Daily occurrence where I live. Seems every time I go out I have to scrape power chair goo off my car grill. They’re thick as thieves here in Inland Socal.
Gayle
July 9, 2015 5:36 pm
She’s too old to be a Boomer.
Tommy
July 9, 2015 5:47 pm
@Gayle, not necessarily. You’re oldest boomers are knocking on 75.
SSS
July 9, 2015 5:52 pm
“admin…..you baiting me?”
—-Tommy
Yes.
And the ding-dong is baiting himself. Admin was born in 1963. The Boomer era is 1946-1964. (Please don’t post the Strauss and Howe bullshit, Admin. No one buys their Boomer definition except them and you.)
SSS
July 9, 2015 6:00 pm
“You’re (sic) oldest boomers are knocking on 75.”
—-Tommy
WTF? Are you saying Boomers started in 1940? BEFORE WWII? The phrase “Baby Boomer” came from the explosion of births AFTER the war. The oldest boomers are knocking on 70, not 75.
Wyoming Mike
July 9, 2015 6:15 pm
Now you went and pissed off SSS. Hang on!
Tommy
July 9, 2015 6:25 pm
Strauss & Howe SSS, Strauss & Howe. You’re wrong on this one, sorry. Knocking on 75 stands – remove the knocking on and I’ll concede 74, happy? The msm has pushed the ’46 to 64′ schtick, just the way it is – but hey, maybe you can go argue with them about the foundations of their lifes work and current assumptions in their generations cycles business….I’m sure they’d love to hear your take! Make sure to insult them right off the bat too, that always gets the greetings outta the way. And you call moi a ding dong? Later retard.
Iska Waran
July 9, 2015 6:30 pm
There’s a lot to hate about Boomers, but the generation that elected FDR 4 times and let him run roughshod over the Constitution has a lot to answer for.
Gayle
July 9, 2015 6:48 pm
Tommy
The Baby Boom in question began after the GI’s returned home from World War II. It is defined as the years from 1946 to 1964. I’d bet the lady in the picture was born no later than 1936.
The Boomers take enough abuse as it is, so don ‘t make us seem older than we really are.
Stephanie Shepard
July 9, 2015 6:59 pm
I agree with Tommy that Strauss and Howe got somethings wrong.
For instance I think a generation is defined by the big events they don’t remember. Baby Boomers are suppose to start in 1946 but I think it began in the late 1930s forward. Children born in the late 30s didn’t remember the stock market boom and crash, the great depression, they would’ve had faint memories of WW2.
The biggest boomer icons were born in the late 1930s and early 1940s- The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, John Sinclair, Peter Fonda, Jane Fonda, Dennis Hopper, Abby Hoffman, Bernadine Dohrn, Bill Ayer etc.
With the Millennials I think my generation ended in the mid 1990s. I have cousins born in the late 90s and the have no memory of pre-internet era or pre 9/11. My mother is technically a Baby Boomer but she has no memory of the cold war era, leave it to beaver conformity, Cuban missile crisis, Civil Rights Movement, or JFK assassination.
Stephanie Shepard
July 9, 2015 7:22 pm
T4C- There was never an offer to interview him. I stated I would really like to interview him. While I agree with most of his theory I also understand he views the fourth turning differently because of his generational perceptions. I find that generations don’t entirely understand other generations. My generation is supposedly the “trophy generation” but trophies for everybody was more important to our parents to feel good, not us. We are suppose to be tech savvy. I disagree with this entirely. Most Millennials are not tech illiterate, they grew up with it but every year tech gets more and more “user friendly”. In the late 90s early 2000s we had to understand tech a lot more than younger Millennials. Very few of them know how to code or the evolution of the internet.
Stephanie Shepard
July 9, 2015 7:51 pm
Well Dammit, I need to email him!
Stephanie Shepard
July 9, 2015 8:26 pm
T4C- I’m not sure if that was really from him. I need to have Admin confirm it was Neil and not a troll because 4turntable.com says “server not found”.
Tommy
July 9, 2015 8:39 pm
Gayle, have you read the 4th Turning? I’m guessing no. It’s the best book in the world.
Stephanie Shepard
July 9, 2015 8:48 pm
T4C- I was going to confirm with Admin first anyway to not waste my time if it was a troll. Also, Neil’s website is lifecourse.com. I am also very much aware TBP traffic has increased and we know get the weirdos of ZH commenting.
Gayle
July 9, 2015 9:48 pm
Tommy
I confess I have not read it, due largely to the efforts of our fine Administrator to educate us about the Turning. I have read much of Generations, however, an earlier work (1990) of Strauss and Howe. In that book, they define the Boomer generation from 1943-1960.
Chicago999444
July 9, 2015 9:56 pm
That woman in the photo posted is not a Baby Boomer. She is Silent Gen. She is at least as old as my mother would be, around 82.
I really do think no one can complain about someone over 80 needing a wheeled chair.
Chicago999444
July 9, 2015 9:57 pm
Steph. the Baby Boom gen really began in about 1948. Those born before really have more in common with my parents’ Silent Generation cohort, than they do with my generation.
Stephanie Shepard
July 9, 2015 10:20 pm
Chicago- I don’t see your reasoning for a 2 year difference. The only reason Baby Boomers got their defining year of 1946 was because of the boom after the war and they were named long before Howe and Strauss. They were named by the late 1940’s press ala Life Magazine style. I don’t think the population boom was the defining moment of the beginning of the generation. I think a generation begins based on the events they don’t remember and I think their childhoods are defined based on their first memories.
As a Millennial the defining moments for my age group that we remember Bill Clinton’s election, Grunge/Alt. Rock, Nickelodeon, Monica Lewinsky scandal, the internet, Columbine, Oklahoma City Bombing, Bosnia, Gulf War, 9/11, Iraq Invasion,
What we don’t remember or faintly: Iranian Embassy Hostages, Shah of Iran, Iran-Contra, USSR, Noriega, Jimmy Carter, Energy Crisis, 1987 stock market crash, the Challenger explosion, Ronald Reagan, Punk Rock, early MTV.
robert h siddell jr
July 9, 2015 11:30 pm
Some of you kids don’t know history. My dad was a B-24 gunner Nov1943 at Tarawa and over two days shot down five zeros before getting 20 wounds (he had scars all over his body). He was saved by surgeons in Darwin & Sec Forrestal pinned his metals on but then he was discharged 100% disabled and went home to Hoboken. My mom said I was bulging in her belly and bumping into the GI’s who got off the ships from Europe after VE Day 8May1945; VJ was 15Aug1945 and I was born 25Oct1945; started school Sep1950 and my classes were very small but the next year they went to double sessions because the first huge batch of the Baby Boomers started school in 1951 (born 1946). You can push the Boomers back to 1929, say the War of Southern Secession was about slavery, claim the SCOTUS rulings on public prayer, abortion, same sex marriage, Term Limits etc are Constitutional and porno is 1st Amend speech but it does not make it so. PS: Americans are already feeling the Judgement of God (for Useful Idiots electing The Black Mahdi) in the SW and the economy; soon you’ll get The Big One, tsunamis, earthquakes, war, famine and plague.
Stephanie Shepard
July 9, 2015 11:44 pm
Robert- I fail to see how you describing your personal history correlates to “some of you kids don’t know history”. Seems like a very asinine statement followed by the rest of your incoherent rambling.
Iska Waran
July 9, 2015 11:56 pm
Steph, I enjoy your comments lately. I also like Robert’s. For the record, I was born in ’62 and I hate most of the Beatles’ music. So even some boomers can be antiboomers.
Llpoh
July 10, 2015 3:17 am
Robert – guess your dad was not 100% disabled. At least part of him was in good working order.
Billah's wife
July 10, 2015 7:36 am
Steph
I apologize, that was me. But hey! Here’s a link ter his contact info:
being a boomer my generation deserves plenty of criticism, yet the root of many of its ills go directly to LBJ, he fostered in many of current problems. just watching my friends in the mid 70’s and their child rearing style seemed odd, giving cause to wonder if fatherhood was what i had believed it to be.
Norman Orwell Body
July 10, 2015 9:58 am
Stephs right about one thing, as someone born in ’82 I hated participation trophys, they had them in soccer when was a kid and I found it insulting beyond believe and wanted nothing more than to shove it up my faggot (not homo) assed coaches ass. I hate soccer to this day because of the stupid shit they were pushing in it back then.
Stephanie Shepard
July 10, 2015 10:15 am
Norman Orwell Body- I sympathize with you. I hated the trophies and they were clutter once you took them home anyway. The reward from playing sports is actually playing the sport. As a kid it was about playing, making new friends, learning the sport and improving, as well as hoping you got to go out for pizza after the game. The trophies were silly and were just away for parents (or coaches) to indulge in themselves.
robert h siddell jr
July 10, 2015 10:32 am
Historical facts should be able to speak for themselves even when Liberals revise them to suit their ideologies; but. anecdotes like I learned from my father who fought as a US Marine in the Pacific; from Dr Wagner who fought for the Nazis on the Eastern Front; my father-in-law who was in a Front Line infantry foxhole when the Germans attacked in The Battle of the Bulge Nov1944; my grandmother who lived through the Depression and through her about her own grandmother who lived thru the Northern Invasion make it real. Maybe ramblings refers to Prophecy which takes some research and judgement. The OT prophets and Jesus have credibility and God’s modern prophets are being given much greater details about The Last Days; unfortunately Lucifer has prophets and many people are misled (Muslims for one example).. God gives warnings (ref Amos 3:7) to cause people to wake up and realize that He and His Prophecies are real and sinners better repent and conform to His thinking before it is too late. Dr Patricia Green, Efrain Rodriguez, D. Duduman, David Wilkerson, Joe Brandt are just a few who have been “tapped” by God to warn people willing to hear about what is coming. Please note that God Himself is not confused and does not ramble.
Olga
July 10, 2015 10:44 am
I was born in 1960 and have never considered myself a “boomer” – to paraphrase S&H – I was forever arriving at the amusement park only to find it trashed by the group that got there first.
When the 70’s were your formative decade and you’re growing up in rural-rustbelt Michigan the people in power all seem to be so clueless, selfish and greedy that cynicism seemed an appropriate way to go through life.
And I don’t want to get started on those stupid trophies – I repeatedly told my kids’ teachers is they weren’t first, second or third they didn’t deserve anything. This is perhaps the reason I wasn’t asked to run again after my first and last tour-of-duty on the PTA was completed.
I wish I had home-schooled but I did not see, understand or appreciate what was going on.
Norman Orwell Body
July 10, 2015 10:56 am
They were worse than just clutter, it was insulting, I cant even fully explain it in words, and don’t even get me started on how I feel about the losers that push this crap.
ragman
July 10, 2015 11:33 am
fear: exactly right about LBJ. He was the biggest POS to ever sit in our Whitehouse. His “Great Society” started us down the road to bankruptcy and the immigration act of 1965 reversed about 200yrs of immigration policy. It guaranteed our descent into 3rd world shithole status.
fear&loathing
July 10, 2015 11:42 am
i went out with two different women one in the 80′ the other in the 90’s, in each case i was 5 years older, did not take to long even in that brief gap in age we seemed to be from different genertstion. music, recent history changes and many other things influence our views
admin…..you baiting me?
Daily occurrence where I live. Seems every time I go out I have to scrape power chair goo off my car grill. They’re thick as thieves here in Inland Socal.
She’s too old to be a Boomer.
@Gayle, not necessarily. You’re oldest boomers are knocking on 75.
“admin…..you baiting me?”
—-Tommy
Yes.
And the ding-dong is baiting himself. Admin was born in 1963. The Boomer era is 1946-1964. (Please don’t post the Strauss and Howe bullshit, Admin. No one buys their Boomer definition except them and you.)
“You’re (sic) oldest boomers are knocking on 75.”
—-Tommy
WTF? Are you saying Boomers started in 1940? BEFORE WWII? The phrase “Baby Boomer” came from the explosion of births AFTER the war. The oldest boomers are knocking on 70, not 75.
Now you went and pissed off SSS. Hang on!
Strauss & Howe SSS, Strauss & Howe. You’re wrong on this one, sorry. Knocking on 75 stands – remove the knocking on and I’ll concede 74, happy? The msm has pushed the ’46 to 64′ schtick, just the way it is – but hey, maybe you can go argue with them about the foundations of their lifes work and current assumptions in their generations cycles business….I’m sure they’d love to hear your take! Make sure to insult them right off the bat too, that always gets the greetings outta the way. And you call moi a ding dong? Later retard.
There’s a lot to hate about Boomers, but the generation that elected FDR 4 times and let him run roughshod over the Constitution has a lot to answer for.
Tommy
The Baby Boom in question began after the GI’s returned home from World War II. It is defined as the years from 1946 to 1964. I’d bet the lady in the picture was born no later than 1936.
The Boomers take enough abuse as it is, so don ‘t make us seem older than we really are.
I agree with Tommy that Strauss and Howe got somethings wrong.
For instance I think a generation is defined by the big events they don’t remember. Baby Boomers are suppose to start in 1946 but I think it began in the late 1930s forward. Children born in the late 30s didn’t remember the stock market boom and crash, the great depression, they would’ve had faint memories of WW2.
The biggest boomer icons were born in the late 1930s and early 1940s- The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, John Sinclair, Peter Fonda, Jane Fonda, Dennis Hopper, Abby Hoffman, Bernadine Dohrn, Bill Ayer etc.
With the Millennials I think my generation ended in the mid 1990s. I have cousins born in the late 90s and the have no memory of pre-internet era or pre 9/11. My mother is technically a Baby Boomer but she has no memory of the cold war era, leave it to beaver conformity, Cuban missile crisis, Civil Rights Movement, or JFK assassination.
T4C- There was never an offer to interview him. I stated I would really like to interview him. While I agree with most of his theory I also understand he views the fourth turning differently because of his generational perceptions. I find that generations don’t entirely understand other generations. My generation is supposedly the “trophy generation” but trophies for everybody was more important to our parents to feel good, not us. We are suppose to be tech savvy. I disagree with this entirely. Most Millennials are not tech illiterate, they grew up with it but every year tech gets more and more “user friendly”. In the late 90s early 2000s we had to understand tech a lot more than younger Millennials. Very few of them know how to code or the evolution of the internet.
Well Dammit, I need to email him!
T4C- I’m not sure if that was really from him. I need to have Admin confirm it was Neil and not a troll because 4turntable.com says “server not found”.
Gayle, have you read the 4th Turning? I’m guessing no. It’s the best book in the world.
T4C- I was going to confirm with Admin first anyway to not waste my time if it was a troll. Also, Neil’s website is lifecourse.com. I am also very much aware TBP traffic has increased and we know get the weirdos of ZH commenting.
Tommy
I confess I have not read it, due largely to the efforts of our fine Administrator to educate us about the Turning. I have read much of Generations, however, an earlier work (1990) of Strauss and Howe. In that book, they define the Boomer generation from 1943-1960.
That woman in the photo posted is not a Baby Boomer. She is Silent Gen. She is at least as old as my mother would be, around 82.
I really do think no one can complain about someone over 80 needing a wheeled chair.
Steph. the Baby Boom gen really began in about 1948. Those born before really have more in common with my parents’ Silent Generation cohort, than they do with my generation.
Chicago- I don’t see your reasoning for a 2 year difference. The only reason Baby Boomers got their defining year of 1946 was because of the boom after the war and they were named long before Howe and Strauss. They were named by the late 1940’s press ala Life Magazine style. I don’t think the population boom was the defining moment of the beginning of the generation. I think a generation begins based on the events they don’t remember and I think their childhoods are defined based on their first memories.
As a Millennial the defining moments for my age group that we remember Bill Clinton’s election, Grunge/Alt. Rock, Nickelodeon, Monica Lewinsky scandal, the internet, Columbine, Oklahoma City Bombing, Bosnia, Gulf War, 9/11, Iraq Invasion,
What we don’t remember or faintly: Iranian Embassy Hostages, Shah of Iran, Iran-Contra, USSR, Noriega, Jimmy Carter, Energy Crisis, 1987 stock market crash, the Challenger explosion, Ronald Reagan, Punk Rock, early MTV.
Some of you kids don’t know history. My dad was a B-24 gunner Nov1943 at Tarawa and over two days shot down five zeros before getting 20 wounds (he had scars all over his body). He was saved by surgeons in Darwin & Sec Forrestal pinned his metals on but then he was discharged 100% disabled and went home to Hoboken. My mom said I was bulging in her belly and bumping into the GI’s who got off the ships from Europe after VE Day 8May1945; VJ was 15Aug1945 and I was born 25Oct1945; started school Sep1950 and my classes were very small but the next year they went to double sessions because the first huge batch of the Baby Boomers started school in 1951 (born 1946). You can push the Boomers back to 1929, say the War of Southern Secession was about slavery, claim the SCOTUS rulings on public prayer, abortion, same sex marriage, Term Limits etc are Constitutional and porno is 1st Amend speech but it does not make it so. PS: Americans are already feeling the Judgement of God (for Useful Idiots electing The Black Mahdi) in the SW and the economy; soon you’ll get The Big One, tsunamis, earthquakes, war, famine and plague.
Robert- I fail to see how you describing your personal history correlates to “some of you kids don’t know history”. Seems like a very asinine statement followed by the rest of your incoherent rambling.
Steph, I enjoy your comments lately. I also like Robert’s. For the record, I was born in ’62 and I hate most of the Beatles’ music. So even some boomers can be antiboomers.
Robert – guess your dad was not 100% disabled. At least part of him was in good working order.
Steph
I apologize, that was me. But hey! Here’s a link ter his contact info:
http://www.lifecourse.com/about/leadership-team/howe.html
being a boomer my generation deserves plenty of criticism, yet the root of many of its ills go directly to LBJ, he fostered in many of current problems. just watching my friends in the mid 70’s and their child rearing style seemed odd, giving cause to wonder if fatherhood was what i had believed it to be.
Stephs right about one thing, as someone born in ’82 I hated participation trophys, they had them in soccer when was a kid and I found it insulting beyond believe and wanted nothing more than to shove it up my faggot (not homo) assed coaches ass. I hate soccer to this day because of the stupid shit they were pushing in it back then.
Norman Orwell Body- I sympathize with you. I hated the trophies and they were clutter once you took them home anyway. The reward from playing sports is actually playing the sport. As a kid it was about playing, making new friends, learning the sport and improving, as well as hoping you got to go out for pizza after the game. The trophies were silly and were just away for parents (or coaches) to indulge in themselves.
Historical facts should be able to speak for themselves even when Liberals revise them to suit their ideologies; but. anecdotes like I learned from my father who fought as a US Marine in the Pacific; from Dr Wagner who fought for the Nazis on the Eastern Front; my father-in-law who was in a Front Line infantry foxhole when the Germans attacked in The Battle of the Bulge Nov1944; my grandmother who lived through the Depression and through her about her own grandmother who lived thru the Northern Invasion make it real. Maybe ramblings refers to Prophecy which takes some research and judgement. The OT prophets and Jesus have credibility and God’s modern prophets are being given much greater details about The Last Days; unfortunately Lucifer has prophets and many people are misled (Muslims for one example).. God gives warnings (ref Amos 3:7) to cause people to wake up and realize that He and His Prophecies are real and sinners better repent and conform to His thinking before it is too late. Dr Patricia Green, Efrain Rodriguez, D. Duduman, David Wilkerson, Joe Brandt are just a few who have been “tapped” by God to warn people willing to hear about what is coming. Please note that God Himself is not confused and does not ramble.
I was born in 1960 and have never considered myself a “boomer” – to paraphrase S&H – I was forever arriving at the amusement park only to find it trashed by the group that got there first.
When the 70’s were your formative decade and you’re growing up in rural-rustbelt Michigan the people in power all seem to be so clueless, selfish and greedy that cynicism seemed an appropriate way to go through life.
And I don’t want to get started on those stupid trophies – I repeatedly told my kids’ teachers is they weren’t first, second or third they didn’t deserve anything. This is perhaps the reason I wasn’t asked to run again after my first and last tour-of-duty on the PTA was completed.
I wish I had home-schooled but I did not see, understand or appreciate what was going on.
They were worse than just clutter, it was insulting, I cant even fully explain it in words, and don’t even get me started on how I feel about the losers that push this crap.
fear: exactly right about LBJ. He was the biggest POS to ever sit in our Whitehouse. His “Great Society” started us down the road to bankruptcy and the immigration act of 1965 reversed about 200yrs of immigration policy. It guaranteed our descent into 3rd world shithole status.
i went out with two different women one in the 80′ the other in the 90’s, in each case i was 5 years older, did not take to long even in that brief gap in age we seemed to be from different genertstion. music, recent history changes and many other things influence our views