Stucky Hops Aboard The Trump Train !!!

So, there’s the headline on Drudge this morning– “TRUMP MANIA SWEEPS PHOENIX NEW ‘SILENT MAJORITY”.

Sooooo … what the hell … maybe I should listen to this asshole before I just dismiss the billionaire insider? So, I did. Listened to the whole thing. You can also – in the background, while doing other stuff. Or, skip around and listen to random clips.  Here are my observations;

 —– No Teleprompter! Not even any notes.

 —– Actually has a good sense of humor … a good story teller

 —– You get the feeling he talks TO you … not AT you, so unlike the HNIC

 —– He considers EVERYONE a “great guy” … even Al Sharpton … just before he skewers them …. it’s funny

—– BIG disappointment, he said —- “We have to build up our military.” Ughhh!!

—– Hates Common Core

—– “I love Mexican people … thousands have worked for me …. I love legal immigration …. My wife is an immigrant …. It’s they’re leaders, they’re too smart and we have stupid leaders.”

—– Somewhat egotistical … “I’m really smart” and “I’m really rich.” …… BOO!!! ….. BUT, when you hear it in CONTEXT it’s not nearly as “offensive” as seeing the stand-alone quote …. he also has a small dose of self-deprecating humor

—– At the 29 minute mark Trump gives the microphone to a black man .. who tells a story about how an illegal immigrant murdered his son …. He said “for the first time in seven years I have hope” …. The Donald let this guy have the microphone for ten minutes …. Trump listened intently, not hurrying the guy along ……… it was a very very good move.

—–  The MOST amazing aspect of the 70 minute speech? Not even ONE fucking promise of Free Shit. Not. One.

Bottom Line:

I still have big concerns about The Donald. He’s still too militaristic. He thinks Snowden is a traitor. He simplifies very difficult issues down to a Nike-like slogan – Just Fix It. Then there’s the question of how much of an “insider” he really is … and how beholden he is to TPTB. That’s for starters.

However … I AM going to LISTEN to what he has to say from here on out. If you told me I would do that just YESTERDAY … I would have told you that you’re full of shit, followed by “Blow Me”. But, that was yesterday ……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ls3m7NUOqxs


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Anonymous
Anonymous
July 12, 2015 11:09 am

One thing is obvious about Trump: He makes his position clear and doesn’t back off or apologize for it when his enemies complain.

That’s something rare in today’s squishy mushy Republicans, and it makes me actually consider voting for him in spite of his being a Republican.

Reagan was the same, he stated what he meant and stood behind it.

starfcker
starfcker
July 12, 2015 11:40 am

T4c, come on. So just vote hillary, and she can throw snowden a parade, and the country will be fine? I think snowden is a hero and a patriot. But if the bus backs up a few times and grinds him to a pulp, and we right the ship, well, martyrdom was the choice he made.

kokoda
kokoda
July 12, 2015 12:01 pm

Just finished the vid. Yes, I mightily disagree with Trump on Snowden.
As an Independent for decades, I will vote for anybody that is not a career politician. Dem and Rep career politicians have thrown the citizens under the bus in favor of Corporates.

An icing on the cake in support of Trump is his stance against the Global Warming political agenda (where the political ideology was determined ahead of any science, and now pseudo-science is used to try to support the agenda).

starfcker
starfcker
July 12, 2015 12:13 pm

Stucky, I hadn’t noticed, but you are absolutely right, not one promise of free shit. Kokoda, the global warming thing is also huge.

bb
bb
July 12, 2015 12:17 pm

You know democrat and republican operators are going through his personal life and history looking for any thing they can use to destroy him.Politics is a zero sum game especially for the Marxist traitors in Washington .I wish him the best but he is in for a rough ride.

BuelahMan
BuelahMan
July 12, 2015 12:34 pm

Trump position on Israel

• Donald Trump maintains that Israel is our best friend.

• He thinks we should do everything we can to protect Israel

• He believes that Israel should be the cornerstone of our policy in the region.

• They’ve always been there for us and we should be there for them. They are the only stable democracy in a region that is not run by dictators. They are pioneers in medicine and communication and a close fair trading partner.

Anyone who kisses Israel’s ass is a no go.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
July 12, 2015 2:32 pm

Trump has staked out some really horrible positions – on Snowden, hyper-pro-Israel, etc. He’s expressed support for “assault weapons” bans and Single Payer, he even donated to Hillary Clinton’s campaigns. He talks in vague generalities. He’s mean and he’s arrogant, he’s obnoxious and he’s a total prick. And he’s still the best candidate yet, given that he’s the only specifically talking about building The Fence. Lest anyone forget, “more border security” and “enhanced border security” are euphemisms for leaving the border wide open. Seal the fucking border now before the Democrat Party becomes the American version of the PRI, running a 70 year dictatorship, buying support with free shit.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
July 12, 2015 2:45 pm

Trump is a side-show Stucky. Don’t waste your time on him. Also don’t forget all the “students’ he pissed on with his “Trump University”.

TC
TC
July 12, 2015 3:34 pm

Hey Stuck, what do you think Donald meant when he said “I’m sorry conservatives, but we have to take care of everyone.” Sounds like just another way of saying “free shit” to me.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
July 12, 2015 3:38 pm
lysander
lysander
July 12, 2015 4:44 pm

Does anyone really, really believe that we can vote our way out of the madness?

It’s way too late for that, my friends. You all know what will have to happen.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
July 12, 2015 5:08 pm

Lysander- Thanks for the REALITY CHECK, the monkeys have been drinking the kool-aid again.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
July 12, 2015 5:15 pm

Beauford, since I’m not an official STM, I’m a regular, I wont address that comment except to say that we need a third party to split up the Democrat black hole.

Paulo
Paulo
July 12, 2015 6:11 pm

Don’t hurt yourself when you try and get off the Trump Train (wreck).

Llpoh
Llpoh
July 12, 2015 6:12 pm

It will take leaders to start getting the world out of the mess it is in.

No one will have every answer exactly as you will want it. I simply want someone honest, who cannot be bought. I as yet do not know if Trump is honest in his positions, or whether he is pot stirring.

What I do know is there is zero chance that leaders will emerge from the left. Centrists are namby pamby, looking to please everyone. So that leaves the right. And the right have some aggressive tendencies.

BTW – I am starting to think Stuck is gay, given how fast he rolls over.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
July 12, 2015 6:53 pm

Trump doesn’t answer the fucking questions. He was asked an excellent question about the FED’s role in inflating the housing bubble and he completely dodged it. Likewise on every other question he was asked. I really don’t believe I can discern any of his real views on much of anything because he is both pandering and bullshitting to please the republican idiots (are there any other kind?).

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
July 12, 2015 7:06 pm

I just know Americans are tired of group think politics and want a leader. This is how dictators have been welcomed through out history. I’m not saying we would go that route but Trump’s surge is due to people wanting a real leader regardless of whether they agree with him on everything.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
July 12, 2015 7:24 pm

Trump reminds me of Mussolini, not so much his politics, whatever they are, but rather his bombast and body language.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
July 12, 2015 8:15 pm

So he’s going to raise import tariffs, repeal Obamacare, renegotiate NAFTA, become friends with Putin, get tough with ISIS, fast-track immigration, build up the military, shore up the VA, increase auto prices, reduce corn exports, increase taxes on international corporations..

It sounds like the root cause of America’s economic problems are illegal alien criminals. It’s somebody else, not us. There is no mention of the stock market. No mention of interest rates, the Fed, reserve currency, yes the trade deals are bad for the country but they have been good for the international corporations, it isn’t only Ford or GE, it’s also Apple selling in the US tax-free.

Keep listening, Stuck, I hope he goes after the big boys.

SSS
SSS
July 12, 2015 8:25 pm

Stucky

Your personal politics don’t interest me in July 2015. We can talk turkey somewhere around August or September of 2016.

llpoh
llpoh
July 12, 2015 8:31 pm

Stuck – I changed my mind re bankers.

Hell, I have changed my mind about you on many occasions, depending on how bad you’ve pissed me off.

I remember when you blasted and condemned everyone re liking Trump. I am just reminding you how that can come back to haunt you.

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And we ain’t much on forgettin’ or forgivin’ around here.

kokoda
kokoda
July 12, 2015 8:34 pm

Zara…several years ago, I noticed a pose by Obama that was a 100% reminder of Mussolini.

Stucky…..those running for pres. always say what they are going to do. I never, ever, heard any of these hopefuls give a disclaimer ‘if CONgress agrees’.

kokoda
kokoda
July 12, 2015 8:40 pm

Stucky….your reply to Lipoh is correct; we are always learning (or should be); as evidence mounts for or against a prior opinion, then evaluate and reconsider.

Lipoh….your last reply to Stucky gave me a chuckle, especially your 2nd line and the last line.

Rise Up
Rise Up
July 12, 2015 9:43 pm

Stucky says: Stucky says:

When Al Jazeera first appeared on our cable package I thought they were a fairly good alternative than CuNNt and Fux. …They carry waaay to many stories about the Middle East and Africa. Really stupid who-gives-a-shit story. And they give detailed scores on ….. CRICKET!! WTF? It’s a big piece of shit mooslimfuk owned station.
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Well, duh, they are owned by Qatar…what did you expect? Disney movies?

Wikipedia: Al Jazeera, literally “The Peninsula”, abbreviating “The Arabian Peninsula”), also known as Aljazeera and JSC (Jazeera Satellite Channel), is a Doha-based state-funded broadcaster owned by the Al Jazeera Media Network, which is partly funded by the House of Thani, the ruling family of Qatar.

As to Trump, he’s just a blow-hard full of himself. Someone above says he contributed to Hellary Clinton and many other Democrats, so that rules him out for me.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/donald-trump-donations-democrats-hillary-clinton-119071.html

bruce
bruce
July 12, 2015 10:35 pm

Fuck a Trump and all the rest. Voting is delusional. Burn it down.

When in anyone’s life time did voting into office any candidate stop the long slow process of social and financial decay?

When in anyone’s lifetime did freedom, liberty and justice not take a backseat when federal laws were made to “protect the people” or benefit he mega wealthy interests.

When in anyone’s lifetime under any federal administration did government not expand, become more omnipotent and take us further into debt?

When in anyone’s life time were you not blasted with propaganda, feel good bullshit and deceptions by every political party and the evermore captured media?

When in anyone’s lifetime were the big banks and central banks along with major corporations not the dominate influence over government and the political parties?

When in anyone’s lifetime did politicians not lie, weasel and deceive?

When in anyone’s’ life time were we not over taxed and over regulated’ by force of their laws?

When in anyone’s lifetime were Government agencies not used to impede competition and make regulations designed to serve and protect the major players in the industries they were charged to regulate?

When in anyone’s lifetime was did we not get involved in, contrive or blunder into wars that we had no business with or a truly moral reason for?

When in anyone’s life time were the law enforcement agencies not involved with the importation of drugs and the politicians and justice department running cover for the smuggling operations and banks laundering massive sums of cash?

When in anyone’s life time did the government not operate welfare pacification programs for the unproductive and corporate welfare subsidy profit programs for the elite at the expense of the productive that payed tax and were given the public debt to shoulder?

Go ahead and pick a politician. Vote like a good sheeple should. Do your instilled duty as a true institutionalized American minion. But when you do vote remember that a real honest American vote for freedom, liberty and justice requires that you pick up your rife and use it. And Jefferson told you so too.

Anyone gonna do that? Hell no. We are doomed.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
July 12, 2015 10:53 pm

I am picturing SSS slicing a ball into the lake of fucks he doesn’t give.

bruce
bruce
July 12, 2015 11:26 pm

Stucky said

Very very good observations, bruce.

You’re preaching to the choir.

Yeah I know, but when I post thing like this in places that are not the choir I get banned. Reality sucks, the truth hurts and being practical requires work. Most folks don’t want to hear that shit. Anyway TrumpNuts is a POS. He would lead us down a different path than the Hildabeaeast, or another BushMonkey but the destination would be the same……..Federal Domination Hell.

starfcker
starfcker
July 12, 2015 11:49 pm

Bruce, I disagree. Reagan turned around a pretty horrible situation in about 18 months.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
July 13, 2015 12:47 am

Donald Trump: A False Flag Candidate?
A warmongering racist lunatic lets loose – and he’s crazy like a fox

by Justin Raimondo, July 13, 2015

That we have to take Donald Trump seriously confirms my longstanding prognosis that we’ve entered another dimension in which up is down, black is white, and reason is dethroned: in short, we’re living in BizarroWorld, and the landscape is not very inviting. Yet explore it I must, since the reality TV star and professional self-promoter is rising in the polls, and garnering an inordinate amount of media attention – and whether the latter is responsible for the former is something I’ll get into later, but for now let us focus on what practically no one else is paying much attention to, the Trumpian foreign policy.

Right off the bat, we run into trouble, however, since the signature sound-bites that characterize the Trump style don’t really qualify as anything close to a “policy.” Yet his various effusions on this topic do indeed translate into a mindset, which one might call blowhard-ism. And as much as it resembles the semi-coherent rantings of a drunk loudly pontificating in the dark recesses of some hotel bar at a Rotarians convention, it does reflect some “serious” trends to be found in the high-toned precincts of the foreign policy Establishment, not to mention among Trump’s fellow presidential aspirants in the GOP clown show.

On Iraq, The Donald makes much of his alleged opposition to the Iraq war – a position no one has documented to my satisfaction – but now that we’re back there, what’s Trump’s plan? “We shouldn’t have been there,” he opines, and yet “once we were there, we probably should have stayed.” While this may sound bafflingly counterintuitive, not to mention flat out contradictory, you have to remember two things: 1) In Bizarro World, contradictions do exist, A is B, and the sensible is the impossible, and 2) Similar things were said about the Vietnam war by politicians less obviously nutso than The Donald. As Murray Rothbard put it in a 1968 newspaper column he wrote for the Freedom Newspapers chain:

“A lot of people throughout the country are beginning to realize that getting into the Vietnam war was a disastrous mistake. In fact, hardly anyone makes so bold as to justify America’s entrance into, and generation of, that perpetual war. And so the last line of defense for the war’s proponents is: Well, maybe it was a mistake to get into the war, but now that we’re there, we’re committed, so we have to carry on.

“A curious argument. Usually, in life, if we find out that a course of action has been a mistake, we abandon that course and try something else. This is supposed to be the time-honored principle of ‘trial and error.’ Or if a business project or investment turns out to be an unprofitable venture, we abandon it and try investing elsewhere. Only in the Vietnam war do we suddenly find that, having launched a disaster, we are stuck with it forevermore and must continue to pour in blood and treasure until eternity.”

I’m editing a new collection of Rothbard’s work, entitled The Coming American Fascism and Other Essays, due out from the Ludwig von Mises Institute pretty soon, which is where I came upon this, and it got me to thinking: maybe it wasn’t the 9/11 terrorist attacks that tore a hole in the space-time continuum and blew us into Bizarro World – maybe it happened much earlier.

At any rate, The Donald’s bloviations about staying in Iraq are nothing new: the man is a veritable volcano of well-worn bromides which he keeps stored under his toupee and emits when the occasion calls for it. Which wouldn’t distinguish him from most other politicians except for the fact that Trump’s words might as well be coming out of the mouth of a twelve-year-old. For example, in spite of his alleged opposition to the Iraq war, in 2011 he told a reporter:

“I always heard that when we went into Iraq, we went in for the oil. I said, ‘Eh, that sounds smart.’”

Which is precisely what a somewhat disturbed adolescent is wont to do: grab someone else’s lunch money if he thinks he can get away with it. Elaborating on his larcenous plan in 2011, Trump averred:

“I very simply said that Iran is going to take over Iraq, and if that’s going to happen, we should just stay there and take the oil. They want the oil, and why should we? We de-neutered Iraq, Iran is going to walk in, take it over, take over the second largest oil fields in the world. That’s going to happen. That would mean that all of those soldiers that have died and been wounded and everything else would have died in vain – and I don’t want that to happen. I want their parents and their families to be proud.”

Just like the criminally-inclined parents of a juvenile delinquent would be proud of their son’s very first bank heist. As Rothbard was fond of saying: “Are we to be spared nothing?”

Trump’s foreign policy views belie his reputation as an unconventional politician who’s willing to say what others don’t dare even think to themselves. Indeed, he sounds like most of the other GOP presidential wannabes when it comes to the pending nuclear deal with Iran:

“Take a look at the deal [Obama’s] making with Iran. [If] he makes that deal, Israel maybe won’t exist very long. It’s a disaster. We have to protect Israel. And we won’t be using a man like Secretary Kerry that has absolutely no concept of negotiation, who’s making a horrible and laughable deal.”

Is Trump willing to go to war with Iran? He positively drools at the prospect:

“America’s primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions. Let me put them as plainly as I know how: Iran’s nuclear program must be stopped – by any and all means necessary. Period. We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists. Better now than later!”

And speaking of drooling, get this:

“Who else in public life has called for a preemptive strike on North Korea?”

I’m glad you asked. The answer is: Ashton Carter and William Perry, the former the current Secretary of Defense and the latter a former Secretary of Defense. In their jointly authored book, Carter and Perry claim then-President Bill Clinton was minutes away from authorizing just such a strike before Jimmy Carter called with the news that the North Koreans were willing to negotiate. And then there’s Rep. Peter King, another loudmouth New Yorker in the Trump mold, not to mention James Woolsey, Bill Clinton’s CIA Director, as well as this guy.

So you think Trump is crazy? He may well be, but he’s just reflecting the general lunacy that afflicts large portions of the political class in this country. Far from opposing the elites, Trump is merely echoing – often caricaturing – their looniest effusions.

Speaking of loony effusions, Bill Kristol has said that he’s sick of the “elite” media dissing Trump. Dan Quayle’s Brain got out his neocon playbook to declare he’s “anti-anti-Trump.” Which is interesting, since the last time a Republican anti-immigration, anti-free trade candidate arose, Kristol and his fellow neocons were in a lather of fear and loathing: that’s because Pat Buchanan was not only one of the dreaded “nativists,” he was also militantly anti-interventionist. Buchanan dared to call out Israel’s amen corner as the agitators for Gulf War I and its successor: for that, he was branded an “isolationist,” a label affixed to him also on account of his economic nostrums. Yet those same nostrums, when given a far cruder expression by Trump, evince a kind of admiration in the Grand Marshall of the laptop bombardiers. And the reason for this is Trump’s limning of the neocons’ penchant for unabashed militarism and grandiose imperialism: The Donald told a Phoenix audience over the weekend that “I’m the most militaristic person in this room.” And his prescription for what we ought to do to counter ISIS sounds like a Weekly Standard editorial:

“I say that you can defeat ISIS by taking their wealth. Take back the oil. Once you go over and take back that oil, they have nothing. You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in. And you let Mobil go in, and you let our great oil companies go in. Once you take that oil, they have nothing left. I would hit them so hard. I would find you a proper general, I would find the Patton or MacArthur. I would hit them so hard your head would spin.”

Finally, one has to wonder about the provenance of the Trump phenomenon. Seemingly coming out of nowhere, it’s been attributed to a populist upsurge against the regnant elites, who are so out of touch with the people that they never saw what was coming. The media, we are told, are biased against Trump – this is one of The Donald’s chief complaints – and now The People are rising up against the Washington-New York know-it-alls with their “big words” and pretentious airs.

Yet this analysis is lacking in one key ingredient: the facts. For the reality is that the media, far from ignoring Trump, have lavished so much attention on him that he’s eating up coverage that would otherwise go to the rest of the crowded Republican field. And that may be a clue as to what’s really going on here….

The usual “mainstream” media tactics regarding a political outsider they hate is to ignore him or her: the example of Ron Paul should suffice to make this point. Indeed, Jon Stewart pointed this out in a memorable “Daily Show” segment, and it took Paul three runs for the White House to get their attention. Trump has suffered no such fate: quite the opposite, in fact. The Donald’s every demagogic pronouncement is faithfully recorded and broadcast far and wide. Over a hundred reporters crowded into his latest appearances in Las Vegas and Phoenix. Jeb Bush, for all the many millions stuffed into his campaign coffers, couldn’t buy that kind of exposure.

This gift to the Trump campaign is being celebrated by Democratic politicos and consultants as if it were manna from heaven. The Republican “brand,” they aver, is being sullied beyond redemption, and they’re watching this unanticipated and providential miracle from the peanut gallery with unalloyed glee.

And yet … just how unanticipated is it?

As San Francisco Chronicle columnist Debra Saunders points out, Trump is not really any kind of Republican, and, what’s more, his links to the Clintons are well-documented and close:

“In 1987, Trump registered as a Republican in New York. But in 1999, he registered with the Independence Party. In 2001, he registered as a Democrat. In 2009 he was back in with the GOP.

“Hillary Rodham Clinton sat in the front row at Trump’s 2005 wedding with Melania Knauss.

“According to Politico, Trump has donated more than $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

“In the 2006 cycle, Trump donated $5,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, $20,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, but only $1,000 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

“When Trump flirted with running for president in 2012, CNN reported he had given $541,650 to federal Democratic candidates and committees since 1990 – more than the $429,450 he contributed to GOP candidates and committees.”

National Review‘s Jonah Goldberg rips the veil off Trump’s alleged nativism in a by turns anguished-and-amused plea to his fellow conservatives not to be taken in by The Donald’s act:

“You seem to think he’s an immigration hardliner, and he’s certainly pretending to be. But why can’t you see through it? He condemned Mitt Romney as an immigration hardliner in 2012 and favored comprehensive immigration reform. He told Bill O’Reilly he was in favor of a ‘path to citizenship’ for 30 million illegal immigrants:

“Trump: ‘You have to give them a path. You have 20 million, 30 million, nobody knows what it is. It used to be 11 million. Now, today I hear it’s 11, but I don’t think it’s 11. I actually heard you probably have 30 million. You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that.’

“Question: Just how many rapists and drug dealers did Donald Trump want to give green cards to?”

Trump has been playing the media with his supposed presidential ambitions for years, but it was clear then that it was just The Donald doing what he does best – promoting himself. So why now has he suddenly turned “serious”? I give that word scare quotes because 1) Serious is not a word one associates with a clown, and 2) It’s not at all clear that, for all his megalomania, he really thinks he can win the White House. He may be a lunatic but he’s far from stupid.

And so the question jumps out at us: Why now?

Although I have no concrete proof of my theory, there’s plenty of circumstantial evidence. His ties to the Clintons, his past pronouncements which are in such blatant contradiction to his current fulminations, and the cries of joy from the Clintonian gallery and the media (or do I repeat myself) all point to a single conclusion: the Trump campaign is a Democratic wrecking operation aimed straight at the GOP’s base.

Donald Trump is a false-flag candidate. It’s all an act, one that benefits his good friend Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party that, until recently, counted the reality show star among its adherents. Indeed, Trump’s pronouncements – the open racism, the demagogic appeals, the faux-populist rhetoric – sound like something out of a Democratic political consultant’s imagination, a caricature of conservatism as performed by a master actor.

Now I realize this is a “conspiracy theory,” and, as we all know, there are no conspiracies in politics. In that noble profession, everything is completely aboveboard and on the level – right?

Like hell it is.

bruce
bruce
July 13, 2015 12:54 am

starfcker says:

Bruce, I disagree. Reagan turned around a pretty horrible situation in about 18 months.

Agreed, but all of the corporate/banker puppets except LBJ, The Bushmonkey and the Ojackulator manged to do things that might seen as positive. None stopped the trend, all brought us more debt. They all expanded the size, costs and power of central federal government. They all brought tyranny to us in steps .They all made enemies in the world by policy rather than for just cause. They all meddled in the affairs of other nations. They all allowed the US taxpayer to be bent over for Israel. Regan was Unionist Federal scum like all the rest. All enemies of liberty. Free the States and death to the Federal System of oppression, exploitation and war.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
July 13, 2015 1:07 am

starfcker says:

Bruce, I disagree. Reagan turned around a pretty horrible situation in about 18 months.
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No. Paul Volcker did, appointed by, ahem, Jimmy Carter.

BEA LEVER
BEA LEVER
July 13, 2015 1:37 am

I remember when Jimmy Carter was portrayed as the “outsider” candidate. “Oh, he’s different he is not part of the Washington establishment” they would say………..(cough). I openly laughed and said he is CFR and a Tri-Lateralist and you don’t think he is an insider, my Gawd how dumb.

I knew just how it would turn out with Carter, and it did, but nobody listened. They just saw him in his work boots walking across the rows of peanuts on his farm………damn he’s just like us, a regular working stiff.

There will ALWAYS be that guy that says what you want to hear……that seems to be on your side, who feels your pain. Then after he has charmed you into casting your vote, he turns out to be just like all of the other lying bullshit artists that TPTB conned you into believing.

This will never end until you stop being chumps.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
July 13, 2015 1:43 am

BEA LEVER says:

I remember when Jimmy Carter was portrayed as the “outsider” candidate. “Oh, he’s different he is not part of the Washington establishment” they would say………..(cough). I openly laughed and said he is CFR and a Tri-Lateralist and you don’t think he is an insider, my Gawd how dumb.
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I’m going to disagree with this to the extent that the first thing the Washington establishment did was go after his Georgia pals with trumped up, bullshit scandals. Namely Hamilton Jordan and Bert Lance.

BEA LEVER
BEA LEVER
July 13, 2015 2:49 am

Z- Those damn yankee beltway insiders may not have been thrilled with the “Georgia Mafia” package deal they got when Carter moved in the WH but they did not attack Jordan and Lance right off the bat. Bert lance was a crooked bankster and Jordan was not attacked with smear tactics until the very end of Carter’s presidency. That was the usual dog and pony show when they are ready for the Conservative/Republican con to come into play in the next election cycle.

That has nothing to do with the fact that Carter was a member of the CFR and a Tri-Lateralist and he was as connected as you can get yet John Q. Dumbass thought he was just a friggin peanut farmer. Sheeesh.

Frodus
Frodus
July 14, 2015 12:48 am

Paul Volcker, well that’s a name Ive not heard is sometime i must say! what made Volcker so admiral during during the Reagan years? we fro starters Reagan listened and fallowed threw best he could with a total democrat control of both houses. Not unlike Carter who was lost as a leader, and did listen to Volcker what so ever.

So let me get this straight Trump wants Snowden locked up and yet he wants to be best friends with Putin, I completely get it. So reading between the lines Snowden no legal way to get the info out to the pubic with out breaking the law and going over seas. Trump approaches it from protecting a business secrets i completely get it, he is not informed and doesn’t have all the access to what and why Snowden did what he did, will he change his mind when and if makes it to the top. this is yet to be seen hard make clear decision without all the top secret info he doesn’t have access to.

Trump pouring money in the DNC for favors to get thing done.. yep that’s out the norm right? riding both sides of the fence when your not running for office, yep that out the norm right ?

Trump friendly militarily and a interventionist in foreign affairs, last time i looked our world was governed by the aggressive use of force! has this all of a sudden changed? I think not, will ever change i think not…

Common sense tells me Trump has 2 goals in mind, unlike Reagan, trumps is looking out for his own self interest foremost, which might not such a bad thing if it alines with what the country needs now. The second thing is he is pissed off at the way things are going not just for him but everyone else to. As you already know is depressing as hell, and isn’t going to get fixed anytime soon regardless who win the white house.

I will say this tho, my hopes are that he burns a clear path right slap threw the RNC, hell for that matter burn the bitch down and blow it up!! I personally i cant think of an organization that needs it more. But Ross Perot he is not.

I really have to touch on the this Israel thing that seems to be floating around this site, How is possible that the Israeli lobby in Washington has more control and power than say the Corporate lobby which has many more times the money and lawyers than Israel, why are most of the noble prizes held by Israelis.Why is it the most of the world alined against .0001 percent of the worlds population, Why are the friends of Israel so far and few between? Nixon was a known for not being a friend of Israel but yet he saved them from being wiped off the map. Oh how times have changed, Jordon, Egypt, Saudi are all lining up to befriend Israel hoping to stop Iran sphere of influence on a global scale. Why are Israelis being attached more so now much the the days of the Nazis.Why is it ok for Egypt to build a fence and destroy home to create a buffer zone to keep the Gaza terrorist out of their territory but not Israel. questions? why doesn’t anyone on a global scale the the Palestinian people are pawns of the Arabs, Lebanon has them is camps, Jordan has them in camps, and will not allow them to assimilate in the culture much less allow them to have a political voice. Pawns of a larger picture they are.

Military corporate complex has vastly more power.

Their is a means to and end to American intervention in the Mideast that’s far more complex than is known; fact Arabs kill far more of their own that than all all the wars combined, Fact : Give them guns and let them fight amongst themselves: is cheaper, But is still doesn’t negate the fact that the world as it is know today is still governed by the aggressive use of force. This is a undeniable fact.

Not a war on terror, this is code words for a war on a religious political base ideology that threatening westernized form of government corrupt as it maybe but nevertheless it is what we have.Whether we like it or not the Mideast will be brought into the 21 century kicking an screaming if they like it or not.

Central planing will always fail its just a matter of time, kill individuality and boom yourself to the inevitable consequences of the failures of the past. Grant goals of a united europe are the perfect example, Im just sitting thing of the U.S and what world world be like with out it….. will their every be a perfect system, i think not.

For give my English its not my first language. .

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
July 14, 2015 1:07 am

Zarathustra says: starfcker says: Bruce, I disagree. Reagan turned around a pretty horrible situation in about 18 months.
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No. Paul Volcker did, appointed by, ahem, Jimmy Carter.

I’ve heard both versions: 1. Carter’s policies gave fruit after Reagan took office. 2. Reagan’s easy money policy brought the nation back from the brink.

I’ve also heard Volcker was the last Fed chief willing to grab the economy by the balls and squeeze it into submission. All subsequent Fed chiefs have been content to stroke the economy in the hope of arousing it.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
July 14, 2015 1:18 am

Frodus, you got your message across. Trump says he knows how things work in Washington, I suspect all he knows is how how to grease palms. It sounds like he’ll outdo Obama and pay off everybody – ISIS, Russia, Mexico.. How can he say he will force Mexico to pay for the wall when he can’t get anything done in Washington without paying the vig? He sounds like a rube. A power politician knows how to twist arms without paying a cent. That doesn’t sound like what Trump is selling.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
July 14, 2015 1:27 am

EC,

Volcker killed inflation by jacking up interest rates. It created a very severe recession, but one that didn’t last long and paved the way for the growth in the mid-late 80’s.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
July 14, 2015 1:40 am

Agree. Also, notice a lot of construction goes on during recessions, hmm? I think that is when low rates make it easier for builders. It was not an easy time, mortgage rates were up to 16%. I’m not sure I would call it paving the way any more than squeezing your dick while peeing paves the way for a strong flow. It’s late, I’m getting crude and DRUD will call me a dick once more.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
July 14, 2015 2:01 am

EC

on the other hand, it led to the collapse of the Savings and Loan industry as they were stuck with 6% 30 yr mortgages.