As much as I like Trump even he is beginning to take money from people hostile to America . These worthless pieces of shit with Two different citizenships and multiple pass ports .Will TRUMP be just another sell out ?
Bea Lever
May 17, 2016 11:41 am
bb- Trump is a billionaire he’s never been beholding to bankers………….oh wait.
Forgot for a minute that he literally owes a fortune to almost every bank in this country. But they would never strong arm The Donald, now would they? One of Trump’s last reorganization/bankruptcies, there were 70 banks involved to bail him out. Not a typo SEVENTY banks. That was just one of his bailouts, he is the poster boy for bankster owned.
Hitlery may have gotten millions from the banksters, Trump owes billions to the banksters……which is worse? Anyone moving into the WH next January will be BANK OWNED and you can take that to the bank.
Persnickety
May 17, 2016 11:57 am
Indeed, the bbbea’s have it!
🙂
There is no good option in this election, among the “major candidates”.
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May 17, 2016 12:09 pm
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Ed
May 17, 2016 12:32 pm
“Will TRUMP be just another sell out ?”
He already is. Wake up.
Teri
May 17, 2016 12:37 pm
Maybe it’s just me, or maybe this is just the way it’s done and I’m ignorant of it but:
“*The foundation only discloses donations in ranges.”
WTF?
And those ranges, between $1.25 and 5.5 million? Um, we’re not talking petty cash here…
Bea Lever
May 17, 2016 12:52 pm
Teri- “The Foundation” gives a politician the ability to accept foreign contributions that are deemed against the law if given as a campaign contribution. Foundations are not required to report exact amounts of contributions. Now, don’t you feel better that candidates can be bought off by foreign interests?
starfcker
May 17, 2016 12:58 pm
Trump owes billions to the banks. Bea, you’re making shit up. Like jim always tells me, provide your facts. Could be here a while. Zzzzzxzzzzxz…….
In China the Government owns the Banks.
in the USA the Banks own the Government.
In the long run the ending will be the same for both.
Bea Lever
May 17, 2016 1:41 pm
Technically Star, Trump never pays off his debts. In 2004 Trump Hotels Casinos & Resorts was 1.8 Billion in debt and bankrupt . The banksters bailed him out and he reorganized as Trump Entertainment Resorts but he no longer had a controlling interest. FIVE years later Trump Entertainment is belly up in bankruptcy and he sues to have his name taken off and resigns.
He is still in debt, who knows how much really but he went south on billions and he says it was legally. We always called people like that crooks………..today they call them presidential material.
Source- The Atlantic
starfcker
May 17, 2016 2:12 pm
Jim, if i add up the high side of your figures, i get 250 million, plus four listings at over 50 million. One of those is doral, which i think he paid 150 million, i doubt it’s mortgaged 100%. Looks like a healthy balance sheet for a multi billion dollar company. Bea is just throwing around numbers, “owes the bankers billions”. Doesn’t look that way
Bea Lever
May 17, 2016 2:23 pm
Star- Over 50,000,000 could mean 100million, a half billion or a billion. He ain’t tellin how much he owes and refused to release his tax returns………wonder why? Your addition must be common core.
Bea, no such thing. Where do think interest comes from? You gotta have guys leveraging money. It’s called business, doesn’t give banks any control over him politically, it’s just business
Bea Lever
May 17, 2016 2:38 pm
Star is vewy, vewy quiet.
Please show proof positive that the Fortune article is wrong . WE could be here for a long time ….Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
starfcker
May 17, 2016 2:50 pm
Funny. I gotta go. TBC
nkit
May 17, 2016 3:26 pm
So, the U.S. is upping its ante in the ongoing Libyan War that was ignited by Hillary and Barry. You remember – “We came, we saw, he died, Ahahahaha” – Yes, that Libyan War of Hillary’s that left a void that has been filled by many scumbags who would make Ghaddafi look like Ghandi.
The U.S. is throwing its support behind the UN government of Fayez al-Sirraj in Tripoli while military backed would-be governments lurk to the East and West. Barry and Hillary’s replacement John “Mr. Ed” Kerry have decided that sending more weapons to the al-Sarraj regime is the answer to this incredible fuck up of theirs. After all, as Kerry claimed: “It is the only way to ensure that vital institutions such as the central bank and the national oil company, that they fall under representative and acknowledged authority.” Yes, now is not the time to worry about spreading democracy and bettering human rights. No, we’re talking important shit such as oil and money. Fuck democracy. That stuff can wait.
Have no fear though. Barry and Mr. Ed say there will be “no boots on the ground”. Phew, that is good news, except what? Say what? We already have boots on the ground in Libya? Really? Indeed, we have special Op forces fighting in Libya at this moment. Well, there is money and oil at stake here. So thanks to Hillary, Kerry and Barry – the Nobel Peace Prize winner who has been at war longer than any other President, we dig in in Libya. Eventually, Hillary can claim that “We came, we saw and some more Americans died, but that was because of another video on Youtube.” Vote for Hillary if you think this country is on the right track concerning foreign affairs under Obozo the Clown.
nkit
May 17, 2016 3:48 pm
While we’re on this Hillary thing, it turns out that the financial books for the Clinton Foundation are full of “inconsistencies”, possible to the point of fraud.
Perhaps Admin can get a look at those books and give us the scoop…….
Bea Lever
May 17, 2016 3:55 pm
nkit – Don’t hold your breath for the Clintons to go to jail, teflon coated for sure.
nkit
May 17, 2016 4:36 pm
Bea, I can’t really disagree though maybe they are like the really old teflon frying pan in my closet that after quite a few years the teflon coating has worn off and shit does indeed stick to it..One can only hope that is the case for these criminals someone referred to as the “penicillin-resistant strain of syphilis” in American politics. I tend to agree with you on this, but I think it is no longer the slam dunk that it was 6-9 months ago….Comey smells a rat…or two..or three….and he knows a rat when he smells one… As Andy Dufresne said: “Hope is a good thing”
IndenturedServant
May 17, 2016 4:53 pm
It’s rare to see a TBP’er that WANTS to believe as much as starfucker does despite so much evidence to the contrary. As Ann Barnhardt said……anyone who desires to hold office is unfit for said office. I just hope they don’t kill tRump because he’s not as Satan-like as the rest of the ilk he’s running against.
If you don’t think tRumps business debts—legitimate or not—will not be used to influence him one way or another, you’re crazy. If he bobs on all the right knobs he may just leave office debt free. If not, he may leave office in a fancy box. One thing is for certain, he will not be allowed to fuck with the bankers finely tuned graft machine. After 103 years it is finally hitting on all cylinders and running as originally designed and intended.
Bea Lever
May 17, 2016 10:47 pm
Well said I/S, we can rest assured that anyone who is selected as the president in November will report directly to the banksters. I guess Starfcker gave up so I’m calling it a day.
Revenue is not profit. Revenue is not a balance sheet. I thought maff was your strong point.
starfcker
May 18, 2016 7:42 am
Those are very strong revenue numbers for a privately held company. That kind of cash flow stacked up against reported liabilities is stellar. Dude is making a lot of money. We talk about PT companies all the time with ultra high valuations but no revenue. This looks like the opposite. The guy just won the republican nomination, taking on any and all, the best funded candidates we have ever seen, and he did it out of pocket. That’s impressive in any number of ways.
Just masturbation. You need a balance sheet, income statement and cash flow statement to assess the financial strength of any organization or person. So solly. Anything else is just PR bullshit. Show me the numbers and I’ll tell you how strong he is.
starfcker
May 18, 2016 8:52 am
Private company, jim. It’s not likely we’re gonna see much else. I agree he likes to bluster with big numbers, just the way he is. But being private, remember a good part of what he spends every month turns into equity, paying down mortgages, construction loans, equiptment, etc. And unlike a PTC, no bleeding the thing dry paying dividends, or stock buybacks, or stock options. Looks to me like an enviable financial position to be in
He’s a real estate developer. He has benefited TREMENDOUSLY from the ZIRP implemented by the Fed. He owns vast amounts of land and buildings financed with vast amounts of debt. It’s all about real estate values and interest rates. He ain’t gonna do diddly squat about the Federal Reserve. They’re his best friends.
Real estate is overvalued by 30% to 50% at the current time. Interest rates have been manipulated to historic low levels. If both of these things normalized, Trump would go bankrupt again. It’s just maff.
starfcker
May 18, 2016 9:47 am
Certainly if he follows through on some of the things he talks about, it could affect his business tremendously. You don’t sell multi million dollar condos to chinese nationals and not know where the money comes from. How much it damages him depends on how levereged he is. Everything i have read suggests he has been much more conservative since atlantic city.
As much as I like Trump even he is beginning to take money from people hostile to America . These worthless pieces of shit with Two different citizenships and multiple pass ports .Will TRUMP be just another sell out ?
bb- Trump is a billionaire he’s never been beholding to bankers………….oh wait.
Forgot for a minute that he literally owes a fortune to almost every bank in this country. But they would never strong arm The Donald, now would they? One of Trump’s last reorganization/bankruptcies, there were 70 banks involved to bail him out. Not a typo SEVENTY banks. That was just one of his bailouts, he is the poster boy for bankster owned.
Hitlery may have gotten millions from the banksters, Trump owes billions to the banksters……which is worse? Anyone moving into the WH next January will be BANK OWNED and you can take that to the bank.
Indeed, the bbbea’s have it!
🙂
There is no good option in this election, among the “major candidates”.
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“Will TRUMP be just another sell out ?”
He already is. Wake up.
Maybe it’s just me, or maybe this is just the way it’s done and I’m ignorant of it but:
“*The foundation only discloses donations in ranges.”
WTF?
And those ranges, between $1.25 and 5.5 million? Um, we’re not talking petty cash here…
Teri- “The Foundation” gives a politician the ability to accept foreign contributions that are deemed against the law if given as a campaign contribution. Foundations are not required to report exact amounts of contributions. Now, don’t you feel better that candidates can be bought off by foreign interests?
Trump owes billions to the banks. Bea, you’re making shit up. Like jim always tells me, provide your facts. Could be here a while. Zzzzzxzzzzxz…….
In China the Government owns the Banks.
in the USA the Banks own the Government.
In the long run the ending will be the same for both.
Technically Star, Trump never pays off his debts. In 2004 Trump Hotels Casinos & Resorts was 1.8 Billion in debt and bankrupt . The banksters bailed him out and he reorganized as Trump Entertainment Resorts but he no longer had a controlling interest. FIVE years later Trump Entertainment is belly up in bankruptcy and he sues to have his name taken off and resigns.
He is still in debt, who knows how much really but he went south on billions and he says it was legally. We always called people like that crooks………..today they call them presidential material.
Source- The Atlantic
Jim, if i add up the high side of your figures, i get 250 million, plus four listings at over 50 million. One of those is doral, which i think he paid 150 million, i doubt it’s mortgaged 100%. Looks like a healthy balance sheet for a multi billion dollar company. Bea is just throwing around numbers, “owes the bankers billions”. Doesn’t look that way
Star- Over 50,000,000 could mean 100million, a half billion or a billion. He ain’t tellin how much he owes and refused to release his tax returns………wonder why? Your addition must be common core.
Star- Even Fortune magazine backs me up:
http://www.fortune.com/2016/03/23/donald-trump-debt/
Bea, no such thing. Where do think interest comes from? You gotta have guys leveraging money. It’s called business, doesn’t give banks any control over him politically, it’s just business
Star is vewy, vewy quiet.
Please show proof positive that the Fortune article is wrong . WE could be here for a long time ….Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Funny. I gotta go. TBC
So, the U.S. is upping its ante in the ongoing Libyan War that was ignited by Hillary and Barry. You remember – “We came, we saw, he died, Ahahahaha” – Yes, that Libyan War of Hillary’s that left a void that has been filled by many scumbags who would make Ghaddafi look like Ghandi.
The U.S. is throwing its support behind the UN government of Fayez al-Sirraj in Tripoli while military backed would-be governments lurk to the East and West. Barry and Hillary’s replacement John “Mr. Ed” Kerry have decided that sending more weapons to the al-Sarraj regime is the answer to this incredible fuck up of theirs. After all, as Kerry claimed: “It is the only way to ensure that vital institutions such as the central bank and the national oil company, that they fall under representative and acknowledged authority.” Yes, now is not the time to worry about spreading democracy and bettering human rights. No, we’re talking important shit such as oil and money. Fuck democracy. That stuff can wait.
Have no fear though. Barry and Mr. Ed say there will be “no boots on the ground”. Phew, that is good news, except what? Say what? We already have boots on the ground in Libya? Really? Indeed, we have special Op forces fighting in Libya at this moment. Well, there is money and oil at stake here. So thanks to Hillary, Kerry and Barry – the Nobel Peace Prize winner who has been at war longer than any other President, we dig in in Libya. Eventually, Hillary can claim that “We came, we saw and some more Americans died, but that was because of another video on Youtube.” Vote for Hillary if you think this country is on the right track concerning foreign affairs under Obozo the Clown.
While we’re on this Hillary thing, it turns out that the financial books for the Clinton Foundation are full of “inconsistencies”, possible to the point of fraud.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/05/17/oh-my-financial-analyst-says-clinton-foundation-books-riddled-with-inconsistencies-rises-to-the-level-of-fraud-n2164233
Perhaps Admin can get a look at those books and give us the scoop…….
nkit – Don’t hold your breath for the Clintons to go to jail, teflon coated for sure.
Bea, I can’t really disagree though maybe they are like the really old teflon frying pan in my closet that after quite a few years the teflon coating has worn off and shit does indeed stick to it..One can only hope that is the case for these criminals someone referred to as the “penicillin-resistant strain of syphilis” in American politics. I tend to agree with you on this, but I think it is no longer the slam dunk that it was 6-9 months ago….Comey smells a rat…or two..or three….and he knows a rat when he smells one… As Andy Dufresne said: “Hope is a good thing”
It’s rare to see a TBP’er that WANTS to believe as much as starfucker does despite so much evidence to the contrary. As Ann Barnhardt said……anyone who desires to hold office is unfit for said office. I just hope they don’t kill tRump because he’s not as Satan-like as the rest of the ilk he’s running against.
If you don’t think tRumps business debts—legitimate or not—will not be used to influence him one way or another, you’re crazy. If he bobs on all the right knobs he may just leave office debt free. If not, he may leave office in a fancy box. One thing is for certain, he will not be allowed to fuck with the bankers finely tuned graft machine. After 103 years it is finally hitting on all cylinders and running as originally designed and intended.
Well said I/S, we can rest assured that anyone who is selected as the president in November will report directly to the banksters. I guess Starfcker gave up so I’m calling it a day.
Like i said, bea, looks like a healthy balance sheet to me. This is brand new. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-17/trump-claims-income-of-more-than-557-million-on-disclosure
Revenue is not profit. Revenue is not a balance sheet. I thought maff was your strong point.
Those are very strong revenue numbers for a privately held company. That kind of cash flow stacked up against reported liabilities is stellar. Dude is making a lot of money. We talk about PT companies all the time with ultra high valuations but no revenue. This looks like the opposite. The guy just won the republican nomination, taking on any and all, the best funded candidates we have ever seen, and he did it out of pocket. That’s impressive in any number of ways.
Just masturbation. You need a balance sheet, income statement and cash flow statement to assess the financial strength of any organization or person. So solly. Anything else is just PR bullshit. Show me the numbers and I’ll tell you how strong he is.
Private company, jim. It’s not likely we’re gonna see much else. I agree he likes to bluster with big numbers, just the way he is. But being private, remember a good part of what he spends every month turns into equity, paying down mortgages, construction loans, equiptment, etc. And unlike a PTC, no bleeding the thing dry paying dividends, or stock buybacks, or stock options. Looks to me like an enviable financial position to be in
He’s a real estate developer. He has benefited TREMENDOUSLY from the ZIRP implemented by the Fed. He owns vast amounts of land and buildings financed with vast amounts of debt. It’s all about real estate values and interest rates. He ain’t gonna do diddly squat about the Federal Reserve. They’re his best friends.
Real estate is overvalued by 30% to 50% at the current time. Interest rates have been manipulated to historic low levels. If both of these things normalized, Trump would go bankrupt again. It’s just maff.
Certainly if he follows through on some of the things he talks about, it could affect his business tremendously. You don’t sell multi million dollar condos to chinese nationals and not know where the money comes from. How much it damages him depends on how levereged he is. Everything i have read suggests he has been much more conservative since atlantic city.