Where’s My Immigration Prediction Model?

Guest Post by Scott Adams

If scientists can make climate prediction models that are reliable (or so they tell us), why can’t they do the same with Muslim immigration predictions?

Predicting the average temperature on Earth ten years from now is hard. There are too many variables. But predicting the outcome of immigration policies probably involves far fewer variables. All we need to do is look at other countries that experienced lots of Muslim immigration and subtract out the countries that reversed the trend with military force, because I assume we wouldn’t see any of that in the United States, especially if the immigrants are legal.

A good immigration prediction model would find the “tipping point” where the percentage of Islamic population nearly guarantees the entire country will become Muslim in the long run. Is that 10% or 65%? I have no idea.

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Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. Birth rates are high, followers are motivated, and the system is hard to leave once you are in it. If any country in the world allowed unlimited immigration forever, that country would likely become Islamic in the long run, although it might take a few hundred years. But no country allows unlimited immigration, so that isn’t a realistic scenario.

A realistic scenario is what the United States and much of Europe are experiencing. We have to decide the rate and type of immigration that will be good for the country. But if we don’t know where the tipping point is, how can we make informed decisions?

My provocative thought for today is that the pro-immigration people and the anti-immigration people are actually on the same side and don’t know it because no one has made an immigration prediction model. For this claim, I will exclude the extremes on both sides, so subtract out the true open-border globalist on the left and the pure racists on the right. We’ll focus on the sensible middle that wants some degree of immigration while maintaining the good parts of the existing culture. But how does either side decide how much is the right amount of Muslim immigration, and how much is too much? Where’s my immigration prediction model?

Suppose I said to you that 20% Islamic population will guarantee that eventually – perhaps in a hundred years or more – the country will have a dominant Islamic culture, with all that implies for women and the LGBTQ community.

I don’t know if having 20% Muslim citizens is anywhere near the tipping point. But consider that gays represent perhaps 10% of the country, and that was enough to change laws. Consider that the United States is strongly pro-Israel while the Jewish population of the United States is under 2%. The size of the minority seems less important than their level of motivation. Muslims appear to be motivated.

The weird thing about the immigration issue is that the only people with coherent opinions are the ones on the extremes. The racists on the right are repugnant, but their opinions are coherent, given their preferences and priorities. Likewise, the open-border globalists have an approach that you might find impractical and dangerous, but it is a coherent philosophy, and easy to understand.

The people who don’t have coherent opinions on Muslim immigration are the so-called reasonable people in the middle. It is nonsense to argue about whether our Muslim immigration policies are good or bad without the benefit of knowing where the tipping point is, if such a thing even exists. My guess is that the pro-immigration people and the anti-immigration people would agree we shouldn’t go past the tipping point. But if neither side knows where the tipping point is, you can’t call the opinion on either side sensible.

So that’s where we are on this issue: The extremists on both sides are repugnant and/or stupid. But they are the only ones with policy preferences that are rational – based on their priorities of course, not yours. The so-called sensible people in the middle (including me) have opinions that are effectively nonsense because we don’t know where the tipping point is.

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kokoda - the most deplorable
kokoda - the most deplorable
May 8, 2017 4:12 pm

“…so subtract out the true open-border globalist on the left and the pure racists on the right.”

Why would a closed border nationalist be a ‘racist? There other reasons for wanting closed borders, e.g., economics.

Barney
Barney
  kokoda - the most deplorable
May 8, 2017 6:27 pm

Im a racist cause I dont want my grand daughters sold as sex slaves at the local flea market

Neil Dunn
Neil Dunn
May 8, 2017 4:18 pm

This is one example of what is expected when Muslims are “this” % of a population. If this is valid,
some estimate of the “tipping point” should be obtainable.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/muslim-population-grows-what-can-happen-society-maha-hamdan

starfcker
starfcker
  Neil Dunn
May 8, 2017 4:58 pm

Little known fact. Muslims invented the condom, originally made out of goat intestine. British soldiers later perfected the design, by removing it from the goat first.

kokoda - the most deplorable
kokoda - the most deplorable
  starfcker
May 8, 2017 6:15 pm

star….a laffer

travis
travis
May 8, 2017 4:33 pm

Welllllllll, some groups never assimilate, so should not be allowed to imigrate here at all. Let me further note that the negroes we imported some time back havent exactly assimilated and learned to feed and care for themselves. Yet. Maaayyyybbeeeee, we should roll with the proven track record and only allow immigrants who assimilate fully. Like germans.

TakeBackOurRepublic
TakeBackOurRepublic
May 8, 2017 4:46 pm

What a ridiculous PC article. I’ve got news for you, Scott Adams. There IS justification for wanting to stop Islam and it’s called HISTORY and it is a prediction model. Do you not remember the Crusades? If it wasn’t for those “bad Christians”, most of us wouldn’t be here to discuss why we shouldn’t let that period in history repeat.
http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2013/05/22/a-timeline-of-islamic-expansion-in-the-dark-ages/

kokoda - the most deplorable
kokoda - the most deplorable
May 8, 2017 4:52 pm

The ‘Tipping Point’ is when Muslim demographics reach 10%. After that, it is Shariah all the way.

xrugger
xrugger
May 8, 2017 6:56 pm

The “tipping point” has been reached when guys like Dilbert here can spout off about the “reasonable middle” as if there can be such a position with regard the barbarism which is Islam. If anyone has even a reasonably detailed working knowledge of Islam (murderous cult), its founder (murdering, rapist, pedophile), and history (murder, rape, pillage, conquest, slavery), then they should come to the rational conclusion that the reasonable rate and type of Muslim immigration to be desired by any Western nation is none and…none!

Oh my Scott!! How ever will we know what the right amount of Islamic immigration is without the proper studies? Look, asshole, there is no “right amount” of Muslim immigration. Study Islamic history you buffoon and open your eyes to the truth about these barbarians. Maybe do a little cursory research into the terms jihad, hijrah, taqiyya, etc. before you open your yap about where the tipping point might be with regard to cultural suicide. For God’s sake, watch the news once in a while!

Moron

All Muslims in the U.S. should be given a choice: Disavow Mohammed while standing in a vat of pigs blood and pissing on the Quran (make sure the process is videotaped and filed in a central data base), or be forcibly deported (men, women, and children) and abandoned on some stretch of North African beach.

All Islamic teaching materials of any kind in U.S. should be incinerated. All mosques and madrasas should be burned to the ground or bulldozed and the ground soaked in pigs blood and sown with salt. Maybe mix in some Jack Daniels for good measure.

The practice of Islam in any form or iteration should be banned, references to it excised from all American educational material at any level. Islam must be eradicated to the greatest extent possible within American borders and it should be guarded against as if it were an infectious, deadly disease.

If we don’t do it to them, you can be damned sure they’ll eventually do it to us, but then that little realization doesn’t come to a guy like Scott Adams until he finds himself kneeling beside the raped bodies of his wife and kids just before his head is sawed off.

There’s your immigration model dumbass.

KaD
KaD
May 8, 2017 6:57 pm

The proper percentage of Muslims in the US is ZERO. American has no need for Muslims or Islam. Most of the followers of the world’s worst religion are near retarded on the IQ scale and illiterate in their OWN language. They have NOTHING to offer us.

doug
doug
May 8, 2017 7:26 pm

Didn’t we already have a complete takeover already by having too much immigration by anyone who doesn’t assimilate? Let me think now, did the Tribe assimilate or only pretend?

Hollow man
Hollow man
May 8, 2017 10:25 pm

We will be in hyperinflation before the Muslims take over. Then they can take us the rest of the way back to the stone age

Not Sure
Not Sure
May 8, 2017 11:53 pm

Is Scott Adams own sub consciousness working against him? Is his search for an non answer by asking a non question a non starter? Does he unconsciously desire to be a Muslim Immigrant by not siding with the sicko extremists on either end of the political spectrum? Why write an article that begins by a question of defining a tipping point and ending the article by acknowledging the the tipping point is undefinable? Why did I waste my time reading the article in the first place?

VegasBob
VegasBob
May 9, 2017 12:51 am

First of all, Islam and democracy are fundamentally incompatible. In the long run, the two cannot coexist. While most Muslims may not hold fanatical views, we never see the non-fanatics condemning the brutal or tyrannical excesses of their fanatical fringe. That indicates that most Muslims implicitly agree with their extremist fringe.

Secondly, all it takes is a critical mass of about 4% of the population until various groups begin to agitate for special privileges or exceptions to general laws. So it is very easy to predict that when Muslims reach about 4% of the US population, they will agitate for sharia law, laws to subjugate women, etc. etc. etc. And, as we saw with gay marriage, they will be successful, despite centuries of established law and social tradition.

If we haven’t destroyed ourselves already, ask yourself if we really want to commit national suicide? If so, all we have to do is just admit millions of Muslims. That will guarantee the destruction of the country.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
May 9, 2017 6:18 am

I can never tell when he’s being serious and when he’s trolling.

middle aged mad gnome
middle aged mad gnome
May 9, 2017 6:37 am

Many of the comments were better than the article. I wish we could just admit that we should be at war with the ideology known as radical Islam. So how to wage war against an ideology? That seems to be a difficult question.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  middle aged mad gnome
May 9, 2017 7:06 am

Wars are never fought against ideologies, religions, nations, states or movements, they are fought against other men.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
May 9, 2017 11:44 am

Singapore has decided the tipping point is 15%. They won’t allow Muslims to immigrate, and they won’t allow Muslims to marry non-Muslims, so that Islam won’t spread further. Not sure if they have a birthrate discrepancy and how they deal with that…

Mike Murray
Mike Murray
May 9, 2017 10:49 pm

Wasting time looking for the “tipping point” ensures that when we find it, it will be in the rear view mirror.

mangledman
mangledman
May 10, 2017 1:16 pm

For the sake of argument, I see the need for a tipping point, but that sucker passed a long time ago. When we put one in the white house, it is far worse than we imagined. We have them in gubmint all over by now. The big question is how to get them out. They spout liberal bull, and get elected. Little o scattered them through all gubmint agencies, and several remain.