Sorry, 3 parts. How long will Donald Trump stay in the republican race? If he stays in, can he win the nomination? If he wins the nomination, can he beat Billary?
Question of the Day, July 23
Sorry, 3 parts. How long will Donald Trump stay in the republican race? If he stays in, can he win the nomination? If he wins the nomination, can he beat Billary?
Don’t care. Don’t care. Don’t care.
He’ll stay in the race until the establishment call him into a room and threaten to destroy his real estate empire and/or his family. (aka Perot)
He can’t win the nomination because those who control who wins the nomination (not the voters) won’t let him win.
He won’t get a chance to defeat the next Shrew in Chief.
Agreed, Admin. It’s all a rigged game
I believe he’ll use the GOP until early 2016 at the earliest. Do you think DONALD TRUMP gives a damn about the Republican Party? Hell no. Trump isn’t going to go knocking on doors in Iowa and New Hampshire in the middle of winter drumming support for his primary bid. Come Groundhog Day (February 2nd), The Donald will not see his shadow and declare his candidacy as an Independent, stealing the GOP spotlight from the recently held Iowa primary (February 1st). This is, of course, assuming he puts his money where his mouth is and is willing to spend up to a billion of his personal fortune on the election.
See admins comment for an explanation of my comment.
The game is rigged against independents. The parties control the ability to get on the ballots. There are too many hoops, rules, regulations, etc. for an independent to have a chance.
They would also keep him out of the debates.
“Shrew in chief” very funny.
Bob.
The big D has done so much damage to the creditability of the Repuke party that he can quit now and still declare an outstanding victory won for the American people by exposing the phony party of limited government for what they truly are, back stabbing , treasonous , corporate whores more concerned about their campaign contributions than protecting American sovereignty .
Next up,Donald should call for trials of treason for all congressional enemies of We the People.
The Donald has done this country a great service and should be applauded for it .
And more fire in the hole for McStain here: Now that Trump has opened a hole in rampart, the scappers are pouring in…this breech will not likey be closed again.
Let the show trails begin..
Trump Opens McCains Treasonous Can of Worms
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor on July 20, 2015
The Donald Doubles Down on His “McCain Not a War Hero” Statements
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By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
Over the weekend, “the Donald” backed down on his attacks on McCain, calling “Hanoi John” a “war hero.”
However, Donald is not going to be able to close the can of worms he opened. Today, McCain is trying to wrap himself in the POW flag for cover. POWs had never been rock star heroes before, quite the opposite. These are people who surrendered to the enemy, people suspected of collaboration and worse. With Korea, POWs became the shame of America with many “brainwashed” into following communist doctrines.
American POWs from Vietnam were the bloody flag Richard Nixon wrapped himself in, on the advice of Henry Kissinger, part of a ploy to divert attention from his endless personal failings which included his agreement with North Vietnam that let them keep and later execute hundreds of American POWs. 1205 American POWs were kept by North Vietnam according to records recovered at the end of the Cold War. President’s Clinton and Yeltsin instituted a search of Russia’s gulags looking for their remains with no success. In 1993, armed with testimony from a former high ranking Czech security official, I proposed a systematic search of archives in Prague that recorded the fate of 200 missing US POWs from Vietnam but was blocked by Senator John McCain.
33 POWs faced execution for treason after Vietnam until Nixon pardoned all POWs. McCain was on the list of the 33, in fact at the head of it.
Here are the facts as we know them:
According to Colonel Ted Guy, John McCain’s commander as a POW, McCain collaborated with the enemy.
McCain is accused of giving information that led to the downing of 60 US aircraft
McCain is accused of training North Vietnamese air defense personnel
McCain is accused of making over 30 propaganda broadcasts against the US, broadcasts he moved to have classified when he was elected to the senate
These 4 accusations are the only real and supportable accusations against McCain. The evidence for these acts exists and is substantial. What is stranger still is McCain’s longtime war against veterans, other POWs and their families. When John was a bit younger and better capable of looking after himself, he was often both verbally and physically abusive to POW families, POW activists and veterans. We hear nothing of these brutal outbursts of McCain’s though they continue to this day, now taken as the ravings of a mental defective.
The door Donald opened should be kept open. We need to examine the POW phenomenon. After Vietnam, we allowed Nixon to glorify POWs while abandoning hundreds. The facts came to light during the late 1990s when tapes of conversations between Nixon and Kissinger were made public, for moments, with Kissinger admitting that American POWS held outside North Vietnam, in Laos, Cambodia and the South, were purposefully not included in the agreements, a number Kissinger put at over 200.
These tapes were cleaned from the media and are not available to even researchers, were such interested parties to exist, which they do not.
Vietnam was a useless war. I served in Vietnam as a Marine combat infantryman and know the war well close up.
Those of us that served felt abused and exploited and suffered far worse at the hands of Nixon and subsequent leaders who backed away from those of us who served as honorably as possible while engaging in a nutty frenzy of POW worship.
Trump is right, those who surrender are generally not heroes. Some were however, like Ted Guy, a man taken on the ground fighting, killing 4 of his captors.
Guy, however, is only one of many thousands, many many thousands, from Vietnam that should have received some aspect of recognition in a war where many more thousands lived like gods. Vietnam was a scam, drugs, prostitution, black market, the best food and hottest parties in the world for many who came home from the war with medals on their chests for doing nothing whatsoever.
I might add, the Saigon press club war correspondents were the worst of all, living like kings on little boys and little girls while being occasionally flown for “10 minutes of war” with a general, then back to the clubs and brothels. They all should have been locked in FEMA camps, were such things to exist.
As for the Donald, he should demand that, minimally, the American public be able to hear McCain’s broadcasts and see the records of his debriefing and read the statements made against him by other POWs, including and especially Colonel Ted Guy.
This man, if you wish to call him that, “McCain” has been allowed to destroy America’s security for two generations, along with friends like “light loafer Lindsey” Graham and others.
In one instance alone, the F35, McCain has personally destroyed America’s defense capabilities for 25 years. This is his plane, his project, his monstrosity.
There hasn’t been a defense scam in decades that hasn’t had his hand prints on it. Time for Trump to get serious and show some backbone. McCain is a hard target, time for Trump to stop bashing the easy guys and take this one on.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/20/trump-opens-mccains-treasonous-can-of-worms/
Back in PA Mike
Ahhhh …….. the format has now advanced to a 3-parter!! Nice.
I solemnly promise not to STEAL that!! 🙂
1. How long will Donald Trump stay in the republican race?
As Admin stated, The Machine is already conspiring to bring him down. I posted a brief quote yesterday whereby Bill Clinton and Jeb Bush have decided to take down Trump. I expect a series of BIG LIES, character assassinations (as if Trump needed help), threats, a concentrated and relentless media attack on all fronts …. who can stand up to that, and for how long? All that being said, I’m wildly guessing here, but I think Trump would like to make it to at least the first debate. And then quietly fade into the sunset.
2. If he stays in, can he win the nomination?
Absolutely Impossible. You can NEVER win with only the support of the PEOPLE! What do you think this is? A democracy?? If mathematically possible, he has less than zero support from The Party.
3. If he wins the nomination, can he beat Billary?
Irrelevant (see #1 and #2). But, you did say “IF”. Yeah, IF Trump gets so far as to win the nomination, then it means that some Really Major Shit is going on in this country. Yes! IF Trump gets that far, then I would say he’s good to go all the way to the top.
All things considered, I’d prefer “TRUMP” across the facade of the White House than that God forsaken rainbow light display after the Supreme Court ruling.
As far as running for President apart from the GOP or Democratic Party, yes, the odds are incredibly stacked against you. However, that’s where being a billionaire comes into play. Trump will have to spend millions to get enough ballot signatures to be eligible in all 50 states. Look at the recent videos though where people signed a petition to remove 12 Years a Slave from Netflix. Give the petitioner a pen, clipboard, script, and they’ll get the sheep’s signatures. There are plenty of Starfcker’s out there willing to organize that effort.
Even if every nasty allegation you can imagine is thrown at Trump, and it will be, I don’t think it’ll sink a guy with his ego. I see Trump as the Orc from Lord of the Rings who was handed a bomb during the battle of Helms Deep and blew open the fortified entrance. I don’t think Trump will win, but if he’s got a set of balls half the size of his mouth he’ll fall on his sword (Bernie Sanders, too) and create the necessary chaos for 2016 with four candidates (Trump, Sanders, Clinton, and Bush). If Trump backs down with an excuse like Perot, he’ll have taken his candidacy too far not to lose a lot of his empire. He can lose it like a man and do something good with his life or lose it all in abject shame and disgrace. Let’s hope it’s the former.
Trump is a drill bit for Jeb, when he wears out the tough stuff is loose. Trump’s designed to fail.
No chance he wins for reasons already explained but i honestly like him in it.
Now i don’t/won’t vote on principal but he brings a level of absurdity to politics that is showing people who previously have failed to see how much of a bullshit clusterfuck circus this political kabuki theater really is. He is removing the curtain that puts up the fascade of credibility and tactfulness.
At the gymn each morning i am treated to something this ahole does and i love it, the last one being the broadcasting of grahams phone number, classic adolescent pranking. Because that is what politics is, acting like a cliquish bitchy scumbag in high school who cares about popularity polls/contests.
He must be on Hillary’s secret payroll. Trump is rich, but he is working for Hillary with every spoken word.
Donny Chump is only in this as the Perot type spoiler at the behest of the owners. He will never get the Repugnant nomination. He is there to assure Hitlery’s win.
NEWS FLASH…………………MSN NEWS posted today that Donny Chump announced that he will run as a independent if he does not get the Rep. nomination.
Wow, what a surprise………..here it comes chumps, you never fucking learn this game.
Maybe Trump will make it easier for a republican to grow a set of balls and stop pandering for votes.
HaHaHaHaHaHa!! Who am I trying to kid…….fuck them all.
The only chumps are those of the Repuglican party who keep believing the “limited government” lies while the pugs expand the warfare/corporate state welfare at a rate that would make Adolph Hitler blush .
The Republican Party is the party of treason and Trump is showing it up for what it truly is..hopefully the Donald will run third party driving the final stake in the heart of the party of back-stabbing vermin.
Donald Trump threatens GOP with third-party run
By Nick Gass
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/donald-trump-gop-third-party-independent-candidate-120521.html
Too many of you are looking at Trump’s candidacy solely from the angles presented by various opinions in the mainstream and alternate media. Isn’t everyone here disgusted about the way things are going?! We’re commenting on The Burning Platform for a reason. I totally understand many of us feel frustrated, defeated, fatalistic, and unable to do a damn thing about it but watch as the country languishes. I feel that way many times myself. But please, at least consider looking at it this way:
Trump, Sanders, and the potential for absolute chaos.
I concede I may look back on this post in 16 months and think it was naïveté at its finest. I don’t assume my opinion is the way things must occur or how you should think. That said, I’ll say this again: personal opinions aside, we should cheer for Trump to remain in the race. If he gets ~15% of the popular vote in November 2016 (and so does Bernie Sanders), leaving Jeb and Hillary with ~35% each, it will create absolute chaos for the winner. People will throw a fit if Bush or Clinton wins with 50%… Imagine the fuel on the fire if Hillary claims presidential authority with two thirds of the votes cast against her, especially if it occurs in the midst of the coming financial crisis. Many of us believe in the theory of the Fourth Turning and it’s well overdue for a climatic ending. Every 70-80 years in this here American Republic (Empire since the early 1860s if you ask me) there has been upheaval and there’s a historical pattern for that trend going back thousands of years. It’s about that time again, folks.
I personally don’t want Trump or Sanders, but I will gladly vote for either to foster the potential overhaul of federal governance. We’re DECADES beyond changing the system by voting the incumbent out of office so new GOP or Democratic blood arrives and makes the same deleterious decisions the previous representative did in short order. If there’s ANY chance at reordering the affairs and priorities of this nation, it MUST occur in the midst of a crisis. The best hope the powers that be have is a false flag or actual terrorist attack, which will be used to declare martial law and clamp down on any opposition. However, as long as we keep the flow of alcohol, entertainment, and cheap Chinese products, just like TPTB are doing as we speak, we can get the majority of folks to eventually go along with our cause because they’re more concerned with sweating the petty things and petting the sweaty things while you and I are here to give this generation and especially the next a better opportunity.
Trump is our next president.
Congrats Starfcker
You have been selected as the chairman of the “Chumps for Chump” campaign in your state.
Flash- And you call me shit for brains………………enjoy Hitlery for eight years bud. That will really teach the repugnants a lesson??????
Bea Lever-do you really believe that the Repuke party represents We the People in any way.
If you do,you prolly are in dire need a deep rinse enema , cause’ all that shits went to your head.
Repukes are the party of hear no evil ,see no evil and smell no evil…
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Flash- You know I believe the whole system is a SHAM-WOW enterprise. I haven’t believed in the two party illusion since I was eighteen years old. It’s entertainment for the sheep……..keep eating your popcorn.
Once and for all Flash – I dislike the Repukes as much or more than you…….got it ??
BL – I dislike the Repukes as much or more than you
then why all the bellyaching about Trump being the Republican spoiler and thus the catalyst the coming 8 year reign of the lizard queen?
Flash- are you asking me would I rather have terminal cancer instead of a heart attack to kill myself or should I go with suicide as a better choice………either way I’m dead. The Republic is dead, stick a fork in it if we get either Repukes or Demoncrats for eight more years. No third party candidate will be the winner. What is left……revolt or love your enslavement. Refuse to play. Demand something different, this game is getting old.
Flash- Am I missing something? Maybe you could splain to me how we would benefit from eight years of Hitlery and the complete demise of this Republic fubared beyond all hope.
As others said, Trump is a spoiler and/or controlled opposition, working against the interests of the very people who are clamoring to support him.
I think he covertly supports the ultimate Demoncrat candidate, but I’m not sure that Hillary is that candidate. I think the Klintons have powerful enemies in the Dem party, and Hillary may very well get the nomination snatched away from her once again. Don’t be surprised if some Jose-nobody hispanic politician that most of us haven’t yet heard of becomes the nominee, with a lesbian running mate just for good measure. The self-hating liberals will have a field day and the republicans will be divided between someone useless like McSame and a fake spoiler like Trump. The Bilderbergers / Fabian Socialists / NWO controllers will be in the back room like they always are, cheering their victory once again.
BL -Maybe you could splain to me how we would benefit from eight years of Hitlery and the complete demise of this Republic fubared beyond all hope.
Easy.Two left-wing parties of back stabbing corporate owned globalist pawns are two to many. With the demise of one, a true party of liberty minded American has a chance to arise….mind you, I said a chance .With the two parties of one oligarchy now dominating the American political system , there is zero chance of that. And, a slim chance is better’n none…got it now?
Flash- How could that happen without all out “total war” assassination of the new and improved political order of which you speak. I am on tender hooks to learn as to how this would be pulled off.
Jebus Flash, how would you ever get this past the MSM and the stupid sheep and the FSA and the JOOS, don’t forget the JOOS. Slim chance is putting it mildly.
I once had the FCC punt when I put before them the question raised by one of the TV networks whether Harry Browne (Libertarian candidate for Pres) was a “bona fide” candidate. This TV network had questioned whether Browne was bona fide in a request for infomercial airtime (which wasn’t free) even though the Lib party is the nation’s 3rd biggest (behind u kno hoo)
I doubt very much if anything has changed.
Flash,,,,,,still waiting for the plan. I’m seriously hoping you really have one.
BL …WTF are you going on and on about. The plan… WFP? Hows does eliminating a party of establishment corruption necessitate a back-up plan? WYFP??? Keep voting the same stupid expecting to limp along with a taste of freedom and a jack-boot up your backside keeping you motivated to lick boot and suck ass for how much longer?
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
― Samuel Adams
happy now? ..now please fuck off.. I have no time for morons.
Wester ..Harry Browne was a great statesmen and greatly missed…I supported him 100% .
Everything you want in life has a price connected to it. There’s a price to pay if you want to make things better, a price to pay just for leaving things as they are, a price for everything.
Harry Browne
A great burden was lifted from my shoulders the day I realized that no one owes me anything.
Harry Browne
Left-wing politicians take away your liberty in the name of children and of fighting poverty, while right-wing politicians do it in the name of family values and fighting drugs. Either way, government gets bigger and you become less free.
Harry Browne
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When one kills a snake, does one need another plan to create a replacement snake…and for what purpose? sheesh.
Flash- So you advocate anarchy? And I am not CLEAR on how eight years of Hitlery would kill the snake………………TPTB will find you a replacement snake. Who is the moron, moron?
Paulo says: He must be on Hillary’s secret payroll. Trump is rich, but he is working for Hillary with every spoken word.
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Could be but he declared Hellary as a terrible Secretary of State a day or two ago. Don’t think he’d talk like that about her if he was secretly in her camp or colluding with her. But who knows?
John Angelo says: If he gets ~15% of the popular vote in November 2016 (and so does Bernie Sanders), leaving Jeb and Hillary with ~35% each, it will create absolute chaos for the winner. People will throw a fit if Bush or Clinton wins with 50%… Imagine the fuel on the fire if Hillary claims presidential authority with two thirds of the votes cast against her, especially if it occurs in the midst of the coming financial crisis.
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Very good point, Mr. Angelo!
I like Trump being in the race if only because he is vocalizing many things that conservative voters want said but their lame-ass politicians won’t speak of. He is beholden to no one and doesn’t need to pander for campaign funds. It may all be some master plan and deception, but in the meantime, it’s shaking up things in a positive way if you like what he has to say.
I am not voting anyway (see Admin’s comments to see why voting is total folly).
But, Rise Up , you must vote the Republican candidate , because they’ll appoint conservative supreme court justices.and…and , the Republican party is the party of limited government …and …and…jobs….and …and …and bomb Iran….and …and…small business…and…and family values….and…and Christian faith….and American sovereignty…and …and purtecting our border.s..and…and…freedom…and…and for the children.