Malaysian Airline Shot Down Over Ukraine — 295 dead

Well, this will be in the news for the next 10 days nonstop.

CNN already blaming “poorly trained Russian troops”

The Dogs Of War are wagging their tails. SOMEBODY wants a Russian-American war.  No matter what, the ANTI-RUSSIAN smear campaign will be Fast&Furious.   Wetback Heraldo on FuxNewz is already “100% convinced” it was the Russians.

Prepare your sorry asses for a MASSIVE DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN from the MSM.  You won’t get the truth from them. Ever.  Will be interesting to see who is really behind this, and what it will lead to.

Videos just released moments ago ….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepYIjgmWRo&feature=player_detailpage

 

Author: Stucky

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TE
TE
July 17, 2014 12:24 pm

Here we go, we’ve (mostly) all seen this playbook before.

Thank gawd my daughter is 9 and my son 31, I’m praying for my nephews whom are peak age for war fodder.

Waging death for the power, glory and riches of the very few, I so hate this world.

Administrator
Administrator
July 17, 2014 12:29 pm
bluestem
bluestem
July 17, 2014 12:35 pm

Shot down from 6 miles up? I can’t see how the plane held together so well on the way down? Just sayin’. John

Administrator
Administrator
July 17, 2014 12:40 pm

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GilbertS
GilbertS
July 17, 2014 12:41 pm

A look at Wikipedia makes it look like it was probably not a hand-held unit, but a vehicle or ground-based missile.
I can’t help wondering if the Ukrainians did it? The Russians are unlikely to knock down a jet. Their rebels might have reason to launch at any aircraft they can see and reach. But the Ukrainians have a motive to make the Russians look bad.

We’ll see what happens next…

Administrator
Administrator
July 17, 2014 12:46 pm

“Plunderers of the world, when nothing remains on the lands to which they have laid waste by wanton thievery, they search out across the seas. The wealth of another region excites their greed; and if it is weak, their lust for power as well. Nothing from the rising to the setting of the sun is enough for them. Among all others only they are compelled to attack the poor as well as the rich.

Robbery, rape, and slaughter they falsely call empire; and where they make a desert, they call it peace.”

Tacitus, Agricola

Administrator
Administrator
July 17, 2014 12:47 pm

“Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”

Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger, 1910

Specie
Specie
July 17, 2014 12:48 pm

russia has resisted invading despite all the atrocities by the us backed nazis

somebody really wants to get a russia/ukraine war started so that nato can jump in

mh370 was the test case

now we have the real thing

day after new us sanctions on russia

day before IMF summit to replace us dollar as reserve currency

don’t forget all this when you read/watch msm

Olga
Olga
July 17, 2014 12:48 pm

How convenient … and how remarkable that the airlines name is already on everyone’s mind.

GilbertS
GilbertS
July 17, 2014 12:48 pm

Am I nuts? Why is that first video showing snow and dated 2012? I think someone’s mistaken or fucking with us.

Administrator
Administrator
July 17, 2014 12:55 pm

Obama And Putin Speak, Mention Plane Crash; Obama Threatens With More Sanctions

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/17/2014 12:45 -0400

While the world was riveted by the latest Malaysian Airlines tragedy, Obama and Putin spoke. According to Reuters, Obama warned Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday that the United States and its allies are prepared to impose additional sanctions on Moscow if it does not change course in Ukraine.

More:

The blunt warning came during a phone call on Thursday.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest, briefing reporters on Obama’s Air Force One flight from Washington to Delaware, said Obama was briefed by his advisers on the crash and directed top U.S. officials to remain in close contact with Ukrainian officials.

Earnest said the Obama-Putin phone call was made at the request of Moscow a day after the United States and European countries imposed new sanctions on Russia over its aggression against Ukraine.

Obama told Putin “additional steps are on the table if Russia doesn’t change course,” Earnest said.

Then the flipside, from Bloomberg:

PUTIN TELLS OBAMA HE’S SERIOUSLY DISAPPOINTED AT SANCTIONS

And yes, the crash was discussed:

“Russian President Vladimir Putin in a telephone conversation told U.S. President Barack Obama that a Malaysian airplane crashed on Ukrainian territory, the Kremlin said on Thursday.

The two leaders held a pre-planned call on the situation in Ukraine during which information became available from air traffic controllers about the crash.”

Expect many more such conversations, which will hardly be cordial, and a serious escalation in relations, now that there is a smoking gun provocation, which many are already equating with the modern version of the “Franz Ferdinand” moment.
Average:

GilbertS
GilbertS
July 17, 2014 12:56 pm

They’re saying it’s a BUK missile system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K37_Buk#Operators

Dunno how we/they know the actual unit without forensic analysis, but note the Ukrainians and Russians both have them.

GilbertS
GilbertS
July 17, 2014 12:56 pm

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Administrator
Administrator
July 17, 2014 12:57 pm

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bb
bb
July 17, 2014 1:09 pm

We used to be able to blame everything on those Damn Russians .Now it’s a lot harder
I miss the cold war .Oh well we can always blame Stucky.

TJF
TJF
July 17, 2014 1:12 pm

Stucky,

So this plane crash site looks like all other plane crash site except the ones from 9/11. I agree that those are very fishy, and also do not expect to ever know the real story that climaxed that day.

As to which side shot this one down, who knows. Predictably, both sides will accuse the other side and anything that points to their own guilt will be labeled as propaganda.

Jim
Jim
July 17, 2014 1:23 pm

Was it even shot down?

The Ukies are saying it was, the Russians are saying they didn’t shot anything down.

Is it just a plane crash the Ukies are trying to take advantage of?

AWD
AWD
July 17, 2014 1:29 pm

Obama and the CIA couldn’t get the neo-nazis to push the war on Russia, so they resorted to this. Obama drones 130 kids to death, you think he wouldn’t get some mercs to shoot down commercial aircraft? Guess again. Hope he was wearing his Nobel peace prize when gave the order to the CIA.

Steve Hogan
Steve Hogan
July 17, 2014 2:09 pm

The only thing that I know for sure is that our government will lie about this to get what they want. The truth is like kryptonite to these a-holes.

Tommy
Tommy
July 17, 2014 2:26 pm

@T4C……problem, reaction, solution………out of chaos, order. And going into our final weight ratings, it just makes more sense all the time.

AWD
AWD
July 17, 2014 2:31 pm

Dear Leader Obama called Putin to congratulate him for his progress in replacing American Exceptionalism with Russian Exceptionalism, and to tell him that his CIA man in Eastern Ukraine photographed George W. Bush minutes after shooting down Flight MH17

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
July 17, 2014 2:53 pm

This just in – McCain wants war against Russia. Oh wait – never mind. That was from yesterday.

Eddie
Eddie
July 17, 2014 2:58 pm

Typical false flag BS.

Don’t make war without one. The America people are always so eager to believe whatever they’re told. This is going to work out really great.

Bostonbob
Bostonbob
July 17, 2014 3:06 pm

This from Russia Today:

Kiev deployed powerful surface-to-air missile systems to E. Ukraine ahead of the Malaysian plane crash – reports

http://rt.com/news/173636-buk-malaysian-plane-crash/

There will be a lot of confusing reports on both sides.
Bob.

flash
flash
July 17, 2014 3:21 pm

The shooting down of the Malaysian airliner resulting in the death of 295 innocent souls seems to have exploded a firecracker in Shitstain Hannity’s bunghole similar to the one lit upon his discovery of the mass murder of 500,000 Iragi children… FNES!

Administrator
Administrator
  flash
July 17, 2014 3:53 pm

Shit meet Fan

Israel Launches Ground Invasion Of Gaza

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/17/2014 15:21 -0400

While the mainstream media busily speculates on just which Russians (because they are sure it’s not the Ukrainians) shot the jet out of the sky, Al Jazeera, via Bloomberg, reports that Israel has decided not to let a crisis go to waste and invade Gaza:

ISRAEL GROUND INVASION OF GAZA HAS STARTED: AL JAZEERA
ISRAELI ARMY DECLINES TO COMMENT ON REPORT OF GROUND INVASION

The operation is reportedly on a wide scale.

HEAVY ARTILLERY FIRE, EXPLOSIONS, HEARD THROUGHOUT GAZA

As Blomberg reports,

Operation includes forces on ground, air, sea, Al Jazeera says, citing its own reporter.

Operation is on a wide scale: Al Jazeera

Israel Army declines to comment on the report when called by Bloomberg News

All of this was confirmed moments ago by none other than the Israel PM:

ISRAEL GROUND OPERATION IN GAZA HAS STARTED: PM OFFICE
NETANYAHU SAYS GROUND OPERATION TO DESTROY TUNNELS
NETANYAHU INSTRUCTS ARMY TO START GAZA GROUND INVASION

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
July 17, 2014 4:01 pm

Re: Stucky
If you buy into the story that two airliners brought down the towers (jet fuel doesn’t burn hot enough to melt steel, and it was hot for weeks), how do you explain building 7? No airplane hit it and the fuck leaseholder went on teevee and said “we decided to pull it”. Don’t get me started…..

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
July 17, 2014 4:39 pm

Stuck, if a plane breaks up in flight due to a structural flaw or explosion it will break up into fairly large pieces which fall relatively gently to the ground compared to an intact aircraft impacting the ground at high speed. Airplanes are able to withstand enormous stresses in very specific directions but if you apply a much smaller stress in the wrong direction it will fail. A violent pitch or yaw maneuver in flight will crumple a plane as if it were paper. The TWA flight that exploded on it’s way to Europe came down in large sections. Same with Lockerbie. The Shankville, PA flight supposedly came straight down (nose first) at full throttle which would explain the millions of tiny pieces. All that energy had to dissipate in only a second or two compared to an inflight breakup where the energy has a much larger amount of time to dissipate.

Human bodies are extremely resilient. The space shuttle broke up over Texas at roughly 175,000 feet (commercial planes fly about 30,000 feet) moving at mach 15 (roughly 10,500mph) and the bodies of the crew hit the ground intact. One woman, unaware of the disaster found an astronaut laying in her driveway and the report was that she said he looked like he was asleep. Even at those speeds and altitudes the shuttle came down in large pieces.

It all comes down to energy dissipation and physics. High speed crash science if pretty damned interesting. If I had to start my life over I’d love to have a career in high speed physics.

I just woke up and have no opinion of what happened to this plane yet but like you, I do not trust the govt or its lap dog media outlets.

TPC
TPC
July 17, 2014 5:32 pm

@Admin – Wow, didn’t Israel just publically call for a cease fire “for the children”?

Thats cold man.

yahsure
yahsure
July 17, 2014 6:14 pm

What would the Russians have to gain from it. The whole thing Has a bad smell about it.
Being so stupid,It’s more like a CIA thing.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
July 17, 2014 6:47 pm

Putins plane is certainly quite a bit smaller than a 777. Also his plane has radar jamming capabilities and chaff pods.

I’m not sure it was a missile. The plane could have come apart, intentional, or otherwise, by creating an over G event. If it was a missile I would think it would have come down in a fireball. The bodies I have seen on the ground dont have burns, or turned into mush, such as a missile, shrapnel or pressure wave would inflict.

Something smells. Is this a false flag? Probably. But I have no evidence in any case, either way.

ASIG
ASIG
July 17, 2014 7:00 pm

Westcoast

“jet fuel doesn’t burn hot enough to melt steel”

I had one of my buildings (wood frame) burn for about 15-20 min before the fire dept put the fire out and there were molten metals that have melting points far higher that can be achieved in a wood fire.

Explain that. Was it Bush, Cheney, the Israelis? If you truthers would remove your blinders and step back from your one track goal to prove a preconceived idea, you might just be able to figure it out.

I’ve wasted way too much time reviewing many of the truthers videos and it’s quite clear You truthers know just enough science to be dangerous, but not enough to arrive at the truth.

IraK
IraK
July 17, 2014 7:12 pm

Ask yourself, “Who has the most to gain by the crash of the Malaysian jet?”

The US doesn’t and neither do the Ukranians. Without the crash, we’re kicking Russian butt in Eastern Ukraine now and should soon have that section under control. Without the crash the Russians will be intimidated further.

However, if the Russians, who have the plane’s black box, can convince the world that the Nazi Ukes shot down a 777 with its American and European passengers, the US is likely to back off in its support of the Ukraine. That will make it easier for the Russians to undermine, then control, the Ukraine. Read Pravda, RT, and the Iranian Press TV to see how the unfree world tries to deflect blame from Putin and Russia for the catastrophe. Drudge Report has the most up-to-date accurate reporting on the terrorist act.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
July 17, 2014 7:19 pm

I so hate this world. -TE

The world, the beautiful blue marble, our spaceship, I love, it’s the wackos upon it that I wish to be free of.

Maddie's Mom
Maddie's Mom
July 17, 2014 7:19 pm

Flight 17, a 777, blown out of the sky on 7/17…..

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
July 17, 2014 7:23 pm

Drudge Report -IraK

Shirley, you jest.

max cady
max cady
July 17, 2014 7:28 pm

people,please look at the “bodies”,how is it possible that a rocket .explosion,falling kilometers out of the sky and crash and the “bodies”look like this??!!??they are dummies or crisisactors!!!and the “bodies”position just out of the melting ground…??!!look also at the BRANDNEW PASPORTS THEY FOUND AT THE “CRASH”..AND WHY DONT THEY NOT NOW WHO ARE WHAT THE 47 NAMES,IDENTITIES ARE OF THOSE 47 PEOPLE….???EVERYBODY HAS TO BUY A TICKET,CHECKS IN AIRFIELD ETC..ETC..ETC..THIS IS A HOAX!!!!!!!!!!NOBODY DIED!!!!IT;S A PSY-OP,MINDCONTROL,ILLUMINATI,NEW WORLD ORDER AGENDA THING…

max cady
max cady
July 17, 2014 7:31 pm

look at you tube/google-DAVE JOHNSON ANALYSES ABOUT THIS MALAYSIA MH 17-HOAX…..

Jackson
Jackson
July 17, 2014 7:33 pm

Stucky…

Re your post above, “The 9-11 plane that supposedly crashed in Shanksville…I smell a fuckn’ rat.”

You and I aren’t fools and neither is the Administrator. Anyone who’s curious, can think rationally, and who can evaluate evidence, knows what happened on 9/11.

That said, as I’ve said before, let’s leave 9/11 alone on TBP. It’s obvious that the Administrator doesn’t want the subject to see much light on his blog. Administrator’s interests are economics, traditional politics, and social decline. He has a great blog. I bet it’s your favorite and it is one of my top five. I say that if Jim Q wants to set the boundaries for TBP I’m willing to follow them. OK?

max cady
max cady
July 17, 2014 7:45 pm

new world order is coming you way like a rocket ,REASON:DAVID ROCKEFFELER,QUEEN ELIZABETH,GEORGE BUSH SR,QUEEN BEATRIX.ETC..ETC….ARE NOT THE YOUNGEST ANYMORE AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS THERE “BABY”AND THEY WANT TO WITNESS THE NEW WORLD ORDER BEFORE THEY DIE….THIS WEEK,MONTH….ETC…ILLUMINATI,HELL,MISERY IS TRENDING TOPIC……”THEY LIVE” AND “THEY ARE GOING TO FUCK THE 99% IN THERE EYES WHORTLESS HUMAN BEINGS….BECAUSE “THEY”ARE THE 1% ELITE(SCUMBAGS) AND “THEY”WANT YOUR SOUL,MIND,LIFE IN THEIR SATANIC,MINDCONTROL,PSY-OP CONTROL!!!!THE ANTI-CHRIST=COMING……………………….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
July 17, 2014 7:50 pm

Max Cady, the Buk missile carries a 154 lb high explosive.

We should see alot of damage.

And it is just not there.

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As for jet fuel burning, if it burns cold, you see alot of black smoke.

The jet exhaust, yes their are indicators in the cockpit, is not allowed to go above 1100 degrees, farenheit, else engine damage to combustion section blades occurs, you see any jets spewing black smoke?

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