Submitted by Hardscrabble Farmer
NASA footage of the Moon passing in front of the Earth by a satellite called DSCOVR (pronounced “disco-veer”)
According to NASA it was taken 1 million miles from Earth and shows the dark side of the moon as it passes between the Sun and Earth on July 28, 2015.
Can you see any problems with this video or are you completely satisfied that what you are viewing is in fact authentic?
Um, If we are looking at the dark side of the moon the earth should also be dark?
Yeah, lighting is wrong like Card802 says and it looks like a bad animation to boot.
The moon appears to transit in a straight-line and looks stationary–not slightly rotating as it orbits the Earth. Yes, the moon does not rotate on it’s axis as the Earth does, which is why we only can view one side of it as it orbits Earth. But this video does not indicate that.
Something’s fishy here…
It should be illuminated since it is between Sun and earth
Why would the Earth look dark? Take the moon out of the picture and there’s no difference of the Earth’s lightings. I must be an idiot because I don’t know what HSF is getting at with this question?
The “dark side of the moon” does not mean what Card802 and others seem to think it means.
The “dark side” simply means the side of the moon that faces away from us, the side that we can never see from earth. But even though the “dark side” of the moon always faces away from earth, it does periodically face toward the sun. The dark side is not in perpetual night time.
Allegedly the Moon does spin on it’s axis in synchronous rotation every 27 days.
You can see it goes right over WTC7 AS IT EXPLODES forever making it impossible to see who pushed the plunger……..
Where’s South America?
I am not getting at anything, I just want to know if you see this as an accurate video of the transit of the Moon across the Earth based on your understanding of astronomy. Is there anything that strikes you as out of place or inconsistent with what you know based on your life experience and knowledge of celestial movements.
The moon should appear brighter (This is L1, not L2 which is on the opposite side of the sun), and the other fishy thing could be the speed of the moon rotating around the earth. The earth rotates 27 times before the moon rotates around it, and L1 is about 4 times as far from earth as the moon.
HSF- You didn’t post information from the NASA article.
card802: “Um, If we are looking at the dark side of the moon the earth should also be dark?”
Bea Lever: “Yeah, lighting is wrong like Card802 says and it looks like a bad animation to boot.”
from nasa.gov ““It is surprising how much brighter Earth is than the moon,” said Adam Szabo, DSCOVR project scientist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. “Our planet is a truly brilliant object in dark space compared to the lunar surface.”
Rise Up: “The moon appears to transit in a straight-line and looks stationary–not slightly rotating as it orbits the Earth. Yes, the moon does not rotate on it’s axis as the Earth does, which is why we only can view one side of it as it orbits Earth. But this video does not indicate that.”
From nasa.gov: “These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT on July 16”
“Combining three images taken about 30 seconds apart as the moon moves produces a slight but noticeable camera artifact on the right side of the moon. ”
HSF: “Is there anything that strikes you as out of place or inconsistent with what you know based on your life experience and knowledge of celestial movements.”
Not much to take away from a 3 images (90 seconds) from a satellite.
Funny how it doesn’t cast a shadow, ain’t it?
“HSF- You didn’t post information from the NASA article.”
No, you are correct, I posted a video created by NASA and then asked a question.
“Can you see any problems with this video or are you completely satisfied that what you are viewing is in fact authentic?”
“I don’t know what HSF is getting at with this question?” ——– Stephanie
It’s proof the earth is flat!
I think the jerky motion is because this is probably a time lapse and not video, or it’s a real crappy video.
Time lapse is the taking of many still photographs with a set time between still shots over a given time.
So one shot every 30 min for however long it takes the moon to pass the earth from a distance of 1 million miles.
The lighting is still disturbing, the earths illumination never changes, but it looks like the moon does in the last few frames. The clouds don’t seem to move much either, the moon doesn’t rotate and yeah, where is South America?
Anyone know how long it takes the moon to pass the earth at 1 million miles?
I may be an estimator but aint too good at that maff.
God not this again. Why in the fuck are we arguing about gravity or the Earth being round???
I’m not taking the bait. If I’m going to give someone a college-level scientific education, then I’ll be paid to do it.
How is the camera on the satellite stationary?
How is the camera and satellite stationary? I meant
“I’m not taking the bait.”
TPC, are you sayin this might be a trick question?
1. There is not dark “side of the moon” the entire moon sees light at some point.We only get to generally see one side.
2. The moon does rotate on its axis. Its rotational speed matches its orbital speed so it appears locked and stationary to us in this rotation.
The far side of the moon is not illuminated during a full moon. July 28 was a waxing gibbous moon phase. This would permit the far side to be illuminated somewhat.
card 802 nailed it right out of the box.. The sun – lighting the entire earth as it rotates (full earth)- has to be located behind the moon – thereby making it a new moon as viewed from Earth and a full moon (of its’ backside) as viewed from a million miles out. Also the proportions of earth and moon are distorted as the moon would not be nearly as large as portrayed. The last comment is also dependent on the power of the telescope on the satellite taking the picture – but it looks off to me.
Also, no stars in the background says “mask” to me. If they masked the earth, they would not see the moon outside of the mask but only as it passed the earth itself.
I think it a fairly well edited fake..
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It’s not a video. It’s 3 photos in a 90 second time lapse. And nope, nothing looks out of the ordinary to me. The moon is moving in a slight angle over the Pacific Ocean and I can see Central America just not South America because of the Earth’s rotation. And the moon only casts a shadow on the Earth during a solar eclipse. There were two solar eclipses during 2015, March 20th and September 13th. These images are from July 2015.
If you see something irregular you’re going to have to point it out to me.
“God not this again. Why in the fuck are we arguing about gravity or the Earth being round???
I’m not taking the bait. If I’m going to give someone a college-level scientific education, then I’ll be paid to do it.”
You should have worked harder at reading comprehension. There is no argument about either gravity or the Earth being round anywhere in this thread. And it doesn’t surprise me at all that someone with a college degree needs to get paid to ‘splain things to the un-educated, because, science!
It was July 16th, 2015.
My mistake on the initial post. Waning crescent.
It doesn’t surprise me when someone has an inferiority complex over their own lack of education.
I don’t give two fucks about your background, but you apparently are pretty sore on the subject.
Gravity and the Earth’s shape has been well documented, so the burden of proof is on YOU, my friend.
Get to measuring.
http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/from-a-million-miles-away-nasa-camera-shows-moon-crossing-face-of-earth
Stephanie, your reading comprehension needs some work too.
The images were assembled using three types of cameras all combined, the shots were taken every 30 seconds for a time period of just under five hours. NASA uses the term “dark side of the moon” in the link provided above. It should be more accurately described as “far side of the Moon”, but I’m just being picky.
“It doesn’t surprise me when someone has an inferiority complex over their own lack of education.”
I don’t have your “education” but I certainly don’t feel inferior about it, I am however able to relate to people without coming off as a smug asshole. Most of the time.
” If I’m going to give someone a college-level scientific education, then I’ll be paid to do it.”
What’s you price to explain this to the hoi polloi? Oh, and may we inquire as to your credentials?
The side of the moon facing away from earth should have many more craters than the side facing earth.
oooo, ooooo!!!! I know!!!
You can’t see the grid pattern of “chem-trails” so it’s clearly a fake!!!
See, hsf, chemists know EFT about EFT, at least those pessimistic ones do. Don’t you even get it? Now go sit over there and get busy feelin all inferior an shit.
Um, no. It’s your reading comprehension that needs work.
“These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT on July 16,”
That means the satellite took pictures in a 00:04:55 time span.
““Combining three images taken about 30 seconds apart as the moon moves produces a slight but noticeable camera artifact on the right side of the moon. ”
This means the 3 images were taken 30 seconds apart in that 00:04:55 time frame.
“EPIC’s “natural color” images of Earth are generated by combining three separate monochrome exposures taken by the camera in quick succession.”
Three separate exposures by the same camera.
“EPIC takes a series of 10 images using different narrowband spectral filters — from ultraviolet to near infrared — to produce a variety of science products. The red, green and blue channel images are used in these color images.”
Again, this is just three separate exposures for the lighting and color. This is just basic photography information.
This doesn’t look right. It shows the daytime side of earth. If the moon passes between the sun and the earth, shouldn’t there be an eclipse of some sort somewhere on the earth? No shadows apparent. Also the sun should be brightly shining on the “dark” side of the moon in this case.
But what do I know? Without question, Astronomy was the most difficult college class I encountered.
Forgot to say the moon should be bright as a headlight but it looks like it is in a shadow.
I posted a couple of things this morning on that other trainwreck that HSF started. Here’s my last post directed to Araven.
Watch the fucking second video. There is a man in Parrsboro. He has spent his entire life looking for fossils without a formal, as you would call it, education. He is widely credited for putting that part of Nova Scotia on map as far as research in geology goes. You are throwing up another red herring. Your original video was invective and I responded in kind. You don’t need a college degree to know that expanding earth is completely retarded. And you can’t just post some retarded shit then sit there like a dumb ass. Say stuff like well I watched this video. Please prove me wrong. Your goal like I said is to misdirect and discredit science not advance it. If you are going to float some fucked up theory then it is up to you to provide the context and reason as to why you are doing it. Not me. And now I see HSF is at it again on another thread. What a fucking go ahead!
The Deep Space Climate Observatory satellite (DSCOVR) is at the L1 Lagrange point (where the gravitational pull of the Earth and Sun are equal). At this point, it sees the fully illuminated side of the earth continuously. It takes pictures every 2 hours, so the slightly jerky earth rotation is consistent with its frame rate. Cloud formations are fixed, so this is a consecutive sequence of pictures spanning perhaps 8 hours.
What is wrong? The moon. The moon’s orbital period is 27.3 days so it would move about 13 degrees per day or about 4 degrees while this sequence of pictures was taken. It clearly moved more like 90 degrees. Also, the craters are not moving. Since its axial rotation is synchronous to the Earth orbital rotation (27 days) it should rotate axially as much as it does orbitally. It is not doing this.
This video is a construct using a single image of the moon, and adding this image to the earth images in different locations to simulate orbit around the Earth.
In other words, the video is fake.
But if the moon was in new or crescent phases it wouldn’t create an eclipse. However, it still should be illuminated from the sun? From a million miles in space, would the moon be that proportionately large?
But if this video is not accurate, why would NASA put it out?
“What’s you price to explain this to the hoi polloi? Oh, and may we inquire as to your credentials?”
My price? $500 per hour. Frankly I don’t think there are enough hours left in your lifetime to get the point though.
My credentials: Graduated elementary school, and have all my teeth still.
Standard TBP bullshit aside, I’m truly fucking shocked right now.
You must be trolling me here.
Some people here would benefit great by reading — “Understanding Astronomy: The Moon and Eclipses”.
here —–> http://physics.weber.edu/schroeder/ua/MoonAndEclipses.html
Can’t say for sure whether the video (time lapse series) is authentic or not. But there is a satellite between the Earth and the Sun and it is a perfect example of what I was saying about Gravitational Forces being vectors that must be summed as vectors. The satellite in question (DSCOVR) sits at what is known as a Lagrangian Point…a point where the gravitational pull of the Sun and the Earth are in balance so it is a stable orbital position.
Forgot link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point
My question is why didn’t NASA show the “raw” images (i.e., the “before”) they edited and combined the photos? Why the lengthy explanation to explain the anomalies in the photos?
If they showed the “how to” it might have made their explanation more understandable.
Is the Antarctic Station telescope still filming and posting images online? I looked for the link some time ago and couldn’t find it.
I LOVED watching all the strange things passing across the sky at the bottom edge of the earth.
SO, DSCOVR sits at L1…1 million miles from Earth and, therefore, 92 million miles from the Sun. The Moon from this vantage point would be only ~750 thousand miles from DSCOVR, or 25% closer that the Earth…which is why the Moon appears so to be so large. I cannot say for certain that this video is authentic, but I have no reason to doubt it in and of itself. I have reason to distrust NASA as an bureaucratic, government entity…but that is another matter entirely, is it not?
It might also be helpful to know a little about DSCOVR.
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What is DSCOVR?
The Deep Space Climate Observatory, or DSCOVR, is a spacecraft which will orbit between Earth and the sun, observing and providing advanced warning of particles and magnetic fields emitted by the sun (known as the solar wind) which can affect power grids, communications systems, and satellites close to Earth. From its post at the Lagrange point 1 (or L1), approximately one million miles from Earth. DSCOVR will also observe our planet and provide measurements of the radiation reflected and emitted by Earth and images of the sunlit side of Earth for science applications.
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Rest here —-> http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/DSCOVR/mission.html
A picture is, in this case, worth 88 words (the length of my last post).
I see there’s a lot of high school astronomy flunkies on this thread.
Gayle: ” It shows the daytime side of earth. If the moon passes between the sun and the earth, shouldn’t there be an eclipse of some sort somewhere on the earth? ”
No. There’s two different types of eclipses. A lunar and solar. The only time the moon casts a shadow is with a solar eclipses.
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rhs jr: “Forgot to say the moon should be bright as a headlight but it looks like it is in a shadow.”
Because the image shows the dark side of the moon. The entire point of the images.
Engineer: “The moon’s orbital period is 27.3 days so it would move about 13 degrees per day or about 4 degrees while this sequence of pictures was taken. It clearly moved more like 90 degrees.”
Or, another explanation is that the moon didn’t move “more lik 90 degrees” but the satellite moved while taking the images.
I fucking quit this thread.
Folks, first let’s recognize that HSF has put this question to us in it’s own post. Not one on Global Warming. This is great as it gives us all a chance to comment and learn without hijacking some other topic. Thank you HSF.
OK, about the video that you show. Stephanie is very close to right. There are more along the lines of 15 or so single photographs which are stitched together to produce a very low frame rate video of a single transit of the moon in front of the earth. Each photo is taken, one after the other, and relayed back to earth where they are built into a video.
The earth and the moon are both illuminated, of course, by the sun but the sun is not directly behind the satellite so both remain illuminated and no shadow is seen. You can see the dark side of moon in the first and last photos of the sequence. This series of photos is taken over one transit and we know that because the rotation of the earth is clearly seen as the SW USofSA is moving out of the pictures but the cloud masses do not move in relation to the land masses.
So how long did it take to take all of these pictures that were mashed into this video? I don’t know, maybe an hour or more. But it doesn’t matter. If you put your satellite in the right place and wait for the right time you too can take this series of pictures and turn them into a movie that will look contrived – because it is. But it isn’t created in photoshop from bullshit pictures. It doesn’t need to be. The camera in the satellite just needs to be in the right place at the right time, and it was.
Listen, we all have our personality quirks, when someone has an inherent trust in “official” explanations- and there have been boatloads in the last to threads- to explain anomalies that ought not to be present, the “NASA used a fish eye lens to take that picture of the really large north America”, for example or why is it necessary to make a continent appear larger by magnitudes than it actually is without even mentioning that it was done, you add to that distrust.
TPC your shit flinging is minor league and no I’m not trolling you. You think I’m stupid? Maybe, but I am asking reasonable questions. You want to be pissed, there’s billions of people who never ask any at all.
Why does any Governmental agency alter what purports to be scientific data? Is the miracle of Space and Earth and all the combined elements and physics of these celestial bodies not amaze enough? We need fish eye lenses to make it more interesting?
Most people simply go along with authority, no questions and when they do a slight rebuke from the authority figure gets them right back on track.
Way to go Stucky…great find there and see Stephanie, no need to get excited. Not all of us want to know about Lagrange points. But if you care, take a look at this.
Rob- I didn’t know anything about Lagrange points either. I just know the satellite has to rotate around both the Earth and moon to take pictures of the dark side of the moon. Photo’s have been taken by satellite before of the DSOTM but those were 31 million miles away. This was newsworthy with NASA because the photos were 1 million away.
And I’m not excited. I am just calling out HSF on this bullshit because he posted this for people to speculate on without proving a link or additional information. That just pisses me off.