HURT

I wanted to write my new article today. I haven’t been able to focus because of the departure of Smokey and Stuck. This is a tough site with strong personalities. I find it to be entertaining and intellectually stimulating. I like the brawls and no holds barred flamefests. I would never want to become the school teacher telling people to behave. I’ve had nasty battles with Stuck and Smokey. I’ve gotten really pissed off with both of them. But, we’ve always let bygones be bygones.

The departure of these two intelligent, funny, and caring people from this site will hurt the site tremendously. I’ll let Johnny Cash doing Nine Inch Nails sum up my feelings today.

 

I hurt myself today
to see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
the only thing that’s real
the needle tears a hole
the old familiar sting
try to kill it all away
but I remember everything
what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
and you could have it all
my empire of dirt

I will let you down
I will make you hurt

I wear this crown of thorns
upon my liar’s chair
full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
beneath the stains of time
the feelings disappear
you are someone else
I am still right here

what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
and you could have it all
my empire of dirt

I will let you down
I will make you hurt

if I could start again
a million miles away
I would keep myself
I would find a way

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Smoke Jensen
Smoke Jensen
March 26, 2011 6:03 pm

I would still love your site even if you were the only one posting FWIW. 😉

DavosSherman
DavosSherman
March 26, 2011 6:33 pm

WTF did I miss?

SSS
SSS
March 26, 2011 6:43 pm

Davos

Go over to the “The Next Decade: 11 Predictions” article posted by Stucky. You’ll understand very shortly when you start reading the comments.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 26, 2011 6:46 pm

A little voluntary self-censorship on the part of TBP writers would be a good idea. I suggest ignoring outrageous and egregious flamethrowing. It gets old anyhow, and eventually grates on your nerves.

RE

Shadows
Shadows
March 26, 2011 6:49 pm

I second RE on this.

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 26, 2011 7:11 pm

Very nice, Admin.

I blame this whole thing on the Supermoon.

I third RE on this.

Geez, am I the only hormonal person around here? Premarin a few days a week really straightened me out, lol.

Opinionated Bloviator
Opinionated Bloviator
March 26, 2011 7:15 pm

Admin – Sorry to hear they are gone. People willing to make a stand for what they believe to be true is becoming almost extinct in this our “money = morals and ethics age of spiritual decay”. I hope they decide to return in the future.

Surly1
Surly1
March 26, 2011 7:26 pm

Two truly distinctive voices. Both capable of extremes. I thought Smokey was uniformly sour and a bully until I saw what he posted on RE’s 3/20 rant.

Here is hoping that after a hiatus they will both see fit to return. We could hope.

Zara
Zara
March 26, 2011 7:30 pm

What did I miss?

AKAnon
AKAnon
March 26, 2011 7:34 pm

Hope said “Geez, am I the only hormonal person around here?” Apparently not. I’m not a long-timer, and forgive me if I’m naively optimistic, but I think Smokey & Stucky will both be back soon. Rumors of their demise may be greatly exaggerated. At any rate, I hope so.

howard in nyc
howard in nyc
March 26, 2011 7:46 pm

[img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clq01TXQR0s%5B/img%5D

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clq01TXQR0s[/media]

one of these has to work

Jackson
Jackson
March 26, 2011 7:53 pm

Sorry to read about StuckInNewJersy’s son and I wish the two of them the best.Sadly this isn’t the only personal problem Stuck’s written about on this site or another. He’s just a name on a comment line but over the years he’s become an online acquaintance. One never wants his acquaintances or friends to suffer.

Give and take and some witty name-calling makes good reading. Churlish language and comments don’t. Stuck mostly and Smokey most certainly need sharpen their pens so they don’t write boringly with blunt nibs. I agree with AKAnon, Stuck and Smokey will be back before long. Hopefully when they return they’ll be better not baneful again.

bigargon
bigargon
March 26, 2011 8:20 pm

too bad they left.

a lot times Stuck was kind of like Nigel Tufnel of Spinal Tap …confused….. but would come up with some brilliant insights no and then.

with Smokey i saw him as funny old curmudgeon. he was also a form of quality control.. scaring away the faint of heart, or people that took things to seriously.

DavosSherman
DavosSherman
March 26, 2011 9:01 pm

@SSS: Oh. I saw the predictions and didn’t read them the other day.

While I have a general idea of what will hold up and what will get crushed I don’t spend time on predictions – with 196 countries, most run by loons and 7 billion people and mother nature – I personally feel there are too many variables to even pin the tail on the donkey. I give credit to those who write their thoughts out though.

But I read the comments, thanks, I now know what happened.

I’ll miss both Stuck and Smokey. I liked them both.

Blogs, to me are like families. I have a SIL, I get not everyone will get along or agree. I left CM’s site. My heart goes out to them both, there are a lot of great people on the CM site I truly miss.

Steve Hogan
Steve Hogan
March 26, 2011 9:05 pm

As much as I dislike Smokey’s tactics, he certainly does add color to the conversation. While he’s an insufferable blowhard, and his incessant references to his long shlong are downright tiresome, I hope he makes a triumphant return.

Punk in Drublic
Punk in Drublic
March 26, 2011 9:33 pm

Smokey and Stuck:
[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRXbYUDGfYcP9j4y78YP1_XgwW-q-Sa0sb88oUSyvuJ-NOB8Ql81g[/img]

Buddabull
Buddabull
March 26, 2011 9:38 pm

May the force be with you Smokey and Stuck.

Imaginarium
Imaginarium
March 26, 2011 9:50 pm

Stucks failure
Matt.7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

A simple sign of the times
Matt. 24:12
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 26, 2011 10:09 pm

You think Smokey’s gone? Well I bet you didn’t even watch admin’s video. Fucking bottom feeders .

I don’t know where to begin, so I say, meet me on the 11 reasons post. You too, RE. I’ll take your elitist ass like fucking child’s plaly, you illuminati assfucker… Like fucking child’s play.

You pussies don’t like an opposing view, even if it’s base like the strange cock in your womans’ ass’? Shut the fuck up. Without real opposition you’re like fish in a barrel.

Or do you want to keep sucking each others’ dicks in the ivory tower?

Pathetic. You just lost a remarkable blogster and are standing around like dumbfounded dipshits after a quake.

Until Admin says otherwise, you naysayers are open season for me. Don’t deny you need a reality check. Until Smokey returns or I just get tired of it, you are toast…

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 26, 2011 10:48 pm

C’mon thumbs down… any reason for your south agreeance?

Waiting to hear it…

cahuitabeachbound
cahuitabeachbound
March 26, 2011 11:15 pm

Steve Hogan:

I can attest to Smokey having an 11 1/2 Big Satan and the Twins. His circumcision ring is the size of a bagel. I’d hate to see the thing angry.

Steve Hogan
Steve Hogan
March 26, 2011 11:39 pm

That’s more information than I need, cahuitabeachbound. Thanks all the same.

brann
brann
March 26, 2011 11:54 pm

all hail the new smokey–colma rising– more like bullshit rising– the king is dead,fuck the new king

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 12:57 am

Brann: Get a fucking clue, you baby-boomstain inbred.

Your comment at this time is that of a sniveling, hunchbacked dwarf.

An imp is the better dictionary term.

Here’s a fact, cocksucker (or is that PLUCKER, chicken boy):

You just made a shitlist. You’re in my Punkbook. Don’t come crawling for the proverbial leftovers of my pal Smokey and think you wont get your propper tanning. Now or ever.

Now get back to rubbing your angry inch to cnn. Your bitch isn’t coming back. She said so after Smokey got done ripping her in two.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 1:13 am

C’mon, thumbs down! What are you, chicken?! Boc Boc, bitch.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 2:04 am

To thumbs downers:

bcaw boc boc.

Pathetic. Like hirelings behind the curtain… but for free. Chickenshit duechetard fucks.

A bunch of pansies.

You will not be safe when you voice your neanderthal banter. You will not bask in the safety of numbers… I will personally make sure of that. You may have driven away Smokey, but you have NOT refined your sophomoric opinions.

You have not passed the cool test. Fail.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 2:40 am

Who’s the “thumbs downer” and give me one fuckin reason I should retract any post:

Like I said…

Chickenshit.

Pathetic.

Welshman
Welshman
March 27, 2011 9:31 am

Gee,

The thumbs up is like QE. Give RE a thumbs up and it goes from 16 to 22. Give Hope a thumbs up and it goes from 8 to 10. This site is suppose to be run by an honest accountant LOL.

Welshman
Welshman
March 27, 2011 10:22 am

Bigargon,

Muck and I can be called Cumudgeon, Smokey is a smart outright Troll with his brain tuned into some phallic bandwith. Occasionally you get some warmth and sincerity, and he is amusing to a point.

Colma,

You should try and eat food with less food coloring. I use to think you had interesting things to say, now I don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. Smokey is your adopted pal and a big dog on the site, but he is not one of God’s twelve disciples like RE.

StuckInNJ
StuckInNJ
March 27, 2011 12:01 pm

I am well acquainted with hurt.

There have been many days these past two months that I have spent crying over my son’s predicament. Some days I blame him. More often I blame myself for failing him. Some days I realize neither is true. Most days I’m just lost and confused.

Ms. Freud asks me why do I bare by soul for the world to see … over the internet … to people I will never meet. Perhaps it’s as Davos said … that we are all a family. I do know that the exercise of writing about my grief is cathartic.

Sometimes it’s easier to express feelings to a “stranger” than it is a family member. When someone responds with, “I know what you’re going through because x, y, or z ..”, well … suddenly I don’t feel like I’m all alone in this journey. Being alone in grief is the Greatest Curse. But walking with someone who shares the burden is the Greatest Blessing.

And when someone actually offers encouragement, well .. spilling my guts on the internet seems all worth while … the touch of a human hand streaming over the internet via little pixels. It is a comfort beyond understanding.

We exhibit the family aspect of this forum because we fight. All families fight.

And, so, I lashed out at Smokey because he didn’t respond as I wanted him too. If he couldn’t feel my grief, I wanted him to at least respect my grief. That was MY mistake. That was foolish. I reacted out of pure emotion. I am the one who put my son’s problem out there for everyone to see. Thus, I should have been willing to accept both positive and negative responses. People do have a right to respond however they want … not just the way I want. Somehow, I forgot all about that.

So, Smokey, if you’re reading this, I apologize. Once things settle down here I’ll resume posting regularly again. I hope you do as well.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 27, 2011 12:06 pm

way to go stucky- glad to see you
hopefully smokey can reach your level of maturity soon

eugend66
eugend66
March 27, 2011 12:10 pm

Stucky, welcome back !

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 27, 2011 12:11 pm

@colma – yawn

Jmarz
Jmarz
March 27, 2011 12:19 pm

Stuck

Emotions are very hard to handle. Sometimes we all need to step away from the situation for a little bit to think clearly. I’m glad you are back on board. I hope you continue to share your life with everyone.

flash
flash
March 27, 2011 12:26 pm

Stuck , don’t sweat the small stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQi3GNb-4Uk

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 27, 2011 12:27 pm

Stuck
Read the last daily rant. You inspired it.
RE

StuckInNJ
StuckInNJ
March 27, 2011 12:52 pm

RE, I did read it and enjoyed it.

“I am TRAPPED, as all of you are also TRAPPED”.

I won’t be calling you a hypocrite anymore. I get it now.

SSS
SSS
March 27, 2011 12:54 pm

Stucky

Welcome back. I just knew you had it in you. Next time, don’t forget to duck.

brann
brann
March 27, 2011 1:13 pm

colma–what in the hell are you babbling about?hysterical teenage girls make more sense.obviously you are one of those strange, deranged loners,sitting naked at your keyboard late nite getting off to perverted websites. oh,your vocabulary would make a sailor proud.

Shadows
Shadows
March 27, 2011 1:15 pm

Yay! Stuck is back!

I would say some more but I would just be echoing Jmarz.

Colma, you post some out-of-nowhere rant about how you’re gonna whoop everyone’s ass and generally be a troll and you wonder why you got thumbed down? Really? Here’s an idea: you want to be the new Smokey, stop taking yourself that seriously, mmkay? Smokey’s rants are a lot funnier than that stream of self-important drool you just posted.

eugend66
eugend66
March 27, 2011 1:47 pm

Shadows,

… deleted.

Surly1
Surly1
March 27, 2011 1:48 pm

Stuck,
Welcome back. I cannot even imagine what you are dealing with, and have nothing to offer, except to note the appreciation for your presence that so many other posters bothered to comment upon– even many who make very infrequent stops on these threads. Your presence and perspective are valued, if not always agreed with.

But then, that’s the point, ain’t it?

Colma
Shadows, Brann and others have said it better than me. But feel free to add me to your shitlist.

Fucktard…

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 2:24 pm

Good Morning, all!

I was taunting those who would celebrate the departure of Smokey. Hence the schoolyard chicken noise. I stand by my posts… all of them, despite their beinged authored with firewater burning in my veins. Truth syrum is truth syrum.

Read them again, numbskulls.

Stuck is back, and that is a good thing. I don’t know if Smokey ever will be, and that is bad.

Is there anyone who didn’t get napalmed by the guy? Did you take it personally? I doubt it. So:

Shadows/surly1: No, I’m not nearly as funny as Smokey. When coming to this site I could be assured the opportunity of clicking a “Smokey On…” and getting a true, belly full of laughter. He was the Grand Master Blaster. So while I lamented his loss, I looked around for those who would gloat and fired away. Brann was one of them. Too bad for brann. I don’t take that back. This shit has nothing to do with me and I have neither the ability or energy to even attempt at replacing Smokey. I will, however, do what little I can to defend the legacy of who is a necessary… yes I do say necessary… presence on the comment board. Without him things will change, but if you really think about it, it may not be for the better. I really hope that the balls haven’t been clipped from this site.

That being said, let me assume that you’re all older, maybe in your fifties and up. Well, that dynamic, that image of old men in smoking jackets having a quiet conversation over their tea and crumpets will not cut the mustard in my opinion. It has it’s place, but a scene like that needs a shakeup every now and again. I’m not kidding. I hope you all realize that.

Perhaps you can put that in your pipe and smoke it. If Smokey’s not back come monday, I’m writing a tbp eulogy to him and hope anyone who has ever almost spit their coffee up on the laptop over an outrageous, ballsy, fiery post by should join in remembering that time of true, inner laughter.

It’s looking like the laughter is dead.

brann
brann
March 27, 2011 2:36 pm

there is a difference between being laughed with and being laughed at. i think you know where you fit –comla .

tbone
tbone
March 27, 2011 2:37 pm

Stuck,
I have been traveling and working a lot lately, so I don’t know what is going on with your son. I will not make you re-live it. I can only offer my best wishes and hopes for the best.
I have enjoyed reading your posts, and can see by reading between the lines that you have had your share of knocks, but have not lost your compassion for your fellow man.

I too have been accused of wearing my heart on my sleeve. I find conversations with folks that have had no hardships in their lives very un-fulfilling, down right boring, and these people are least well suited well to deal with any adversity….(they are the ones that jump out the window when they lose their fortune). Show me someone that has dealt with some real shit and I find them fasinating. Alot can be learned from them. You know how they will act under fire. Heoric behaviour can only be revealed in times of extreme duress.

God never closes a door without opening a window

Best wishes

I too have been acused of wearing my heart on my sleeve

tbone
tbone
March 27, 2011 2:38 pm

sorry for typos,

eugend66
eugend66
March 27, 2011 2:38 pm

Brann, move your nose.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 3:15 pm

Brann: Did everything I just said fly over your head?

Praise Jeebus, man. This shit isn’t about me. It’s about severe misunderstandings between two MAJOR figures on TBP. They quit. One came back. One probably wont. I am just a commentor typing amidst a foggy graveyard in Northern California. My presence here is insignificant, but I want Smokey to know he’s one of the funniest mofos ever. I hope he pursues writing for the onion or cracked blog or somewhere he’s appreciated.

Stuck and Smokey are Titans on this site. This site is my goto site. I’ve had it opened in a tab for years, since the RD days. The articles are awesome. The comments are funnier than shit. The napalm keeps bible-thumpers, truthers and misinformation from infecting the threads. Sometimes I catch napalm. I’ve thumbs-upped most of Smokey’s bombs, even if I percieved the napalm to be at me.

So please enlighten me, brann: What kind of funny are you? Where’s your line in the sand between liberty and anarchy? When someone ignores this line, a very important line, what should be said?

SoundOfSilence
SoundOfSilence
March 27, 2011 3:32 pm

Welcome back Stuck