. In much of the Church, we are told that it is Satan that has total authority on Earth, not Christ. I must admit, it was an error I too was deceived by in my early days of writing this publication.
But, Holy Scripture is exceedingly clear on who holds ultimate power on this plane — and it is not the Deceiver:
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
— The Gospel of Matthew 28:18 KJV
I checked the Greek, and yup, all power means all power. As Paul writes to the Church at Ephesus, Christ is far above (both literally and metaphorically) all powers and principalities:
19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
— Epistle to the Ephesians 1:19-23 KJV
This passage heavily pulls from both Psalm 2 and Psalm 110, Messianic Psalms which state that Christ will reign in the midst of His enemies at the right hand of God.
Importantly, in Psalm 2, perhaps one of the most well-known Messianic Psalms, we are told that the Son of God will rule the nations with a rod of iron:
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
— The Book of Psalms 2:6-9 KJV
This is the precise language used by John the Revelator in Revelation 12 as he describes “The War in Heaven”:
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
— Apocalypsis 12:5-10 KJV
The man child being caught up, ruling the nations, and salvation coming with the inception of His kingdom: these are all things Scripture tells us have been fulfilled by Christ upon His Crucifixion.
I find it no small coincidence that John also records for us when Christ states parts of these events occurred:
31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.
— The Gospel of John 12:31-33 KJV
The Crucifixion is clearly tied into the casting out of Satan by none other than Christ. Throughout John’s Gospel account, He refers to “the prince of this world” in reference to the forces of Satan working through the Roman and Judean authorities. We find equally prophetic imagery used by Christ after His disciples come to Him upon casting out demons in His Name:
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
— The Gospel of Luke 10:17-18 KJV
This imagery hearkens back to Isaiah 14, a chapter in which the downfall of Lucifer is prophesied, including this prophetic recitation:
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
— The Book of Isaiah 14:12 KJV
Forever banished from Heaven, no longer does Satan bring railing accusations against the people of God — Christ alone is our sole mediator before the Father (I Timothy 2:5).
“The kingdom is not only beyond our efforts, it is even beyond our VISION.”
— Archbishop Oscar Romero
Like many overeager prophecy students, my first real, personal study of the Bible began with the book of Revelation. Coming from a futurist understanding, it’s inscrutable texts stumped me and I ultimately gave it up in my youth, relegating the book to the unknowable mysteries of God. Throughout the last decade of my intense studies, I began to explore the history of Christian thought on eschatology once again. During this time period, the inexorable link between eschatology and the Kingdom continued to grow ever more apparent to me.
When I first started coming to the realization that the Kingdom of Christ was not a future Jewish kingdom, but rather, a present reality, I was exceedingly tentative in even acknowledging this growing feeling within me. At first I thought I was in error (and some will surely say that is still the case); and yet, like Josiah’s reading of the forgotten scroll of the Law, I could not deny that what I continued to see throughout the New Testament rang true. Everywhere I turned within the Gospels, this kingdom was jumping out at me now. I would come to find out that this belief was hardly outside of the norm of Christian thought; instead, it is the eschatological crazes that have infested the modern Church which are the true aberration in her annals.
As I came to learn, this theological system is called amillennialism, and it’s largely what the Church had taught until Scofield-fueled futurism took hold upon her. Now to be frank, I hate that proponents of this eschatological framework still use that term to describe it, as they (nor I) believe that there is “no millennium”. Additionally, while the conflation between the Millennium and the Kingdom of Christ is understandable, it too fails to truly capture the eternal aspect of His reign.
The prefix aeterno– means never-ending in Latin, and that is why I find the term aeternomillennial better captures the unending & eternal nature of His reign.
In my series of essays on the Judaizing heresy of dispensationalism, The Wolves Within, I thoroughly expose how Satan’s forces worked tirelessly to infiltrate the church, wielding futurism as the firebrand through which they incinerated over a millenia of tradition. Now, not all premillennialists are dispensationalists, and Historic Premillennialism rejects many of the excesses of the latter. But any honest futurist must admit that their eschatology only began its resurgence amidst the pulpits after the advent of Darby.
So my brothers and sisters, I can certainly understand how so many within the flock today have been led astray on a topic of such fundamental import as this — I was once among them. That said, it is simply put, a question which Scripture truly leaves little room for interpretation:
The Kingdom is not yet to come — the Kingdom has come.
For the better part of the last 2,000 years the Church has largely understood that Christ’s kingdom would reign eternal and victorious. Misunderstanding our role in His kingdom, or whether we understand that He is even ruling one at all, carries tremendous implications. Upon my exploration of the issue of the Millennium and the Kingdom of Christ, it is my firm conviction that these aeternomillenial truths have been denigrated, suborned to a misguided vision of a yet unfulfilled Kingdom.
Among them, that our sovereign God, the LORD Jesus Christ, rules ALL the nations of Earth and ALL the principalities of the Heavens; and that Satan, the Accuser, the one time prince of this world, has been cast out of Heaven, having been bound in the Abyss through the name of Jesus Christ and the preaching of His Gospel.
“15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: REPENT ye, and believe the gospel.”
— The Gospel of Mark 1:15 KJV
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I couldn’t agree more. Moving forward, I think I will give this contributor a wide berth. Life is too short. And I know My Lord would rather I engage in more productive activities than arguing with people on a website. Our Lord did instruct us to (at some point) not to engage non-believers relentlessly but to shake ‘their dust from our sandals’. Anyways. Keep the faith.
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I must have missed the verse that said believing in Scofield’s pre-trib rapture is an article of the faith on which one’s salvation rests.
Maybe if you spent more time reading and praying and less time shit talking, you’d have a better grasp of the topic.
If you bothered to read the script to Armageddon, with a critical eye you’d be scared straight from it.
You finally said something representative of your biblical understanding we can all understand.
Catechism of the Catholic Church (usccb.org)
Not true about Revelation 20 being the only verse that speaks of the 1000 year reign.
Hosea 6:1&2 does specifically.
The 3rd day refers specifically to the millennial reign after the 2 days or 2000 years from the crucifixion of Jesus until His second coming.
Yes, the Kingdom of God is everlasting but this current earth is not post millennial reign.
Read Revelation chapter 21.
New heaven and earth and new Jerusalem.
Leaving out facts to attempt proving your case is being dishonest at best.
Do you really believe that God is going to allow this screwed up earth to go on continuously as it is?
Have you ever considered that you may not be tall enough for this ride and need someone to provide a booster seat so you can see over the dashboard ?
Don’t let the metaphors make you retarded, bruh. Seek that booster seat.
Narratives spoon fed to the mentally and spiritually weak never quite take the place of those brave souls who bother to ask the tough questions and work to find true answers. If it were otherwise we could just make our life choices based on best selling name brands. Which is exactly what Abrahamic religion is. Not organic and genuine religion/spirituality. Christianity/Islam/Satanism is the Pepsi Cola/Bud Light/ MacDonald Land of religions. I list these Abrahamic name brands together as they all promise Armageddon and one world government. Which all by itself should scare any Goyim straight from Abrahamic death cults.
You might want to learn to differentiate between the Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenants. They are not the same and do not “go” together.
All Abrahamic script(ure) promises Armageddon and the intentions of the tribe. You might want to consider the source
Flash, with you It’s like dealing directly with the father of lies, the author of confusion and the supreme narcissist in chief satan himself.
I hope you are at least saved.
Have anything but school yard banter and spoon fed narratives? My German Shepherd has more critical thinking talent then you.
Revelation 21 is after the millennial reign of the saints, so I’m not exactly sure what your point is in mentioning that.
While you are free to your interpretation of what days means in Hosea 6, it is disingenuous on your part frankly to assign dishonesty to my decision to not include that verse. I qualified the statement “explicitly mentioned” in my essay for a reason. If you have a verse that explicitly mentions the one thousand years in relation to the reign of Christ or his saints, not your opinion of what a prophetic symbol means, I’d love to see it.
Do you even know what the book of Hosea is about?
It’s a faithful husband signifying God towards an unfaithful wife signifying Israel.
It’s about continuous unfaithfulness and ultimate redemption.
It’s always “the gospel”. Over and over again, the gospel. Can the author tell me what exactly the gospel is?
1 Corinthians 15:1-4. The Bible becomes much clearer with time and diligent study. But only IF, one puts in the effort and has the desire to to learn the Word of God. (Sorry. I’m not the author).
The word of the tribe and the script to Armageddon you mean. The Communist manifesto is their word too.
I see what you did there and will get back to you in the spirit this evening.
Can you not be such a gammabitch special boi ?
gospel (n.)
Old English godspel “glad tidings announced by Jesus; one of the four gospels,” literally “good spell,” from god “good” (see good (adj.)) + spel “story, message” (see spell (n.1)). A translation of Latin bona adnuntiatio, itself a translation of Greek euangelion “reward for bringing good news” (see evangel).
Lemme help reformulate my question flesh… I know “gospel” means good news. What specifically is the good news “the gospel” brings? The question was posed to the esteemed author but it seems he doesn’t know either.
flesh… I like that, it suits you.
”Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.“
Proverbs 26:4-5 KJV
Frankly, your course language and juvenile barbs are totally unbecoming of a supposed man of God, which is I why I generally choose to ignore your comments on my essays. You have shown yourself to be a fool and a deceitful handler of the Word of God, so any discussion with you is sure to be utterly fruitless.
Your question has been answered countless times in my comments and my essays: I Corinthians 15:1-4
Now, heretic, perhaps you can explain to me how you assiduously avoid the Scriptures throughout this essay which refute your insipid ideology, such as the Jews rejecting my Messiah as their earthly king:
John 6:15 (KJV)
“When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.”
Course language? It’s you that attack my character, is it so hard to handle a bit of your own medicine, tough guy?
“You have shown yourself to be a fool and a deceitful handler of the Word of God, so any discussion with you is sure to be utterly fruitless.”
Then why are we talking now?
John 4:22 KJB… “Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.“
Let’s see you figure that out. That’s red letters there boy!
I answer you and your folly lest you think you are wise in your own conceit.
Obtuse as ever. By coarse language, I mean specifically comments like this on March 5, 2024 12:59 pm:
I don’t have to attack your character, your own actions do that enough for me.
“If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.”
— Proverbs 29:9
My apologies if I offended your virgin eyes with a vicious “s” bomb; my poor attempt at TBP humor. You answered nothing. I’ll ask again; what did Jesus mean when He said salvation was of the Jews? Come on now, I’m the heretic, right? Set me straight, this is your chance.
As to the scripture you were afraid to post above…
1 Corinthians 9:16-17 KJB… “For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.“
…attempting to refute the Godly Biblical Pauline doctrine of dispensationalism, I post it here for posterity. The gospel Paul speaks of is that Christ died for our sin and was raised again for our justification. To trust in His finished work IS salvation. You know that, I know that.
So, why did Jesus, well before His crucifixion, in the book of John which you quoted at me, say that salvation is of the Jews? Answer if you can.
Jesus was a Jew. If our salvation is Jesus then it is of the Jews.
The Bible describes and eternity on one’s knees, singing about how great it is to kneel before the Armageddon promising God of Israel. While the self appointed chosen people of the scriptures pray thrusting their hips. While the Goyim are on their knees. What do any of us here think the occult ritual symbology of these practices would be? Why do, any among us, think the Bible forbids understanding such spiritual knowledge?
Jesus said clearly. My kingdom is not of this world. Which the author states. It makes the rest of the article moot as it tries to tell you that Jesus’s kingdom is of this world. You can believe one, but not both.
So you can be meek and inherit the Earth, or bold, courageous, and adventuresome like Jesus, and visit the many mansions Jesus spoke of while living in the flesh. Here is the tool to do the latter. HU links you up to the Holy Spirit.
smh….
Another great post from You tube. Your really on today. He is only mentioned because all Westerners are brainwashed. The term Christ comes from Asia. Christ is a consciousness that is very common in Asia. It is not even a very high consciousness. There are much Higher states of consciousness. But you wouldn’t know about that.
John 14:6 , bruh. Believe it, pagan.
Pure delusion.
https://www.khouse.org/personal_update/articles/1998/why-virgin-birth
Here is the solution for the blood curse on Jeconiah fyi…
Zerubbabel is mentioned in both genealogies, he is descended from the house of Jeconiah on both sides. So no, the virgin birth does not explain this one away.
I don’t know if it’s poor translations but at least one passage in Revelation has in the Greek “thousands years” and the plural is not a mistake. Other passages in the NT preclude premillennialism, but I don’t have time to find them right now.
Christ is KING. Fuck yids
You always post these when I don’t have time to read them and they fall off the front pages by the time I get to them🙁
I have to say I don’t fall on a particular end times theology. Just that Jesus will return when it’s been decided that it’s time. Just because we see a lot of things seeming to line up just means possible chaos then a return to waiting. Or, it could be right around the corner.
Everyone thinks they know how to apply Revelation to current times. I think we know a lot less then we think we do😉
And yet, the Bible instructs all believers to ‘not sleep’ but to be mindful of the times in which they live. To know ‘the seasons’.
Thank you MC, I always appreciate your feedback.
I typically post these for review on Monday night (this week was a snafu on my end), so I’m not sure why they don’t get approved until later either.
I did finally get through it. I think you would like my Pastor, which is why I don’t argue with you. We spent 2 years in Revelation. He believes the Book of John and Revelation mirror each other. It’s quite fascinating and much too long to discuss here. He always hands out transcripts. Many Sundays they were 8 pages long. He’s 80 something and there is no replacing him. He’s writing a book that will be very similar to his sermons. I hope he lives long enough to finish it. Have a pleasant evening, Vet.
If you have some links send them my way sister, I always appreciate good preaching.
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“And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,..”
The lineage through Joseph is immaterial. He married her because she was already “with child”. No indication that Joseph had any reason to be ashamed but wanted to save his betrothed [ engaged ] from shame. Therefore the curse from Luke 3 does not apply.
+1000 Another enlightening essay… queue of the cowardly EvangiBoomerTwoGospelThirdTempleRedHeiferRaptureTards to wade into the truthstream and attempt to obstruct the flow with dams of nonsensical gibberish ripped out of context from scripture they like to pretend they understand. Whether they understand it or not, these heretics are the enemies of Christ. Indeed, they are the tools of Satan and directly responsible for the tribal takeover of our Republic and the genocide happening now in Gaza and the Ukraine.
Good Lord. There’s 100 x more words here than Jesus ever said. Why read this drivel when you can read the Sermon on the Mount and Beatitudes? And what is it with the never ending protestant fascination with Revelations and the heresy of the false apostle, Paul? Their hatred of Catholicism seems to control them. God is not some petty bureaucrat/suburban lawyer tied up with wordplay.
brevity is the soul of wit.
the roman world of the 1st century was the apex of literary accomplishment.
holy hell fire and damnation. that was a heap of thumpin’.
the only problem is that revelation was written by the same roman court which invented jesus in the gospel plays. there isn’t a scintilla of evidence of the historicity of jesus because he in fact is a literary character. the christian edifice is a massive recursive circular reference back to its origins – the flavian bible.
Yup, a completely fictional character for the tards to believe in.
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Hey OP,
Thanks for the effort post. 10/10. Would read again. Mind if I pick your brain? I hope not.
What are your thoughts about theodicy? Can any successful theodicy be given? If so, are there any you think are (or might be) successful/true?
Thanks in advance.
I do believe successful ones have and can be given; C. S. Lewis did admirable work on this subject throughout his life. Regardless of my doctrinal disagreements with him, Lewis’ books are very accessible and what I would most immediately recommend for those grappling with these weighty issues:
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.264598
https://archive.org/details/MereChristianityCSL/mode/1up
Ultimately though the answer to the issue of evil, omnibenevolence, and omnipotence is a matter of faith, not reason. Reason has its utility, but is necessarily limited by the information we have available to us. This is essentially the entire point of the Book of Job, summed up in Job’s statement of confession and repentance: “Then Job answered the Lord, and said, I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee. Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? Therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not. Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear; but now mine eye seeth thee: wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.“
Job 42:1-6
Thank you for this question ST, the problem of evil is an immense topic and certainly one in which I intend to address more fully in my own writings.
Is C.S. Lewis public domain now? Damn, I’m old.
“A sincere Christian knight of the 20th century.” Can’t remember who said it, but I agree. So much philosophy is so clinical that it is nearly unreadable. Whereas Lewis’ wrote in a style we can all enjoy, yet he still takes his subject material seriously. The Problem of Pain is very engaging.
His Screwtape Letters is another worthwhile exploration of the Problem of Evil:
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.86985/mode/2up
Thank you for the answer. I only hope that others see this interaction and actually read some C.S. Lewis. The man is a giant. It’s so strange. For most of my life I couldn’t get anyone to care about God. Now, evil is so in our face that people are seeking Him out, and I don’t have to lift a finger. Pity it took things getting this bad, but isn’t that just what the Bible would lead us to expect?
Trusting the Bible is like hiring a handyman who tells you he can fix your house, but first he has to destroy one third of the rooms, poison another third, enslave one third of the occupants, and kill another third. After that you’ll be able to live there, but only if you spend the rest of your life on your knees. Yep, sounds like the word of the tribe.
Maybe you’re just to low IQ to comprehend the spirit world, which is why you can’t even comprehend your lack of comprehension…eh?
“…the fact that the author is not himself a member of the Eminent community can be seen in his erroneous belief that Scary Bright people “are unlikely to believe in gods”. To the contrary, most of us not only believe in gods in one form or another, but our thoughts on the subject are considerably more esoteric, and exotic, than most of us would ever share in public. The conventional dogmatic models simply do not suffice to explain the available evidence; there is a reason I repeatedly tell you that the world is not only weirder than we believe, it is considerably stranger than most of us are even capable of imagining.”
But, I’m sure that your ” smarter” than all these smart people put together…..eh…smartboi ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology
Name calling and regurgitating the Yiddish script to the destruction of creation should not be seen as spirituality. Just lazy copouts.
Yeah, I’m pretty certain I’m smart enough to recognize most disinformation. Which is all you offer. Well that, and school yard banter.
He loves to condemn the chosenites while at the same time believing in their book of fables. Reeeeeeeeeee…….
And you are a brain…….. reeeeeeee
Ignorant…totally ignorant
Grunge,
I am unable to post any links…had three about your thread but they are all blocked.
Sorry buddy…I also take a Historic view, and respectfully countered the Futurism and Preterism views.
Let me try one more time….SUCCESS!
Appreciate it Mark, I’ll give that one a read brother.
Grunge,
It is a wide and deep link with dozens of sub links…I have been mining it for a while.
I have been on the hobby horse of Danial 9:27 before…the Sir Anderson deception in the 1885 REVISED King James Bible and his connection to others who furthered his deception/subtle changes of that verse and into other translations opened my eyes.
Hopefully this PDF will post as I have spent a lot of time researching it, couldn’t post it yesterday.
I see this hinge verse (Danial 9:27) and the changed deception as critical. I was fed the deception for 20 years before my extreme doubt and discomfort with the
Futurists/Pre Trib-Christion Zionists sent me on a deep dive.
https://www.prophecycountdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/The-Truth-of-Daniel-9-27-1.pdf