Question of the Day, Apr 12

How would the world at large change if the US and Russia were allies? Why can’t we be, outside of it hurting TPTB in the purse?


Author: Back in PA Mike

Crotchety middle aged man with a hot younger wife dead set on saving this Country.

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Anon
Anon
April 12, 2017 12:37 pm

Well, for one thing, ISIS would probably disappear overnight. Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman and the other vermin in the MIC, would most likely have to start making products that did not kill people – hey maybe a space program again….who knows. All I do know is that if we were allies, it would make more sense than what we have now. A bunch of John McLooneys running around Washington, delusionally thinking that somehow they will escape if all of this goes sideways. News flash to the crony class, mushroom clouds have a funny way of igniting rich people too.

BL
BL
April 12, 2017 12:39 pm

People need to realize that the US is in the process of trying to take over the EU oil and NG market out from under the Russians. The oil service to Europe makes up a great deal of the income of the country and Putin does what the oil oligarchs want done.

THAT is part of what the Syria fray is about as the US oil oligarchs want a pipeline through there ASAP. How does that make for peace you ask, well it fukkin doesn’t, now does it.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
April 12, 2017 12:43 pm

It would scare the piss outta’ China…and the rest of the World.

It’ll happen one day if China decides that the Sino-Soviet rift is too great

4th Turner
4th Turner
April 12, 2017 1:03 pm

TPTB would never allow it– it goes against their massive profit program as they place puts & naked shorts on Humanity during their 60 to 95+% “Culling of The ‘Useless Eaters'” while they build their “Breakaway Civilization” –they just can’t allow 2 of the biggest white & Christian nations to become allies!

Miles Long
Miles Long
April 12, 2017 1:42 pm

Interesting Saker article here. It’s a long one.

http://thesaker.is/a-multi-level-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missile-attack-on-syria-and-its-consequences/

There’s much more, but the crux of the biscuit is:

1. The Russians are afraid of war. The Americans are not.
2. The Russians are ready for war. The Americans are not.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
April 12, 2017 1:50 pm

I thought we were getting on fine with the Russians up until the time of the Sochi Olympics and the Ukraine crap. I’ve no evidence that makes me feel Russia has acted badly on any external affair and plenty that we are provoking them.
I hope the pictures of protesting military holding those anti-Syria war signs start to re-appear again.
I want us out and Assad in. He may be an asshole, but I think these people can only governed by nothing less than a total asshole.

Butthurt SJW Slayer
Butthurt SJW Slayer
April 12, 2017 2:31 pm

I firmly believe that we are moving inexorably toward a unified (in purpose) world in which the three major governments, America, China & Russia, commit to peace and prosperity for all nations.

I believe the world will become tasked with the societal enhancing work for which each is best suited. Russia: Raw materials, China: manufacturing, America: technology and coordination. Obviously, there will be overlap and inconsistencies, but I foresee a world without war, where every man has the opportunity to rise in gratification to the pinnacle of his potential. Where people understand that the strata of humanity has purpose and dignity from top to bottom.

I believe the greedy psychopaths now in charge will be defeated and caged. Pipe dream? Maybe, but being the master of my own mind, those are the thoughts I choose to think.

Butthurt SJW Slayer
Butthurt SJW Slayer
  Butthurt SJW Slayer
April 12, 2017 3:07 pm

USA+China+Russia = World Peace??(Bix Weir)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSIF60giF_s

mangledman
mangledman
April 12, 2017 2:37 pm

How about a joint venture between Colt and kalishnakov to arm the dang peasants, then the peasants can control their own governments without all the infrastructure damage.
I thought we were getting along with Russia we have their troops in Colorado and Alaska. Hmm, maybe they are here to plant the flag when the civil war is over. Does anybody else remember Vladimir saying our butt would be kicked by 17?? We haven’t been getting along since Uranium one or what. Vlad threatened “o” with seriousness in 13 wasn’t it.

rhs jr
rhs jr
April 12, 2017 3:19 pm

It would have been wonderful if Trump could have filled Reagan’s shoes. But alas, Trump is a spoiled super rich grab-happy schmuck with to many NeoCon associates; he has a proclivity to shoot off his mouth and bully people, even some good people; he needs a good attitude adjustment and to fire all the NeoCons. Mr Putin is a likeable smart pragmatic rock and doesn’t like taking shit. Houston, we have a problem.

Vic
Vic
  rhs jr
April 13, 2017 3:42 am

According to “Voltaire,” the Syria bombing was ruse between U.S., Russia and Syria.

Trump, Russia, Syria working together, Attack was a Ruse?
http://www.voltairenet.org/article195904.html

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
April 12, 2017 4:04 pm

i do not like the idea of allies and treaties, yet i like the idea of working partnerships. i would like to believe the general public in both countries would agree. the sanctions are punitive, foolish in my mind. we behave like bullies, it is expensive and very shortsighted.

AC
AC
April 12, 2017 4:38 pm

The neocons would be literally ripping their hair out, which would be fun to watch.

It might be worth it just to see that.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
April 12, 2017 6:53 pm

Trump seriously fucked up by bowing to the neocons. What he SHOULD have done is tell the Dems to go screw themselves and remove all the sanctions on the Russians, then roll back ALL of Obama’s EO’s, especially the loosening of classified intelligence between the agencies.
This latest shit with Assad and the gassing is downright stupid.
He had the opportunity to strengthen relations with Russia and he blew it, IMO. We’re tangling on a precipice right now, between being seriously bankrupt and Trump’s goal to “strengthen the military”…..with what? We should be trying to make peace, not war, to MAGA!

Butthurt SJW Slayer
Butthurt SJW Slayer
  Westcoaster
April 12, 2017 7:07 pm

I don’t think we in the public are privy to enough info on the whole matter to make intelligent judgements about what’s really going on. The Syria thing seems to be just tilting at windmills to throw the hounds off the trail. Tillerson meeting with Putin for two hours today should tell you there is far more at play than meets the eye.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
April 12, 2017 7:36 pm

We the United States & Russia can and should have a strong alliance based on mutual respect and we should have each other’s back world wide . In my life I have travleded a bit and encountered many people most understand the disconnect between Americans and our government full of whiney shits that sit around with one thumb in their collective mouths and the other up their collective asses and in their collective confusion to never be held responsible or accountable for shit THEY SWITCH THUMBS !
Most Russians I meet a case of beer some Bourbon and Vodka some steaks on the grill you politicians go have your fucking war some place else ! If you need us we will let your dumb shit thumb suckers know ! Hey Igor looks like we gotta make a beer run let Donald drive he doesnt drink , does your cousin have any Cubans left ?

Dave
Dave
April 12, 2017 10:11 pm

We can’t be allies with Russia. They are mostly white.

Ed
Ed
  Dave
April 12, 2017 10:56 pm

That’s OK, Dave. My best friend is white.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
April 12, 2017 11:35 pm

We are still mostly a white nation if you count only American citizens instead of the way our government does thanks to our former idiot president Obama . Remember he wanted to change the face of America and now …

Vic
Vic
April 13, 2017 3:43 am

How would peace between the U.S. and Russia affect TBP’s bottom line?