Fun with IQ: Deep Thought

Guest Post by Fred Reed

Once upon a time in America the ruling  dwarves, mostly psychologists, sociologists, academics, and suchlike riffraff,  held that all people were equal in everything, that men and women were identical, as were all races, ethnic groups, and cultures. Criticizing any of this could, and did, lead to firing, ostracism, and having to suffer crowds of mental defectives waving placards.

Resistance arose, the resisters calling themselves Race Realists or adherents of the Human-Biodiversity movement, HBD. These were brave people who tried to deal in observation, measurement, and reality–at first. They noticed that groups who were supposed to be equal weren’t.  Actually, most people had probably noticed the same things, these being obvious, but the Race Realists actually said so. A great wrath fell upon them.

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Two things happened. First, the intellectual equivalent of gas-station louts merged online with Race Realists. The louts had no interest in human biodiversity except insofar as it could be used to establish the inferiority of groups they didn’t like. These included all non-whites. When various Asian peoples proved awkwardly to be smarter than whites, the louts said, well, OK, but they can’t innovate.

Overlapping the louts and Race Realists in a complex Venn diagrams were ideological, and therefore slightly pathological, conservatives with their characteristic tribal hostility toward anyone different and nearby.

Second, the respectable Race Realists, under constant criticism as racists, frauds, and pseudoscientists–which they were not–became as rigidly ideological as their opponents. Herd-think settled in. Surprisingly, scientists proved as susceptible to herd-think as everyone else, and equally unaware of it. The whole cluster could no longer examine its ideas or tolerate questions.

Their chief beliefs are that everything came about through Darwinian evolution, probably to include sunspots, that everything is genetic in origin (presumably including their politics, a thought they overlook), and that IQ tests provide an infallible measure of intelligence.

These views came to constitute as hermetic a bubble as anything the Catholic Church or Communist Party ever came up with. And so, like their enemies the mental defectives with the placards, they fell into simply shouting down doubters as a form of CDA (Cognitive Dissonance Avoidance).

They became wonderfully like their enemies. In 1925, in the famous Scopes Monkey Trial, fundamentalist Christians tried to prevent the mention of evolution in the public schools. Recently in in court in Philadelphia, the evolutionists successfully outlawed the mention of Christian doctrine in the public schools. The psychologies were identical. Curiously, both faiths were tripartite. The Christians had Father, Son, and Holy, Ghost, and the opposition had Darwin,  IQ, and Genetics.

Their thinking, well, wasn’t. If you argued to a physicist that the acceleration of gravity changed with the seasons, he would either ignore you or ask for evidence. He would not endeavor to have you fired or hounded in the literature. These things have happened to those doubting the sanctity of Darwin.

Permit me to give a few examples of Cognitive Dissonance Avoidance in the IQ racket . I will try to maintain the somber pretentiousness expected in such matters, but I apologize in advance in case I fall off the wagon.

Let us start here:

IQ 83. Meso-American Indians, more specifically purebred Mexican Indians, are said to have a mean IQ of 83. This is observationally plausible. Today they seem intellectually dormant.

IQ 84. Colombia, mean  IQ 84, runs modern cities, airlines, telecommunications, and other trappings of modernity.

IQ 85. American blacks. They are thought in the hbd world to be unable to do things that Colombians do routinely, yet they have a higher IQ than Colombians..

IQ 86. Ireland was long said by IQists to have this intelligence, odd in a white European nation, but was later promoted to 100, with some authorities averaging the two to get 93.

It seems curious that such similar IQs would produce such disparate results.

Then we have this datum on the Meso-American Indians:

By around 300 BCE, these Indians had invented both writing and a positional-exponential number system complete with zero, probably the best in the world at the time. As linguists universally acknowledge, their writing  was  real writing, not proto-writing or funny scratches on bark. Writing has been invented perhaps three times in human history. Further, they did this with a quite small population.

Anybody but an IQist would think this remarkable and worthy of thought. Smart then, dumb now.Why and how did this happen? What mechanism can account for it? Is something wrong with the paradigm?

From the foregoing observations we conclude:

(1) A mean IQ of 83 is sufficient to invent writing and exponential-positional number systems.

This is not a theorem but an observation. They did it, so they must have been able to do it. The only ways to avoid this conclusion are either to accept that something is wrong with the numbers–an IQist would rather submit to bastinado–or to to posit powerful evolutionary pressures favoring stupidity following 1521, the last year when these two systems were widely used.

The latter expedient carries a whiff of desperation. Perhaps someone will explain this rush toward enstupidation. (Preferably without appealing to presumed evolutionary pressures not subject to measurement or even detection acting upon genes of presumed but unestablished existence to produce presumed results not correlatable with the selective pressures. This is science?)

Now, if a particular mean IQ is sufficient to do certain things, then a higher mean IQ must perforce be sufficient to do those same things. Thus we have:

(2) American blacks, mean IQ 85, are intelligent enough to invent writing and exponential-positional number systems.

The IQist position, that the Indians are stupid (as perhaps they are) leads to fascination conclusions.  We have:

Either (a) inventing sophisticated number systems does not require mathematical talent, or (b) mathematical talent does not require much intelligence.

Which?

Since, as established above, American blacks are capable of epochal mathematical leaps forward, their failure to make such leaps in the United States must be due to something other than low intelligence. Among the possibilities are culture, discrimination, racism, white privilege, transphobia, fat shaming, institutional racism, Islamophobia, low expectations, poverty. and something about LGBT.

Thus we see that IQ theory confirms the claims of Social Justice Warriors, a surprising but scientifically derived result.

But at this point I must retract my suggestion that the genetically determined Meso-American IQ cannot have fallen sharply. Observation demonstrates the contrary. Here we have a side-by-side comparison of mean IQs of nations, the first measured in taken in 2002 and and the second in 2006. One sees rapid changes in IQ over these four years. (The cognoscenti of IQ will attribute sudden rises of BMFE, Burst Mode Flynn Effect, but this is a very technical matter.)

For example, Peru has fallen from 90 to 85, and Mexico has risen from 87 to 90. I find the case of Mexico particularly of note since I live there–here. With its genetically determined IQ rising at three points every four years, it follows that in the next century it may rise by 75 points unless something is done to halt this ominous trend.

We conclude:

A nation’s mean IQ can rise or fall by at least five points in four years.

This seems peculiar behavior for a genetically determined quantity. The most probable explanation is very rapid Punctuated Equilibrium, which we in psychometry refer to as an FGL (Frantic Genetic Lunge). Another explanation, which we will carefully avoid, is that IQ varies semi-independently of intelligence, and thus is an unreliable measure.

Perish forfend.

Next: There is said to be a positive correlation between a country’s mean IQ and its degree of economic prosperity. This is plausible and we will here accept it as true. Confirmatory examples abound: The Japanese are highly intelligent and highly prosperous; Equatorial Guineans are highly not intelligent and highly not prosperous. QED.

Thus:

Since IQ correlates positively with national prosperity, then, as prosperity rises, so must IQ.

Because genetic IQ cannot increase so rapidly in even the most lubricious of nations, we would almost have to suspect that prosperity raises IQ, not the other way around. Or else that IQ is only sometimes and unpredictably linked to intelligence. Both of these being unacceptable results, we will ignore them. CDA.

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TC
TC
November 25, 2017 9:01 am

Interesting argument, but I’m not sure, Fred. How do you explain what has happened in Haiti, what, 3 times now? Maybe a more plausible explanation is that most populations aren’t perfectly homogeneous and immigration (and miscegenation) has the greatest affect on average IQ.

steve
steve
November 25, 2017 9:01 am

Below are photos of Saint Basil’s Cathedral built in 1551 vs typical sub Saharan dwelling. Any argument on IQ differences here?
comment image built in 1551

https://www.123rf.com/photo_77585597_blur-in-lesotho-malealea-street-village-near-courtyard-and-coultivation-field.html?term=african%2Bhuts&vti=ljqgoqlg5exvwj6trn-1-20

javelin
javelin
November 25, 2017 9:37 am

A fun article to read through but the basic premise is seriously flawed.
An Example that correlates to the articles reasoning::::: The average IQ in the United States is a mean of 100 ( as rough approximation)–yet advances in aerospace technologies, neuroscience, genetics, satellite/computer technologies–these things should not have been intellectually possible by a bunch of 100 IQ “run of the mills.’

The answer is simple–there will always be the occasional outlier at the far high end of the curve who introduces ideas and technologies, Being of a higher IQ, he manages to make his ideas usable and/or simplified to allow for the common man to utilize.

I can use a cell phone–I can’t build one. I could ride a rocket to space but I could not build one…..et etc

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 25, 2017 9:40 am

Average IQ in Mexico may be rising since their lower IQ segment is no longer in Mexico to lower that average, they are now in the United States and I expect to see a decline beginning here soon as a result.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Anonymous
November 25, 2017 11:58 am

Let me help you unnerstan’ Anonymous: Fred is saying that IQ is [possibly] more a result of economics than of race or native intelligence.

So, again, it is possible you are correct that emigrants raised their homeland’s average IQ just by leaving since it’s true that many folks who came here were poor.

That has been the case in the majority of immigrants, except for the German Nazi scientists we smuggled in after WW2.

Miles Long
Miles Long
November 25, 2017 10:52 am

After reading this on Fred’s site Thursday evening it’s clear that either Fred’s eyes have gotten much worse or he’s heavy into the Padre Kino this week. I got the start of a headache trying to figure out some of the sentences so quit reading.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Miles Long
November 25, 2017 12:00 pm

You are one stupid, somebitch, Miley. I suggest you leave the country and quit bringing the USA, USA, USA IQ numbers down.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  EL Coyote
November 25, 2017 8:38 pm

As a white man talking to a coyote… blow me.

I believe sumbitch may be the proper alternate spelling. Blow me twice.

Rdawg
Rdawg
November 25, 2017 11:09 am

Agreed, an interesting article. I see a flaw in the assumption that we know for a fact that Meso-American Indian IQ was 83. We do not.

I would be curious if it’s possible that prosperity could lower overall IQ for a population. For example, if it is relatively easy to survive and thrive, competition is less fierce, and enstupidation ensues.

Stucky
Stucky
November 25, 2017 11:09 am

I was about to rip into Fred.

Then I saw Austria was #12.

Or, 40 spots higher than the Irish.

I love this article!!

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Stucky
November 25, 2017 12:07 pm

It’s always the Nazi sympathizers that point to the medieval churches as proof of superiority. They conveniently ignore the apex of architectural achievement; the Taj Mahal.

Ever notice the White House imitated that marvel of beauty and not the ornate German attempt at greatness? Whose got the bigger intellectual dick now, bitches?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  EL Coyote
November 25, 2017 3:52 pm

There’s only one Taj Mahal, there are thousands of medieval churches.

Which means they built one and quit while we built thousands and kept at it.

Stucky
Stucky
  EL Coyote
November 25, 2017 4:09 pm

You’re nuts.

I’ve been to the Taj Mahal. One of the crapper casinos you’ll find.

What else you got?

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Stucky
November 25, 2017 4:14 pm

Come to Vegas, the Mandalay will surely blow you away.

Maggie
Maggie
  EL Coyote
November 26, 2017 12:47 pm

Your ass, I mean intellect, is showing again.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
November 25, 2017 1:31 pm

Whatever Fred. Lets cut to the quick. Are you going to walk through Compton at night? Or buy a home in Detroit(they’re going for $100)? Have a late night meal in Memphis? Take the 16th St Shuttle in Denver after 10pm? Catch a Metro ride in DC almost any time but rush hour? How about walk around St Croix after dark?

Blaming “culture, discrimination, racism, white privilege, transphobia, fat shaming, institutional racism, Islamophobia, low expectations, poverty …” just doesn’t mean shit to me. I avoid blacks because I have seen first hand, uncountable times, every time there are blacks involved, there are problems.

Riddle me this, how come __________(fill in your own race) came here, got their shit together and have done well but blacks, here for 100s of years, are committing violent crime 27x the rate of whites.

Yeah, take your discrimination and shove it.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  MMinLamesa
November 25, 2017 4:25 pm

Mimilamesa, I must have missed the part about discrimination. You must have added your own coloration. He commented that far from being a blank slate, humans have innate differences.

Yet those differences in intelligence are not measurable by IQ tests. He admits the race realists claims that certain groups have higher IQ’s. However, IQ, like past performance, is no guarantee of future results.

In fact, it has not resulted in any innovations from our higher IQ black brothers. Fred said this. So where did you get the idea he was crying discrimination?

Did you fucking read the article? Your wasting your high IQ if your not going to read for understanding.

You remind me of Chris Rock’s quip about Kim Kardashian; “All that ass, still can’t dance.”

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  EL Coyote
November 26, 2017 3:23 am

I read the column. I read your condescending post. I don’t care how or why you will paint reality over. I. Don’t. Care. Call it a banana, I don’t care. You can ignore whats really happening until you get a brick to your head.

Can you dig it?

Did you read my post? Are you gonna take a walk on the wild side?

yeah, thought so.

Maggie
Maggie
  MMinLamesa
November 26, 2017 12:52 pm

Of course there is a problem with the measurement system. Like any standardized test, it can be gamed or written with bias. If you don’t know what a meho is, then you will miss that question and be called a dunce.

Credit
Credit
November 25, 2017 2:11 pm

argument’s flaw is assumption that the “average” meso-american must be capable of higher math, while even low IQ populations have genius level representation in their midst. a genius can invent and influence the dummies surrounding him, in other words.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Credit
November 25, 2017 4:27 pm

Credit, sad to say, your no credit to your race.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
November 25, 2017 6:25 pm

In my life time this IQ debate on race continues to be a quagmire plaguing American society . In a country where all men are to be considered equal under the law we continue to hit these little bumps in the road that make total equality impossible . Stating the obvious is meet with violent attacks verbally and sanctioned or censored . The comment is “You can’t say that” and now those in positions of indoctrinating the youthful skulls of mush now include “You cannot think that” ! Regardless of what your eyes and ears tell you , one must ignore facts and results of failed efforts to produce total equality by dumbing down those of higher IQ and abilities to the lowest common denominator !
Look at every large city in America and who built it who fleed it and why ? Then look what Group is in charge of these once great cities ! Then look at the average IQ of those groups . You will find the majority will have IQ levels below 100 and many below 90 .
Trillions pissed away on feel good head start education programs money and job preferences handed out to equalize past descrimantory practices . Give the black applicants 10 to 20 points for walking thru the door .
Now those in charge can barely maintain let alone excell so it must be racissem it could not be low ability due to low IQ heaven forbid we all are not equally intelligent that would not be fair . Like life it is not fair at all . Get over it get used to it and move on !
Like an old race track comment , you gotta run what you brung

digitalpennmedia
digitalpennmedia
November 25, 2017 6:58 pm

people simply dont understand…

an IQ of 83 isnt high enough to form reading and writing. In fact it isnt high enough to actually engineer or fabricate most modern amenities. It is high enough to be taught how to use systems that are already in place as long as it has been made “user friendly”.

Looking through history and saying this group developed this and this did this and so on…with low IQs is generally garbage in and of itself given that the same groups that try to hide the savages is also the same entity that has had CONTROL over history and all the printing and reprinting of all the books the world over.

It has become well documented that the Inca and Mayan civilizations were a joke and at best took over from the Olmecs who it is believed got much of their tech from a previous civilization. A similar circumstance comes up in egypt when DNA evidence has shown pharaohs with celtic genetic markers and again in japan as evidence surfaces that a huge component of a caucasian race of settlers that actually started the first samurais belief and code.

Fact is using history or tech to “prove” something is crap and crap “science”. Testing and observation is how the scientific method always has been and should be, but in recent decades has been thrown out for quick methods and shoddy studies.

Lord Dude
Lord Dude
  digitalpennmedia
November 26, 2017 5:05 pm

“people simply don’t understand…”

Zara had a chart here showing the gradations of capabilities for each group, I fall into the moron category. A lot of white folks would also fall into that category if not for the fact they claim the accomplishments of Einstein, Tesla and Pascal.

Maggie
Maggie
November 25, 2017 7:05 pm

I haven’t finished the article nor read comments. I just wanted to put this here before I forgot my train of thought was leaving.

“Surprisingly, scientists proved as susceptible to herd-think as everyone else, and equally unaware of it. The whole cluster could no longer examine its ideas or tolerate questions.” I LOVED this phrasing. Can anyone else tell me why?

I am probably about midway through. Have just gotten to the IQ discussion re Columbia and Ireland. Here’s what I think, without going further. If I read the rest and have time to edit this, I might.

Just because a population has a “mean” IQ of 80 doesn’t mean their IQ levels are not suffering due to environmental inputs. Our genetic code is not the FINAL code at all. Genes may or may not express due to environmental inputs over which a great deal of control might be possible. I personally think if necessity forced people to attend to their intellectual inputs better (learning to PAY ATTENTION in stead of follow impulse), IQ levels would increase in many subsets.

Brian
Brian
November 25, 2017 7:23 pm

Why is Libya @ #41 and also @ #115? Which is it?

People nearer to the equator have more abundant year round food and less need of planning.
The opposite is true of those living nearer to the poles.

At the higher latitudes, the stupid starve. Nearer to the equator, the stupid spawn.

Llpoh
Llpoh
November 25, 2017 7:28 pm

Average IQ people of any society do not add jack shit to the overall development of the society. One million people with IQs of 85 do not add the societal value of a single person with an IQ of 150. It is the outliers that develop the culture. It is the Leonardos, the Newtons, the Einsteins that create.

Some populations have very low IQs but surprisingly many outliers. But generally, the higher the average, the greater the percentage of super smart folks. It is the super smart that matter most in development of things.

You think it an accident that Bill Gates, Jobs, etc., are/were outliers? All the 85 IQ people in the world working in perfect unison could not do what Gates did. It is simply beyond their ability, individually or as members of a group.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Llpoh
November 26, 2017 2:24 am

“All the 85 IQ people in the world working in perfect unison could not do what Gates did.”

And yet they have the nerve to claim that because Gates is white and there white, his achievement is there achievement. I am not shitting you. This kind of logic is rampant on TBP lately.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  EL Coyote
November 26, 2017 3:28 am

seriously???

they’re for your first goof
their for your second

Maybe that kind of logic is rampant on TBP lately but Lord dude.

EL Coyote Lord Dude
EL Coyote Lord Dude
  MMinLamesa
November 26, 2017 3:48 pm

Mimster, You are a moran, here I thought only a woman could be so obtuse, it turns out I was wrong. If you had bothered to read the title, it says ‘Fun with IQ..’ shit, it couldn’t be more plain if he had said – be ready to laugh.

Fred fired off a few zingers, sadly, they went over your head. Too bad. Your embarrassing all the white pride folks that complain they are unfairly portrayed in commercials as the dumb inbred.

Ordinarily, I would have expected to see BW ream your lily white ass but now I must admit BW only deals with higher class morans. I’m left to deal with the dullards. Admin is not paying me enough, I swear.

I read your 3 sentence tract without having to move my lips. If I may say so, it’s a little light. I was not convinced, so solly. Feel free to shed a little more light, this place could use your boundless wisdom.

Maggie
Maggie
  EL Coyote Lord Dude
November 26, 2017 5:17 pm

I have been asked to offer you an end of year bonus. Do you want venison or rabbit?

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Maggie
November 26, 2017 10:39 pm

Venison, yum!