Via Boston Bob
Tonight in a “town hall” meeting President Obama told a woman who survived a rape and was now pro-gun that she may not have been able to use a gun to thwart the assault on her and that it may not really make her any safer.
The real war on women continues as the men of the Left continue to see women as helpless, weak and their role best left to being a victim, while not offering any answers, encouragement nor decisive statement where he could have said “I’m only sorry you didn’t shoot the son of a bitch.”
Because that is what he should have said.
Yet there was a time when Presidents were different, even before they became President.
On a hot autumn night back in 1933 Melba King was walking to her home in Des Moines, Iowa after being at nursing school when she felt a gun pressed into her back and a man demanding all of her money and one wonders possibly what else.
But it was never to be known, because out of the dark came a voice from above.
“Leave her alone or I’ll shoot you right between the shoulders!”
And there, two stories above, leaning out of his apartment window with a .forty-five revolver was a young sports reporter named… Ronald Reagan.
The robber didn’t debate, he didn’t threaten, he didn’t shoot instead he fled back into the night from which he had came. Reagan told the young Ms. King to stay put long enough for him to put on his robe and slippers so he could escort her home…no doubt the .45 concealed in a pocket.
Some fifty years would pass before Reagan would see Ms. King again. In 1984 at a Republican campaign event then Governor Terry Branstad had heard of the story, and invited her to the event where Ronnie was going to be in attendance.
In true Reagan fashion when the story was told, remarked to the crowd “The gun was empty! I didn’t have any cartridges! If he hadn’t run when I told him to, I was going to have to throw it at him.” laughing at himself.
However, when the reporters asked Ms. King for a comment about that night she responded with “And he said ‘Leave her alone or I’ll shoot you between the shoulders.”.
Martin Luther King junior once famously made a remark about not judging someone by the color of their skin but rather the content of their character.
He was of course right.
I wonder which of the Presidential candidate today you could realistically imagine having a story like this in his past?
Hillary?
Sanders?
or one of the Republican Cadre?
cool story and reagan was better than the last few jokers but he also contributed a great deal to the gun control movement while governor of CA as well as president.
the myth of reagan needs a splash of cold water.
he signed the law banning individual ownership of machine guns (why a preban m16 will sell for over $20k today) and while some will say “good, the average citizen doesn’t “need” one of those” (fuck you by the way) it set the precedent for banning scary looking “assault weapons” with the AWB about a decade later even though they were semi-auto.
Harry P,
Actually he signed into to law an act (FOPA) that banned the manufacture of new machine guns for common private ownership, not ownership in general.
You can still own, buy and sell any machine gun made prior to that act in 1986 if you comply with all Federal and State laws (some States ban them on a State level under most circumstances). There several are loopholes that let you own, manufacture and transfer your own, new machine guns made after that date (although rather difficult loopholes for most people to comply with).
Agree with Harry. I’m sick to death of the Reagan myth. It needs to die. I don’t care what he did when he was young. He helped bring about more gun control for his entire political career. He also grew every single aspect of government, every single year he was in office.
In fact, since obama has yet to accomplish anything meaningful on gun control, and Reagan sure as hell did, and Reagan tripled the national debt vs Obama “only” doubling it, it’s interesting this meme keeps coming up.
@ anon – oh, is that all Reagan did. That’s not so bad. I guess he was a friend to the 2nd amendment after all.
Anonymous,
Yes and no.
These are mechanical devices that wear down when used, their life expectancy is not infinite. it also bans modifying them from their existing condition to modern layouts (ie switching the A2 fixed stock to a collapsible stock). by not allowing new to be made doesn’t create a current ban but creates a price barrier because available numbers will only ever become more limited in the future. I wasnt’ joking when i said a preban m16 goes for over $20,000. this creates a barrier that violates “shall not infringe” much harsher than a $200 tax stamp and the ones that are legal won’t last forever, it eventually will be a ban once there are no working copies (outside of museum pieces).
in terms of materials and manufacturing there is no reason a full-auto AR-15 would cost maybe $100 more than an AR15 (so less than $1000), an extra hole in the lower receiver and an auto-seer.
the only practical way to own a new machine gun is to be a manufacturer and use it as a demo piece (typically for LEO).
and i know the ATF regs and processes all too well, I recently received my paperwork for my SBR as well as a suppressor. these are simply an ar15 that has a barrel less than 16″ in length and the suppressor is a muffler that take the decibel level from say 167 to130 (supersonic ammo). to get a stamp put on a piece of paper took 110+ days for the SBR and over 130 days for the suppressor.
(and sidenote: i hated waiting but it is an awesome rig).
he was not the shitheel gunhating cum dumpster that is Obozo or Hildebeast but bowing at the altar of reagan is bullshit, regardless of the semantics, Reagan’s actions continued and contributed to the precedent that opened us all up to increased gun control and freedom being limited, the camel’s nose into the tent.
If we all wait for the perfect candidate instead of at least trying to slow the decline of the country, which I think is irreversible at this point prior to a terrible outcome, we will end up with Clinton and then Warren and the country’s fate will be sealed.
“the only practical way to own a new machine gun is to be a manufacturer and use it as a demo piece (typically for LEO).”
Or a Class 3 dealer as a dealer sample. Most samples are never actually sold to LEO or intended to be sold, although some are actually made and sold for that purpose.
I’ve known people who have become Class 2’s and 3’s for no real purpose than owning their own or manufacturing their own machine guns and other NFA stuff with little intention of actually engaging is sales of them. It’s usually done by already licensed dealers and manufacturers of non NFA firearms. Gunsmiths sometimes go this route to work on them as well.
FWIW, the only regulated parts of a machine gun are the receiver and in some cases an “auto sear” which is intended for converting a standard firearm to full auto and is a registered and serialized part which is legally considered a machine gun in itself since it makes any gun it is installed in into a machine gun.
I used to carry a C&R license years ago and found out quite a bit about different licensing and met a lot of unusual licensees over the years that have licenses that let them do such things.
“… she may not have been able to use a gun to thwart the assault on her and that it may not really make her any safer.”
The same could be said of police departments and the justice system, yet no one is trying to restrict their use.
I wonder what the difference could be?
Harry P, I’m envious.
As a resident of the disgusting state of IL, whose politicians apparently believe those who shoot guns deserve to slowly go deaf from gunfire, I can’t own the suppressor I’d buy in a New York Minute otherwise.
We are ruled by idiots and demons. They are elected by morons, fools and scum. This is predictable.
OSHA does not allow continuous industrial exposure to sound over 85 db without serious hearing protection. The best earplugs reduce sound by about 32 db.
A typical rifle produces 150-165 db at the shooter’s ear. With earplugs, this means a typical rifle will still saw away at a person’s hearing even with good earplugs.
A typical silencer (suppressor) reduces that by no more than 30 db, (so for example 150 db minus 30 db = 120 db, so a person with earplugs can get the sound pressure into a nearly safe zone (about 90 db.)
This should be ENCOURAGED by public policy.
Instead, we have asshole legislators led by demonic lobbyists who dance with glee that shooters indulge their hobby by sawing away at their hearing.
Can you tell that I HATE these people?
“If we all wait for the perfect candidate ……. we will end up with Clinton ”
Where’d you get this ‘we’ shit?
VOTE FOR TWEEDLEDUM, HE’S NOT TWEEDLEDEE….yet.
“Agree with Harry. I’m sick to death of the Reagan myth.”
So am I. Actually, the story reads like it was invented by one of Ronnie’s campaign publicists. I doubt it’s true.
Ronnie was guaranteed a spot in the Pantheon when he was president during the early part of a massive rally.
Prosperity, even if bought with counterfeit coins, colors people’s memories.
This is also why WJ Clinton got away with being such a scumbag. The boom made him teflon.
Whoever is in office when this train finally plunges off the trestle will go down in history as among the worst presidents ever. It won’t matter what he or she does (although almost certainly he or she will do things that make the plunge worse.)
FDR is a hero. Hoover is the slug. Yet FDR’s policies were basically the same as Hoover’s.
It’s all about the stock market and the economy, in that order.
dc,
too bad you live in IL, you have my condolescenses.
it is actually being encouraged, they are pushing to de-regulate suppressors to the point where you’d buy one just like you’d buy a firearm from an FFL, no tax stamp, no waiting 4 months. its on teh shelf, get a background check and walk out with one for anywhere from $200 up to $2000. i am pretty sure the national bill is called “the Hearing Protection Act.”
when people ask about the suppressor i say, am i allowed to remove the muffler from my car? no its against the law. if firearms came with suppressors originally we wouldn’t be allowed to remove them.
its too bad stoopid people think suppressors are like they are in movies where the only audible noise is the slamming of the firearms action.
it is great and i have little to no desire to shoot wihtout it from here on out, wiht my 11.5″ 556 barrel and the can mounted it is essentially the same length, feel and balance as a standard 16″ rifle. recoil is down, only drawback i see is a bit of blowback thru the charging handle and the 11.5″ barrel will cause a decreased muzzle velocity of about 10%.
i am already eyeing up the next one i want, the Silencer Co Hybrid. its a highly modular design that can run things like 22lr, 9mm, 45acp, 338 Lapua all the way up to 458 Socom and even the rounds that are typically used in lever actions like 45-70.
yes, 30db reduction is accurate, some cans will lower it more like 35-40 dbs (after the first shot burns any oxygen in the baffle chambers). but from my experience 165 is more common for things like 55gr 556, 168gr 308.
this is why i will also be utilizing 220gr subsonic 300blk loads which i should be able to get the noise level down to low 120. those will be genuinely quiet (and slow) but great fun.
my rig below, geissele SD3G trigger, 1-4x bushnell optic (first focal plane) with an 11.5″ bravo company barrel, NiBo BCG and its a SiCo Omega suppressor and i also have an upper with an 8″ 300BLK upper.
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Harry,
I would really like to see suppressors removed from the NFA, it really makes no sense to have them on it anyway.
AFIK, there have never been any crimes committed with a suppressed weapon where the crime depended on the suppression to be successfully committed and very few with any kind of suppressor at all.
It’s getting harder and harder to find ranges or establish new ones because of noise complaints in the close in rural areas.
I looked into buying one a few years back but the tax and restrictions that make them low volume specialty items put them out of my price range. Even a little .22 suppressor would have cost me around $700 and that is more than an of my .22 guns (rifle or pistol) cost. And that for what amounts to maybe, at best, a hundred dollars worth of materials and machine work.
All this talk about guns is encouraging. I just got back from the gun range. My Beretta PX Storm worked flawlessly. Put over a hundred Rds thru it .No problems. My brand new Ruger 5.56 did jam up after about 200 rds.Pretty good considering I didn’t clean either of them.Shot right out of the box.
Anon,
depends on the suppressor, many budget ones, especially for 22lr, 45acp etc that aren’t rated for full-auto can be had for 200-400 dollars and from looking a the design, tooling costs and construction that is fair. others that cost close to $1k and more are often made of materials like titanium, inconel etc and not just stainless steel like the budget ones.
the suppressor landscape is broad, the strength required for a 22 or 45acp is nothing compared to a 308 or 300winmag. mine is middle upper range, it is full auto rated (don’t need it but means its more robust) and is rated up to 300WinMag (and yes it makes a big difference even with that round).
22lr cans often require unique design issues, you really need to be able to break it completely down to clean out the lead that will surely end up there when using subsonic lead projectiles. don’t clean out lead slag and you can risk baffle strikes.
the price is coming down and i really think the push of the new proposal along with designs like SiCo’s Hybrid could be game changers.
To hunt in much of europe you’re required to use a suppressor, we are talking about EUROPE here, lol.
what kills it is the process, if you go the route of a trust (the way to go) then that’s $100-150, you got the $200 tax stamp and then the fingerprint/photo stuff isn’t free.
it is hard to swallow paying $400 of administration costs for something the manufacturer is charging say $800 for. tehy get them removed from teh NFA list and the suppressor market will be go crazy for a few years. if i didn’thave to wait 4 months and pay hundreds to the govt i would probably have 3 or 4 already. i only regret putting it off for years.
the whole reason suppressors are on teh NFA list is the govt wanted to limit unlicensed hunting. had nothing to do with curbing violence or creating safety for the public they didn’t want to risk not getting license/tax revenue from poachers (even if they were people starving to death during the great depression.
it is always about the money with those fuckers
bb,
it shouldn’t jam at 200 rds unless it was dry from the factory and you ran it dry. were you running steel or brass cased? i could see that happening with tula steel case. as long as its lubed you should be confident it’ll run without malfunction.
i’ve heard good things about the storm and like the way they feel but i am not a big fan of berettas in general. is it a 9mm or 40? 100 rds is usually good way to break it in and check reliability.
when i got my glock 19, i ran a box of 250 rds thru it one after the other as fast as i could reload the mags and not a single malfunction or failure to feed. barrel sure was hot.
When he saw “a big guy with a big bat” bashing another fellow, Donald Trump did what any self-respecting billionaire would do: He ordered his driver to pull over.
“I’m not looking to play this thing up,” Trump said yesterday. “I’m surprised you found out about it.”
Witnesses said Trump, with Marla Maples tugging at his arm to try to stop him, leaped from his black stretch limousine Monday evening during the Manhattan assault.
“Someone in the car looked over and said, ‘Gee, look at that, it’s a mugging,’ ” Trump said. “I said to my driver to stop the car because it was brutal-looking.”
Trump was at first reluctant to discuss his daredevil deed, but then he warmed to the task.
“The guy with the bat looked at me, and I said, “Look, you’ve gotta stop this. Put down the bat,”‘ Trump said. “I guess he recognized me because he said, ‘Mr. Trump, I didn’t do anything wrong.’ I said, ‘How could you not do anything wrong when you’re whacking a guy with a bat?’ Then he ran away.”
Trump said the incident occurred at 8 p.m. as he, Maples and another couple were heading toward the Lincoln Tunnel on their way to the Meadowlands in New Jersey for a Paula Abdul concert.
Kathleen Romeo, a 16-year-old student at St. Michael’s Academy in Manhattan, said cries of “There’s Trump!” went through the crowd of onlookers when the erstwhile deal maker emerged from his limousine in front of a Smiler’s deli.
“A lot of people were surprised that he got out to see what was happening,” Romeo said, adding that the bat-wielder ran off just before Trump actually appeared, and that Trump, “just looked around and went back into his limo.”
But another witness, who asked not to be identified, supported Trump’s tale.
“All of a sudden, a big long limousine pulls up on an angle, and Donald Trump pops out with the blond, too,” the witness said. “There was a guy with a bat, hitting a guy over the head, and Trump yelled, ‘Put that bat down. What are you doing?’ The guy dropped the bat, came over and started talking to him.”
Trump said the bat-man delivered at least “five or six good whacks” before he interceded.
Trump said he left the site only after he saw a man who appeared to be a doctor treating the victim and heard that an ambulance was on its way.
A Midtown North Precinct spokeswoman said the attack was not reported to police.
The incident may have been a karmic sequel to the Oct. 31 mugging of Trump’s mother, whose attacker was chased and caught by bread deliveryman Lawrence Herbert.
“I was sort of lucky because of this gentleman Lawrence Herbert who helped us,” Trump said yesterday. “So I thought about that afterwards.”
About 12 years ago I was getting gas at a local mom & pop convenience store owned by some (dothead) Indians. They’re decent people and their older kids worked the store after school. The store is in a rough part of town and is always busy. Anyway, I’m pumping gas when I see the crackhead doing everything he can to get the fuck out of the store while the Indian girl was right on his ass with a baseball bat. She caught up to him as he stumbled and started beating the living shit out of him. Some white dude also pumping gas yelled “Hey, you can’t do that!” and she just looked at him and yelled “Watch!” as she she went back to beating his ass. He finally got away. Turns out he tried to rob her and when she refused to comply he put his hands on her and tried to jerk her over the counter. I’ll bet he doesn’t make that mistake again!