Basically it is California on the West Coast and NY And New England. What does that tell us?
bb
June 6, 2016 10:17 am
Tells us there are more thieves in those parts of the country.
Fabulous
June 6, 2016 10:29 am
I don’t know about that. Our property and school tax in California was 80,000 a year, and we have a bigger property here in New York state and it’s only 36,000 a year. And for our tax bracket here it feels like we pay less tax. Even the condo in Manhattan is cheaper.
Annie
June 6, 2016 10:29 am
It looks like those statistics don’t include property taxes so you’re not getting anywhere near the whole story.
indigentandindignant
June 6, 2016 10:36 am
@fabulous
Only 36, 000 a year? Only? Fuck you! I mean seriously, fuck you. I get a bill like that I would burn the house down.
Dutchman
June 6, 2016 11:01 am
I live in Minnesota – Land of 10,000 taxes.
Our governor – Governor Goofy (Mark Dayton) many times is sedated – no kidding – can’t understand his speech. He’s some puppet for the Democrat Party. There isn’t a tax he doesn’t like.
Annie — the chart says state and local taxes … I would assume that includes property taxes
Chart can be misleading. It shows Maine as #3, and NJ as #7. But, the average house price (and associated property tax) in NJ is probably three or four times that of Maine.
Annie
June 6, 2016 11:41 am
Stucky, it says “as a percent of income”. Property taxes aren’t a percentage of your income so it would get pretty complicated if they’re including property tax…
Iska Waran
June 6, 2016 12:16 pm
Something few have noticed: Trump’s tax plan would eliminate all credits & deductions except for mortgage interest & charitable deductions. In exchange for lower rates. That means eliminating deductions for state & local taxes. Who would that hurt? High-tax states like NY, MA, MN, etc. Who would that help? Low-tax states like FL & TX. It would incent high-tax states to spend less, since they’d no longer be partially subsidized by the deductibility of their taxes when computing federal income tax. Just one more thing that the Powers That Be in CT, NY, DC, MD & CA don’t like about the guy.
prusmc
June 6, 2016 12:43 pm
DDearborn: it tells us that those 13 states will elect Hitlery.
Dutchman
June 6, 2016 12:44 pm
@Iska: ” Trump’s tax plan would eliminate all credits & deductions… Who would that hurt? High-tax states ….. ”
Everything has become so entangled ( to support the manipulations / lies / deceit ) that it’s impossible to change anything, without an unintended result. We are fucked.
Chris P
June 6, 2016 2:04 pm
If we could get the property taxes in there it would be staggering. You can’t do it as a percentage since the value of your property determines the amount of your taxes. If you took the total property taxes and divided by the # of people in the state would give an average.
Anonymous
June 6, 2016 4:16 pm
If people actually received benefits proportionate to the amount that they pay it wouldn’t be so bad.
But the opposite seems to be the case most of the time, or so it seems to me.
TJF
June 6, 2016 5:38 pm
I’ve lived in three of the top 10 states at one point or another. MN at least had some nice parks from the tax money. NY and CT didn’t really have anything to show for the high taxes as far as I could tell.
BONZ EYE
June 6, 2016 6:43 pm
Fabu is pulling down some serious buckage, he must be a bankster to afford 80K in property taxes. I think gays have more spendable income than straight people, why is that?
Fabulous
June 6, 2016 7:03 pm
@bonz eye
Numerous reasons. No kids, and we both were STEM in college and we are universally equal to one another in the pursuit of a goal. How many statistical biologists do you know? PhD paid position full tuition scholarship rides so zero debt. And the applications for that type of math are unlimited. That’s how he got to be, as you refer to him, “a bankster”. . When you can work long hours and your spouse understands helps. Thousand reasons. I redacted more than I left here.
indigentandindignant
June 6, 2016 7:11 pm
@fabulous
What sort of jet do you banksters own?
Fabulous
June 6, 2016 7:12 pm
@indigent
A Cessna citation. Why?
indigentandindignant
June 6, 2016 7:13 pm
I hate you so verry much right now
NickelthroweR
June 6, 2016 7:40 pm
@Bonz Eye
Since I also work in entertainment here on the Left Coast, I get to live and work with a ton of successful gay people. I think that the reason so many are successful is that it used to be considered an abomination to be gay. As a matter of fact, when I was growing up, I didn’t know of a single gay person – I thought it was a myth. No one in their right mind would have ever announced that they were gay.
I believe that this drove gay people from my generation to work like fiends to prove to themselves that they were not the perverted monsters that the rest of society took them to be. Makes sense when you think about it.
Fabulous
June 6, 2016 9:11 pm
There is truth in that. I didn’t think of it in those terms, but we have always worked like fiends. Gregory more so. Always on a mission to prove something to his father.
Hmmm
Basically it is California on the West Coast and NY And New England. What does that tell us?
Tells us there are more thieves in those parts of the country.
I don’t know about that. Our property and school tax in California was 80,000 a year, and we have a bigger property here in New York state and it’s only 36,000 a year. And for our tax bracket here it feels like we pay less tax. Even the condo in Manhattan is cheaper.
It looks like those statistics don’t include property taxes so you’re not getting anywhere near the whole story.
@fabulous
Only 36, 000 a year? Only? Fuck you! I mean seriously, fuck you. I get a bill like that I would burn the house down.
I live in Minnesota – Land of 10,000 taxes.
Our governor – Governor Goofy (Mark Dayton) many times is sedated – no kidding – can’t understand his speech. He’s some puppet for the Democrat Party. There isn’t a tax he doesn’t like.
http://conservativeminnesotans.blogspot.com/2014/10/is-mark-dayton-mentally-competent-to.html
Annie — the chart says state and local taxes … I would assume that includes property taxes
Chart can be misleading. It shows Maine as #3, and NJ as #7. But, the average house price (and associated property tax) in NJ is probably three or four times that of Maine.
Stucky, it says “as a percent of income”. Property taxes aren’t a percentage of your income so it would get pretty complicated if they’re including property tax…
Something few have noticed: Trump’s tax plan would eliminate all credits & deductions except for mortgage interest & charitable deductions. In exchange for lower rates. That means eliminating deductions for state & local taxes. Who would that hurt? High-tax states like NY, MA, MN, etc. Who would that help? Low-tax states like FL & TX. It would incent high-tax states to spend less, since they’d no longer be partially subsidized by the deductibility of their taxes when computing federal income tax. Just one more thing that the Powers That Be in CT, NY, DC, MD & CA don’t like about the guy.
DDearborn: it tells us that those 13 states will elect Hitlery.
@Iska: ” Trump’s tax plan would eliminate all credits & deductions… Who would that hurt? High-tax states ….. ”
Everything has become so entangled ( to support the manipulations / lies / deceit ) that it’s impossible to change anything, without an unintended result. We are fucked.
If we could get the property taxes in there it would be staggering. You can’t do it as a percentage since the value of your property determines the amount of your taxes. If you took the total property taxes and divided by the # of people in the state would give an average.
If people actually received benefits proportionate to the amount that they pay it wouldn’t be so bad.
But the opposite seems to be the case most of the time, or so it seems to me.
I’ve lived in three of the top 10 states at one point or another. MN at least had some nice parks from the tax money. NY and CT didn’t really have anything to show for the high taxes as far as I could tell.
Fabu is pulling down some serious buckage, he must be a bankster to afford 80K in property taxes. I think gays have more spendable income than straight people, why is that?
@bonz eye
Numerous reasons. No kids, and we both were STEM in college and we are universally equal to one another in the pursuit of a goal. How many statistical biologists do you know? PhD paid position full tuition scholarship rides so zero debt. And the applications for that type of math are unlimited. That’s how he got to be, as you refer to him, “a bankster”. . When you can work long hours and your spouse understands helps. Thousand reasons. I redacted more than I left here.
@fabulous
What sort of jet do you banksters own?
@indigent
A Cessna citation. Why?
I hate you so verry much right now
@Bonz Eye
Since I also work in entertainment here on the Left Coast, I get to live and work with a ton of successful gay people. I think that the reason so many are successful is that it used to be considered an abomination to be gay. As a matter of fact, when I was growing up, I didn’t know of a single gay person – I thought it was a myth. No one in their right mind would have ever announced that they were gay.
I believe that this drove gay people from my generation to work like fiends to prove to themselves that they were not the perverted monsters that the rest of society took them to be. Makes sense when you think about it.
There is truth in that. I didn’t think of it in those terms, but we have always worked like fiends. Gregory more so. Always on a mission to prove something to his father.