Several days ago I quoted Fred Reed’s “black lives matter” article —- “Physically tackling a criminal, tasing him, pepper-spraying him, clubbing him, or shooting him all pose the risk of prosecution, lawsuits, and loss of career. ” ——— Fred
I responded with this comment —– “That’s simply a blatantly false statement. 95% of copfuks are NEVER held accountable for their misdeeds.”
Ten of you massively stupid motherfuckers voted that down. You goddamned cowards wouldn’t even identify yourselves. Why don’t don’t you all choke on some diseased donkey dick? If you shit for brains morans had two brain cells to do a g**gle search, you could advance past severe monkey retardation, and approach the mental status of fruit fly. Assholes.
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New Study Shows Even If Cops Commit a Crime on Video, 96% of the Time they Aren’t Prosecuted
Police in the United States managed to escape prosecution when facing allegations they violated civil rights an incredible 96 percent of the time. This is almost the exact opposite of the conviction rate for everyone else, as normal citizens are are prosecuted at a rate of 93 percent.
The investigation by the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (the Trib), based on an analysis of nearly 3 million federal records, found that from 1995 through 2015, federal prosecutors overwhelmingly opted not to pursue prosecution. Indeed, the 96 percent refusal to press charges sharply contrasts with the rejection rate for all other complaints — just 23 percent.
Investigators found the most common reasons given for refusing to prosecute officers were “weak or insufficient evidence, lack of criminal intent required under a 1945 Supreme Court ruling standard, and orders from the Justice Department.”
In response to the Trib’s study, Justice Dept. spokeswoman Dena Iverson said the DOJ takes “any allegation of law enforcement misconduct seriously and will review those allegations when they are brought to our attention.”
But the lopsided tendency for U.S. prosecutors to reject charging officers in civil rights cases could easily be seen as validation for outrage at what amounts to police impunity.
“It’s a difficult situation for the legal system in general,” Mel Johnson, assistant U.S. attorney for civil rights cases in Wisconsin’s Eastern District, told the Trib. “Federal and state governments have not succeeded in deterring police misconduct. I would say the legal system has a way to go.”
Prosecuting civil rights allegations is a tricky matter, in general, but the challenge to prove an officer acted “willfully,” which the Supreme Court ruled over 70 years ago, remains the greatest stumbling block.
“The standard is high and challenging,” said Alan Vinegrad, a former federal prosecutor in New York who oversaw civil rights cases. “It’s got to be a willful deprivation of rights, meaning the police officer intended and wanted to either kill or injure the person. Not just ‘it was reckless or negligent’ or anything like that.”
Therein lies the most pertinent dilemma. Because the officer’s malintent must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, cases where judges find an officer unjustified in his or her use of force can’t necessarily be prosecuted as civil rights violations.
Questionable evidence also plays a role, particularly when various witness accounts of the same event differ.
As Craig Futterman, a law professor and founder of Civil Rights and Police Accountability Project at the University of Chicago, points out, juries have a bias toward police officers — evidenced by reluctance or failure to convict — so prosecutors must factor in that tendency when deciding if charges will be fruitful.
Law enforcement unions argue police wouldn’t be able to do their job if they feared acting as they feel appropriately might cause them to be charged with a crime.
Tim Lynch, director of the Project on Criminal Justice at the Cato Institute, described another, more telling, bias:
“There’s first of all the general reluctance on the part of prosecutors to go after people in law enforcement because they consider themselves all working on the same team.”
As some experts the Trib consulted for its investigation explained, one solution would involve lesser options than prison to increase accountability, while balancing law enforcement’s concern about effectively doing their jobs. Others, like Radley Balko, author of Rise of the Warrior Cop, have argued that mandating police to have liability or similar insurance — making them accountable via their bank accounts — might be the best option.
“This is an area, quite honestly, where the feds need to be bolder and put greater resources in,” Futterman explained. “Indeed, the failure to aggressively bring those cases has allowed too many abusive officers to believe that they can operate without fear of punishment.”
As the Trib summarized, “Even with video or other strong evidence, the defense can argue the officer believed the dead person was armed or was a threat, or the officer had only a split-second to make a decision.”
Just about everyone is familiar with the effectiveness of that argument — I thought my life was in danger.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-civil-rights-prosecutions/
Stuky is 100% correct
Ever notice that police unions are “fraternal”? This should tell you something. The “thin-blue-line” is a gang, little different than street gangs–at least when it comes to “covering-up” questionable behavior by police.
In today’s day and age, “officer safety” trumps de-escalation of force. This, in part, is due to the militarization of the police along with training in Israeli police tactics. This becomes a problem, with the “us vs. them” attitude that is fosters, along with the fact that Israel is a very different place, being on a constant “war footing”, and by necessity, its police tactics are very different.
There are too many instances of police being “given a pass”, even when incontrovertible video and audio evidence is presented. Grand juries, guided by police-friendly prosecutors, quite often refuse to charge those police officers who abuse their authority.
Police officers, who want to do the right thing, are quite often marginalized and put into harms way, by their own brethren…When a police officer is beating on someone that is already restrained while yelling, “stop resisting” THAT is but one reason police have a “bad name” in many instances…
Here are changes that can help reduce the police-induced violence:
1. Get rid of police unions. Police unions (fraternities) protect the guilty, and are responsible for the massive whitewashing of questionable police behavior that is presently being committed.
2. Eliminate both “absolute” and “qualified” immunity for all public officials. This includes, prosecutors and judges, police and firefighters, code enforcement and child protective services officials, and others who deal with the citizenry. The threat of being sued personally would encourage them to behave themselves. Require police officers to be “bonded” by an insurance company, with their own funds. No bond= no job.
3. Any public funds disbursed to citizens as a result of police misconduct should come out of police pension funds–NOT from the taxpayers.
4. Regular drug-testing of police officers as well as incident-based drug testing should take place whenever an officer is involved in a violent situation with a citizen–no exceptions.
5. Testing for steroid use should be a part of the drug testing program. You know damn well, many police officers “bulk up” with the “help” of steroids. Steroids also affect users mentally as well, making them more aggressive. The potential for abuse of citizens increases greatly with steroid use.
6. Internal affairs should only be used for disagreements between individual officers–NOT for investigations involving citizen abuse. State-level investigations should be mandatory for all suspected abuses involving citizens.
7. Prosecutors should be charged with malfeasance IF any evidence implicating police officer misconduct is not presented to the grand jury.
8. A national or state-by-state database of abusive individuals who should NEVER be allowed to perform police work should be established–a “blacklist” of abusive (former) police officers.
9. Most people are unaware that police have special “rules” that prohibit them from being questioned for 48 hours. This allows them to “get their stories straight” and makes it easier to “cover up” bad police behavior. Police must be subject to the same laws as civilians.
10. All police should be required to wear bodycams and utilize dashcams that cannot be turned off. Any police officers who causes a dash or body cam to be turned off should be summarily fired–no excuses. Today’s body and dash cams are reliable enough to withstand harsh treatment. Body and dashcam footage should be uploaded to a public channel “on the cloud” for public perusal.
11. All interrogations must be video and audio recorded. Police should be prohibited from lying or fabricating stories in order to get suspects to confess. False confessions ARE a problem in many departments. Unknown to most people, police can lie with impunity while civilians can be charged with lying to police…fair? I think not…
12. Any legislation passed that restricts the rights of ordinary citizens, such as firearms magazine capacity limits, types of weapons allowed, or restrictive concealed-carry laws should apply equally to police. No special exemptions to be given to police. Laws must be equally applied.
Police work is not inherently dangerous…there are many other professions that are much more dangerous.
A little “Andy Taylor” could go a long way in allaying fears that citizens have of police.
That being said, I have no problem with police officers who do their job in a fair, conscientious manner…however, it is time to call to task those police officers who only “protect and serve” themselves.
There is much angst and consternation against prosecutors and grand juries who refuse to bring charges against police officers, even when incontrovertible evidence is presented. Even with incontrovertible audio and video evidence, prosecutors are loath to prosecute rogue law enforcement personnel.
Let’s examine the reasons why it is so difficult to prosecute thug cops:
Most prosecutors are former police officers or have extensive dealings with police departments and have ongoing relationships with police departments in their respective jurisdictions. They are friendly with the judges in their jurisdictions, as well. This, along with “absolute immunity” makes it easy for them to “cover up” police abuses and behavior. Prosecutors cannot be sued for malfeasance…it takes a judge (who prosecutors are friendly with) to bring charges on a rogue prosecutor (which almost never happens).
In addition, prosecutors guide the actions of grand juries. Prosecutors are not required to introduce any evidence to grand juries, (can and do) easily “whitewash” the actions of rogue cops. On the other hand, prosecutors can (and often do) go after honest citizens who seek justice outside official channels…prosecutors have ultimate power and are not afraid to use it…their immunity sees to that.
Another aspect to a grand jury’s inability to prosecute bad cops is the fear of retribution…cops drive around all day, have nothing but time, have access to various databases, and can easily get the names and addresses of grand jurors…this, in itself can be a powerful deterrent against grand jurors who “want to do the right thing” and prosecute bad cops. There are many cases of cops parking in front of grand jurors’ residences, following them around, and threaten to issue citations to them, in order to “convince” them to “make the right decision”…the “thin blue line” at its worst…
The whole system has to change.
Eliminate absolute and qualified immunity for all public officials. The fear of personal lawsuits would be a powerful deterrent against abuses of the public.
Any funds disbursed to civilians as a result of official misconduct must be taken from the police pension funds–NOT from the taxpayers.
Grand juries must be superior to the prosecutor; ALL evidence must be presented to grand jurors. Failure to do so must be considered a felony and subject prosecutors to prosecution themselves.
No police agency can be allowed to investigate itself. Internal affairs departments must be restricted to minor in-house investigations of behavior between cops. All investigations must be handled by outside agencies, preferably at the state level.
Civilian police review boards must be free of police influence. Members of civilian review boards must have NO ties to police departments. Relatives of police would be prohibited from serving…Recently, the “supreme court” threw police another “bone”. The court ruled that police are not responsible for their actions if they are “ignorant of the law”…now, let’s get this straight–honest citizens cannot use “ignorance of the law” as an excuse, but cops can??
Revolution is sorely needed…..
The local cop who shot and killed a small screwdriver weilding schizophrenic 85 pound teenager in his own living room after his parents called 911 for help because he didn’t have time to deal with the situation got off last week. He had a bench trial. Cop’s scum lawyer was on the news saying it was a grave injustice that the mutderer was even brought up on charges and that it was a frivolous lawsuit. I beleive that 96% get off.
I upvoted you, you are 100% correct. Too many state/cop worshiping republitards around here these days. I blame the fact that rush limbaugh has mentioned TBP a few times.
Notice they have to “willfully” violate someones civil rights to get in trouble. In other words, you have to prove INTENT on their part. Funny how thats a one way street though. As any cop will tell you, when YOU violate the law, “ignorance of the law is no excuse”. The “willfully” violating the law part doesn’t protect you. You go to jail even if you didn’t know you were breaking the law. Since there are so many laws, and even “law-abiding” people unknowingly break them all the time, they can pretty much be arrested at any time. And people still say “government is not the problem”
“Law enforcement unions argue police wouldn’t be able to do their job (Killing For Fun) if they feared acting as they feel appropriately might cause them to be charged with a crime.
“Fixed it.
Law Enforcement has become a legal form of mafia in many places. Therefore mafia rules apply equally back on them: “Nice family you have there officer, be a shame if anything happened to them”.
In many small towns and rural areas the cops won’t fuck with the locals because they know there would be repercussions in their personal lives. Which is as it should be. Maybe his wife gets ‘let go’ from her bank teller job or his son is demoted to 2nd string quarterback. When they know that fucking with people comes with a personal cost to them, it’s surprising just how friendly and helpful they become.
I voted you down Meathead. Why do most cops get off ? Because the lawsuits against them are by lawyers who are themselves trying to get rich. Hell in the black culture it as good as playing the lottery. You suethe cop you might hit the jackpot.Blacks rejoice when one of theirs is killed by a white cop.They know they are going to get some money from the government.( taxpayers)
“It’s got to be a willful deprivation of rights, meaning the police officer intended and wanted to either kill or injure the person. Not just ‘it was reckless or negligent’ or anything like that.”
Therein lies the problem.
Cops should not be allowed to use their gun unless they’ve actually been shot first -actually shot, not just shot at since that could be just an accidental discharge and should not be used as an excuse for murder- and should automatically be charged, prosecuted and convicted if they ever shoot their gun at someone before they are shot first.
The penalty should be life in prison with no chance of parole.
This is the only way we will ever straighten out the copfuk police.
“Several days ago I quoted Fred Reed’s “black lives matter” article —- “Physically tackling a criminal, tasing him, pepper-spraying him, clubbing him, or shooting him all pose the risk of prosecution, lawsuits, and loss of career. ” ——— Fred
I responded with this comment —– “That’s simply a blatantly false statement. 95% of copfuks are NEVER held accountable for their misdeeds.” ”
The reason I voted you down, genius, is because Fred stated in very well thought out reasoning, that cops are backing off from aggressive enforcement of CRIMINALS because of the ridiculous legal risks now involved.
Your immediate knee-jerk, Pavlov dog remark was to pull some stat out of your ass that 95% of all cops are never held accountable for their misdeeds! No kidding? Where did you find that stat? And, what the fuck does that have to do with a cop trying to physically arrest a CRIMINAL. Attempting to arrest a CRIMINAL isn’t a misdeed.
So, bb and one anonyqueer copsucker fessed up to downvoting Stuck’s comment. Copsuckers just haven’t been cuffed and stuffed on a bullshit tip, never caught a wood shampoo from one of their heroes, and never had to go down to a police station to bail out a relative or friend who was locked up for nothing.
Don’t worry, folks. The way things are going, even the copsuckers will get mugged by reality some day. Maybe when they do, they’ll spit the copcock out of their mouths long enough to cry, “PO leese brutality”. ‘Course then it’ll be too late for them to come back here and apologize. They’ll be in a cell with Lamarcus and Taekwan getting a taste of some other kind of cock.
“Pavlov dog remark was to pull some stat out of your ass that 95% of all cops are never held accountable for their misdeeds! No kidding? Where did you find that stat? ”
——— Anonymous ….. coward, and retard
I guess actually reading the included article about the study proving this fact …. well, I guess that’s too much to ask from a piece of shit like you. Eh?
Just curious … since you seem to have extensive experience …. how do cop testicles taste?
bb
Looking forward to the day when a copfuk shoots up your FedEx truck for no reason at all. There’s a name for that. Sweet Justice.
The other day I watched ANOTHER of these atrocities. They kept Tasering the guy; originally Tased him, then brought him to hospital entrance (breathing problem due to Tasers); the, at the hospital front door they Tased the fuck out of him – he died.
I don’t know if they are just plain stupid or just don’t care, or do it for fun.
Also watched another, Cop and black guy (with no weapon or hostility) were 5 ft apart; looked like the cop was giving orders and they were being ignored. The black guy started walking away from the cop (his back was facing the pig). The CopFuck then shot him. Bravery in action.
‘Sic ’em, Stuck.
Good job.
Llpoh
WTF? Isn’t it 2AM in Australia right now?
Urinary issues? Can’t sleep? Watching porn? Hunting kangaroos? Walking you monster dogs from hell?
Fuck cop criminals and all those who support them.
“Worse than Criminals — Cops Use Asset Forfeiture to Steal $53K from an Orphanage and a Church”
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/04/worse-than-criminals-cops-use-asset-forfeiture-to-steal-53k-from-an-orphanage-and-a-church.html?utm_source=Activist+Post+Subscribers&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=b61d48949a-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_b0c7fb76bd-b61d
Stuck – I gots to still run a biz in the US, so I am up at some strange times.
Monster dogs from hell are sweeties, but the “little one” scared shit out of an old guy the other day. Sniffed the geezers butt, and when he turned around to see what was up, near had a heart attack. We were in a no leash dog park – the folks there all know the rules – it is a dog park, and if you are in there, well, you get sniffed. But a monster dog from hell was still a bit unexpected. She looks kinda like this:
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Met a woman whose daughter is afraid of dogs there. Within 5 minutes that little girl of around 5 was best buddies with my dogs. She decided she was not afraid of them – just other dogs. Go figure. Sort looked like this:
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Your two dogs just let the little girl know that she was under their protection. She could feel it.
Ed – she indeed was under their protection. Would not want to be the guy trying to steal that kid’s candy.
A lady came by with a baby in a stroller. They took p guard positions on each side of her and followed her around. They were bred to protect 1) kids 2) family 3) animals of the family. And do it to the death.
Great breed. You made a good choice.
http://sputniknews.com/us/20160608/1040962522/missouri-cop-tases-teen-dashcam.html
Fascist tases the shit out of a kid, This time he was prosecuted, but the kid has permanent brain damage. Copfuks.