“Too Many Whites” – MSNBC ‘Tweaks’ CNN Poll To Show Hillary Back In The Lead

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Just over a month ago, Donald Trump shocked the establishment and took the lead in national polls.

Reuters jumped into action and ‘tweaked’ its polling methodology.

In a presidential campaign notable for its negativity, the option of “Neither” candidate appears to be an appealing alternative, at least to participants in the Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll.

 

Many voters on both sides have been ambivalent in their support for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and Republican nominee Donald Trump, complicating the task of the pollsters trying to track the race.

 

That sentiment may help explain an apparent skew that recently emerged in the Reuters/Ipsos poll results. Given the choice, a relatively large group of voters opted for “Neither/Other” candidate compared with other major polls, leading to an underreporting of several percentage points for one or other of the two major contenders at times in the race.

 

As a result, Reuters/Ipsos is amending the wording of the choice and eliminating the word “Neither,” bringing the option in line with other polls.

And order was restored with Hillary surging into the lead:

 

Today, however, a CNN national poll showed Trump regaining the lead (by 2 pts):

Donald Trump has a two-point edge over Hillary Clinton in the latest CNN/ORC national survey of likely voters out Tuesday, as the Democratic nominee’s post-convention lead has largely evaporated.

 

Among those likely to vote in two months, Trump took 45 percent to Clinton’s 43 percent, while Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson earned 7 percent and Green Party nominee Jill Stein had 2 percent. But among all registered voters surveyed, Clinton leads by 3 points, 44 percent to 41 percent, while Johnson took 9 percent and Stein 3 percent.

 

The Republican nominee has a slightly higher favorability rating than Clinton among likely voters, although both are still underwater. Trump is seen favorably by 45 percent and unfavorably by 55 percent, while Clinton is at 42 percent to 56 percent. The disparity between the two candidates is lessened among registered voters.

And so, as Politico reports, MSNBC decided another tweak was required:

MSNBC ‘unskewed’ a CNN national poll on Tuesday that showed Donald Trump leading Hillary Clinton by two points, re-weighting the results to match the 2012 electorate and showing a four-point lead for the former secretary of state.

 

The poll of likely voters, released Tuesday by CNN/ORC, showed Trump ahead of Clinton nationwide in a four-way contest, 45 percent to 43 percent. But MSNBC host Chuck Todd explained that the poll, in his network’s estimation, may have oversampled white voters without a college degree, one of Trump’s strongest groups.

 

“Whites without a college degree appear to make up nearly half of their sample. In 2012, by the way, whites without a college degree was slightly more than a third of all voters,” Todd said.

 

“The point is, your numbers may not be wrong but your weighting may be, your assumptions. So the CNN folks assumed an electorate that is not an impossible scenario for Trump, but it would be an historic shift if it occurred.”

With the numbers adjusted to reflect how the electorate shook out four years ago, Clinton’s two-point deficit shifted to a four-point lead, 46 percent to 42 percent.

Mission accomplished.

To this latest, and most entertaining, “non-GAAP” poll adjustment, we have one question: just how stupid do ‘they’ think the American people really are?

 


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kokoda
kokoda
September 7, 2016 9:13 am

The CNN people have watched many Mark Dice vids, so they have a good handle on the intelligence of the American voter.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 7, 2016 9:27 am

As long as the polls are (adjust to be) showing Hillary in the lead no one will question the results when she wins.

Those few that do will be considered right wing nutcase conspiracy theorists and dismissed from public consideration so there in no credible investigation into rigging.

Anyone ever wonder why Voter ID laws are under immediate and intense attack whenever someone tries to institute them to avoid fraud?

It isn’t because they interfere with anyone’s Constitutional rights to vote because they can’t get one, there is virtually no one living a legitimate American citizen life that doesn’t have ID.

Persnickety
Persnickety
September 7, 2016 9:27 am

The explanation kinda makes sense, but only if you look at it in a vacuum.

When the polls are “wrong” time after time after time, it’s not the polls that are wrong.

Persnickety
Persnickety
September 7, 2016 9:30 am

Also, the first three words of the headline – the quote – pretty much summarizes the entire elites’ attitude to the world today.

There is a sort of “soft genocide” going on right now. We all need to wake up and fight it.

Ironically, many of the perpetrators of this genocide are themselves white, and foolishly think they can benefit from it. They are wrong. Their future path leads to Idiocracy and much worse.

Horse
Horse
  Persnickety
September 7, 2016 12:16 pm

Idiocracy, that movie made me feel like I was less intelligent for watching it.
If you want to waste some of your life, it’s a pathetic look at a possible future.
And their vision of police state is to some degree getting it right, too many guns too little thought
for tptb.

card802
card802
September 7, 2016 9:48 am

Obama just nominated a muslim federal judge. Too help with too many whites.

susanna
susanna
September 7, 2016 10:25 am

This shit show of polls is like a soap opera, you can miss a few days
but no need to catch up…the story remains the same.
Islamic Federal judge? Great, he will declare Sharia Law, for one and
all. Thank you O.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 7, 2016 10:50 am

Gary Johnson ain’t getting no 7% of the vote. He got .99% last time and the electorate was just as retarded in 2012 as they are in 2016.

Persnickety
Persnickety
  Iska Waran
September 7, 2016 2:22 pm

Gary Johnson and his dimwit running mate are basically self-hating RINOs who have no business muddying the libertarian banner. No actual libertarian would vote for them, nor would any sincere conservative or Republican.

unit472
unit472
September 7, 2016 11:33 am

Commonsense would suggest that, as compared to 2012, white non college voter turnout will be higher as Romney was particularly unpopular with this demographic and that Clinton will not get the same turnout or support from black voters as Obama.

Horse
Horse
September 7, 2016 12:11 pm

“they” lie with impunity.
They obviously think “we” are below stupid, they continually put out loads of BS and
at lest the libtard group I know… the jew brother inlaw and others think it’s akin to the word of god.
Even if the jew brother in-law is a godless jew.

Billy
Billy
September 7, 2016 2:41 pm

Heh. “Polls”…

You can get polls saying whatever you want them to say. Which is, of course, whatever the people funding the poll want them to say…

And when they don’t end up saying what you want them to say, despite the best efforts to the contrary, you just “re-weigh” them….

“Nah, we can’t have that shit getting out… let’s just tighten that shit up a bit and tell the fuckin rubes and Proles we’re “re-weighing” that shit… they’ll believe anything…”

Just making that shit up whole cloth…

Heh…

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Overthecliff
Overthecliff
September 7, 2016 8:59 pm

Polls or other news vehicles, I don’t believe anything anymore. I don’t trust many sources and question if the source has anything to gain by lying. I go by gut feeling because it is hard to compute the truth.

Maybe HSF,Francis,Llpoh, Stucky some of you other more intelligent guys can verbalize how to sift out the truth.

jamesthewanderer
jamesthewanderer
September 9, 2016 12:36 am

The truth is inconvenient for TPTB, so they lie. It’s that simple.

Even if Hillary doesn’t drown in her own vomit (or someone else’s, as Spinal Tap was able to insinuate) she won’t win. There aren’t enough failures in America to tide her over the top.

And for the record, I know at least one white male with multiple college degrees who will NEVER vote for Hildabeast. There isn’t enough money in the universe to induce me to do so.