YAY or NAY

Enough of trivial matters like global debt, Supreme Court justices, stock market crashes, and presidential politics. The really important matter of the day is whether a size 16, 170 pound woman should grace the cover of Sports Illustrated in a bikini. As a young boy I subscribed to Sports Illustrated and waited breathlessly for the swim suit issue to arrive. The picture of Cheryl Tiegs wearing a see through white bathing suit is still burned in my memory. I saved what I considered famous editions of SI, and that edition made the cut. For some reason the pages stick together. I think the box is somewhere in my basement storage area.

I personally think Ashley Graham is hot. I’m a big fan of 38Ds. I wish AWD was around to comment. He loved Kate Upton, and she is certainly a full figured gal.

So, my question of the day is: Is Ashley Graham too fat to be on the swimsuit cover of Sports Illustrated?


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Friedchikenlaquesha
Friedchikenlaquesha
February 16, 2016 8:21 am

YAY!!!!!

I be the next ho on the cover. Big gals is sexy. Especially when our fingers are greasy.

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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
February 16, 2016 8:32 am

I’m surprised they’re still featuring women.

JIMSKI
JIMSKI
February 16, 2016 8:39 am

I’d hit that………

flash
flash
February 16, 2016 8:42 am

This is liking asking… sure you can haz the flashy and sleek Maserati, but aren’t you just as a happy riding in your ol’ reliable and affordable mini van?

Stay tuned for further programming…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HplYOYFWK8

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 16, 2016 8:46 am

Worst cover choice ever.

Maybe their only bad choice for that matter.

mike in ga
mike in ga
February 16, 2016 8:55 am

This lovely lass, Ashley, is a perfect specimen of healthy fleshiness and not only NOT “too fat” to be on the cover of SI but does her gender great favor by being there. She is beautiful in face and figure, her skin is smooth and clear, she has a dark mane of shoulder length hair that accentuates both her full red lips and her open, trusting eyes. She is a perfect candidate to restore the deeper meaning of Hopes and Dreams, after its recent sullying by political overuse. Her body heat alone – and that of every man within her sight – would be a non-negligent contributory factor to Global Climate Change. In short, Ashley is the red-blooded, full-figured American woman of every young man’s dreams, (and some older ones, ahem!) and has my vote for SI.

flash
flash
February 16, 2016 8:59 am

Admin, years back a couple friends and I happened to be in mall in Dallas Texas where Cheryl Tiegs was promoting a new cosmetic line and signing autographs. Of course we had to have a closer look ( she wore little if any make-up)and came to the unanimous conclusion that the merchandise was definetly not as marketed.
We came away from that table no longer the blissful albeit ignorant purveyors of all things airbrushed, but had took our first timid step into the stark and often disappointing realities of adulthood and away from the disillusionment of youthful fantasies..It was indeed a lesson in the deceptive practices of the creature of two faces..we survived.

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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
February 16, 2016 9:14 am

I’d never heard of her before so I did a search and found her TED talk where she basically stares into a mirror and compliments herself.

Unless she’s dropped sixty+ pounds since that video was made she would easily qualify as “obese”. My guess is that they photoshopped the hell out of it.

Here’s the thing: how can you talk about “societies view of beauty” to excuse your eating disorder while at the same time wearing three pounds of makeup and wearing skimpy clothing designed to accentuate your female parts? Isn’t there an inherent contradiction in that? And if you’re going to blame society for it’s standards of beauty while you are the one featured in lingerie advertisements and on the SI swimsuit cover, aren’t you being completely hypocritical? It’s like the current President complaining about “institutional racism” from the Oval Office.

Mahtomedi
Mahtomedi
February 16, 2016 9:19 am

This has to be part of the feminist plot to brainwash young male minds into believing that ‘chunky’ is not only acceptable but also beautiful. It won’t ever be with me.

I also subscribed to SI as a teen. I vote Christie Brinkley as all-time-best-hot-swimsuit-babe-evah!

Ashley Graham
Ashley Graham
February 16, 2016 9:31 am

They’re real and they’re spectacular!!!!

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Stucky
Stucky
February 16, 2016 9:34 am

Admin —- you violated the NO NIP rule big big big time!!! Let’s see if SSS has the balls to deal with you as his morals dictate he should.

mike in ga —– excellent and very very true summary. I can’t believe two dicks voted you down!

Stucky
Stucky
February 16, 2016 9:39 am

To answer the question —- YES!! She deserves to be on the cover!!

Have you ever seen a skinny babe in a Renaissance painting? No!!! Skinny was considered UGLY. The poor and wretched were skinny. Biggy Babes really were bold and beautiful.

Society’s version of “beauty” constantly changes.

Don’t have to go back to the Renaissance. Just go back to the ’50’s …………

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Stucky
Stucky
February 16, 2016 9:43 am

Even leg humping angels were fat !

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flash
flash
February 16, 2016 9:44 am

Sport Illustrated is clearly involved in a Edward Bernays type mass marketing campaign to subtly re-educate the American male that somehow the modern population of lazy lard ass women is now the new normal and should be accepted as such. But, it won’t work and the harder these SJW scum push to justify fat and stupid, the more popular sex bots will become..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTc-6JPF9o0

flash
flash
February 16, 2016 9:52 am

Stuck..I call B/S …more dark age myth.

The Myth Of The Medieval BBW
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/the-myth-of-the-medieval-bbw/

“What about Rubens?!” squeal the fatties. Well, many of Rubens’ late medieval European contemporaries, such as Botticelli and Cranach, painted slender babes. And Rubens himself deviated from his fat fetish to paint normal weight women. Furthermore, it is likely that Rubens was not painting masturbation material for the masses. If he was, he probably would have ended up like Francisco de Goya, who *did* paint erotically posed slender women.

Goya was summoned by the Spanish Inquisition to explain who commissioned the “obscene” art. I don’t know what Goya told them but he lost his job as the Spanish court painter, and this was as late as the early 19th century, though in southern Europe. Goya’s nude maja comes close to modern erotic pinup art/photography and is the type of art that is most likely to represent the artist’s preferences or those of his contemporaries, but it doesn’t depict an overweight woman. What were the chances of a painter coming up with something similar when the Church ruled?

If your paintings would have caused hard-ons to spring up among the drooling public, the Church would have had a word with you.

Bottom line: There is no evidence that Rubens’ paintings of unpleasantly plump women were representative of the kind of women that most men of his time considered hot. Except for a few weird outliers like the Mauritanians and fatty fuckers like Rubens, and allowing for some minor variation in female attractiveness standards between the major races, the vast majority of men across cultures and historical generations have lusted for thin young women (BMI 17 – 23) with 0.7 waist-hip ratios and feminine dispositions. No amount of railing against the “system” or engaging in sophistic pseudoacademic hocus-pocus is gonna change this fact.

The Metamorphoses of Fat: A History of Obesity – reviewed by Dr Katherine Harvey
http://centreformedicalhumanities.org/the-metamorphoses-of-fat-a-history-of-obesity-reviewed-by-dr-katherine-harvey/

Divided into six chronological sections the book opens with Part 1 (‘The Medieval Glutton’), which focuses on attitudes to obesity between the twelfth and fifteenth centuries. At a time when famine was common and most Europeans were hungry (and consequently thin), fat symbolised wealth and power. At the beginning of this period, the bodies of the obese attracted little comment; size became an issue only if an individual was too large to perform his duties. But concern about the dangers of obesity was building. Clerics worried about the vice of gluttony (indicative of a troublesome lack of self-control), and doctors warned that extreme obesity could endanger individual health. The emergence of a ‘courtly culture’ based on refinement and grace produced new bodily ideals, and by the fifteenth century some high-status women were actively trying to lose weight.

Part 2 (‘The “Modern” Oaf’) explores the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, uncovering two key trends. The first is a growing emphasis on the slowness, laziness and ignorance of ‘the fat’, who became a target for satire and contempt. In literature, obese characters were figures of fun or objects of denigration. Artistic representations were less hostile, but equally stereotypical, with the obese individual usually depicted as ‘a perfectly round sphere.’ The second key trend is an increase in efforts to understand and care for the obese body. Although medical understandings of fat were still based on humoral theory, there was increased interest in the creation and composition of fat, and in diseases of obesity (e.g. apoplexy and dropsy). There was a corresponding increase in the range of treatments available to the obese, from bleeding and purging to diet and exercise, and from thinning agents (including vinegar and chalk) to the wearing of corsets.

Part 3 (‘From Oafishness to Powerlessness’) interrogates the eighteenth century, and uncovers new, more subtle ideas about obesity and the fat body. There was an increasing interest in weights and measurements as a way of gauging the size of the body. At the same time, written descriptions of fat people became more detailed, and visual depictions more realistic: bigness was no longer a straightforward question of roundness. Whilst stoutness could lend gravity to elite males, women were expected to be thin. Extreme girth was problematic in both sexes, because new medical theories associated fatness with weakness and melancholy. In men extreme fatness was sometimes linked with the abuse of office. It is unsurprising, then, that this period saw an explosion in efforts to ‘cure’ the fat, usually by toning and tensing the body- whether through diet, exercise and bathing, or through pills, tonics and electric shocks.

flash
flash
February 16, 2016 9:56 am

By modern standards , these ladies may not be exceptional beautiful, but neither were they sweat hogs either.

The Windsor Beauties are a famous collection of paintings by Sir Peter Lely, painted in the early to mid-1660s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Beauties

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
February 16, 2016 10:13 am

That’s a lot of cushin’ for the pushin’. But I like it.

Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 10:15 am

Nope. No way …. to much of a good thing. If she is sexy, then is the male in the same way – hey ladies, you want to see my fat ass selling underwear? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Stucky
Stucky
February 16, 2016 10:19 am

Wow. flash posts an article from a misogynist web site. What a surprise!

How to treat a woman …. copied directly from that site

Never say ‘I Love You’ first
Make her jealous
You shall make your mission, not your woman, your priority
Don’t play by her rules
Keep her guessing
Say you’re sorry only when absolutely necessary
Ignore her beauty
Be irrationally self-confident
Never be afraid to lose her
Fuck her good

Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 10:21 am

I’m the model on the right.

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Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 10:23 am

Heavy is in? Fuck that. It appears anything old is the true standard for some – we’ll know soon enough when porn has nasty lard asses. How many strip clubs are gonna have a ‘heavy room’ for the select few that want to both watch and eat bacon at the same time?

Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 10:24 am

Stucky, reminds me of Farley and Swayze on SNL – classic funny. Top 100 SNL skits for sure.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
February 16, 2016 10:27 am

Well,

Like many of you as a younger man I would have considered myself something of a connoisseur of the female persuasion. What I have concluded is that beauty is at least in part how a woman carry’s and presents herself. This has nothing to do with her weight (though it does in part) or how much make up she lathers on. As i’ve gotten older I’ve come to appreciate natural beauty – I am lucky in this sense since my Mrs. wears what most women would consider to be minimal make up. She looks unnatural with too much and her beauty by and large flows from the fact that she takes care of herself, dresses for her age and conducts herself like a lady. As we’ve aged together she has become more elegant and more refined – like a good wine in this sense – and has by and large become the essence of what I consider a ‘woman’ to be.

Neither of us are built like we were when we were twenty. More importantly she has born me two amazing children, aged gracefully, thinks bald is sexy and would die before she ever considered dishonouring herself by cheating on me. Physically she is considerably taller than me (many think this odd but I consider it an accomplishment on my end) with long ass length curly strawberry blond hair (now mixed with streaks of grey) and – owing to her Russian/Mennonite background has a build similar to the woman on the cover of the magazine you have posted. We are not born into this world the same physically and to say that a woman who is voluptuous is not beautiful is a matter of opinion and nothing more. We all like what we like.

I’ve never cared for skinny little girls with no boobs or more muscle than me or round women with no figures – both for the same reason – but I can appreciate that each might appear beautiful in their own right – particularly to the men they are with who see then through their own eyes as ideal. What is truly unattractive is a woman who has no respect for herself in the way she dresses, carries herself or interacts with others. This creature is gross in my mind – most of the pics from Wal Mart represent this woman well.

At any rate – thank God for women – particularly those who are ladies. They are soft and smell good and help to keep us civilized. Aside from that they are mostly a mystery. I’ll leave it there.

Stucky
Stucky
February 16, 2016 10:29 am

“Stuck..I call B/S …more dark age myth.” ————- flash

I call bullshit on your bullshit.

hmmmmm, let’s see …….. should I believe some retarded article …… OR …. MY OWN EYES!

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I could do this ALL DAY long. But, I won’t. You just go ahead and keep believing in your own delusions. No sweat off my fat ass.

Mahtomedi
Mahtomedi
February 16, 2016 10:45 am

The Renaissance paintings sure did have mostly fat ugly women. Probably specified by the Pope and the Medici’s so men wouldn’t have a constant erection while visiting Vatican City.

SSS
SSS
February 16, 2016 10:53 am

“Did I break SSS’ no nipple rule?”
—-Admin

The rule is “No Nudity,” not “No Nipple,” damnit. And your picture of Cheryl Tiegs above pushes the boundary of my patience. Don’t let it happen again. If it does, I’m going to ban Stucky. Heh.

And who the hell is Ashley Graham? Never heard of her.

Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 10:59 am

Gay test….3…2…1….

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Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 11:01 am

You can see that attire on any beach in ‘murica…..so it ain’t nudity. Little clothing, tight clothing….is a privilege, not a right.

po'boy
po'boy
February 16, 2016 11:05 am

Fat is fat. My wife wouldnt be my wife if she hadnt been slender and aerodynamic at one point. Now she looks like that, and I can tell the difference.

Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 11:07 am

…………….you can’t stop staring at it, can you?

Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 11:15 am

Just left a little extra on the dresser…….and you’re outta milk.

Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 11:19 am

It this works, turn it up.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 16, 2016 11:24 am

Tommy is forcing SSS into a “no beaver” rule.

Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 11:32 am

Bea – I own Jergens lotion stock, just doing my ‘active stockholder’ part to boost sales.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 16, 2016 11:34 am

Ashley Graham has REALLY large………hands.

Tommy
Tommy
February 16, 2016 11:39 am

Bea…..another excellent point. How frickin huge (not there, but also there) does the dude have to be to make this work? Seriously, he’d have to be 6’3″+, 250# +?

Gayle
Gayle
February 16, 2016 11:58 am

I notice none of the ladies are chiming in.

I think overweight women can be beautiful if their proportions remain balanced. Ashley looks like she fits that description except for the boobs. I’m glad I don’t have to lug those things around.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
February 16, 2016 12:09 pm

Tommy,

A confident but not arrogant stocky built 5′ 5″ that will treat her like a woman and act like a gentleman will do the job just fine…. in my experience…..

diogenes
diogenes
February 16, 2016 12:11 pm

Like Tom Waits says when you go to a strip club ” You want to get a little sumptin that you can’t get at home”

Persnickety
Persnickety
February 16, 2016 1:24 pm

I approve.

However, I’m a little skeptical of the claimed size 16, based on other photos I’ve seen of her.

For someone a little smaller and also attractive, still a “plus size,” look up Iskra Lawrence.

Rise Up
Rise Up
February 16, 2016 2:18 pm

Damn, was expecting lots of pics on this thread. You all are a bunch of lightweights.

That gal on the SI cover is kinda big but still very attractive.

Since I never miss an opportunity, here’s a double-shot:

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flash
flash
February 16, 2016 2:23 pm

Stuck , you read but you don’t comprehend. A few centuries from now after a few decades of Sports Illustrated propagandizing fat SJWs on the cover , there will be emoting man boobs such as yourself claiming post modern man simply adored the feminist tubs of lard…but you go one believing that fat was in an era when eating everyday was a rarity among the majority of the worlds population if that makes you feel strong and independent.

General
General
February 16, 2016 2:27 pm

Let me put it this way.

Fuck those fat chicks…. oh wait, maybe not.

AWD
AWD
February 16, 2016 2:31 pm

Flash and the little lady gettin it on

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Rise Up
Rise Up
February 16, 2016 2:34 pm

#2 of the 3 SI 2016 covers…can you find the easter eggs?

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No problems finding what’s under the paint here!

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My work here is done.

Muck About
Muck About
February 16, 2016 3:40 pm

MY opinion is that there are two types of attractive women.

Big old good ones.

Good old big ones.

I’m getting old. The young twits just don’t do it for me anymore..

MA

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
February 16, 2016 4:16 pm

No fat chicks.