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Published on the Doomstead Diner on July 20, 2014
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The BIG NEWZ for the week on the Geopolitical level was the downing of yet another Malaysian Commercial Jet over East Ukrainian Air Space. Well, besides the Israelis rolling Tanks in to Gaza, also pretty Big Newz. Let’s begin though with this latest Unscheduled and Unsafe Landing by Flight MH-17.
The Malaysians appear to be the Target of Choice for taking out Commercial Jets, for what reason remains Unclear at this point. Is it because Malaysian Airlines Passengers are considered more Expendable than say KLM (Dutch) Passengers? Is it because somebody has taken out large Insurance Policies on Malaysian Airlines? Is it because there are particular Passengers on Malaysian Airlines planes that are targeted first for a Ticket to the Great Beyond? WTF Knows?
What I do know is that the statistical probabililty of two commercial jets from the SAME Airline ( a relatively small one with a relatively small fleet) BOTH being sent to the Great Beyond under Mysterious Circumstances within a year is ridiculously small on pure Random Chance, you got at least a good a chance at winning the LOTTO here. For those of you with short memories or who simply don’t follow Doom Stories regularly, Malaysian flight MH370 disappeared in March, 2014 somewhere over the Pacific Ocean, which is pretty far from the current ongoing conflict in Ukraine, though quite nearby the ongoing conflict over the South China Sea. Is there some abstract relationship between these two locations and Malaysian Airlines? Again, WTF knows?
At the very LEAST though, what you as a Passenger should take out of this Coinkidink is DON’T BOOK A TICKET on Malaysian Airlines! LOL. Also, as an Investor, it would be a good time to SHORT the living shit out of Malaysian Airlines! If you write Life Insurance Policies for Malaysian Airlines Passengers, UP THOSE PREMIUMS! Use the additional Premiums to buy Credit Default Swaps on a Malaysian Airlines Bankruptcy! I’m sure the geniuses on Wall Street I worked with can come up with a few more ways to make a profit on this too!
Seriously, what kind of fucking jackass would book a ticket on a Malaysian Airlines flight now? You might as well book a Vacation in Donetsk or a Bus Tour of Syria and the Gaza Strip. Or you could sail your yacht off the Somalia Coast. Maybe book a Tour of the Fukushima Nuclear Plant to check on progress of freezing the groundwater. If this Airline can stay in Bizness for another year, you either have Plane Loads of MORONS buying tickets, or somebody is kicking in debt to keep empty planes flying.
Now, let’s look at the specifics of the latest Rapid Landing of MH-17 over East Ukraine airspace, basically RIGHT on the Ruskie border. There is another AMAZING Coinkidink, that right in the week when West Ukraine forces backed by NATO are getting trounced throughout the East Ukraine region closer to Mother Russia. From Tony Cartalucci:
July 18, 2014 (Tony Cartalucci – NEO) – With Kiev’s forces being encircled and decimated in eastern Ukraine, western Ukrainians in Kiev protesting the war, and US sanctions receiving global ridicule as feckless – the downing of a Malaysian Boeing 777 airliner with over 280 on board in eastern Ukraine – allegedly shot down over a conflict zone – will undoubtedly be exploited by NATO to vilify Kiev’s opponents, particularly fighters in the east and Russia who NATO accuses of “destabilizing eastern Ukraine.”
It makes ZERO sense for the East Ukrainians to down this jet, and even less sense for Vlad the Impaler to do it. The East Ukraine Separatists at the moment are doing quite well in terms of Conventional Warfare, knocking down the troops sent in from the Kiev Neo-Nazi Goobermint to take control over the neighborhood. Why shoot down a Passenger Jet in this situation? That is the desperate act of somebody who is LOSING, not WINNING.
For Vlad, he is doing GREAT making Political Hay out of the dumb ass Sanctions being dropped on Mother Russia by the FSoA, which generally have Blowback that is at least as bad for the Western Banks and Corporations as it is for Vlad. How would it help him to shoot down a Passenger Jet here?
Then you have the issue of who has the Technical Capability of knocking out of the sky a Jet flying at 33,000 feet? Although sprinkled around the neighborhood there are plenty of Shoulder Fired Missiles which can knock down a low flying Apache Helicopter Gunship or even a big plane in the process of take off or landing, you need much better equipment plus good Radar to be able to knock down an aircraft flying at 33,000 feet.
What you need which are fairly liberally sprinkled around the neighborhood devices is a Buk Launcher, along with some good radar for tracking the plane before the launch. This is a Ruskie designed and built system, and since Ukraine has been within the Ruskie sphere of influence up until NATO decided they needed this Territory also, there are likely numerous ones sprinkled all over the country.
The question is of course, which side fired it off, and from where? Which side has the expertiese to Target and Fire it, and send 280 Malaysians to the Great Beyond?
Possibly both sides, though the Separatists in the East are more “irregular” forces, whereas the West Ukrainians are more of the regular army. There have been enough defections though that either side could likely muster up the expertiese necessary for shooting down a Passenger Jet, which more or less is a Sitting Duck since it has no defenses. Which brings you back to the MOTIVATION question, and there is little motivation for the Separatists to do it, but quite a bit for the NATO forces to do it.
Regardless of which side was actually RESPONSIBLE though, one can be sure that each side will say the OTHER one did it! You as Newz Consumer will never be able to determine which side is telling the TRUTH here with a Capital “T”, you can only try to ferret out the Truth by examining what makes the most CFS and Cui Bono? Even then you cannot be sure, because so many of the parameters are outside your ability to know anything about, like for instance WTF it is Malaysian Planes getting snuffed here?
What bodes here for the FUTURE, assuming of course this does not launch an immediate Global Thermonuclear War between all the Big Players, and it remains for a while a Proxy War in places like Ukraine and the South China Sea now, but likely to expand in scope over time?
Well, besides the Malaysian Airlines, ANY airline has to think twice about flying it’s planes over the expanding number of War Zones around the world. As of right now, Alaska Airlines seems pretty SAFE on the routes it flies, but ALL the routes flown in Europe, in Asia, in MENA and between any of these places are potential targets, either for “Terrorists” who get control over one of the Surface-to-Air Missile Systems, or for the Big Players who wish to create a False Flag as a pretext for an Invasion or Bombing Campaign, to make the Skies Safe for Happy Flying.
Taking out aircraft flying at 33,000 feet remains the province of just a few people with access to some pretty High Tech and expensive Missile Systems. However, ALL civilian aircraft are vulnerable on Takeoff & Landing to even Simple & Cheap shoulder fired missiles. How tough would it really be to drop a crew of Suicidal Fanatics on Rockaway Beach to fire on planes taking off or landing at JFK International Airport? Even easier than that one, target the planes scheduled at Tel Aviv International Airport, or Cairo? Knock down one plane coming into or out of Cairo International Airport, there goes the Tourist trade of people visiting the Great Pyramid at Geza! What source of FOREX do the Egyptians have LEFT here besides the Tourist Trade?
Where in the world can you fly TO these days without overflying some neighborhood that is in current conflict at some level? Do I want to be aboard a plane destined for Kuala Lumpur? There’s a demonstrably bad destination choice by plane. Do I want to fly to Budapest from Madrid? Probably overfly Croatia there. Not a good choice. LOL.
Right now in the FSoA, it still seems pretty SAFE to Fly from NY to LA, and Lord only knows plenty of people still do this every day. As things spin down here though, this becomes ever more Unsafe at Any Speed, at Any Altitude from Any Location. I personally am loath to board an aircraft even from the low probability target of Ted Stevens International Airport in Anchorage, though granted this is more because I prefer not to have my Testicles Fondled by the TSA Squad of Perverts than my concerns over getting shot down over Prince William Sound at this point. LOL.
Now here is the thing with these missile systems, which all the Big Militaries have one form of or another. The Ruskies make them, the Chinese make them, the FSoA makes them. Then they sell them to whoever has money to buy them, or they Vendor Finance to whoever lines up with them on the geopolitical level. With so many places in conflict, somebody is gonna actually USE them, they are great military toys.
You J6P will never know the Truth about which side in any conflict pushed the button on one of these things, you can be sure your Leaders won’t admit THEY did it. You can be equally sure they will blame the other side for doing it, and then manufacture evidence to prove the other side did the Dirty Deed Done Dirt Cheap.
Of all the various dangers we face now though, this one is pretty low priority for most people, who never board an aircraft to begin with. It is also mostly under your control too, to solve the danger of getting shot down in a Commercial Airliner, DON”T BOARD ONE! If you absolutely MUST board one, check the flight path first, and do NOT buy a Ticket on Malaysian Airlines. These days, that really IS a First Class Ticket to the Great BeyondTM
RE
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The National Institute of Health says Obesity kills 300,000 Americans every year. That’s 822 people each and every day. Nobody gives fuck, but an airliner is destroyed and everyone is outraged. Obesity kills four times more people daily.
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No assumptions of guilt. No conspiracy theories. No let`s have a war. Good article.
Same with smoking, traffic accidents, drugs taken exactly as prescribed, even plain old Tylenol kills because it’s in many over the counter drugs like Robaxacet and most follks have no idea as to how little an overdose can kill you or at least destroy your liver.
In any case, the media jumps on these things, false flag or not because it’s a spectacular and emotional event. Man bites dog.
Crazy thing is, even THAT’s becoming the norm.
And the fat guy? Isn’t that from the movie, Goldmember?
This has not been a good year for Malaysian Airline to say the least. Owned by the gov’t and financally on the ropes, they also seem poor at decisions making.. I just loved the rebel commander stating the bodies weren’t fresh WTF, being blown too pieces at 31,000 ft, and you are not FRESH when you hit the ground.
@Welshman,
My understanding is, the implication was that many of the passengers were actually corpses. As in, already dead before the flight departed. Bloodless bodies? wth?! Perhaps I misunderstood.
MM,
Yes I understood his comment, and it was utter nonsense.
I see it as one of two possibilities:
1 –It was a total fuck-up on someone’s part; someone thought they were shooting at their enemy.
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2 –It was intentional, in which case it would need to have been done in such a way that any investigation cannot lead back to the guilty party, and that the “enemy” would most likely get the blame.
Who has the ability and would likely benefit the most in option #2?
“My understanding is, the implication was that many of the passengers were actually corpses. As in, already dead before the flight departed. Bloodless bodies? wth?! Perhaps I misunderstood. “-MM
I hadn’t heard this report, but it is something I speculated on writing about as an explanation, which is that the Malaysian Planes are being flown as Drones and there are no live people aboard them. I dismissed this as a possibility because on crashing there need to be dead bodies, unless it is over the Ocean.
The question then becomes, where did they get the corpses and who loaded them onto the plane in Amsterdam? Where are all the Grieving Family Members of people who were aboard Flight 17?
Now to motivation. Maybe this is financial, from Malaysia Airlines. If they are in financial trouble and have Insurance on their planes, having them shot down is a nice way to collect on the insurance. Obviously, you would need to be very well connected to the Illuminati to pull this off.
There is no proof it was a ground based missile that took out MH17. It could have been a fighter jet dispatched from any number of spots around the neighborhood.
This provides the best explanation for why you see Malaysian Airlines being shot down and nobody else’s.
RE
Though I have worked on many aircraft I do not fly anymore.
I will take my chance on the highways and byways.
Just my imagination running wild here…but where, oh where is Malaysian Flight 370 and the 239 passengers and crew on board??……..
http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/breaking-part-ii-evidence-continues-to-emerge-mh17-is-a-false-flag-operation/
11:53-12:40 – July 18, 2014 – Information Regarding the Boeing from Igor Strelkov
[Translated from Russian by Gleb Bazov – original URL not given, but Novorossiyan]
– regarding Boeing 777, Flight MH17:
Igor Strelkov: According to the information received from the people who collected the corpses, a large number of the corpses are “not fresh” – these are people who died a few days ago. I cannot vouch for complete accuracy of this information – of course, we will have to wait for conclusions from forensic specialists.
– “Somebody of course must have been piloting this plane, which, to boot, would be impossible to leave. The theory that the plane was full of dead people is, of course, breathtaking; however, it does not seem to make sense.”
Igor Strelkov: First of all, not all the people in the plane were dead prior to the fall.
Second, a large quantity of medication, including blood serum and so forth, was found in the airplane, which is not characteristic of a regular airliner. It looks like there was some kind of special medical cargo on board.
Third, I do not insist on anything (for now). It’s just that only moments ago I spoke with two individuals who personally gathered the corpses after the crash (both of them are from Shakhtersk and arrived at the scene less than half an hour after the catastrophe). I am writing exactly what they told me. They emphasized that a large number of the corpses were “completely bloodless” – it’s as if their blood clotted long before the catastrophe. They also remarked that there was an overwhelming putrid corpse stench, which was also noted by many locals – a smell like that could not have formed in half an hour in any weather, let alone in the cloudy, temperate weather we had yesterday.
Fourth, while I am usually very suspicious of any “conspiracy theories” myself, but the 18 of our fighters that were poisoned with chemical weapons at their positions in Semyonovka, the executions of the militiamen’s family members and all other “small joys of Ukie patriots” have convinced me that the Ukrainian government is capable of any villainy.
The pilots were, of course, perfectly alive – the entire cabin (and the front part is well preserved) was literally bathed in their blood.
From the parallel thread on the Diner:
Well, any coroner should be able to estimate how long some of those bodies were dead prior to the crash.
If there were any previously dead people being flown as “passengers” as opposed to in Body Bags, that completely rules out Accident. It also would definitely mean Malaysia Airlines was complicit in what went down.
Apparently the plane was flown by LIVE Pilots, not as a Drone. They must have been offered a LOT of money to fly a plane load of corpses.
Unless you want to dismiss the reports of previously dead corpses on the plane, this definitely implicates Malaysian Airlines.
RE
Wrong RE, aircraft of this sort are capable of remote piloting to thwart hijackings.
Okay, fly by wire.
The pilot no longer has a cabled [A physical cable] connection to the actual flight surface. [fly by tab]
Instead we have only wires commanding the position of the flight control surface which commands a 3000lb hydraulic actuator. Yes, there are means to revert to fly by tab.
IE the pilot does not have total authority over the flight control surfaces.
@KB
I originally hypothesized it was flown remotely KB, Read for comprehension.
The report from the Separatists is that there were pilots on board and their blood was splattered all over the cabin, unlike the clotted/drained blood of many of the passengers who appear to have been dead for quite some time.
RE
RE wrote:
“Where are all the Grieving Family Members of people who were aboard Flight 17?”
Been wondering that myself. I watch almost no teevee, so maybe I just missed it. Where can I find video of distraught, horrified, weeping family and friends of the passengers who had just been blown out of the sky? There was certainly plenty of that when MH370 disappeared.
You would think the reactions would be amplified in this case. I know mine would be.
Was the media there, as per usual, sticking their cameras and microphones in the faces of those grieving?
Please enlighten me.
There appear to be stories in UK and Dutch newspapers about grieving relatives.
RE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10977385/MH17-relatives-of-dead-Dutch-children-gather-as-Holland-mourns.html
MH17: relatives of dead Dutch children gather as Holland mourns
Holland in “deep mourning” as country struggles to come to terms with the deaths of 189 of its citizens – including at least 22 children
Members of the public lay down flowers as tributes at the entrance to Schiphol Airport, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Members of the public lay down flowers as tributes at the entrance to Schiphol Airport, Amsterdam, Netherlands Photo: Getty
By David Chazan in Amsterdam
9:11PM BST 18 Jul 2014
The Netherlands was last night trying to come to terms with one of the worst aviation disasters in its history, as grieving relatives gathered at a primary school attended by some of the 22 Dutch children killed.
The De Klimroos school, in the southern town of Roosendaal, opened specially on the first day of the holidays to provide counselling for those who were close to the children.
“They’re inconsolable,” a local resident said, declining to give her name. “This is a small country and nearly everyone is affected.”
A total of 189 Dutch people were among the dead – nearly two-thirds of those killed when the Malaysia Airlines passenger jet bound from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was blown to pieces on Thursday over eastern Ukraine.
Flags were lowered to half-mast across the country as Mark Rutte, the prime minister, cut short a trip Germany to fly home. “The whole of the Netherlands is in deep mourning,” he said.
The sadness soon turned to anger as people demanded to know why the plane had flown over a conflict zone.
Some reports claimed it had made a last-minute route change that took it into an area where missiles had hit two military planes this week.
The Vice-President of Malaysia Airlines, Huib Gorter, insisted that the plane had followed the usual route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur before it was hit by a missile fired from the ground, rejecting suggestions it had deviated.
“Other international airlines were flying through that area with us,” he told a news conference.
He said Malaysia Airlines was planning to fly relatives to the site where the plane came down, prompting Dutch journalists to demand how their safety would be guaranteed.
“We’re working on logistics and whether it’s feasible,” he said. “It is an extremely complex area where the plane went down.”
Condolence book is seen on a table outside the departure hall, in the wake of the downed Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777, at Schiphol Airport (Reuters)
He said the airline was giving relatives $5,000 (nearly £3,000) each for immediate needs. “We are a caring company and we want to ensure that they get the best we have to offer,” he said.
Some relatives are being put up at a hotel near the airport, where counsellors are helping them try to come to terms with the tragedy.
At Schiphol airport, friends of those killed laid flowers in tribute to the dead. Appy Tong, 19, a student from the suburb of Amstelveen, was grim-faced as he carefully placed a bunch of red roses and white tulips as a mark of respect for his friends – four members of the Gunawan family from the Philippines.
He stood silently with his hands clasped, visibly struggling to control his emotion.
“They were very close to my father,” he said. “He’s really broken about it so he asked me to come here with flowers.”
An unsigned note in English left among the flowers summed up the mood: “Holland is in mourning. The world is in shock. This should never have happened. RIP.”
The scale of the disaster was immense in a country of just 15 million people. Twitter posts compared the impact on the Dutch people to that of the 9-11 attacks in the United States.