HURT

I wanted to write my new article today. I haven’t been able to focus because of the departure of Smokey and Stuck. This is a tough site with strong personalities. I find it to be entertaining and intellectually stimulating. I like the brawls and no holds barred flamefests. I would never want to become the school teacher telling people to behave. I’ve had nasty battles with Stuck and Smokey. I’ve gotten really pissed off with both of them. But, we’ve always let bygones be bygones.

The departure of these two intelligent, funny, and caring people from this site will hurt the site tremendously. I’ll let Johnny Cash doing Nine Inch Nails sum up my feelings today.

 

I hurt myself today
to see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
the only thing that’s real
the needle tears a hole
the old familiar sting
try to kill it all away
but I remember everything
what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
and you could have it all
my empire of dirt

I will let you down
I will make you hurt

I wear this crown of thorns
upon my liar’s chair
full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
beneath the stains of time
the feelings disappear
you are someone else
I am still right here

what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
and you could have it all
my empire of dirt

I will let you down
I will make you hurt

if I could start again
a million miles away
I would keep myself
I would find a way

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brann
brann
March 27, 2011 3:52 pm

colma–i agree with you on the site and the people here.i do not go a day without reading all i can. i never was celebrating the loss of stucky or smokey. they both gave me shit the short period of time i have been here and did not let it bother me. i get it. if i have misunderstood you , then my bad. if not then fire away.

newsjunkie
newsjunkie
March 27, 2011 4:00 pm

What’s going on with Smokey?

StuckInNJ
StuckInNJ
March 27, 2011 4:04 pm

Jeezus. All because of one misunderstanding? There MUST be more to it than what appears. This is insane.

@Smokey — I have created a gmail account; [email protected]. PLEASE email me. We CAN work this out. I’m pretty much open to anything. For the love of God, they put my son in shackles last night. So, let’s put things in perspective … this is MINOR crap compared to real life.

[email protected]

StuckInNJ
StuckInNJ
March 27, 2011 4:19 pm

Jeez. Maybe it’s because he’s last in the NCAA pool. Well, I hope you are wrong. I think it’s IMPOSSIBLE to not read this site once you’ve been hooked. Can’t be done, regardless of what he says. I’m positive he’s reading this.

So, hey Smokey … the email is real …. TALK TO ME!! But as Jim says, it’s YOUR choice. I wish you well regardless.

[email protected]

Muck About
Muck About
March 27, 2011 4:26 pm

Hi Stuck… Good on you. If you should ever need anything you don’t have (within reason, of course), have Admin send you my email address. We’ll get together and I will assist in any way I can.

Why, you ask? I like you and the way you think and the way you lovingly refer to Ms. Freud. I have a daughter in the same shape your son is in. Not institutionalized and independent for the moment but ruined by drugs and bad decisions. I k-n-o-w you pain.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help..

MA

PS: as far as Smokey, let it go. It really isn’t worth making a peace offer to a turd. Just IMO..

newsjunkie
newsjunkie
March 27, 2011 4:29 pm

If Smokey says his blogging days are over, my guess is that he’s quite ill, and just not saying.
You know how he is.

God knows I love that crusty old marshmallow, I hope he’s OK.

flash
flash
March 27, 2011 4:30 pm

Administrator says:

I’ve been in contact with Smokey.

He won’t be coming back.

We’ll have to soldier on without him.

I haven’t followed TPB very closely in the last weak due to that wretched curse heaped upon humanity called work , but It appears I had Smokey pegged as a thicker-skinned hard assed hombre than he really is.
But then again Jim you could be dead one.It may certainly be more than a case of mistaken sensitivity and there are other issues at play.
I certainly hope it isn’t health.But if it is , I sincerely pray for a speedy recovery for the grungy ole’ bastard.

flash
flash
March 27, 2011 4:37 pm

Dedicated to Smokey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYsKDaQIX54

Shit….now I have to rinse my ears out with hydrochloric acid.

llpoh
llpoh
March 27, 2011 4:50 pm

Stuck – you are THE MAN. Until you screw with me. Then you are dogmeat.

So glad to see you post. Truly.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 5:08 pm

To all, to Smokey, here’s my short Eulogy and I hope you run with this ball. This shit really sucks but we will indeed soldier on…

“Colma Rising’s Eulogy for Smokey”

Smokey was a man of extremes. A polarizing force on the TBP, simultaneously loved and hated.

In a world where everybody is on the edge, and certainty is a luxury most can no longer confidently posses, Smokey cut through the bullshit with brutality and surgically calculated language. No poster was safe, not even the Administrator. When one saw that he had posted on a thread shortly after posting oneself, all braced themselves for what they were about to see when the prompt was clicked. While one could assume they were in for a trademark TBP beat-down, I think Smokey would surprise with the unexpected. What could be counted on was a vigorous contrarian opinion. That vigorous vitriol served a noble purpose. Without this important element, intellectual dishonesty would certainly have had a better survival rate in the past. The inability to anticipate argument and to defend one’s position with figurative necessary force can easily overcome any of us. With Smokey patrolling the threads, one always had to be on their toes and prepared.

As we all observe the world about us, our opinions change as we grow. In an alchemical sense, our positions are evolving. When expounding in the realm of theory, the heat of debate transforms the opinions of all. Over the course of our lives, worldviews are transformed to finer, finished products through this symbolic “heat”. If our opinions and posts were like a steak in the fire of debate, Smokey flash broiled all opinions to see what was left… meat or ash.

And what a flash broil the man could be. What a proud bearer of insolence. What an outrageous piece of work. A pistol, a firecracker, a pain in the ass. What loss we have truly incurred will only show with time… in which for many of us, Smokey will not be forgotten.

That he was abrasive, grumpy and rough on all is a given. For those who refuse to acknowledge the blatant hilarity of his demeanor, I contend that he is a very spiritual man, an enlightened soul. His commentary on RE’s rant on God earlier this week was unexpected, but it’s there. A bit of recent evidence on his greater character is there for us to see. The exchanges in that thread were well rounded, well thought and leaving very little if nothing to be added to. Many of comments on other threads were extremely thoughtful and free of napalm as well. You just had to be lucky enough to come across them. Thank you Smokey.

As the like ends of magnets will repel, Smokey’s ability to instantly bring himself to the lighter side of an argument was an art.

At this time, I would love to hear what everybody’s favorite Smokey blasts were. What, if ever, made you double-over in laughter, saying to yourselves: “I can’t believe what I’m reading!” or “Is this fucking guy serious?!” ?

Some kind words for the “deceased”? Please let us hear some “Kind” words. The Smokey Kind.

This is the song “Eulogy” by Tool. It is, in it’s own way, fitting for these circumstances. I hope you all watch and/or read to see what I mean. Hop to 2:00 if the cool drums is taking too long.

Smokey, if you’re out there, you will be missed. It just wont be the same without you here. So long… we wish you well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E_rGd4ofcA&feature=related

“Eulogy”

He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.
We’ll miss him.
I’ll miss him.

He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.
We’ll miss him.
I’ll miss him.
We’re gonna miss him
We’re gonna miss him

So long.
We wish you well.
You told us how you weren’t afraid to die.
Well then, so long.
Don’t cry here
Or feel too down.
Not all martyrs see divinity.
But at least you tried.

Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud.
We’ll miss him.
We’ll miss him.

Ranting and pointing his finger
At everything but his heart.
We’ll miss him.
We’ll miss him.
We’re gonna miss him.
We’re gonna miss him.

No way to recall
What it was that you had said to me,
Like I care at all.

But it was so loud.
And you sure could yell.
You took a stand on every little thing
And it was so loud.

You could be the one who saves me from my own existence.

Warn while some child might chill, nine-one-two.

I’m too smart when you’re invisible by the bone symbol on you. So he bashes his skull through the window while looking out to the sea. Like torment of my ego. And we’re amused by this.

Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud and I
Swallowed his facade cuz I’m so
Eager to identify with
Someone above the ground,
Someone who seemed to feel the same,
Someone prepared to lead the way, and
Someone who would die for me.

Will you? Will you now?
Would you die for me?
Don’t you fuckin lie.

Don’t you step out of line.
Don’t you step out of line.
Don’t you step out of line.
Don’t you fuckin lie.

You’ve claimed all this time that you would die for me.
Why then are you so surprised when you hear your own
eulogy?

He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.
He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.

Come down.
Get off your fucking cross.
We need the fucking space,
to nail the next fool martyr.

To ascend you must die.
You must be crucified,
For our sins and our lies!
Good-bye!!!

FRED FLINTSTONE
FRED FLINTSTONE
March 27, 2011 5:11 pm

I thought Smokey was a pretty good shit, beneath all the grotesque elder porn images he generated. That being said, don’t talk mad shit if you can’t handle the same. It is hard to admit when you crossed a line and behaved dishonorably like Smokey did, and it is his job to man up and apologize or find somewhere else. I think this fruity little blog is unique in the fact that it rationally discuss pertinent economic and political issues while also having all the decorum of a cracked out hooker in church.

FRED FLINTSTONE
FRED FLINTSTONE
March 27, 2011 5:12 pm

PS

Colon Riding… you are no Smokey and never will be.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 27, 2011 5:14 pm

Sad to hear so far smokey will not return. There are lessons to be learned.

Coming soon to a theatre near you.

RE

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 5:23 pm

Fred: That’s a fact.

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 27, 2011 5:33 pm

Welcome Back Stuck! Tend to your family first, drop in when you feel like it, our hopes and prayers are with you!

I just can’t believe Smokey isn’t coming back. He says things in a way I would never dare try. His was a singular voice, truly. Smokey, if you’re reading this, god bless, come back!

brann
brann
March 27, 2011 5:39 pm

your eulogy will be AENIMA–BECAUSE YOU ARE A TOOL

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 5:44 pm

Brann:: an astute observation.

llpoh
llpoh
March 27, 2011 5:50 pm

RE – you talk about a little voluntary self-censorship being a good idea.

You are one prime hypocrite. People on this site have been BEGGING you to use a bit of self-censorship, esp re the length of your posts and articles. So far, we have no bananas.

So, how about for the good of the site why don’t YOU excercise a bit of self-censorship? Show us by example how it is done. Be a leader. If you do, I will (largely) avoid flaming your stuff.

SSS
SSS
March 27, 2011 5:59 pm

Admin

Four clicks on the Google ads. Feeling better?

SSS
SSS
March 27, 2011 6:10 pm

@ Fred, who said, “I think this fruity little blog is unique in the fact that it rationally discusses pertinent economic and political issues while also having all the decorum of a cracked out hooker in church.”

Good one. And funny. Admin ought to put that out there on the broader net as an enticement for more people to visit the site. Maybe reworked as his byline when his articles are posted on other sites.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 27, 2011 6:13 pm

@llpoh

New Daily Rant treats this problem in depth.

Coming soon to a theatre near you when I get off the lake.

RE

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 6:24 pm

Some Smokeyisms, from the Storm article. LMAO just reading…

1. I tossed your wife a cup of Sticky Stuff last night. She gulped it down and had a big smile on her face afterwards. She sucks dick like a champ.
2. I meant no disrespect to your wife. She promised me that she’s going to swallow a full pint of my baby batter tomorrow night, right after she takes it up the ass from Leroy, the bagboy at your local supermarket.
3. By the way, your whore wife made me promise to wash her tonsils this coming weekend with a half pint of my Single Celled Soldiers.
4. Some of us don’t measure our self worth by thumb counts on a blog.
ESPECIALLY when we openly advocate a strong military while simultaneously disrespecting Ron and Rand Paul on what is probably THE most libertarian web site on the entire internet.
If thumbs up were important to me, I would parrot the appeasement lines of the curs who won’t take their hands off their nuts and fight back when attacked by radical extremists.
Instead, like a fucking MAN, instead of a CUR, I boldly and proudly say that RON AND RAND PAUL EAT SHIT.
Thumb that, COCKSUCKERS.
5. By the way, faggot, since you’ve been reading Jim’s articles for a couple of years, you know that I don’t have a monopoly on foul language. Nearly every regular member here, including the Administrator, has participated in many fine foul-mouthed battles.
Since you are so big on censoring, how about censor my 11 1/2″ dick.
6. Before this thing plays out, you’ll have 600k sign up strictly to motherfuck me.

llpoh
llpoh
March 27, 2011 6:37 pm

Hey Admin –

Ron Paul eats shit and Rand is a pussy faggot.

We not only should enforce a no fly zone in Libya, we should invade. We also should take out those cocksucker Ayrabs as well. And take their fucking oil while we are at it.

Bernanke is god-like in his financial abilities. We should worship at his feet. Banks are honest establishments who serve the public good.

There, that should take your mind off things and give your heart a much needed jolt of adrenaline. Remember, there are dragons to slay and damsels to rescue.

llpoh
llpoh
March 27, 2011 7:17 pm

Damn, you are in a bad way. i will have to think of something else.

And to the two assholes so far that have given me a thumbs down on my comments to RE, you can kiss my ass. For him to give advice on self-censorship is akin to Gene Simmons advocating celibacy.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 7:23 pm

Admin: Is your next article war for oil? China?

I see no problem in Blitzkrieging sand dunes for some Texas Tea.

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
March 27, 2011 7:23 pm

@Smokey: bye

But I already said that. I personally didn’t think he contributed to the site in a manner that was worth more than his profanity and constant crapping (so to speak) on every thread, regardless of subject.

I will enjoy more intellectual climes on TBP with erudite heart felt napalm bombs where needed rather than merely repeated excremental mouthing.

MA

Surly1
Surly1
March 27, 2011 7:47 pm

Muck

I thought pretty much the same thng until I ready Smokey’s posts on RE’s God thread, and I was just blown away. Very sensitive and very deep. Thoughtful stuff.

A good old fashioned flame fest requires no subtlety, but sometimes it’s easy to miss out on someone’s sarcasm or ironic intent.

Colma
In that vein, I thought you were trying to be the new Smokey. Apparently not. Which is good.
TBP has become my “go-to” site as well. And I agree with Jim that it just won’t be the same without the sour old fuck bragging on his johnson.

llpoh
llpoh
March 27, 2011 7:54 pm

There are no fraudulent profits made on wall street. They earn every penny they make. You really need to lay off those honest businessmen who are simply out making an honest dollar. It is shameful the way they are blamed for evrything that happens.

llpoh
llpoh
March 27, 2011 8:03 pm

I am gonna have to get a bigger cattle prod. Admin’s ass is totally numb at the moment.

Surly1
Surly1
March 27, 2011 8:37 pm

Lloyd Blankfein says it’s so. So it must be true.

howard in nyc
howard in nyc
March 27, 2011 9:45 pm

pouring out some for my dead internet homie, smokey. i am sorry to see him go.

i am happy to see stuck stay. again, best wishes for you and your son. may he heal quickly.

AKAnon
AKAnon
March 27, 2011 9:45 pm

Admin-Has anything significant been added to “Predictions” comments since it fell off the “latest post” list? Just wondering if it warrants a bump. Thanks, (god).

AKAnon
AKAnon
March 27, 2011 10:05 pm

Stuck-Do what ever you need to do. Then come back (full time) when it feels right.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 27, 2011 10:13 pm

The word fraud is reactionary language to a misunderstood natural force.

Some are lifted by the invisible hand

Some are crushed under its holy weight

Fraud is a relative term

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 27, 2011 10:43 pm

The Daily Rant covering this Napalm Incident is now in the queue.

RE

llpoh
llpoh
March 27, 2011 10:44 pm

Oh goodie.

AKAnon
AKAnon
March 28, 2011 1:51 am

Admin-Thanks-looks like I missed little, but you never know. The saga continues….