Guest Post by Stilton Jarlsberg
Barack Obama has ordered a “full review” of cyber-chicanery associated with the 2016 elections, under the belief that Russia may have tampered with our sacred voting process by somehow having created a 30 year history of corruption by Hillary Clinton and everyone she’s ever been in contact with.
Where do we even begin? The CIA – no doubt under orders and perhaps the threat of waterboarding – has issued a strong but factually vague statement that people who may have connections to people who may be Russian may have provided Wikileaks with vast amounts of hacked information about Hillary’s decades-long history of sleazy deals and ineptitude, which may have influenced the election because (unlike most information given to voters) it was all true.
The accusations would be more plausible if the CIA, FBI, and DOJ weren’t so thoroughly compromised by their own political cover-ups and scandals at this point. As their main mission is now the protection of undeserving Democratic asses, we’re not exactly impressed with anything they’re saying now.
And just how “meta” is the accusation that Russia tried to corrupt our election process by releasing proof (and plenty of it) that Hillary and the DNC had already corrupted the election process? Who’s the actual criminal here, and who’s simply a witness?
Hope n’ Change actually thinks it pretty unlikely that Russia had anything to do with the release of damning information about Hillary and her cohorts in crime. After all, if they had hacked all this dirt (not to mention every Top Secret hosted on her email server) wouldn’t they want Hillary to win so that they’d own an American President because of all the blackmail potential?
That’s why we think it far more likely that the source of the hacked material was an individual patriot from the Democratic party or a domestic intelligence agency who saw this as the only way to save America from a corrupt, shrieking, money-grubbing, two-faced, brain-damaged harpy with a gift for screwing up every policy issue she’s ever touched.
Obama’s highly publicized demand for a report on computer espionage is supposed to be rushed to his Oval Office desk (no doubt to be left between his fingernail clippings and scuff marks from the heels of his shoes), but the results may never be made public. Which is hardly surprising, considering that the actual purpose of Obama’s call for an investigation is simply to delegitimize the upcoming Presidency of Donald Trump.
In other words, a hostile government really is trying to subvert the will of American voters. It just happens to be the government currently in Washington.
If there is any actual hard, verifiable, evidence it should be presented.
But I doubt there is, conspiracy theories rarely have any and I see this one as no different than the others.
If it were to be definitively proven that the Russians had hacked information which led to Hillary losing the election, I for one, would be willing to give them most favored trading status and present a Medal of Honor to Putin.
Let me try and break this down for everyone in a way that’s easy to understand.
If you see evidence of criminality being done by those in power, that’s a conspiracy theory. If you write about it presenting the facts in detail, that’s fake news.
If people in power lose legitimately, it’s because of a conspiracy.
If they write about it without presenting any evidence, that’s real news.
I hope this helps.
“In other words, a hostile government really is trying to subvert the will of American voters. It just happens to be the government currently in Washington.”
O just keeps throwing shite against the wall and hopes some of it sticks.
“Hope n’ Change” is such an excellent post. We love it.
Imagine if we had Hill? The hubris and corruption would have sickened
even the corrupt. And she, et al, would have killed some folks.
Ten Electoral College Electors Want Briefing On “Russian Interference” Before Presidential Vote
by Tyler Durden
Dec 12, 2016 11:10 AM
In our initial take on the Washington Post’s story about the “secret” CIA assessment that Russia helped Trump win the election (since contested by the FBI), we said that this may amount to nothing short of a “soft coup” attempt by leaders in the US Intel community and the Obama administration, and warned to expect of a push by prominent democrats to pressure the electoral college to “take into consideration” these findings next Monday, on December 19, when the formal vote for president is set to take place.
This is how we summarized the newly-formed narrative:
Announce “consensus” (not unanimous) “conclusion” based in circumstantial evidence now, before the Electoral College vote, then write a report with actual details due by Jan 20.
Put a proven liar – James Clapper – in charge of writing the report on Russian hacking.
Fail to mention that not one of the leaked DNC or Podesta emails has been shown to be inauthentic. So the supposed Russian hacking simply revealed truth about Hillary, DNC, and MSM collusion and corruption.
Fail to mention that if hacking was done by or for US government to stop Hillary, blaming the Russians would be the most likely disinformation used by US agencies.
Expect every pro-Hillary lapdog journalist – which is virtually all of them – in America will hyperventilate (Twitter is currently on fire) about this latest fact-free, anti-Trump political stunt for the next nine days.
To be sure, shortly after our post, first Paul Krugman, then other prominent liberals including Nate Silver and various House representative, validated out point: if Russia has indeed intervened, then the electoral college must be made aware, and briefed ahead of the Dec. 19 vote. It culminated with a Politico report on Saturday, according to which a Democratic congressman suggested that members of the Electoral College should be able to consider Russian interference in the presidential election — and whether it influenced the outcome — when deciding how to cast their vote.
Cicilline appears to be the first member of Congress and the highest-ranking elected official in the country to endorse the notion that electors aren’t simply rubber stamps for their states’ popular vote. Earlier Saturday, he retweeted a Rhode Island-based national security expert who argued that the intelligence community “must brief electoral college about Russia before vote.”
“To the extent that foreign interference in the United States presidential elections may have influenced the final result, I believe the electors have the right to consider that,” Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.) said in a statement to POLITICO on Saturday.
“EC exists to protect republic from candidate under foreign influence,” the expert, Salve Regina University researcher Jim Ludes, wrote.
Cicilline stopped short of endorsing that sentiment in his statement to POLITICO. But in a second tweet on Saturday, he urged the White House to publicize information surrounding the CIA’s assessment that Russia intervened in the election to help Trump. “Before the Electoral College votes,” he added.
Fast forward to Monday, when Democratic lawmaker Jim Himes was lobbying the Electoral College to shun Donald Trump, and vote for Hillary Clinton — even though he conceded Monday that the Republican won the election “fair and square.” As the Post reported, Rep. Jim Himes’ (D-Conn.) plea comes a week before the Dec. 19 vote, which is expected to affirm the results of the Nov. 8 election, in which Trump beat Clinton with 306 Electoral College votes.
“We’re 5 wks from Inauguration & the President Elect is completely unhinged. The electoral college must do what it was designed for,” Himes wrote Sunday night on Twitter in response to Trump’s gripe that NBC’s “Nightly News” is “biased, inaccurate and bad, point after point.”
In an interview Monday on CNN’s “New Day,” Himes said that Trump’s refusal to say that the Russian hacked Democrats during the election was what prompted his plea to the electoral college.
“What finally pushed me over the edge was when the president-elect of the United States criticized the CIA and the intelligence community. Can you imagine what the leaders in Beijing and Moscow and Tehran are thinking as they watch the next president of the United States de-legitimize and criticize his own intelligence community and stand up for the defense of Russia, one of our prime adversaries,” said Himes.
The Democratic rep said the move would result in “an awful lot of litigation,” but said it was the right thing to do under the system that currently exists. “The Electoral College, if you read the Federalist papers and understand why it is there, it is a group of people. It is not an algorithm. It is not a set of ballots. It is a group of people that our Founding Fathers, you know, to whom supposedly we all sort of defer to, pledged the idea that if someone gets elected that is manifestly ill equipped to be president … that the Electoral College can step in.” he said.
Still Himes, who said Trump isn’t qualified to be a “mayor of a small town in Connecticut,” admitted that “under the rules, President-elect Donald Trump won “fair and square.”
In any case, it will likely come as no surprise that moments ago ten Electoral College electors have asked U.S. intelligence officials for more information on ongoing investigations surrounding President-elect Donald Trump’s relationship with Russia, complying with the narrative as laid out on Saturday.
The group of electors, which includes the daughter of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, wrote an open letter to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper asking for the information ahead of their Dec. 19 meeting to formally vote for the next president, the Hill reports.
“The Electors require to know from the intelligence community whether there are ongoing investigations into ties between Donald Trump, his campaign or associates, and Russian government interference in the election, the scope of those investigations, how far those investigations may have reached, and who was involved in those investigations,” the letter read.
“We further require a briefing on all investigative findings, as these matters directly impact the core factors in our deliberations of whether Mr. Trump is fit to serve as President of the United States.”
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To be sure, the Electoral College’s appeal faces a steep uphill climb if it is to succeed: nine Democrats and only one Republican signed the letter. The Republican, Christopher Suprun, has said that he won’t vote for Trump when the Electoral College meets. So far no other republicans have expressed an interest in challenging the vote outcome. Also on Monday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell rejected Sen. John McCain’s call for a special panel to investigate Russian election interference.
“We further require a briefing on all investigative findings, as these matters directly impact the core factors in our deliberations of whether Mr. Trump is fit to serve as President of the United States.”
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Fat chance…
First time in memory Mitch ( Mush) McConnel took an unequivocal stand. Expect Song bird McCain and Lady Graham to switch from Republican to Democrat soon.
They switched to Democrat years ago, they just never admitted it.
Bad news-somebody got to McConnell.There’s gonna be a Senate investigation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/12/12/schumer-on-congressional-probe-of-russia-i-dont-want-this-to-turn-into-a-benghazi-investigation/?utm_term=.8eb783404d1a&wpisrc=nl_politics-pm&wpmm=1
Once again the great Glenn Greenwald tacks their asses to the wall:
Someone tell Barry Soetro Regie Love is on the lawn waiting and quickly change the locks to the white house. Give Obama a fly swatter .
Were the Democrats concerned about Russ, er, Soviet agents and front groups during the Cold War? No! They approved of Soviet ‘disinformation’ back then because it targeted Republicans and the few Democrat “hawks’ like Scoop Jackson or Sam Nunn.
This whole ‘Russia influenced the election’ is an ex post facto scheme. Did Hillary bring it up during the debates or in her speeches? No! Did our melanin enriched president request a report on Russian ‘meddling’ before the election? S No! Surely the CIA was aware Podesta’s emails were being published in US newspapers. Why didn’t they track down the source when they first began to appear?
The answer to the question is ‘the polls’. Obama, The Rodhamster and the CIA all assumed Clinton would win. She didn’t so there must have been foul play.
The question I have is, why do we need the CIA at all. It has more personel than ISIS and Al Qaeda combined. We could have a CIA employee ‘tail’ every Muslim terrorist in the world and it would be a helluva lot more effective than having tens of thousands of CIA staff driving to their offices in Northern Virginia everyday!
Good points, unit472. The Dems thought they were so smart, but there was no “Plan B”. If trying to blame the Russians at this point IS their Plan B, it’s failing miserably.
When I was in 9th grade, Lamar Alexander (I’m not a fan, really, but listen) was elected Governor of Tennessee. This was largely due to the scandals created by his predecessor, Ray Blanton. Blanton’s laundry list of misbehaviors was huge; after forty years I can still remember
Selling state surplus vehicles (think retiring State Trooper police cars, panel vans from state agencies, etc.) to his brother to re-sell at a profit;
Selling pardons and paroles to well-connected and well-heeled convicts;
Hiring the Humphreys County Democratic party chair’s brother, another convict, as a state photographer;
Misdeeds with the state prison system (they made a movie about that one), which Wikipedia describes as follows:
[In 1977, Blanton fired Marie Ragghianti, chairwoman of the state’s Board of Pardons and Paroles, when she refused to release prisoners who, as was later determined, had bribed state officials in exchange for obtaining pardons (Ragghianti later sued and won a $38,000 judgment against the state). On December 15, 1978, the FBI raided the state capitol, and seized documents from the office of Blanton’s legal advisor, T. Edward Sisk. Sisk and two others were arrested, and Blanton appeared before a federal grand jury on December 23, where he denied any wrongdoing. A portion of the story of the pardons scandal was made into a book, Marie: A True Story, by Peter Maas, author of Serpico, and eventually made into the motion picture, Marie (1985), starring Sissy Spacek in the title role of Marie Ragghianti.]
Anyway, Blanton was threatening to release every prisoner on Death Row for some reason, and Lamar Alexander was sworn in three days early to get him out of office. I marched with my junior high school band in Alexander’s Inauguration parade.
Why can’t we swear in Trump in December after the Electoral College vote, and keep Obama from doing any more damage on his way out? It worked in Tennessee!