John Derbyshire for Secretary of Education!: Extreme Times Call for Extreme Measures

 

In looking for a piece I seemed to remember  in which John, a prolific internet presence,  advocates abolishing public education, I came across his overall diagnosis of schooling in America, well worth reading and a marvel of concision and accuracy. On its strength I hereby nominate him as SecEd, as one says in the as-yet undrained swamp on the Potomac. I nominate myself as Asst. SecEd, with the title of Lord High Executioner and a government-supplied guillotine. Schooling will never be the same. Heh heh.

Having thus arranged the Republic to my satisfaction, I will now address myself to deeper matters.

A question John raises in the piece I was looking for, and answers in the negative, is whether any reason exists for public schooling beyond perhaps fifth grade. It does seem reasonable that the population not actually moronic should be able read menus and street signs. It also seems possible.

But beyond fifth grade?

In the column racket one is required to say that our children are the future–may God have mercy–and that democracy requires an educated electorate knowing history, geography, languages and such so as to have a grasp of the issues of the day, etc, and so on, and on, to the last syllable of recorded tedium. Questions seldom asked: Does American schooling produce such an electorate? Can it? Could it? Does anyone really want it? Or does it simply keep children out of their parents hair, and off the job market?

For that matter, does college–”college”–do any better? For  a few, yes. For most, no. (From this I omit things like the sciences and engineering, which are trade-school subjects.)

I submit that these are practical questions, not just the self-congratulatory horror of the aging.

We have all seen the surveys showing that “college” graduates do not know when the Civil War  took place, where Afghanistan might be, and cannot find the Pacific Ocean on a map of the Hawaiian Islands. For most students, most education is a farce, a waste of time and money.

So why do it?

The failure to learn is not, or not uniquely, a problem of intelligence. Obviously the actually stupid will not learn anything. But neither do the intelligent. John points out that his own children, presumably bright, took four years of high-school Spanish yet cannot speak a sentence.

Do you know anybody who learned any language in high school? Or in “college”? Languages can be taught, and are in countries such as Finland and Denmark, but American schools are hopeless, and Americans uninterested.

Somewhat parenthetically, for the bright student, public schooling is both an obstacle and a torment. He, or most assuredly she, is quickly reading five grades ahead of class. Such students prop open the tops of their desks to sneak-read  books about dinosaurs or astronomy, or Jane Eyre. They do not give a wan, etiolated damn about how Mommy Beaver had three sticks, and Little Baby Beaver had two, and how many in all did the wretched animals have?

Wait. A moment of madness is coming over me. Ha! I am going to make Milo Yiannopoulos Press Secretary. Heheeheeheee!

Back to ponderous wisdom. Bright kids learn to read by reading, by going to the library and coming back with ten books, by reading voraciously, indiscriminately, clandestinely reading under the covers at night with flashlights. You don’t teach them to read. You get out of their way. In fact, you don’t teach them much of anything. They do it.

Coming back to the plight of John’s kids and Spanish, I ask myself what I actually learned in high school. Almost nothing. I took required courses in economics, geography, Latin, Spanish, English, some kind of history (that I cannot remember what sort of history suggests that it did not add materially to my store of knowledge), government–and and came as blank as I had begun. While I wasn’t bright enough to attract tour buses, I was some above average–and yet, apart from math, learned no more than the dumbest kids. If Tommy (name redacted) hadn’t stolen the senior-civics exam, I would still be in high school.

I did profit from two years of algebra, one of plane geometry, and typing. Why? Because I was interested. I can still do long division of polynomials. What I really most learned in school (my high school transcript may not fascinate you. Patience. I am coming to a point) was physiology. For some reason it interested me and I inhaled textbooks, to lasting effect (eosinophils, neutrophils, basophils, large and small monocytes…see?)

From which we conclude: Kids will learn what interests them. They won’t learn anything else. This is why hackers of fifteen years break into secured networks but do  not know whether Columbus discovered America or the other way around.

So what is the point of school?

Far better would be perhaps junior high followed by vocational training in a field of interest to the student. In four years currently wasted on learning nothing, a kid could get a monumental head start on being an auto mechanic (look under the hood of your car and tell me it’s a job for dummies), electrician, paramedic, computer tech, accountant, dental technician, and so on. Or be phenomenally ready for med school. Such training of the very young would not in all fields amount to professional competence, but  would produce dynamite candidates for further study.

This would serve the primary purpose of keeping them off the streets. Kids would be no less  prepared to make momentous decisions of state–heaven help us–than current ones. They would also end up as adults, not Snowflakes

Why is American schooling a disaster? Because it rests on the bedrock of  envy, the grinding resentment of the superior. “You ain’t no gooder’n me” might be the national slogan, embodying both the attitude and its dire grammatical consequences. Envy explains the emphasis on the mentally halt and lame, on disguising the inability of the dull. Everyone must go to “college” to hide the incandescently obvious, that most are not bright enough. Kids who cannot count their fingers, much less on them, must be put in AP classes. And so on.

Feminized schools are run by women of low cerebral voltage who have no intellectual interests and probably resent the bright. A kid of IQ 140 will regard his ed-major teacher, at 95, as a form of tuber and she will guess as much. The emphasis in this Slough of Despond falls on making sure that No Kid Gets Ahead. It works. The whole charade needs to be abolished.

To digress,  perchance to dream: While I am reorganizing the government, I will appoint Eric Margolis as Secretary of State, and put Patrick Cockbern or Robert Fisk on the Middle East desk. A journalist who has spent a lifetime covering foreign affairs on the ground may know more about it than some damn Coca-Cola executive. But my mind wanders.

Yet many who are bright enough for university simply have no interest. To many, a commercial-diving ticket appeals more than a degree in The Sociology of Breathing. What earthly point is there in subjecting him to the high-school equivalent of those miserable beavers?

How important is a fifth-rate unremembered education to the betterment of society? John makes the point that the English empire was administered entirely by men who learned nothing  in school but Latin classics. (Stalky&Co. is canonical.) Of course they had a sense of noblesse oblige as a matter of caste and, I think, a comparative immunity to corruption–”it isn’t done, you know”–which we do not. A society founded on class has advantages.

When Mr. Derbyshire finds that he has been dragooned into the federal government, he will probably go into hiding. I will have him hunted down by muscular skip-tracers with large butterfly nets. And oil my guillotine for the coming years. There are callings that transcend personal preference.

 

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Mark
Mark
December 15, 2016 12:19 pm

Yes, but what will all the teachers do for jobs?

And what would all the property taxes be used for?

Without government schools and property taxes, all other worthless government jobs would be in jeopardy as well.

michele dinsmore
michele dinsmore
  Mark
December 15, 2016 1:03 pm

Ohhhh! The horrors! (NOT!)LOL

BB
BB
December 15, 2016 12:25 pm

One thing I did learn in the 8th grade was my multiplication tables.We had to memorize them.My best education was in my spare time working on muscle cars in high school.I learn how to take shit by playing high school football . Even learned friendship and how to be a friend.I learned a lot working on the farm to.Mostly how to repair things. Maybe it all worked because it was fun/interesting for me.Guess Fred is right.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  BB
December 15, 2016 2:17 pm

Eight grade – multiplication tables – Jesus H Christ – I learned them in fourth grade.

BB – I thought you were white.

second grade
second grade
  BB
December 15, 2016 4:40 pm

“8th grade was my multiplication tables”

WOW! The school I attended taught these in second grade. Today, however they do not teach them at all.

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
December 15, 2016 12:28 pm

Hit and miss, overall pretty good, especially Milo as Press Secretary; any hostile questions can be countered with “you homophobic bastard!” and the JournoList’s brain will explode in self-contradiction.
Engineering is NOT a trade school subject. Not if you want chemical reactors that work without explosions, electrical grids that function under highly variable loads, or mechanical machinery that puts up with what you put it through.
I grew up with “You ain’t no gooder’n me” ; by junior high I had decided to ignore it.
The solution is not to abolish public schooling as such; it’s to return it to the states, eliminate the DoEd as a roadblock to progress, and raise the expectations of graduates from public schools. If a given school fails to generate 50% employable or college-bound graduates, then that school should be investigated: is it the teachers, the students themselves or lack of parental support of education at home? Different solutions must be tried depending on what the cause of class failure turns out to be.
And education in ethical behavior (his allusion to the English bureaucratic class) MUST be returned to schools. If a given parent objects to his child being taught ethics, he / she must provide proof that THEY are providing such education. Society depends on being able to trust each other not to lie, steal and cheat at every opportunity.

I. C.
I. C.
December 15, 2016 1:43 pm

Without government-run schools, how could the kiddos become completely indoctrinated?

“Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.” ~Lenin

TPC
TPC
December 15, 2016 2:37 pm

He hit the nail on the head when he mentioned the IQ95 teacher trying to instruct any of the brighter students.

Specifically, they can’t teach a male student.

They hate our energy. They hate our willingness to challenge authority, to question things that don’t make sense. All they wanted were cogs, and they manage to forge most young men into just that. Unthinking, unfeeling, depressed sacks meat, these once exuberant boys who have had their dignity stripped away from them by a lifetime of society telling them what terrible people they are ride their life out accomplishing nothing. They consume because society tells them they must, they take no chances because that wouldn’t be responsible, and they die borderline penniless as the society that raised and shaped them casts them aside in favor of the new batch of cogs in the machine.

Desertrat
Desertrat
December 15, 2016 3:17 pm

In 1992 I accompanied my wife to a trade show in Las Vegas. While she was doing her usual winning on the quarter slots, I was up in the room watching the TV news and reading.

A third-grade teacher related how proud she was that her students had learned the times table to 10 times 10.

I levitated at this obvious example of dumbing down. I had learned the times tables to 12 times 12 in the second grade–in 1942. During that year in Miss Crystal’s class we also practiced cursive penmanship and worked with simple-arithmetic flash cards.

While I don’t remember if it were third grade or fourth grade, we learned about diagramming sentences. Is that even done, nowadays?

Purplefrog
Purplefrog
  Desertrat
December 15, 2016 4:59 pm

“I don’t remember if it WERE…” Go to the head of the class my man! You used the subjunctive mood properly!!! Not only did you learn math, you learned English grammer. What year was this again..?

phoolish
phoolish
  Desertrat
December 15, 2016 5:34 pm

That was fixed by not teaching “cursive” any longer. Don’t ya know, all that’s needed is a keyboard.

Anon
Anon
December 15, 2016 3:35 pm

I am not sure where the article is, however I remember a while back Admin had commented about a new School Palace in West Philly that was built at huge expense, in the hope that the kids that were failing would start succeeding because it was the old buildings fault. Predictably, the kids kept failing. I see the same type of thinking in every government run agency. I am convinced that the current system is not about teaching anyone. It is about the comfort and prestige of the teachers, professors, admins etc. The kids are just the means to con the parents / society in to continuing to put up with the grift and theft by government.

BB
BB
December 15, 2016 3:35 pm

Ditch ,I guess I not a genius like.Speling has been my down fall?

Homer
Homer
December 15, 2016 3:36 pm

Fred, you miss the point. The purpose of education is to produce “cookie cutter people”. That was the purpose of the German system, to create cogwheels in the corporate production machinery.

The system you find in school is the same system you find in the military or prison systems.

I consider the time between kindergarten and college as my wasted years, except for little Becky Farnsworth, who taught me everything I ever needed to know about sex.

Skooling, so, killed my desire to learn, it took me 10 years after college to even pick up a book.

Some people latch on to schooling like a leach latches on to the buttocks of an inadvertent swimmer. That, just, wasn’t me. I was a hopeless non-believer, much to the consternation of my angelic wardens doing God’s work. It’s surprising how asking some questions can elicit a full blown hissy-fit accompanied by a declaration that I will surely burn in hell. So much for intellectual discourse.

That’s a part of life, I guess!

Vic
Vic
  Homer
December 17, 2016 2:44 am

From Junior High, on, I hated school and don’t think I learned a thing, except Literature, English and History, which were the subjects I liked. Years later, I was looking at report cards my mother keep when I was in high school. I made a D in Psychology because I apparently “sleep too much in class.” I don’t even remember taking Psychology in high school!

Vic
Vic
  Vic
December 17, 2016 2:53 am

By the way, I made straight “F”s in Typing class when I was in high school because I never attended class because it was first period and I didn’t usually get there until 2nd period. Yet, I now type for a living, working as an editor and transcriptionist. Life is funny. It’s not that I couldn’t type. It’s that I hated the class.

Desertrat
Desertrat
December 15, 2016 5:57 pm

Purplefrog, I grew up in the middle of a bunch of school teachers. One result is that I’m rather a “walking spell check”. 😀

In today’s world it is difficult to refrain from being a Grammar Nazi.

Purplefrog
Purplefrog
  Desertrat
December 15, 2016 9:40 pm

I understand. My mom was an English teacher. I guess it’s as much about home as it is school.

Willem Willems
Willem Willems
  Purplefrog
December 15, 2016 10:48 pm

Well, my Mom was a Latin teacher… so when I hear some dufus use the word “decimate”….

Life can be difficult!

Walt
Walt
December 16, 2016 12:40 am

‘Those that can, do. Those that can’t, teach.’ – Grandpa.

TrickleUpPolitics
TrickleUpPolitics
December 16, 2016 10:02 am

I strongly disagree with the premise of the article that most people need no schooling after fifth grade. World history and American history should be taught-people need to have a frame of reference when forming an opinion about what our government is doing. After all, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Secondly, students have been known to bloom in school after 5th grade when something ignites the spark of curiosity. I was a voracious reader from a very young age and I contend that you can get an education in almost any subject you choose if you know how to read and have access to a library. Reading, assuming you are reading books and not comic books-teach you how to write by exposing you to good writing. Our students today cannot write a decent sentence because they don’t read. They can’t spell because they don’t read. They can’t think critically and reason to a conclusion because they aren’t taught to, instead they are taught to memorize stuff that will do them no good. When I taught criminal law in college, my students teased me because they felt they had mostly learned to look for mens rea and actus reus: bad intent and bad act. I also taught them how to reason to the correct answer. Once they grasp that content, they can learn the law of whichever jurisdiction they go to work in, but they will definitey know how to look for the two elements that make a crime -mens rea and actus reus-and will know how to apply the facts to reach the proper conclusion. I was teaching criminal law to a classroom of policemen and assigned them a paper on any topic they chose. The structure of the paper, as every good paper requires, is tell us the question you are trying to answer, marshal your facts from credible sources (no Wikipedia!), analyze the facts, and reach a conclusion. I was shocked when I saw that none of them could reach a conclusion or even understood what it was. I was shocked because all of them had been to court in jury trials which follow the same structure as the research paper: tell the judge/jury the question you are trying to answer-did this perp do the named crime-, produce facts in court from credible witnesses, in closing arguments the lawyers analyze the facts and apply them to the elements of the crime as set forth in the jury instructions, the jury retires and decides which sources and which facts it thinks is credible and apply them to the jury instructions, and then reach a conclusion: guilty or not guilty. I was hard put to teach those cops the difference between an opinion and a conclusion based on facts. I was born in 1951 and received a heckuva good education. We did diagram sentences, we tried to learn foreign languages…I took Latin and French and still get some benefit from that today. I ended up majoring in Russian in college and learning German while I was stationed there by the Air Force. Learning languages teaches you about different cultures. We learned some math-we were required to take two years of algebra and one year of geometry. My mother saw to it that I knew my alphabet and numbers before I started in first grade. I learned the multiplication tables in second grade. I know how to calculate percentages and the area of my room when I try to calculate how much paint to buy or how much new carpet will cost. I could go on but you get the gist. I took music and fell in love. Music teaches you about other cultures and refines your taste. Listening to hateful rap is harmful and poisonous, but if the kids have never been exposed to good music, what is their standard of comparison? We were socialized by spending time with our peers and learning how to respect our elders. I could go on, but I do not agree with stopping education at the fifth grade. I do believe in expelling students who are disruptive and refuse to learn so the others can learn. I think charter schools and alternative schools and home schooling are all wonderful ideas because I do agree we need to break the power of the teacher unions over public education. I agree that the Dept of Education needs to done away with and education returned to local control. So, there is much that Mr. Derbeyshire can agree on, but I disagree with ending education in the fifth grade. It feels like giving up on our youth. That’s unfair to them and to our society at large.

Vic
Vic
  TrickleUpPolitics
December 17, 2016 2:49 am

If you get out of 5th grade, find you are interested in education again, finance it yourself or find a charity school. That’s how school used to be.
Samuel Pepys, from the 17th century, hired tutors when he wanted to learn something new.
When I graduated from high school with that diploma, I admit I was an idiot. A couple of years later, I decided I needed to know a few things. I bought books and studied. Now my friends and family consider me a “smart person.” Today, it’s even easier through the internet. That’s how you educate yourself.