Is Christianity in Decline?

Guest Post by Martin Armstrong

VaticanPope Francis is rather concerned about what he calls a “hemorrhage” of priests and nuns from the Catholic church. Indeed, the loss of clergy is weakening the church over the past decades. The Pope commented on how nuns and priests have just quit claiming that modern society discourages lifelong commitments as in the soaring divorce rate. He further said that people conduct their lives based on “a la carte” choices.

The decline in people attending church services is not just engulfing the Catholic church. This is a trend which is infecting Christianity as a whole, and is reflected in the Podesta emails revealed the Democrats disliked Catholics and Evangelical Christians. Hillary’s staff said Catholics are “severely backwards” and further demeaned them saying they don’t know “what the hell they’re talking about.” Then you have Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi who recently said: “They pray in church on Sunday and then prey on people the rest of the week.”

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The decline of Rome coincided with the collapse in their religious beliefs during the 3rd century. Once the Emperor Valerian I was captured by the Persians from Iran in 260AD, confidence began to collapsed in the survival of the Empire. Other barbarians realized they could invade Rome for it was now weak. People turned to their gods and prayed, but nothing happened. Pagans then blamed the Christians saying the gods were offended by them and were punishing Rome because of the Christians. That led to the widespread Christian persecutions under Diocletian.

Tetreacrhy-R2Constantine-SolThe fall of Paganism dovetailed with the fall of Rome for the foundation of a society is its religious beliefs. The spread of Christianity contributed to the fall. The Edict of Milan legalized Christianity in 313AD, and it later became the state religion in 380AD. These decrees ended Christian of persecution, but they also eroded the traditional Roman values system. Constantine the Great (307-337AD) championed Christianity, but for political purposes. The polytheistic Roman religion did not truly create a divine status of the Emperor as was the case in Asian culture while living. Constantine defeated the Tetrarchy set up by Diocletian arguing one God, one emperor. We can see this gold medallion pictures Constantine with the sun god Sol who was being portrayed as the invincible supreme god among pagans who always appeared each morning. This medallion demonstrates how Constantine was using religion to support there should be a single emperor not four.

Constantine began to merge religion with the emperor for political purposes. In declaring Christianity the state religion he enabled himself to rob the temples of the Pagans. That was very profitable using the funds to build his new capitol – Constantinople. Christianity by no means played any role in curbing Roman civic virtue nor did it create some religious state. The night Constantine died, his son, Constantine II was perhaps the main instigator in what has become known as the “palace massacre” during which most family members born of his step-grandmother Theodora were murdered. Christian values certainly did not change the morals of the elite within the Roman Empire.

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In 212AD, universal citizenship had been granted to all freeborn inhabitants of the empire. As the economy imploded following the reign of Maximinus I (235-238AD) who simply declared all wealth belonged to the State, it was Trajan Decius (249-251AD) who enacted measures intended to restore stability and unity. Decius included a requirement that Roman citizens affirm their loyalty through religious ceremonies in 250AD. Christian citizens faced prosecution since any citizen who refused to participate in the empire-wide supplicatio was subject to the death penalty. Decius was killed in battle the following year. Therefore, this decree was short-lived and was a significant departure from previous imperial policy that Christians were not to be sought out and prosecuted as inherently disloyal. There had been freedom religion at the core of the Roman Empire. Nevertheless, even under Decius, orthodox Christians were subject to arrest only for their refusal to participate in Roman civic religion. They were not arrested for assembling to worship their own religion. This was the very beginning of the religious persecution post-Nero.

Contrary to popular belief, Christianity flourished because of the religious freedom within the Roman Empire. There were so many gods only because Rome allowed each country it conquered to retain their own religion. Following the edict of Decius, Christianity actually grew for the following four decades. This period became known among Christian scholars as the “Little Peace of the Church”, which ended when Diocletian launched the final and “Great” Persecution in 303AD.

Whether this is coincidence of not is hard to say for we do not have enough changes in religion to verify multiple turning points. Yet from the Edict of Milan in 313AD, we come to the American Civil War in 1861, which was sparked by religion. That was  5 waves of 309.6 years. The next half cycle lined up with the peak in the government 2015.8. Muhammad (c. 570–632 AD) began preaching in 610AD, which was one cycle 309.6 years from the rise of Christianity toward a major religion, which led to the start of the persecution in 303AD. Even the English Civil War, which was Protestant v Catholic, began in 1642. That was 4.3 cycles of 309.6 from 313AD or the Edit of Milan.

There appears to be a fair number of events in religion that do line up cyclically. The turn in 2015 appears to be on target for a rise in religious tensions as well.

 

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Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
February 4, 2017 3:37 pm

I like to think of religions like an organism that competes for followers to survive. A religion is not going to be in the “survival of the fittest” if allows other religions to go on. So all religions have to say they are the “one and true religion” else the followers would have doubts if they are led in a whish-washy way that tolerates other religions. To tolerate other religions is to tolerate competition and put the religion in question if it is the “one true one”.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Flying Monkey
February 4, 2017 3:49 pm

If you don’t believe your own religion is right, why even bother? Indifferentism is illogical.

PatrioTEA
PatrioTEA
  Flying Monkey
February 4, 2017 5:42 pm

Most religions DO compete for followers by persuasion of belief, and have little trouble coexisting; but Islam is the only “religion” (NOT) that will absolutely not accept tolerance of other religions or governments (as it is.)

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
February 4, 2017 3:47 pm

My brother almost married an Englishwoman. She was an atheist. I told her that the problem in the U.K. wasn’t women wearing headscarves. It was that the English had abandoned Jesus Christ. You should have seen her eyes widen in fear as she realized she was in the presence of an actual aspiring Christian. Hilarious. I find it weird that in Europe they talk mainly about the stylistic difference between Muslims and non-Muslims. Thus the “behind the veil” stories. If someone wants to walk around in a pup tent, it’s no sweat off my balls. It’s not about the garb. The best hope for Muslims in the West is that they could be converted to Christianity. Of course Christianity is in decline, and it’s too bad, because you can’t replace something (Islam) with nothing.

Barnhardt has convinced me that “Francis” is an antipope. I can’t forward her articles to regular people, though, because they’re not used to a woman calling an entire religious hierarchy a bunch of fags and generally denigrating buggery.

flash
flash
  Iska Waran
February 5, 2017 10:08 am

True and much more. Francis the Apostate is the dagger in the back of the Catholic church.

Morkus
Morkus
February 4, 2017 4:22 pm

A few points. Constantine did not make Christianity the state religion, that was Theodosius many years later. Constantine made it legal to be a Christian while preferring to worship Sol himself. He was baptized as a Christian on his death bed.

Armstrong doesn’t give much evidence of Christianity’s decline other than to point to Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, and the current pope. Most of the growing number of Christians in the world don’t worry themselves about what those three do.

AWB
AWB
  Morkus
February 4, 2017 4:31 pm

I have to agree, organized religion is perhaps declining, because one doesn’t need a congregation with whom to worship God.

Liberals can only reconcile their support of Islam with their professed position of tolerance because they hate God, and love the world. That’s rather obvious in the mob rule we’ve been witnessing on supposed liberal campuses at Berkley and NYU. Berkley, ironically enough, was the birthplace of the Jesus movement in the 60’s.

Just because evil is rising, be it real or imagined, doesn’t mean spiritual people are declining. It only means is shaping up to be quite a fight.

PatrioTEA
PatrioTEA
  Morkus
February 4, 2017 5:48 pm

Part of Christianity’s decline is due to Muslim extremists killing them, as Christians are now the greatest group being murdered worldwide.

Also, in spite of John Brown, I don’t think the Civil War was “…sparked….” by religion. Religion was only one of many influences.

Pete
Pete
  Morkus
February 4, 2017 6:05 pm

When the Episcopalians AKA Anglicans & CofE put shaved-head lesbians in the pulpit preaching that we all must believe there were dinosaurs on Noah’s Arc, a real live 4000 year old wooden boat – well that is evidence of Christianity’s decline. Ya’ can’t let confused people preach nonsense and call it by a traditional religion’s name.

RiNS
RiNS
February 4, 2017 4:43 pm

How can one hate something when it doesn’t exist.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RiNS
February 4, 2017 5:00 pm

How can someone know something doesn’t exist?

Do you exist?

And further if you say you do would,say, an earthworm without the ability to perceive you say exist?

RiNS
RiNS
  RiNS
February 4, 2017 5:06 pm

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PatrioTEA
PatrioTEA
  RiNS
February 4, 2017 6:10 pm

???

rhs jr
rhs jr
February 4, 2017 5:07 pm

I think it declined as Cultural Communism grew but that is changing; Trump being elected and planning to restore the 1st Amendment to Churches (ie repeal of IRS 501c3) is a new beginning. The Dictatorial Catholic Church murdered millions of people (Heretics) that disagreed with their Oligarchs and splintered Christianity. A Modern Falling Away occurred due to Modern Religious Luddites refusing to accept some modern findings of Science: The Universe is about 13 billion years old, the Earth is about 5 billion years old, Life Forms do evolve; peoples understanding of the Old Testament (Tanakh) God “evolved” and it contains a few errors but from Psalms onward it is Gold; the New Testament is a Jewel Box of Gems to mankind from God although a couple rocks slipped in. When Science proves the Holy Shroud and the Sudarium are authentic; when a Natural Catastrophe strikes and the (Illuminati?) Monument topples as a Sign that God is against them; when God gives us abundant miracles and a Great Revival; and maybe Youtube etc provide a Forum, people will crowd the Churches and return to God.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 4, 2017 5:11 pm

The prophecies say that in the last days the Church will fall to false doctrine, calling good evil and evil good, calling right wrong and wrong right.

Jesus himself prophesied that many would enter into the wide and easy gate that leads to destruction and only few would choose the narrow and difficult one that leads to salvation.

You can see this happening to a rapidly increasing degree on a daily basis.

Yet your salvation remains your own responsibility (John 3:16 as well as others), no one else’s. It is you that decides the gate you enter and you that determines your eternal destiny.

While no man can see the day or the hour of the judgment, all can easily see the season from the prophecies telling of it, and I firmly believe we are entering the season as I see more and more of the prophesied events and requirements falling into place as if they were following a pre written script (which they are).

Choose this day whom you will serve and repent, you may not have a tomorrow in which to do it.

RiNS
RiNS
  Anonymous
February 4, 2017 5:23 pm

Why serve?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RiNS
February 4, 2017 5:37 pm

Because you serve a master, and God is the master of all masters.

Or you just get cast out of his house if you don’t.

You realize that was a scriptural reference, as was the rest of my post, don’t you?

PatrioTEA
PatrioTEA
  Anonymous
February 4, 2017 5:57 pm

“Anonymous’: This is a really good message. The Libs-Progs, Dems, & media are doing the first paragraph. Popular culture, hollywood, sports, TV, etc. are doing the second paragraph; giving way to the third. Only a few things yet need to fall into place before the Second Coming. I’ve been an agnostic for most of my life, but see a lot of signs of the second advent.

RiNS
RiNS
February 4, 2017 5:43 pm

Why walk the earth a Free Man only to spend an eternity a slave.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RiNS
February 4, 2017 6:27 pm

No one “walks the earth” a free man, you and I included.

You already enslave yourself to your own thinking, as if that carries any weight in eternity.

I trust my eternity to Christ, you seem to trust it to your own thinking if I understand you right.

But at least you seem to acknowledge eternity, and that means there is still hope for you in it. It is those who acknowledge nothing greater than themselves that exclude themselves from it without hope.

RiNS
RiNS
  Anonymous
February 4, 2017 7:11 pm

Why yearn to live forever?

General
General
February 4, 2017 5:48 pm

I am atheist, but I have friends of other regions.

Ironically, muslims have far more in common with conservatives then liberals.

PatrioTEA
PatrioTEA
  General
February 4, 2017 6:00 pm

No, no, no!!!

PatrioTEA
PatrioTEA
  General
February 4, 2017 6:04 pm

No, no, no!!!

BTW: how do you KNOW that there is no God? I always THOUGHT there wasn’t, but couldn’t prove it.

lmorris
lmorris
February 4, 2017 5:49 pm

it not that i don’t believe in god, just don’t trust men

Anonymous
Anonymous
  lmorris
February 4, 2017 6:35 pm

You don’t need men to believe in God, or to know him.

You simply have to honestly seek him, after Christ ascended the Holy Spirit came to men so that we can be connected (for lack of a better word) to him and know and understand his presence in Christ.

To know about God and his will for us as men we have the scriptures, and need to test everything men tell us about him against them to discern the truth.

Dixie
Dixie
February 4, 2017 5:56 pm

“You got to serve somebody.”
-Bob Dylan
“As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”
-Joshua 24:15

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2017 6:09 am

RiNS

Why do you do it? Argue with holy rollers?

Anyway, last night I had a dream … no, it was a nightmare. I dreamed that I was cast to hell for not believing in the Trinity; Edwitness, AWB and bb. The devil, who goes by the nickname Loopy, told me that I would be packing dishes into moving boxes for all of eternity. And I wept and wept and wept.

Then I woke up. Glory be!! It was just a dream!! Or, was it? I came to the conclusion that God was trying to tell me something, warning me via this goddamn fucking move I’m involved it. He works in mysterious ways.

So, exactly at 5:38AM this morning I prayed unto the Lord. I asked Jesus to save me from my sins, and also if he can help with finding more boxes. Lo and behold, I kid you not … when I went to the front door at 5:48AM, there were 4 boxes there!! OK, not a big help, but its a start. Now that I know he can provide boxes out of thin air, I can now rest assured that I am also SAVED. I have hope now. No longer do I need to trust in my own thinking. Now, Jesus thinks for me!!! Praise God, and trust in the holy Scriptures, my friend. Once I was lost, today I am found. All because of His blood.

RiNS, won’t YOU join me? I was once a worthless lost fucker just like you. But, now I’m in, pal. Repent today, before you’re sent to hell packing boxes. I’d rather that you and I recline in the bosom of the Lord in heaven. Call me at 1-800-BurnInHell and I’ll even pray the sinner’s prayer with you!

Peace 👿

PatrioTEA
PatrioTEA
  Stucky
February 6, 2017 10:58 pm

Suggest that you loose the profanity. Just clean it up a little.

Stucky
Stucky
  PatrioTEA
February 7, 2017 6:22 am

Suggest you go suck a diseased donkey dick.

RiNS
RiNS
February 5, 2017 7:32 am

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Too funny Stucky! I’ll parse the offer while eating some french toast.

In the meantime another existential question.

If value is some function of time and scarcity.
Does eternal life cheapen the one on earth?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RiNS
February 5, 2017 8:00 am

Does birth cheapen the time your life was spent in the womb?

RiNS
RiNS
  Anonymous
February 5, 2017 8:29 am

Anon..

So it gets less precious over time.
I guess that’d be wat yer sayin

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RiNS
February 5, 2017 8:46 am

Not really less precious but less of what you are in the new life.

Without it you would not be there to experience what comes afterward so it can’t really become less precious, just a smaller part of what you become.

Stucky
Stucky
  RiNS
February 5, 2017 2:12 pm

Yet once again, some of you fuckers don’t appreciate my humor.

FUCK Y’ALL! !!!

Kiss This
Kiss This
  Stucky
February 5, 2017 10:03 pm
RiNS
RiNS
February 5, 2017 9:15 am

So philosophy for you is like a Pixar movie.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
February 5, 2017 9:25 am

Surely, the fact that the earth is flat proves the existence of God.

B LEVER
B LEVER
February 7, 2017 6:44 am

Everything in this Earthly plane is in decline at the moment.