Germany’s Choice: USA! USA! USA! … or, RUSSIA?

A mighty fine current article from the German Magazine, Der Spiegel.

Bottom Line: Germany is basically evenly 50-50 split in terms of who would make a better ally.

Now, this is a remarkable turn of events considering that a mere 6 years ago pretty much all of Germany was drooling over the Great Big Wunderbar Neegro. Now? Not so much.

Take note of the differences between the two Ambassadors to Germany. America sends a Wallstreetfuk who doesn’t speak a word of German, and doesn’t understand the German people. Russia sends a man who speaks fluent German, and understands German angst, as well as their desires.

Which world leader actually likes Obama, or the USA? Better yet, who respects us? No one!! And that includes Da Joos … who treat Da Neegrow as basically a Useful Idiot. Well, I think the Brits still like us. Maybe it’s because we’ll soon be a failed warmongering empire just like they were. Meanwhile, Russia forges alliances with China, India, … and now, Germany (beyond the mere business interests).

I would bet my life that the HNIC sees no problem with any of this.  All he has to do is hit the “reset” button, or hire a PR firm to smooth things over, or send smooth-talking Ketchup Boy over there to work his miracle-cure.  Oreo is probably happy as a pig-in-shit that half of Germany still likes him … while failing to realize his popularity is trending DOWN, and at great speed.

Germany will probably never leave NATO. Why piss off a nation with 10,000 nukes?  But, I believe Germany will eventually look upon the USA! USA! USA! just as Da Joos do … Useful Idiots who can provide “protection”, and nothing else.

We are friendless in a hostile world.

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Photo Gallery: Rift Grows Between Berlin and US

Part 1: WILL IT BE AMERICA OR RUSSIA?

 John Emerson never stops smiling. On the evening of Friday, July 4 — Independence Day — the United States ambassador shook hands on the red carpet at a reception given by his embassy at Berlin’s former Tempelhof Airport, which has since been transformed into a park. Emerson greeted his guests with a diplomat’s practiced joviality. He faced an endless line of businesspeople, German government officials and celebrities, and although he could be seen sweating, his smile remained unbroken, as if to convey the message that all was still well in the world.

 

It’s been a common scene at recent encounters between American and German officials. But behind the perfect façade, relations are cracking. Even as workers were decorating Tempelhof Field with pennants and small flags last Friday, a report was making the rounds in the German capital that could very well drag relations between Washington and Berlin to a new low.

During questioning, an employee of Germany’s foreign intelligence agency, the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), told German authorities he had sold secret documents to the Americans. Given that special encryption technology was found during a raid of his apartment, it seems highly unlikely that selling the classified information was his idea.

This Wednesday, the spying scandal took on a new dimension when investigators with the Federal Criminal Police Office raided the home and offices of a Defense Ministry employee whom officials also suspect may have spied for the Americans.

The developments are only the latest tussle in a relationship between Germany and the United States that has suffered in recent years. German Chancellor Angela Merkel has already abandoned hope that the United States will come to its senses and rein in its intelligence agencies. During Merkel’s last visit to Washington, US President Barack Obama wasn’t even willing to commit to a no-spy agreement guaranteeing Germany a modicum of security.

Merkel Fears Growing Anti-American Sentiment

The chancellor did, however, expect the Americans to at least refrain from involving her in any further embarrassing incidents — she has no interest in seeing a continued rise in anti-US sentiment in Germany, a development that would ultimately offer her no choice but to distance herself from the Americans once again. But that point may have already been reached.

As of the end of last week, the BND had not yet fully investigated the spy scandal. But if the story turns out to be true, it will mean that the Americans paid a mole to copy documents for them, some of which were even intended for the German parliamentary committee set up to investigate the NSA’s activities in Germany. It would represent a new level of audacity.

The initial reports alone were enough to enrage key members of Germany’s coalition government composed of Merkel’s conservative Christian Democrats and the center-left Social Democrats (SPD) — so much so that some now feel US intelligence agencies are capable of anything.

“If it is confirmed that the spying activities against the BND also targeted the work of the NSA investigative committee, it will be an unprecedented assault on the parliament and our democratic institutions,” said Thomas Oppermann, parliamentary leader of the SPD. By Wednesday of this week, with fresh suspicions of spying at the Defense Ministry, Merkel’s spokesman, Steffen Seibert, indicated a German-American relations had hit a new nadir and spoke for the first time of “profound differences of opinion” between Berlin and Washington.

The German Foreign Ministry summoned Ambassador Emerson on Friday afternoon, before the Fourth of July festivities began. Employees at the German Chancellery were instructed to restrict their communications with the United States to essential matters. Some in the German government have even considered setting an example and expelling an American diplomat. And nearly a week later, on Thursday, the government in Berlin asked the CIA’s station chief in Germany to leave the country. Although less serious than a formal expulsion, the action is still tantamount to a diplomatic kick in the knees.

Is Germany Caught Between East and West?

Of course, this isn’t really what the chancellor wants. She would prefer to see the Germans remain firmly rooted in the Western alliance and loyal to their American partners. But she has also noticed how much anti-American sentiment the NSA scandal has stirred up among Germans. The Körber Foundation recently commissioned a study on Germans’ attitudes toward German foreign policy. With which country should Germany cooperate in the future, respondents were asked? In a near-tie between East and West, close to 56 percent named the United States while 53 percent named Russia.

Therein lies the deeper tension. On the one hand, Germans are disappointed by the Americans and their unceasing surveillance activities. At the same time, they have demonstrated a surprising level of sympathy for the Russians and their president, Vladimir Putin, in the Ukraine crisis. This raises the fundamental question of Germany’s national identity. In the long run, Germans will have to decide which side they prefer.

In the 25 years since the fall of the Berlin Wall, the issue had become less of a priority because the contrast between East and West, and the polarization between the United States and Russia, seemed to have been eliminated. Germany didn’t have to choose sides because there was no real dividing line. But the Ukraine crisis and the NSA scandal have put an end to this comfortable phase, and now that antagonism between the West and Russia has erupted once again, Germany can no longer avoid the question of which side it supports.

According to a SPIEGEL poll, 57 percent of Germans feel that their country should become more independent of the United States when it comes to foreign policy. Uncomfortable questions are also being raised, including whether Berlin’s close relationship with the West was merely a transitional phenomenon.

Embassies Reflect a Nation’s Image

If embassy buildings are meant to project the psyche of a nation, the US Embassy in Berlin is an effective symbol. The exterior consists of an inviting light-colored sandstone structure with an American flag flying above the entrance’s curved glass roof. At second glance, however, the building at Pariser Platz 2 also resembles a fortress protected by barriers, surveillance cameras and bullet-proof glass.

Ambassador Emerson’s office is on the fifth floor. Visitors are required to leave their mobile phones in the reception area downstairs and must then pass through three security checkpoints. Even Emerson’s press secretary has to deposit her cell phone in a small wooden box before entering the ambassador’s floor. His office is secured with a steel door, and the glass windows looking out on Tiergarten Park and Brandenburg Gate are so thick that they would probably withstand a nuclear strike.

Emerson’s ebullience stands in stark contrast to the security paranoia surrounding him. He is a jovial former attorney and investment banker from Chicago, who raised millions of dollars for Obama’s election campaigns and now, at the end of his career, has been given an attractive ambassadorship in Europe. Emerson, like many of his predecessors, hardly speaks a word of German.

For many years, this wasn’t an issue. American ambassadors in the past had no need to vie for the affections of Germans, because it was a matter of course. Konrad Adenauer, the country’s first postwar chancellor, opted for the young republic’s integration into the West, which culminated in West Germany’s accession to NATO in 1955.

As a result of Adenauer’s decision, the question of which side Germany belonged to remained off the table for decades. Even after German reunification in 1990, which then US President George Bush passionately supported, the German-American partnership was not fundamentally questioned.

A Sea-Change in Relations

The presidency of George W. Bush was a turning point in the Germans’ relationship with America. When then Chancellor Gerhard Schröder (SPD) openly opposed the White House’s decision to invade Iraq twelve years ago, it marked a sea change. Bush justified the Iraq war with a lie and cemented the image of a superpower that believes it is no longer required to abide by rules and laws.

Emerson is not in an easy position. His predecessor had to grapple with the WikiLeaks scandal, in which American embassy cables describing senior German politicians in less than flattering terms were leaked to the public. The excitement had just subsided when it was revealed that the NSA was listening in on Merkel’s mobile phone. At the time, Emerson had only been in his position in Berlin for a few weeks.

During a visit in late May, Emerson had no illusions about the public mood in Germany. Anti-Americanism is not a new phenomenon — many of those who demonstrated against the Vietnam War in the late 1960s or NATO’s 1970s missile policy weren’t only motivated by a desire for peace. Even back then, members of the German left were determined to send a message opposing the evil empire across the Atlantic. “I’m afraid of your fantasies and your ambition, America, oh America,” German musician Herbert Grönemeyer sang on his album “Bochum,” released in 1984. His words captured the mood of an entire generation.

This time there is more at play than the usual resentments, given all that has happened in recent years: the Iraq war, Guantanamo, the use of drones for targeted executions, the financial crisis, the NSA and fears of Google. The Germans feel they have every reason to mistrust the United States, an erstwhile friend whom many now see as sinister.

Part 2: FAILED HOPES FOR OBAMA

For a time, it seemed as if Obama could close the divide between the two nations. For Germans, he was the presidential candidate they had always wished for: powerfully eloquent and charismatic, sophisticated and not nearly as ordinary and rough around the edges as George W. Bush, the trigger-happy cowboy from Texas.

But to the Germans’ chagrin, Obama didn’t transform the White House into the United Nations headquarters, not even when he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in a rush of euphoria only 11 months after his inauguration in 2009. He neither closed Guantanamo nor eliminated the death penalty. And instead of American Special Forces killing foreigners, drone pilots in air-conditioned barracks were checking off names on execution lists signed by Obama.

During an interview in his heavily secured office, Ambassador Emerson says he comes from the financial industry, an industry in which a rule applies that is also valid in politics: “Satisfaction is expectations minus results.” Emerson’s apparent implication is that Obama was already fighting a losing battle when he came into office — the Germans’ expectations were simply too high.

Emerson doesn’t deny that a few things have gone wrong in recent years. But at the end of the day, he adds, the decision to maintain close ties between Germany and the West should be obvious. Which country has a free press? The United States or Russia? Which president takes a stand and is willing to discuss the limits of intelligence activity with the entire country? Obama or Putin? “We share the same values,” Emerson says, and that must be emphasized again and again.

The Last Straw?

This may be true in theory, but in practice Europe and America are drifting farther and farther apart. This is even evident to people like Friedrich Merz, whose job description includes keeping the divide as narrow as possible. Merz is the chairman of the Atlantic Bridge, a group that has promoted friendship between Germany and the United States for more than 50 years. At the moment, Merz is busy promoting the trans-Atlantic free trade agreement. “The agreement would be a sign that Western democracies are sticking together,” he says.

But even a conservative advocate of the market economy like Merz is often baffled by what is happening in the United States. Merz welcomes all forms of political debate, but when he sees how deep the ideological divides are in the United States, he is pleased over Europe’s well-tempered form of democracy. Responding to the new spying allegations last Friday, he said: “If this turns out to be true, it’s time for this to stop.”

America Has Become Unattractive

To put it differently, it has become uncool to view America as a cool place. Only a few years ago, for example, the post of head of the German-US Parliamentary Friendship Group in the Bundestag was a highly coveted one, filled by such respectable politicians as former Hamburg Mayor Hans-Ulrich Klose. Today it is less desirable. After the most recent parliamentary election, Philipp Missfelder, the head of the youth organization of Germany’s conservative sister parties, the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and Bavaria’s Christian Social Union (CSU), decided to resign from his post Coordinator of Trans-Atlantic Cooperation and assume the position of CDU treasurer in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia instead. For Missfelder, managing party finances took a priority over a once attractive trans-Atlantic post.

He was eventually succeeded by Jürgen Hardt, an affable man who has had little contact with the United States in the past: Before becoming a member of the German parliament, the Bundestag, in 2009, he was head of corporate communications for vacuum cleaner-maker Vorwerk. At least he has experience selling relatively unglamorous products.

Hardt plans to launch a marketing offensive in the United States soon. “I’m still searching for a way to reach as many people as possible,” he says. He envisions interviews in American regional newspapers to promote the trans-Atlantic alliance, in an echo of Adenauer’s decision to announce Germany’s willingness to engage in rearmament in the Cleveland Plain Dealer rather than the Washington Post. After that, Hardt intends to embark on a marketing tour across the United States.

Do Germans Suffer from an Excess Dose of Morality?

It’s a necessary effort. Many Americans view the Germans the way parents treat an adult son who still lives at home and is reluctant to venture out into the harsh, real world.

The United States bore the largest burden in the Afghanistan war, it must rein in rising superpower China and it accounts for more than 70 percent of the military spending of all NATO countries. The glaring paradox of West Germany’s former pacifism was that it was only made possible by the American nuclear umbrella. Now that the Cold War is over, the United States would have no objection to the Europeans taking on greater responsibilities, at least in their own neighborhood.

But this is precisely where the problem begins, at least according to Gary Smith, head of the American Academy in Berlin. Smith, who has lived in Germany for more than 20 years, feels that Germans suffer from one thing above all: an excess dose of morality. He can certainly understand why Germans are upset over the NSA spying on Merkel’s mobile phone, he says. On the other hand, he adds, the United States is the only democratic world power, and it faces rivals like China and Russia, which have few scruples when deploying their intelligence agencies. “The Germans are completely obsessed with Merkel’s mobile phone, but they don’t see the big picture,” says Smith.

This is what the big picture looks like for Smith: On the one hand, the Germans are always quick to criticize the minute the Americans apply their military muscle or give their NSA technologists their marching orders. On the other hand, they have a tendency to back off when the situation becomes serious on the global political stage, most recently during the West’s military mission in Libya. And who, Smith asks, is expected to stop Putin if he feels the urge, once again, to swallow up parts of other countries?

Germans ‘Closer To Russian’ Than any other Europeans

Unlike the Americans’ fortress, the Russian Embassy embodies a nation filled with longing: longing for greatness, longing to be respected and admired and longing to impress and please others. But it has no apparent need for security.

Anyone arriving at the Russian Embassy for an appointment merely has to press a doorbell and state his or her name. Then a buzzer rings, the door opens and the visitor is allowed to enter the building. There is no identification check, bags are not inspected and there are no security checkpoints. Visitors are not asked to leave their mobile phones, recording devices and pocketknives at the front desk. Security checks could be interpreted as a sign of mistrust of visitors — and that would be impolite.

The interior is spacious, vast and empty, like Russia. A female staff member accompanies visitors up an enormous black marble staircase, which, as she explains, Finnish Marshall Carl Gustaf Mannheim gave Hitler to be used in a victory monument in Moscow. Sound reverberates in the Cathedral-like domed hall, where daylight faintly filters through a glass mosaic depicting the Spasskaya Tower of the Kremlin. Everything is oversized and slightly gloomy, the kind of architecture that gives the visitor the sense of being in the midst of a religious service.

Ambassador Vladimir Mikhailovich Grinin walks out to meet his guests through a gigantic banquet room. The rooms are furnished in precious wood, heavy materials and splendid chandeliers — old-fashioned but tasteful.

Grinin greets his guests in polished German — the only sign that it isn’t his first language is a slight Russian accent. He embodies the close relationship between Germany and Russia, which he invokes during our conversation. Grinin’s father and father-in-law fought on the front during World War II. This is his third diplomatic posting in Germany. He was in Bonn in the 1970s and in East Berlin during the period surrounding the fall of the Berlin Wall. He is very familiar with Germany and has kept a close eye on today’s top politicians, in some cases for decades. “The Germans,” he says, “are closer to the Russians than any other nation in Europe.”

For the Russian ambassador, there is no contradiction between East and West. He views the relationship between Russia and the West as a triangle consisting of the United States, Russia and the European Union. And the EU, he says, consists mainly of Germany. “It would be good if the Germans would use their special situation to achieve greater understanding within the triangle,” says Grinin. Germany, which understands both the Russians and the Americans better than anyone else, should play the role of an intermediary, so as to ensure “that everyone can find a common language.”

‘Never Another War against Russia’

During his chancellorship, Gerhard Schröder saw this as Germany’s destiny. He believed that the country’s geographic location in the heart of Europe gave it a special responsibility. “Germany, as a country in the middle of Europe, was always on both sides; it was always its task to overcome Europe’s civilizational tension,” says political scientist Herfried Münkler.

For many Germans, the close relationship with Russia that Ambassador Grinin invokes is part of an identity that has developed over time — and not just in the eastern part of the country. The phrase “never another war” has become part of German DNA. But there is also another version of the phrase: “Never another war against Russia.” But Germans’ unique understanding of Russia doesn’t merely stem from radical pacifism and Germany’s post-1945 aversion to conflict.

Russendisko, or “Russian Disco,” a dance club held in Berlin’s Mitte district for the last 15 years, is usually an indulgent event where the alcohol flows freely. Its founder, best-selling author Vladimir Kaminer, who writes humorous books about Germany written from a foreigner’s perspective, is eating a salad with goat meat and says that Russia has always been a dream for the Germans.

He quotes German historian Karl Schlögel, who said: “Germans see spirituality in the Siberian landscape,” and notes that there is something to Schlögel’s words. Why, Kaminer asks with a smile, do German television networks always broadcast major stories from Siberia every year after Christmas? According to Kaminer, no other country in the world offers as much TV coverage of Siberia as Germany.

Kaminer came to Berlin from Moscow in 1990, at the age of 23, and stayed. One of the reasons his books are so popular is that he is so adept at getting to the heart of the German-Russian relationship. Although his prose seems almost childishly clumsy, it is far cleverer and trenchant than many academic treatises.

“For the Germans, the United States is the evil father who ought to be slugged in the face. Russia, on the other hand, is like a little brother to the Germans, one that has to be coddled.”

The Germans and the Russians, says Kaminer, are “all sitting in the same kitchen. We have a shared history and we have made serious mistakes repeatedly.” He points out that Czar Peter the Great asked the Germans to help Russia modernize. “Germany and Russia, as neighbors of sorts, will always be dependent on one another.”

He has always benefited from the Germans’ affection for the Russians, says Kaminer. In addition to his traditional monthly Russendisko in Berlin, he also takes the event to other German cities. He has wanted to give up his role as party host for a long time. “I simply can’t listen to the music anymore,” says Kaminer. “But the Germans happen to like it.” They love these evenings, when the vodka flows, the polkas are loud, the dancing is more exuberant than at other parties and the kissing is less inhibited.

Kaminer believes that the pedantic Germans, who are always thinking of the future, have an underlying yearning for the Russian present, for the art of forgetting tomorrow, and for the wild and unruly character of his fellow Russians. “At Russendisko, you don’t need insurance to get up onto the tables,” says Kaminer.

Part 3: GERMANS DIVIDED OVER RUSSIA

In recent years, it’s been easy to believe in a good Russia. There was no reason to be fearful: Germany was grateful for unification, economic ties expanded, and it seemed as though Moscow was being incorporated into Western structures through the G-8 and the NATO-Russia Council. And despite various difficulties, Russia appeared on the path to a democratic future. Many believed that divisions within Europe had been overcome.

But the Ukraine crisis has called everything into question. “Currently, Russia is not a partner,” German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen recently told SPIEGEL. Now Berlin finds itself having to build bridges to a Russia that is increasingly the source of anti-Western and nationalist rhetoric, is intolerant of national, religious and sexual minorities and is motivated by the desire to regain its former significance.

Germans are divided over their relationship with Russia. Those who have always mistrusted Russia now feel fully vindicated, while those who have advocated sympathy for Russian positions are now calling for even greater understanding. In the SPIEGEL poll, three-quarters of Germans indicate it is “more likely” their trust in Russia has “declined.” Nevertheless, some 40 percent of respondents said that they would like to see Germany cooperate more closely with Russia in the future.

Graphic: SPIEGEL Poll on Foreign Relations

For German foreign policy, which has prided itself on a special closeness with Russia, Moscow has become unpredictable. No one knows what Putin’s true intentions are. Is he trying to prevent NATO and the EU from expanding farther eastward? Or does he want to rebuild the Soviet Union, the decline of which he once described as “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century?”

This difficult new Russia was on display in Berlin in mid-May, when Russian official and Putin confidant Vladimir Yakunin attended a meeting of the German-Russian Forum, a lobbying organization similar to the Atlantic Bridge.

The event was titled “Europe: Lost in Translation?” Yakunin, a tall, bulky man with a large, bulky head, portrayed himself as a representative of the new Russian nationalism. “I am Russian,” his speech began, “and I’m proud of it.” But the kind of Western values he wants Russia and Europe to share aren’t the kind that most people in enlightened Christian societies would like to see: anti-Americanism, homophobia and narrow-mindedness.

“The Americans don’t even know where Crimea is,” he scoffed, calling upon the Europeans to join Russian in a common fight against “totalitarian liberalism.” “The essence of democracy,” said Yakunin, in a reference to the Eurovision Song Contest and its 2014 winner, Austrian singer and drag persona Conchita Wurst, “is not bearded women, but the rule of the people.”

Can Russia be democratic? This question always remains in the background when Germany considers its relationship with Moscow. Hardly any statement in recent years has attracted more attention and notoriety than former Chancellor Schröder’s characterization of Putin as a “flawless democrat,” seemingly denying his authoritarian tendencies. Pro-Russian Germans are also often seen as having authoritarian tendencies. In a SPIEGEL essay, historian Heinrich August Winkler even accused them of being intellectually akin to the Nazis and their propaganda chief, Joseph Goebbels.

This is flat-out wrong. Germany can be the country that understands Russia better than others without jeopardizing its establishment in the West. It is not a question of having to maintain equidistance to both the West and Russia, and certainly not one of democracy versus autocracy. Embracing a policy that arises from Germany’s central geographic location is not the same as embracing a central ideological position.

Sociologist and philosopher Jürgen Habermas recently warned that Germany is slipping back into a “highly dangerous, semi-hegemonic position.” But his concerns aren’t justified. Germany no longer has to be afraid of itself. According to international polls, many now view Germany as world’s most popular country. The calls for Germany to assume more responsibility are nearly unanimous abroad. During the euro crisis, Germany assumed a greater burden in fiscal and economic policy, and, like any leading power, was attacked for doing so. This simply comes with the territory.

Extracting itself from the Western alliance is not an option for Germany. NATO membership has brought Germany more than half a century of security and peace, and three-quarters of Germans are convinced that it is still necessary now that Cold War is over. The overwhelming majority of Germans do not question their country’s ties to the West.

A Special Role for Germany

Still, Germany can make itself more independent of the United States. Schröder’s refusal to become involved in the Iraq war was the right decision — it was a signal that Germany, while remaining true to its alliances, is not willing to participate in a deluded policy based on lies that, as is evident today, has plunged an entire region into chaos. Obama has abandoned Bush’s war policy, but not his intelligence-gathering methods.

Merkel could make it unmistakably clear to the United States that she is not willing to accept the NSA’s machinations. So far, the chancellor’s mild admonitions have not made an impression on Obama, as the latest spy scandal apparently indicates. This is why it would be correct to grant asylum to whistleblower Edward Snowden.

Of course, this comes with a price. It will mean that relations with Washington will become very frosty for a while. But Germany can only credibly criticize Putin’s policies if it points to the flaws in the Western alliance. At the moment, German sympathy for Putin is partly derived from the sense that the United States isn’t much better, and that it is prepared to violate international law if it happens to further its political ends.

Germany has spread its wings in the last 20 years. It can no longer hide behind others. Instead, Germany can lead Europe to an independent political role. It must offer an outlook to Russia in its yearning to become part of the West. But it must also set clear boundaries if Moscow reintroduces violence as a political tool and threatens allies. For America, a Germany that assumes this role may not be a convenient partner, but in the end, may be a source of relief.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/as-us-scandals-grow-germans-seek-greater-political-independence-a-979695.html

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The Sympathy Problem: Is Germany a Country of Russia Apologists?

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/prominent-germans-have-understanding-for-russian-annexation-of-crimea-a-961711.html

 

Herbert Grönemeyer – Amerika

 

The main article above mentions this song. Herbert Grönemeyer is one of Germany’s most successful rock stars, having sold over 18 million albums worldwide. Before turning to music he first became a prominent actor in his native Germany via his role as Lieutenant Werner in the acclaimed 1981 film “Das Boot,”.

Translation:

America

You’re coming to rescue in every emergency
Showing your sheriff star to the world
Sending saddle trucks through the night
Getting into position, America

Oh America, you’ve done a lot for us
Oh America, don’t do that to us

You’ve sent many care-packages to us
Today it’s rockets, America
You’ve got so much more space than we do
Why are they here, America

Oh America, you’ve done a lot for us
Oh America, don’t do that to us
Oh America, if you simply can’t help it
Oh America, then fight if you have to fight in your own country

You always want to be better at everything
Bigger, faster, wider, America
I’m frightened of your fantasy
Of your ambition, America

Oh America, you’ve done a lot for us
Oh America, don’t do that to us
Oh America, if you simply can’t help it
Oh America, then fight if you have to fight in your own country

Invite Russia to you finally
Get an agreement to run down weapons, America
Or shoot each other on the moon
Beat each other up there, it’s uninhabited

Oh America, you’ve done a lot for us
Oh America, don’t do that to us
Oh America, if you simply can’t help it
Oh America, then fight if you have to fight in your own country

Author: Stucky

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Tommy
Tommy
July 15, 2014 3:32 pm

We’re fooked. Like an old gray aging hollywood star riding yesterday’s momentum for just.one.more.day. I agree Stucky, we’ll have nobody on our side, in our corner – and I’ll go further, if they’re not out to harm us directly, they’ll all want a front row seat to watch the show. Like a gladiator movie where the lilly soft emperor is thrown into the ring – everybody sorta perks up.

overthecliff
overthecliff
July 15, 2014 6:20 pm

HNIC hasn`t read about the issues concerning Germany . He always finds out about problems in the paper. That being said Germany needs to stand up grow a real military and stop hiding behind the US skirts . They can`t have their cake and eat it to. If they want to be treated like a real world power they have to act like one.

SSS
SSS
July 15, 2014 6:47 pm

@ Stucky, who said, “America sends a Wallstreetfuk who doesn’t speak a word of German, and doesn’t understand the German people.”

The U.S. has come a long way from sending political heavyweights to serve as ambassadors to foreign nations. Now it’s incompetent fools who are being repaid for their monetary largesse to the current occupant of the White House. Here ……..

Seven U.S. Presidents previously served as Ambassadors: John Adams – The Netherlands (1782-88), United Kingdom (1785-88); John Quincy Adams – The Netherlands (1794-97), Prussia (1797-1801), Russia (1809-14), United Kingdom (1814-17); James Buchanan – Russia (1831-32), United Kingdom (1853-56); George H. W. Bush – United Nations (1971-73), China (1974-75); Thomas Jefferson – France (1785-89); James Monroe – France (1794-96), United Kingdom (1803-08); Martin Van Buren – United Kingdom (1831-32).

And there’s also people like Mike Mansfield (D-MT), retired Senate Majority Leader, who later served as ambassador to Japan. He spoke fluent Japanese and was a HUGE hit in that country.

Now, it’s “How much money did you raise for my campaign?” The winner gets the Court of St, James. Disgraceful.

SSS
SSS
July 15, 2014 7:04 pm

Stucky

I agree with overthecliff. We need to dial back our military presence in Europe, especially Germany and Great Britain. Italy, not so much. Look at a map.

I don’t understand your strong disagreement with overthecliff. Please enlighten us.

Desertrat
Desertrat
July 15, 2014 7:28 pm

Against whom would Germany need a large army?

Snippets from the article: The US has a free press? A truly functional democracy? Really?

Putin regards the expansion of NATO exactly as did JFK about Soviet missiles in Cuba, We’ve spent $5 billion suborning the government of Ukraine. So, who has the moral high ground?

We’re supporting this present regime of neo-Nazis in Ukraine who are shelling civilian targets, spoken of in approval by our State Department. The ideals of Nurnberg are “no longer operative”, apparently.

Were I German, I’d think that a supply of natural gas was better than Obama’s false promises.

overthecliff
overthecliff
July 15, 2014 9:08 pm

Screw the krauts. if they want to be treated like a big boy,let them grow a pair. My point is I don`t give a shit what they do as long as I don`t have to listen to them whine.

SSS
SSS
July 15, 2014 10:34 pm

Stucky

Overthecliff’s disdain for Germans aside (fyi, my paternal heritage is from northern, German-speaking Switzerland), Germany has enjoyed nearly 70 years of U.S. defense patronage and has benefitted enormously. That’s enough. Punto! End of argument.

The nation that we love to hate, France, has the best armed forces on the European continent. De Gaulle kicked our ass out of France in 19Fucking64, 50 years ago, with the message, “Thanks for your help, but we’ll take it from here.” And they did. French pride and arrogance does have its benefits, doesn’t it?

Time that Germany did the same thing. Or, best case, we can just bilaterally agree to our withdrawal, shake hands, and come home.

llpoh
llpoh
July 15, 2014 10:36 pm

Hey! there are a couple more possible names for the Washington football team – The Washington Krauts or the Washington Dirty Nazis! Nothing offensive about those names, either, right Stuck?!!

RE the Krauts, er Germans, what they should be doing is screaming their collective asses off to get their gold back. If I were them I would be raising a monumental stink over that and would be taking every legal action known to man to get the gold back. But nary a peep is heard fro them re that little issue.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
July 16, 2014 12:02 am

Gold? What gold?

AKA Chen
AKA Chen
July 16, 2014 12:45 am

Stucky says:

“Snippets…”

Speaking of which, did you hear – the god of lightning – as bb calls him, is a chick, nothing but smooth translucent blonde pubes down there, according to Marvel comics. Check you package, dude.

Visitor from Germany
Visitor from Germany
July 16, 2014 5:10 am

@Stucky

“2—- A country that was responsible for two World Wars …. do you REALLY want them to become re-militarized? Really?? ” – a lone Voice of Reason. Thank you.

@overthecliff

“Yoda: Help you I can. Yes, mmmm.

Luke: I don’t think so. I’m looking for a great warrior.

Yoda: Ohhh. Great warrior… [laughs and shakes his head] …wars not make one great. ”

– qed

Billy
Billy
July 16, 2014 8:18 am

@ Llpoh,

You, me, the Germans, hell – everyone – knows that The Red Shield has absconded with Germany’s gold. If you recall, the Germans did start making a stink about getting their gold back – and it started getting traction in the press. What I think happened (and I have no way to back any of this up – just a personal theory) is that The Red Shield sent someone to speak to the Germans.

Stop and think for a moment. Germany wants their gold. Red Shield says “no”. Germans make a stink about it. The press picks it up – it’s an interesting story. Red Shield realizes their chicanery with other people’s gold will be trumpeted from the rooftops if the Germans keep making a stink. So, they send someone to “have a talk” with the Germans.

If the truth is revealed that Red Shield fucked with Germany’s gold, then others will start wondering “Hey, I wonder if our gold is still there?”. Maybe a run to get all the gold back, and because it ain’t there, it will destabilize a whole mess of shit – diplomatic relations, various economies, trade, balance of power.. maybe even rumbles of war.

I know if someone was supposed to be “keeping an eye” on my giant pile of gold and they blew it on whiskey and hookers or just stole it, I would be fucking MAD AS HELL! Maybe mad enough to start shooting.

So, I think Red Shield told the Germans to STFU and take one for the team… for now. The Germans are nothing if not practical. Yeah, they could continue to make a stink, but the fallout of all that would be… unpleasant. So, they’re hunkering down in the Black Forest, sucking down Weitzen and biding their time…

As far as the Germans up-arming… well, so?

@ Stucky,

We could debate whether the Germans were and are responsible for “Two World Wars”… and I feel confident the facts are on my side.

Gavrilo Princip: “DIE BITCH!”

Archduke Ferdinand: “What da fu- ACK!”

Austria-Hungary: “Hey Serbs. Not cool. Here’s an ultimatum.”

Serbs: “Even more not cool. Fuck off.”

Austria-Hungary: “Here, have some bombs.”

Serbs: “Shi- ACK!”

Russia: “Hey, don’t fuck with the Serbs.”

Austria-Hungary: “Mind your own business and STFU.”

Russia: “Okay, it’s war then. Have some bombs.”

Austria-Hungary: “Shi – ACK!.”

Germany: “Whoa, hey. You fuck with the Austrians for fucking with the Serbs, then we fuck with you.”

Russia: “Fine, fuck you too. What ya got, bitch?”

Germany: “Here, have some bombs.”

Russia: “Shi- ACK!”

———

I could go on, but you get the idea… however, according to Stucky, Germany is “responsible” for WWI.

Erm… okay?

The Herms have been everyone’s favorite whipping boy for decades. Everyone bitches that they’re riding our coat-tails and should go it alone. But when they say they’ll go it alone and up-arm, everyone gets butthurt. Hypocrite much?

Fucking North Korea and the Red Chinese are way more of a threat to everyone than Germany is, and we’re either kissing their asses or ignoring them… for that matter MEXICO is more of a threat to us than Germany, and we’re totally sucking their dick…

Need to get y’all’s priorities straight…

TPC
TPC
July 16, 2014 1:11 pm

Strategically, it makes the most sense for Germany to sever close military ties with the US. For both countries.

Its massively expensive for the US to maintain such a ridiculous number of bases overseas, and Germany has been reunited for over 20 years now. They are a strong nation, they can afford to protect their own sovereignty.

overthecliff
overthecliff
July 16, 2014 1:31 pm

Damn Stuck I didn`t realize you were so sensitive to slurs!

Billy
Billy
July 16, 2014 1:44 pm

I struggled with that sentence even as I wrote it. All I can say in my defense is that “responsible” is not the same as “caused”.

It’s like two kids beating the shit out of each other in a schoolyard fight. They are both responsible as they are both partaking in the conflict …. but, it is likely that just one was mostly the cause. That’s probably a poor analogy, but I think you understand my meaning. — Herr Stucky…

Holy shit… you needed a tunneling electron microscope to parse that down that fine? Heh, heh.. 🙂

Kid 1 picks a fight with Kid 2, who is minding his own business. Kid 1 initiates hostilities. Kid 2 defends himself. Every critter on earth has the right to defend itself when confronted with hostilities.

But they’re BOTH RESPONSIBLE? Wow… that’s some reasoning there… sounds like that “Zero Tolerance” nonsense at a lot of schools these days.

Here’s an anecdote. I saw this with my own eyes, so it’s not some bullshit “story”.

When my son was younger, he was taking martial arts classes as well as me teaching him some basic stuff about how to defend oneself.

One day he’s getting off the bus at the bus stop. I see him get off the bus and start walking home. I’m about 100 yards away. Some fucking kid gets off the bus behind my son, runs up behind him and sucker punches him from behind. NOT cool!

My son staggers, then turns around and starts beating the shit out of this kid. It was so epic, the kid who sucker punched my boy was trying to hide behind his book bag to escape that wrath my boy was laying down on him.

Then, this Sheriff’s Deputy runs up – he was out of my line of sight, so I didn’t see him at first. I get there a few seconds later. Tell Deputy Dawg I’m my boy’s father. He looks at me and says “You’re boy’s good to go. I seen the whole thing. He righteously defended himself.”

The other kid – the sucker punching shitbag – he held RESPONSIBLE for everything and, because it happened at a bus stop, technically it was on school property – so the kid got double nuked.

My boy walked home with me and his well-earned battle scars, proud as hell.

He looks at me and says “You said chicks dig scars. Is that true?”

If you CAUSED something to happen, my dear friend Stucky, then you are RESPONSIBLE. I’m not going to refight all of WWI, but I will say that there ain’t no way in HELL Germany is “responsible” for it…

GilbertS
GilbertS
July 16, 2014 2:50 pm

Whatever. We don’t need allies. We can print allies. We can manufacture consent. We can print up a few trillion Euros and let the Ukraine have em’. We can destabilize you if you oppose us. So shut up and vote our way or we’ll do to you what we did to Libya…

Visitor from Germany
Visitor from Germany
July 16, 2014 2:56 pm

@Billy

– just 1 question – might it be, that your first name is “Hill”?

Just asking.

btw – never heard an explanation about the origin of WWI which was as devoid of facts as yours.

@Stucky

“Every country has the right, and duty, to be able to protect its own borders. ”

Now, here we agree 100%…let’s see…Germanys borders…Denmark? Belgium? The Netherlands? Luxemburg? Do we really have to discuss those? We could send in the Berlin City Police Force to mount a fullscale Invasion, not even talk about warding one OFF!

Further – Austria? Switzerland? Tchechya? Alright – add the Munich Police Force to the Berlin Police Force, and any Invasion Plans from them would be thwarted as well…

…which leaves…Poland? Please…don’t make me laugh, will you?

And then…oh, well…France and Britain…and of course, since Poland (which has been divided between Germany and Russia…how often? 5 Times in 300 years?) is not to be reconned with – Russia. Of course.

All of those 3 are Nuclear Powers…

…now…following your advice about being able to secure our own borders – would you, or anyone else for that matter, really accept that Germany obtains our own nukes?

Just think! about it for a moment…think about our cars, machines, everything else…and then imagine what would result of applying our usual perfection onto those…

…most probably they would be recyclable, environment-friendly and climate-neutral…and 10times as effective as all already existing, of course (hey, just joking ;))

No. You don’t want THAT!

WE don’t want THAT!

Never.

EITHER there ARE other ways – for ALL of us.

OR mankind is DOOMED – it is as easy as this, nowadays.

“Yoda: Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is.”

TPC
TPC
July 16, 2014 3:06 pm

@GilbertS – We don’t need allies, we just need other countries’ people to buy our manufactured goods.

Start bringing American businesses back to America, invest in education, and infrastructure, and we won’t have to wage war for wealth anymore because people will be throwing that shit at us.

The only reason people buy India or Chinese products is due to super low cost, its shit and we all know it. From an invention and IP standpoint these countries can only rip off America/EU companies, they can’t innovate for shit. Even Japan isn’t that great at innovation and instead just focuses on perfecting existing technology.

I’m not advocating isolationism (we need to sell to somebody after all) but this bullshit of the global police is going to stop.

Enough Army to defend our country, the Navy and Marines to keep the high seas safe for American merchants, and an Air force to keep shit off of our door step.

Thats all we need.

I might make an exception for Canada and Mexico as far as “no allies” but thats about it.

Billy
Billy
July 16, 2014 4:30 pm

Liebe blöder arshloch von Deutschland…

Dumbshit, if I wanted to write an entire book on the socio-political causations of World War 1, I would publish it, make millions on royalties and you’d never fucking see or hear from me again because I’d be living it up somewhere you are not…

I know you’re fairly new and have a hard time reading, so I’ll write slowly…

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY, YOU DUMBFUCK. “Devoid of facts”… what a tight ass. As much as you’d like me to go into an explanation of the causations of WWI, I refuse to be suckered into a stupid argument over nothing and instead will focus on the facts. Of which, are:

A) You’re a stuck-up tight ass. Not a Swabian are you? Probably from way up north. Yeah, you fucks think your shit don’t stink…

B) Anyone who bases their personal philosophy on the utterings of a puppet in a space movie made in 1977 deserves to get their ass kicked…

C) Why anyone would listen to a person who lives their lives according to the teachings of a make-believe puppet from a space movie made in 1977 is completely beyond me. Perhaps there are those who are so pig-ignorant, they would believe you…

D) “I live here, so I’m an expert on all things German” is bullshit. It is entirely possible for someone to live their whole lives in Germany and not know shit. This won’t stop them from being an insufferable asshole, though.

Have a nice fucking day…

Billy
Billy
July 16, 2014 4:44 pm

@ Stucky,

My dear friend Öschi…

See? This is exactly what I’m talking about. Family is German, I married a Schwäbisch girl, son a dual national, lived there for years, studied history… all that shit doesn’t matter.

Fucking Herms have their Sense of Humor surgically removed at birth. Sometimes it grows back, but most times not… like Pommes Fritz from Deutschland there… dude has no sense of humor at all. Just a humorless stuck-up tightassed prig…

At least the Schwabs and Bavarians have a decent sense of humor… of course, quoting Yoda and expecting us to take him seriously is fucking hilarious, but I doubt he sees the ironic humor in that, either..

Billy
Billy
July 16, 2014 5:03 pm

“There are people who say Germany is the sole cause for WW1. I am not in that camp. There were many causes. On the extreme other side of the fence are those who say Germany in no way caused WWI. I’m not in that camp either. The truth is somewhere between those two extremes. But, regardless of the cause, or causes, Germany bears at least some responsibility for being involved ….just like the “innocent” Kid 2 above. ” — Stucky der Öschi…

Probably got the article wrong (der, die, das), but that shit was always a mystery to me anyways…

Using that reasoning, England, France, Russia, Italy, United States, etc, etc, all bear the same amount of responsibility as Germany does. But, because Germany was the most powerful of the losers, it caught sole and complete blame for WWI. Which is fucked up. They weren’t even invited to the table when the Treaty was drawn up. Double fucked up.

THEN, all these sanctions are laid against the Germans – Triple fucked up – requiring them to pay for everything, even though – according to your logic – everyone was responsible. Not only was paying for all that impossible, but using the blame for WWI as a club to beat the Germans over the head, they were forbidden anything but a tiny toy military that was only useful for getting their asses kicked…

All of which set the stage for WWII. But hey, don’t let personal responsibility get in the way. If the Allies wouldn’t have humiliated Germany with that Treaty (which looks like it was written on a cocktail napkin during a drunken bender by the Brits, French and Americans), then there would have BEEN NO WWII… no reason for anyone to put their faith in Uncle Adolph in the first place and him and his little Beer Putsch would have been just a footnote in a history book somewhere…

No WWII, no Berlin Airlift, no Cold War, etc…

And it all started with some dickhead Serb named Gavrilo Princip and his anarchist asshole friends…

Billy
Billy
July 16, 2014 5:12 pm

Stucky,

Yeah, maybe I was too hard on the little squarehead… dude just rubbed me the wrong way is all…

Okay, I’ll back off. Give the little wienerschnitzel some room… who knows? Maybe we’ll end up friends…

Oh yeah, here..

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Bostonbob
Bostonbob
July 16, 2014 5:13 pm

Actually I would like to see the Germans arm up. They have a tendency to make really cool advanced stuff. I would have to think they would advance weaponry decades in a far shorter period of time than the US military industrial complex who really have only one thing in mind, how to squeeze more contracts out of the government. They don’t want any project to really finish. $12.8 billion on as air craft carrier that from conception to actually joining the fleet was 11 years. Oh and don’t forget to add in $4.7 billion for R & D.

“.As of 2013, construction costs are estimated at $12.8 billion, 22% over the 2008 budget, plus $4.7 billion in research and development costs. Because of budget difficulties, the Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Jonathan Greenert, has warned there may be a two year delay beyond 2016 in completing Gerald R. Ford.[1″

The keel of Gerald R. Ford was laid down on 13 November 2009.[2] Construction began on 11 August 2005, when Northrop Grumman held a ceremonial steel cut for a 15-ton plate that forms part of a side shell unit of the carrier. She was christened on 9 November 2013.[1] The schedule calls for the ship to join the U.S. Navy’s fleet in 2016. Gerald R. Ford will enter the fleet replacing the inactive USS Enterprise (CVN-65), which ended her 51 years of active service in December 2012.[7][8]”

Bob.

Bostonbob
Bostonbob
July 16, 2014 5:20 pm

Sorry that is the USS Gerald Ford:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Ford_class_aircraft_carrier

It would probably take the Germans a quarter of the time to build at half the cost and it would go twice as fast, breaking down or needing service less than a third as often. No one ever asks why a BMW is so much better in quality than a Cadillac, they just know.

Bob.

GilbertS
GilbertS
July 17, 2014 8:06 am

You guys know we won’t leave Germany or Europe in general, because we need cushy comfort castle places to send officers to hang out, right?

The bases in Afghanistan and the other mustache-i-stans around Central Asia won’t be there forever, and they’re kind of risky and small and unpleasant, but Europe is just the place to slot Os for easy career builder jobs or those coasting-to-retirement positions.

And there’s NATO there, too. We can’t leave Europe-who would tell NATO what to do?

All those very important perfumed princes at NATO require lots of junior Os and NCOs to support them, which requires a massive infrastructure of bases, clubs, restaurants, dependent housing, airfields, fuel depots, car lots, churches, movie theaters, golf courses, hotels, uniform shops, and Class 6s to support them.

We need more troops to guard all that stuff, which requires more infrastructure of bases, clubs, restaurants, dependent housing, airfields, fuel depots, car lots, churches, movie theaters, golf courses, hotels, uniform shops, and Class 6s to support them, too.

If we’re going to have all those troops at NATO and all those other troops guarding them and all that infrastructure, we’re going to need more troops in neighboring regions to support them, which will require a massive infrastructure of bases, clubs, restaurants, dependent housing, airfields, fuel depots, car lots, churches, movie theaters, golf courses, hotels, uniform shops, and Class 6s to support them, too.

We can backstop our troops at NATO with only so many supporting troops, but thankfully we have nukes here to make sure they’re safe from any unexpected German or French sneak attacks, but nukes require a massive infrastructure of bases, clubs, restaurants, dependent housing, airfields, fuel depots, car lots, churches, movie theaters, golf courses, hotels, uniform shops, and Class 6s to support them…

It’s a permanent self-licking ice cream cone.