Guest Post by The Lonely Libertarian
I was having a discussion with Jesse in DC about what could be the coming Civil War 2.0. Not the 2nd American Revolution because it’s our own government that’s out of control and our own citizens that seek to enslave or kill us. He stated concern over the fact that their side is so much better organized than ours. Recent experience with someone who turned an attempt to organize the Patriot community into building his own mini-kingdom and slush fund has taught me that we are pretty much a group of lone wolves not easily organized.
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Kind of like trying to herd kittens on crack. But when the occasion warrants, like when one of us is in trouble and needs help, the Patriots come on fast and furious. Nothing can stop us. Why? Well, President Trump touched on it in his address to the Polish people. We have a little something called “will to survive.” We have the strength of conviction to fight for what we believe is good and true, fight for our inalienable rights, fight for this amazing social and government experiment called a Constitutional Republic. What does the other side have?
Well, money and organization. That’s at the top. Way, way, way at the top. At the tippy top far above the blood and smoke of the battlefield. They are the politicians, the rich socialists (ever wonder how a socialist got rich?), the professors, the “elite.” They have no intention of getting their hands dirty, that’s why they have all those kids they’ve been grooming for the last few generations. Their soldiers in the field, their Antifa Warriors.
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Winning. Seriously, if you’ve lived your entire life not being allowed to feel the sting of defeat, how will you handle it when you lose a skirmish? When you can’t call time out because things aren’t going your way? When you can’t quit, take your ball and go home to mom’s basement? The Powers in charge of Antifa haven’t thought this through. They’ve raised generations full of quitters, crybabies, and whiners. They had to have safe places after President Trump won an election. Do they really think the people with the money are going to come save their asses when it gets dicey? George Soros doesn’t give a shit, Bill Gates can’t shoot, and Obama’s on another vacay.
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Leadership. In addition to always winning, these kids have had it planted in their soft little heads that they’re too special to be anywhere but at the top. They’ve all been groomed to be chiefs with 100K salaries and corner offices. When they realize they aren’t going to be Chiefs, but lowly Injuns, things will start falling apart. You think someone with crippling debt who refuses to take any job available because it’s beneath them is going to be happy as a foot soldier getting shot at?
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Dependency. The Soldiers of Antifa have never been independent. I’m not sure they even know what independence means. They went from mom and dad’s support to Uncle Sam’s support by way of colleges and/or social support programs. Someone has always paid their bills to the point that they expect someone else to pay the bills. Right now, they have a sugar daddy in Soros, but they don’t understand how tenuous that support is. Soros isn’t going to pledge his life, fortune and sacred honor to topple the US government, he’s not that devoted. If either his life or fortune is ever threatened, he’ll pull out faster than a Catholic with 12 kids. And let’s face it, he’s a little short on sacred honor. Once the money is pulled, the Antifa movement will dissipate.
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Preparation. Yeah, they’re organized, but they ain’t exactly prepared for actual war. Throwing Molotov cocktails, rocks and right hooks, spinning sticks like a basement ninja, these aren’t the battle skills they’re going to need to take on Patriots. How many of you have been to the range or out in some field shooting? This week? This month? Today? Most of them have never held a pistol, never served in the military, never had to zero a rifle on the run. Most of them have never had to run. Now don’t get cocky. I’m better than most, but nowhere near as good as I need to be. The eyesight and headache issues have kept me off the range for the last six months. Dry fire drills just aren’t the same. Stay prepared my friends.
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Cohesion. Last but not least, cohesion. The Left has been pushing identity politics for generations, pitting one special interest group against another. Now they think they can organize the split special groups into one force against the Patriots. Uh-huh, sure. Let’s see how that works out. They’re already at each other’s throats. The BLM crashed the LGBTQ Rainbow parades. The BLM and Muslims hate the LGBTQ. The Feminists hate, well, pretty much everybody; they’re attacking PETA over bikini-clad models. Nobody can stand the Fems. And the illegals don’t give a shit as long as they don’t get deported. One thing about the Patriots. We may not like each other, we may not always agree, but if we know we’re all fighting to protect the Constitution, we can put our petty differences aside. And that’s what Antifa is really attacking: The Constitution.
These young white radicals know they can get away with their shit for now .They can hide behind the Constitution (which they hate ) and have government protection. They remind me of blacks who make threats knowing they can hide behind the police.The very people they supposedly hate. They have no idea of what they are sowing or the unintended consequences of their actions.
A Sig is next to my bed too.
H & K next to my bed, with a Glock in the living room
I don’t know if you are the same aniemouse that responded to me yesterday? Anyhow if you are I wasn’t talking about fighting anti-fagistas in the street. I was thinking of groups of 2-4 people. mostly working behind the scenes. Slashing tires, sugaring gas tanks when they leave their meet up areas, video recording them for later. And many other things even better than that.
You said ‘police and law enforcement agencies are more than a match for us.’ Sorry try again, we won’t be butting heads with law enforcement, and they will have their hands full securing the big cities and keeping a lid on protests. Thats if they show up at all. Many may stay home and protect their family
Why do all these pundits believe there will be a knock-down, drag-out, all-in street-brawl-esque gang fight a la West Side Story?
Portraying the Antifa commies as some kind of modern day army gives their creators much more credit than deserved, and lends to the bread and circuses narrative of those not into sports.
If you are not building homogeneous communities in your area, starting with neighbors and providing the majority of the resources you will need in the hard times ahead, you are behind the curve.
Positing feel-good predictions about minor distractions that are high-vis/low-impact to most is just spinning wheels, wasting time, and will not keep you alive.
Time to tend the garden and ask the neighbor to go shooting again, have a nice day.
Even in the big cities antifa is out of their depth. A large group of childish agitators, with some hard core criminal anarchists thrown in is no match for a small determined group of experienced, skilled patriots. Even when outnumbered 10-1. Do these people think we are stupid enough to play by the queens rules. I think not. My neighbors and I will be waiting for them when they decide to try this nonsense far away from moms basement.
Like Mn steel said time to get back to the garden. And tighten up your shot group.
Except there are no small determined group of experienced, skilled patriots.
And if any arise, the will find out that the police and other LE agencies are easily more than a match for them.
As has been demonstrated several times ranging from the Branch Davidians to the Bundy Ranch standoff and Wildlife Refuge takeover (note that Finicum did say he’d rather die than be arrested and the FBI accepted his terms).
this comment is the only one thinking to what happens in a breakdown. There is no unity…no standing army. Even during the Revolution and Civil Wars there were many bands that would seek to make off with what they could while everything was ongoing. When the paychecks stop flowing, and for the most part they would…then the police become an armed group of thugs that already have been trained to consider ALL Americans as a threat.
If you havent read One Second After, you probably should. Not because of the EMP, but because it tells the story of a societal breakdown and the schisms of the masses. Once again I would draw attention to Venezuela. Even in the muck and shit that they have been through, they still cannot organize into one mass populace that could take with numbers. Nope… they starve and scratch by as individuals. Some folks watch too many Hollywood movies.
You guys looking to get some good range practice should give USPSA a shot. I just got into it last year, and have been thinking about writing a short essay for those thinking about getting into it. Whats involved, bare minimum gear, rules, etiquite, etc and submitting it to Admin. Do I just type it up as an email, or what? Its a great sport, and its much better for training purposes than shooting holes in paper at the range.
Type it up any way you wish and send to admins email address on the right side of the page.
WP ES! Anon is IndenturedServant.
It will go both ways, and entirely new ways.
Many will fall in the first week, as chaos and crossfires take their toll. Those who can flee to quieter zones are advised to, as long as they bring some skills, trade goods and work ethic with them they should do OK, at least for a while.
Those who really ARE Rambo will make it through to the second round.
Those who are medically helpless, mentally ill and / or totally unprepared will probably die first.
Second round, maybe a week or so after TSHTF: food stocks start to run low for those who prepared a little, and the hungry-desperate try their luck scavenging or breaking in. Many of those will die here: breaking in to an “empty” house for supplies that has a human badger burrowed in for real will almost certainly fail (see, Attacking a Fortified and Well-defended Position). Most of the drug-addicted will fall here. Most of the defenders should succeed, at least until roving gangs of rioters appear. The Alamo fell, after all.
I can imagine lots of variants from there out, from Kunstler’s _The Long Emergency_ to sci-fi dystopian dioramas. Whether or not the Feds can maintain some kind of order and control in some areas, probably won’t matter in the long run. They can hardly keep the cap on Chicago as it is now! All we can really do is prepare to the best of our ability, keep a low profile locally and hold on.
“about what could be the coming Civil War 2.0. Not the 2nd American Revolution because it’s our own government that’s out of control and our own citizens that seek to enslave or kill us.”
I think you mean CW 3.0. The American Revolutionary War was a civil war … secession and rebellion.
You make a distinction that does not exist.