WHERE’S GOD ??

Where was God when his son was murdered?  Where was God when a third of Europe died in a plague? Where was God when six million or so of His Chosen People were annihilated?  Where was God when a man dropped an atom bomb on a city of innocents?  More than few people have this Great Awesome Plan for when the shit hits the fan. It’s called, “Trust God”.  Given God’s policy of Noninterference for the past 2,000+ years …. I wonder how their Great Awesome Plan will work out for them (in this life) when TSHTF?

Innocent folks wrong place at the wrong time. Doing bids or drawn in a chalk line, little kids crossing the bridge too young, some tortured before they come. Damn. Evil is here, the boogie man too.

 You  don’t own a gun, man you should plan to. Am I looking at shit negatively? Crib death, mom ain’t got shit left. How the fuck is shit fair out here. Homeless family froze on the stairs. Where’s God? Bumping his Ipod.

It’s odd, I’ll be the lightning rod. I wanna know. Where’s God? Pitiful that. Where’s God?  Where’s God, when shit goes down? It ain’t right. 

So much fucked up shit where to begin. Some kids are born with a silver spoon. Others born with a needle & a world of doom. Little girl found duct taped & raped, & the killer escaped. God give me a break. I want to keep believing but it’s a struggle. Drunk drivers killing Iraq survivors. He can’t interfere, then why’s he here?, 

After years of feeling like nobody cares. Most of us switch gears on Him. Cheers. Children fire, everybody dies. As a preacher explains & I roll my eyes. This game tryin’ to make sense of madness for a ray of hope in a world of sadness. I get it,  we all need hope to cope. But collection plate money goes to dope. I cling by a finger & I’ll admit it, most of it is bullshit, & I don’t get it.

If he was up there chillin’, lettin’ this happen, doin’ nuttin’, He’d be in need of a slappin’. But we’re all clueless to how it works. There are no experts & that’s what hurts. Where’s God, when shit goes down? There’s not an individual who’s ever confessed Christ, who has not but one time or another, said the wrong thing, thought the wrong thing, done the wrong thing, & I don’t care how saved you are. Where’s God? We need Him here. I still believe. It ain’t right.

Author: Stucky

I'm right, you're wrong. Deal with it.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
February 14, 2015 8:28 pm

bb

It’s not a question of ownership, it’s a question of submission. The original lie was “you can be like God.” Of course God not say “it’s ok with me if you choose to be your own god rather than acknowledge me as God,” but isn’t that the inescapable implication? Of course, since humans are in possession of a spirit that yearns for a God-connection, we will substitute anything to try to satisfy that longing. A short list includes addictions of all kinds, money, and power. It even includes pretentious religious practices (review the Pharisees.). We want to manage our own little universe to the satisfaction of our own intellect and pride, and if our efforts contradict the revealed ways of God, so be it.

Any mature Christian would agree that it takes a lifetime of discipline to get out of the way and let God be God, even when his ways are completely mysterious. That’s what Stucky was railing against.

Gayle
Gayle
February 14, 2015 9:20 pm

bb

That Anonymous was me.

Sensetti
Sensetti
February 14, 2015 9:35 pm

God has predetermined who’s gonna make the cut. Fortunately Stucky, Billy, and myself have a ticket to ride the Glory train straight to the promised land, but we will not rush the departure date. If you don’t already know you have a ticket you’re headed straight to the smoking section a couple miles beneath your feet. It’s AKA ,Hell, or the Dimocratic Abode.

The doctrine of predestination in Calvinism deals with the question of the control God exercises over the world. In the words of the Westminster Confession of Faith, God “freely and unchangeably ordained whatsoever comes to be.

Sensetti
Sensetti
February 14, 2015 9:40 pm

I need to grab a couple things at the store tonight we may get the first winter storm of the season tomorrow. They are predicting 1/4 inch of ice, OMG, the horror of it.

llpoh
llpoh
February 14, 2015 10:13 pm

Stuck – nice comment to Aunt Bea. The little cur keeps yapping, but has not yet figured out he is adding nothing, saying nothing, contributing nothing, and has shown himself an intellectual lightweight conspiracy nut job. He should head over to RE’s site and leave the adults to themselves.

Got nothing to add to another God thread. Loads live this stuff, but I am all philosophicalled out on this stuff.

Fluff has its place. Keep posting it. We need relief from the doom.

El Siete
El Siete
February 14, 2015 10:55 pm

Sensetti says:

Does that coincide with the first time you start pulling on your Dick? I think it was actually about 7 if memory serves me.

No, it coincides with the first time you realize you have a moral choice to make. The time you realize there is a right and a wrong way of doing things. Up to that point, you judged right and wrong according to the results, injury or jail time. Then you became aware of a conscience, you sought to avoid not just remorse after the fact but guilt before the fact.

N8
N8
February 14, 2015 11:00 pm

“ICP (Insane Clown Posse) are professed Christians.”
Obama professed your health care wouldn’t go up. IT must be true if a pos professes something it most be true!

Bea Lever Declares Victory Over The Holy Trinity
Bea Lever Declares Victory Over The Holy Trinity
February 14, 2015 11:10 pm

Time’s up. No challengers stepped forth. I win. Henceforth you may refer to me with groveling humility, Lord Lever, Prince Of Hell. That’s right, bitches, I am the new LLPOH, Lord of all that is right and never wrong. You may begin lining up to kiss my pinkie ring.

Billah's wife
Billah's wife
February 14, 2015 11:36 pm

I always knowed Stucky was a bored piece white trash fer all the time he spends here on this site, but I never ever woulda believed he was down with ICP. Nickledick, I love yer writin, and all yer personal info that you’ve shared has really enriched me n Billah’s lives, but you are one stinky doo doo streaked anus if you think ICP is missionaries. You need ter git out this extended mid life crisis and try to figure sum shit out cuz them last pictures you posted look like you ain’t got too much time left and you don’t wanna waste it on ICP. Peace out.

El Siete
El Siete
February 14, 2015 11:45 pm

Oh shit, BW is ICP savvy and evangelizing in The Land of The Lost. Who is this poke sallet Annie?

Llpoh
Llpoh
February 15, 2015 12:02 am

Stuck – I hear you loud and clear. There is some stuff going on around here I do not understand.

But you and many others, including Admin, keep me coming back each day. Don’t let the fuckwits get you down. I love your fluff! It gives me a reason to ride you like a rented mule.

SSS
SSS
February 15, 2015 12:18 am

“Where’s God? We need Him here. I still believe.”
—-Stucky, from his post

Ah, you can’t shake your strong belief, can you? Despite your many anti-religious rants on this site, your faith endures, your prodigious knowledge of the Bible endures. It is a very important, perhaps THE most important, part of you. It is who you are.

Never let it go.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 15, 2015 12:19 am

Good try asshat….the 11:10 post was a Doppler

Shame on you

KaD
KaD
February 15, 2015 12:22 am

God DOES interfere. Haven’t you ever heard of someone who was in an accident that should have killed them but they walked away? My brother did. Angels are able to manipulate matter at the subatomic level. So if someone is going to have a horrible accident they might shrink part of the car for a millisecond; just enough for that person to avoid a fatal head injury without even knowing it happened. This book has quite a few stories from people who have had similar things happen:

Gayle
Gayle
February 15, 2015 12:54 am

Stucky

You didn’t see the post where I identified myself as the “Anonymous” you quote.

A couple of observations: one of the things that makes TBP fun is the arguing amongst the fans. Sometimes I think the ones who like to dish it out (and usually in a very entertaining manner if it’s you) get suddenly (and surprisingly) thin-skinned. It doesn’t happen too often, but it did in this thread. This seemed to me to be a rather mild match compared to many I’ve read.

Your motives were misunderstood? So what? You gave people something to think about. You asked profound questions. But then you don’t get to control how people respond or the direction the thread takes. Nobody ever does, and sometimes that’s when the best fun happens.

It seems to me that some former regular commenters have disappeared. I don’t know why, maybe Jim does. As they have gone, replacements haven’t come on board. I have sometimes observed new people try to take part and get shooed off before they really get a chance to understand the vibe of this place.

I hope your mama is well and the cake was good and you felt loved this day.

Gayle
Gayle
February 15, 2015 1:04 am

Stucky

The “felt loved this day” remark is because it is still Valentines Day in Cali.

You’re right, I missed the preparedness focus of your post. Since I think even True Believers are in for some brutal times ahead, I have planned accordingly.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
February 15, 2015 1:17 am

In Zoroastrianism, mankind has complete free will. Ahura Mazda does not require worship and there is no reward for those who do, nor punishment for those who don’t. It (because I don’t recognize gender in god) invites man to help perfect creation. That we have failed to do so is probably not much of a disappointment as Ahura Mazda is timeless and has infinite patience. If not on this world, then maybe it will work out better on others.

backwardsevolution
backwardsevolution
February 15, 2015 2:22 am

If there is a god, he must have put us all here as his nightly comical release, just to unwind after a hard day’s work at managing the universe.

Thank goodness half the world is involved in some weekly, mindless, religious appointment – Sundays with a Pedophile – being blindly told what to do and what to say, never thinking for themselves. Otherwise we’d be blowing each other’s heads off a lot quicker than we are.

The Bible is all about being God-like, doing the right thing. But people don’t do the right thing because they don’t friggin know who they are, and they’re angry about that. When you know who you are, you’re not angry anymore. You’re not ripping apart; you’re creating.

You don’t need to look for God because he’s in each one of us. It’s just that we’re looking outside ourselves when we ought to be looking inward.

Good post, Stucky. Liked the song a lot.

ZombieDawg
ZombieDawg
February 15, 2015 6:01 am

Wading through ’em all…
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/137/religion-god-theology/official-rgt-images-thread-nsfw-404393/

1. How many believers in a deity were indoctrinated into such beliefs before the age of reason?
2. Why do believers need to align themselves with multi billion year old extraterrestrials in order to do good deeds on Earth ?
3. My father died on the operating table a few months back due to a surgical error.
He was dead for around 1 1/2 minutes but was brought back.
Everyone has asked him the same question – “What was there?”
His answer – “Nothing”. He always hoped there would be something…
4. The “tunnel of light” after death has been explained scientifically and is due to progressive cell death in the optic nerves. Sorry – no highway to Heaven or anything else.
5. Evolution is proven – no need for a deity.
6. If your deity DOES exist, WHY should you bow down and worship a lifeform billions of years more advanced than yourself ? You are mere bacteria compared to it, on an evolutionary timescale, unless your deity does not grow or evolve.
7. Is your deity just one of an entire race of their species? Where are the others if so?
8. Enough religious BS – time to go babe surfing. The reason for existence 😉

flash
flash
February 15, 2015 8:05 am

Stucky-flash is the worst of the lot.

Thanks Stuck… yeah, bitchez ,I’m # I .

But all B/S aside , you construe my comment to fit your twisted narrative which was to make the point that evil is allowed in this earthy plane because their is no creator and thus no need for a Christian faith.
If it was in jest, it is most certainly a poor jest thinly veiled as an admonishment to the faithful.
I’ll be the first to admit , that I’m a poor excuse for a Christian , and have failed frequently in keeping the commandments, turning the other cheek and giving a ratz ass if one goes to hell or not, but all that aside, I still understand that the Christian faith is under attack from all sides , both inside and outside the God’s church and must be defended on every level and nothing less than the demise of western civilization is at stake.Christianity is the very foundation of civility , without it all is lost.

So if you wanted to crack on something , one’s faith is a poor choice of entertainment .

..jus’ sayin’ …glad to see you back.

Galatians 6:7

Don’t be misled–you cannot mock the justice of God. You will always harvest what you plant.

Psalm 14:1

14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

flash
flash
February 15, 2015 8:17 am

For any interested in reading a decent debate on the omnidergence of God and the divinely chosen versus the inattentive God who expect those of free will to come to him on their accord.

Team Calvin versus Vox Day on the question of God’s Omniscient

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/03/team-calvin-question-five.html

The God I worship is not necessarily aware of everything that is happening on Earth today. You should not tell a child that God has a specific plan made just for her, because not only is it possible that He does not know which husband she will choose in twenty years, He doesn’t necessarily know that she will be alive tomorrow. And it’s quite possible that if she does die, He will not be immediately aware of it. If, on the other hand, she lives through an accident in which the car is totaled, thanking God for protecting her may be giving Him credit for something He didn’t do or even intend. It is even possible that God knows less about your daughter’s current activities than you do at the moment. To find out what is happening somewhere on Earth, God customarily investigates Himself or instructs others to find out about it and inform Him. However, due to God’s knowledge of human nature and the human heart, He most likely has sufficient knowledge about me and my soul to know what I will do in any given circumstance.
Vox Day

Billy
Billy
February 15, 2015 9:10 am

Insane Clown Posse? Those fucking goons?

Shyeah, like I’m gonna take advice about religion from them…

My relationship with the Creator of All Things is just that – mine. It falls under the “nunya” heading…

However, I will say that even if I were seeking answers to the questions that we all ask eventually, I wouldn’t ask the fucking Insane Clown Posse, or consider them a fount of wisdom, or even adepts on the subject of religious conundrums….

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 15, 2015 9:15 am

T4C

Perhaps you would be interested in Mithra. The Mithraic mystery is but one of many of the Masonic mysteries.

Mithra born on December 25th, died and was resurrected three days later. Legend complete with animals spoke and gathered at the birth of Mithra. Does that sound familiar?? That same story was repackaged into many gods and was also part of the Zoroastrian cult.

God is omnipresent, cults are cults.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 15, 2015 9:32 am

Flash

When does the newbie thrashing period end? I can take it no problem but I don’t think Stucky and Llpoh will be able to handle it. They blame us for being downed (see above)? It’s all in good fun until the tide turns.

Do we have to conform to the beliefs of a few for fear of their wrath?

flash
flash
February 15, 2015 9:37 am

Google juggalos images for a view of Stucky’s camp of the saints ? …phttttt… never such a load of B/S was ever attempted to be peddled on TBP.

Might as well be telling people that The Good Reverends Al , Jesse and their spiritual leader Obamney are secret evangelicals for the Aryan Nation…guffaws all around.

flash
flash
February 15, 2015 9:44 am

BL, I’ve been here since the Raging Debate ( the tuft up between Jason and James was a source of grreat drama) days and have seen many come and go, some for good , others for respite, so I can tell you from the authority of one who has witnesses it all , that the newbie thrashing begins with your first comment and will only cease once your driven from the field or yield.

There can be only three!

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Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 15, 2015 9:50 am

Flash

Okie Dokie then, I guess that is the way it is. Well, I have to spend the rest of my morning cleaning coffee out of my keyboard.

SKINBAG
SKINBAG
February 15, 2015 10:25 am

Mr. Stucky,

You have ask a very deep question. A question so deep that the bottom cannot be found and thus the answer to your question cannot ever be answered in this life.

Organized religion of all denominations is a fucking joke! I learned this in my adolescence. Wife / child beaters, local business crooks, all kinds of scum (along with decent folks) show up in church on Sunday morning and magically they are good people because they are seen in church.

Organized religions portent to have the answers, but they do not. And you cannot tell me that a baby just born or a young child is a ‘SINNER’ – this just ain’t possible. The sheeple that attend these public group meeting at a place of worship ‘as the bell tolls’ may need this group gathering so as to feel part of a group that is going to be going to heaven. Just as a drunk needs the bar room.

Stucky, Since almost childhood I ask myself on a daily basis “Where is God?”

Where is God I wonder when I walked through the Boston Children’s hospital and saw so many babies and young children with cancers of one sort or another?

Where was God when that young woman dropped that new born baby on the street corner, poured an accelerant on it and lit it on fire? The suffering that little baby endured is beyond my comprehension – I cried when I read that story here on TBP – I cried for that baby and I cried for humanity.

Where was God when that young woman was raped, beaten and then set on fire a few months ago?

Where was God when Hiltler was exterminating the Jewish people?

Where was God when we were doing the same thing to the Native American populations here?

And so it goes, on and on and on every day throughout history the world over. There are no easy answers. And apparently there are no answers at all to be had on “where is god”.

And in the very near future (days, weeks, months or a few years at most) we will be asking, maybe even begging the question – “WHERE IS GOD” when the economic system implodes, the ATM’s stop dispersing fiat, the EBT cards do not work and the store shelves have long since been stripped bare. When our dumb ass selfish bought and paid for leaders begin launching the missiles and turn part or all of the planet into fire and ashes.

flash
flash
February 15, 2015 10:26 am

BL, but lest you think otherwise, the ambiance of TBP has undergone major overhaul since James Quinn first created his blog.
Firstly it was a staunch Republican stronghold with Stucky leading the charge , who at one point in time threatened to pay admin a visit armed with a shotgun….those where the days when a newb/ie would rather jack off a tiger with barbwire in a phone booth than come on TBP mouthing some libertarian based argument against the Republican base or as I soon found out, dare disparage the holy saint of the Republican Party Ole’ Honest Abe..which I did quite frequently to all sort of hoots and jeers.. now most here think Abe wasn’t all that we were lead to believe , but more so just another mass murdering megalomaniac POS….sose anyway, my point being that if there’s enough iron in your words, the truth will prevail in the long run, if the bullshit artist don’t run your off first.

The great thing about TBP is admin allows every commenter the uncensored freedom to have their message heard, be it nonsense or truth, which as far as I know is the only blog of it’s type on the WW web. The only two people I know of that admin has ever banned is the one trick 9/11 truther David Pierre and the loquacious self-promoting anti-Capitalist Reverse Engineer.

So whatever else, TBP is never an easy row to hoe and the suns always up, but if you can take the heat, welcome to the kitchen.

flash
flash
February 15, 2015 10:42 am

Congratz Herr Stuck, 83 comments on a gravely important life versus death topic… your work here bears fruit.

“And out of that hopeless attempt has come nearly all that we call human history—money, poverty, ambition, war, prostitution, classes, empires, slavery—the long terrible story of man trying to find something other than God which will make him happy.”
― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

“My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?”
― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

“As long as you are proud you cannot know God. A proud man is always looking down on thing and people: and, of course, as long as you are looking down you cannot see something that is above you.”
― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

“When you argue against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all: it is like cutting off the branch you are sitting on.”
― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

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bb
bb
February 15, 2015 11:34 am

Stucky , you said I’m a hater. Stucky , you are right . I hate a lot of stuff and so do you big boy.You got all emotional when I said the only way to save the nation is to destroy it.I was only joking but isn’t that what a 4th turning does.It destroys in order to build a new nation.
Stucky , I do believe in order to save our country we will eventually fight another civil war with the 4th turning as the beginning of this coming war.
I noticed when you don’t like something I say you suggest banning me from the site.This is the third time you have done this.
I have never called for anyone to be kick off site.Never will.Not my site.

Bea Lever In For The Long Haul
Bea Lever In For The Long Haul
February 15, 2015 11:54 am

As Stucky pointed out, when TSHTF folks should be prepared and not depend on faith that God will save them. Agreed, but you have to be a realist. For example, a person who lives in New York or New Jersey could stockpile and prepare and they are still toast. Those people really need to get right with God because as soon as the grocery store shelves are emptied the zombies will be coming to their homes in mass. I refer to the densely populated areas of NY and NJ.

By now, most everyone has been duly warned of what is to come. Those lacking the three G’s better hope God will lend a hand. Billy has a better chance with his vast amount of skills in BFE than a city dweller with zero skills, that’s a given.

In my first post of this thread, I stated “mostly, God helps those who help themselves”. Stucky , I got your point.

Sensetti
Sensetti
February 15, 2015 12:08 pm

Stucky, bb was not here when the coppers bonked you!

flash
flash
February 15, 2015 12:34 pm

Stuck, glad to hear your mother is well and back to being her old self of mothering , which is her job…mine own mother is the ‘spittin same…often I have thought seriously about knocking her out, but then again she is the vehicle in which I arrived on this planet , so some courtesy is due there.

’bout the shotgun …maybe it was JQ retelling the comment later own , that grew it into an you threatening to show up on his porch with a shotgun…I maybe wrong and have before , but dang me if I don’t a shotgun being involved in the threat..idle as it may be….well at least JQ didn’t ratz you out to the Mommy State..clearly there are PC pussies too thin skinned to be part of the TBP poo flingers.

Gayle
Gayle
February 15, 2015 12:53 pm

Stucky

I appreciate your courage in revealing some personal issues. An angry parent -or two – is undoubtedly one of the most destructive handicaps imposed on an innocent child. Your description of the effort to regain wholeness after being raised in that environment is moving. Now, sometimes you have to have the good sense to remove yourself from the toxicity (and probably feeling guilt now and again for doing so). Despite this, you love and care for them and will continue to do so. That’s the best way to refute the evil that I can think of. Kudos.

El Siete
El Siete
February 15, 2015 1:49 pm

SSS says:

“Where’s God? We need Him here. I still believe.”
—-Stucky, from his post

Ah, you can’t shake your strong belief, can you? Despite your many anti-religious rants on this site, your faith endures, your prodigious knowledge of the Bible endures. It is a very important, perhaps THE most important, part of you. It is who you are.

Never let it go.

Stucky is the very definition of a Doubting Thomas, which is still better than a professing Judas I.

Bea Lever In For The Long Haul
Bea Lever In For The Long Haul
February 15, 2015 1:56 pm

Stucky

Rule#6- blow me.

I only inquired as I was worried you and Loopy were unable to stand under the rebel charge. You curs were whinning after only a few days of battle.I shall never grovel ,not even in my vocabulary.

Rule#7- Show Bea Lever some respect.

flash
flash
February 15, 2015 2:08 pm

Stucky -My apologies for making 9 posts here this morning. Had to make some replies and some explanations.

+100 …no apologies necessary…you TBP rules where pure comedy gold. TBP wouldn’t’ be the same place without your unpredictable commentary.

Administrator
Administrator
February 15, 2015 2:17 pm

“A man can no more diminish God’s glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, ‘darkness’ on the walls of his cell. Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither…

C. S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain

We all want progress. But progress means getting nearer to the place where you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning, then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man.”

C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity