The un-Americans

Guest Post by The Zman

One of the things that has always been true about America is that you never question someone’s patriotism unless you have very strong evidence. Part of this is due to the immigrant back story of most Americans, but a bigger part is the fragmented nature of the country. Patriotism is the glue that holds the American Nations together. Different groups from different regions stick together because of a common national creed. This also works across class lines. The rich, the middle and the poor are equally patriotic.

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One result of this has been a desire by leaders to not look like fops. Politicians, business men, even generals, have always done the every-man act in order to seem like one of the folks.We don’t have a hereditary class, but we do have rich people. Rather than a rigid class system, the rich make sure to let the lower classes know they have the same duty to the country as everyone else. This soul and soil nationalism, rather than blood and soil, is what binds the social classes and the regional cultures together. At least it used too.

That’s certainly not the way things are now. Our cultural and political leaders go out of their way to signal their hostility to the lower classes. In fact, it has become so common for our betters to sneer at us, they are competing with one another to prove just how much they hate Americans. Of course, they mean white Americans. The swarthy recent imports are the best, but the old stock, well, they are the worst, according to the people claiming to represent us. It really is remarkable just how much they detest us.

A commenter on Steve Sailer’s blog asked, in response to this David Brooks column, “Has there ever been another time in American history when American elites felt this comfortable expressing such open contempt and hatred for their fellow citizens?” It is a good question. Certainly elites from some sections have hated the people of other sections. Virginia gentry, prior to the Civil War, thought the goobers from West Virginia were worst than Indians. New Englanders hate the South. Everyone hates Cleveland.

What we’re seeing today is different. It is a public hatred directed at the fundamental nature of America, and by extension, Americans. Here’s an example from Bill Kristol in response to an immigration segment on Fox News. What Kristol is arguing is that Americans, as in current citizens, have no right to discuss immigration policy. It is immoral for us to say anything about it. On the other hand, non-Americans, people not currently citizens, have a moral duty to cross the border and settle in your neighborhood.

Kristol is hardly alone. It is not strictly a Jewish thing either. Lyndsey Graham is not Jewish, as far as anyone knows. He no longer thinks America should exist. He denies that the current citizens have any right to exist whatsoever. Granted, he is a shrieking hysteric, prone to hyperbole, but there’s only one way to interpret what he is saying. Being an American is no longer permissible. In fact, the underlying rationale of the open borders side is that the current Americans are just no good and need to be replaced.

Now, this turn in elite opinion has been a long time coming. In the Clinton years, suddenly comfortable Boomers started buying McMansions and pretending they were too good for the hoi polloi in flyover country. Progressive politics moved away from the bread and butter economic issues and onto esoteric identity politics. This snottiness was most apparent when the Left went to war on WalMart. Once Progressives stopped pretending to like normal Americans, the so-called Conservatives joined them.

Elites have always had a disdain for the lower classes. This has been true at all times and all places. Elites have also always had a duty to look out for the interests of the lower classes. The ruling class may not have liked the people over whom they ruled, but they were duty bound to look out for them and keep their opinions to themselves. What’s happening in modern America is the ruling class is rejecting their duty to their fellow citizen, because they have contempt for the very notion that we are their fellow citizens.

There really is no example from history where the ruling class revolted and declared war on its subjects. That’s where we are today in America. When Trump gave his State of the Union, most of the people in the building hated him because he holds onto the old fashioned belief that the American government should serve the American people. As far as they are concerned, he’s not just a class traitor, he is insane. After all, why would anyone think the people in charge have any responsibility to the rabble?

It used to be that “un-American” meant counter to the American system and the American creed.The people charged with policing that were the people in charge. Today, being un-American is a badge of honor for the people in charge. A US Congressman actually fled the building when the crowd started in with a patriotic chant during Trump’s address to Congress. You can be sure he was the toast of the city, a hero to his coevals in the political class. Bizarre as it sounds, America is a country now ruled by un-Americans.

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Dutchman
Dutchman
February 1, 2018 3:33 pm

It has been a brilliant ploy by the leftists: They have gotten us citizens in a dialog where we are having to defend what is ours. It’s our country, and we’ll call the shots.

I’m always amused by the protesters – Dreamers, illegals – they have these ‘angry signs’. How about they protest by having signs that read: “We love the US and Please let us stay”.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
February 1, 2018 3:43 pm

Here is an idea. Let the elites leave and join people from other countries instead. They just want a new flock of sheeple that are easier to expolit and who are unaware of their criminality, but the thing is that foreigners are more aware of their criminality than Americans. They are deluding themselves! The foreigners from the Middle-East, Far-East, Africa, and Latin America have all been subjected to and have witnessed the criminality of the American elite in their own countries. In fact, they often come here with the if you can’t beat them join them philosophy, after America has ravaged their own nation. I am hard pressed to find a more uninformed group of people than American citizens. I hold the education system, media, politicians, and elite accountable for this.

America Is Doomed Because the Mentally Deranged and Morally Deficient Are In Control – Andrea Iravani

America Is Doomed Because the Mentally Deranged and Morally Deficient Are In Control

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Andrea Iravani
February 1, 2018 4:14 pm

I hold the education system, media, politicians, and elite accountable for this.

BINGO – Give this lady a cigar!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Dutchman
February 1, 2018 4:31 pm

Dutch, you know you are encouraging a free-thinker, we can’t have that in this post-democratic blog. The original settlers find her comments inane, delusional and ill-informed. Besides, Iravani just sounds like an illegal immigrant. Maybe she should learn TBP customs first so she can assimilate. Then we might, just might issue her a green card.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Anonymous
February 1, 2018 5:22 pm

They’re not all inane. Powering all American transportation with gas from landfills is a stroke of genius.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
February 1, 2018 6:54 pm

I haven’t been keeping up, could you make a short list of her genius ideas? TIA

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Anonymous
February 2, 2018 2:21 am

I’m a 5th generation American citizen. I enjoy speaking with people from other countries. I have learned a great deal from them. It’s always interesting to hear a different perspective. When you’re stuck in an echo chamber, everything sounds the same.

BL
BL
  Dutchman
February 1, 2018 5:51 pm

Andrea hits the nail on the head. Americans are terribly UNinformed and believe the dribble they watch on the MSM is reality. YET, they believe fervently that they are justified in degrading the Constitution and the country. Some here have not a civil word for this country which is sad and depressing . That needs to stop or they need to move, yet if any of us call them out we are attacked….why is that?

True the free shit army has brought condemnation upon themselves but they alone are not the whole of America. BTW, nothing has been done in the last year to stop the flow of free shit and no one seems to care. This time was supposed to be different, the elites are far richer and the FSA is still unproductive, while those in the rat race are getting it up the ass working to foot the bill. That also needs to stop as the people strip mining the wealth are the wealthy class and the welfare class and ALL they do is sneer and complain……f@#k ’em.

Maggie
Maggie
  Andrea Iravani
February 1, 2018 5:40 pm

Trainable, after all?

A summary of an opinion with a link to a much longer article. Without three additional comments following.

Maggie
Maggie
  Maggie
February 1, 2018 6:15 pm

Progress or not.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Maggie
February 1, 2018 6:57 pm

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. – Andrea Iravani

Maggie
Maggie
  Anonymous
February 1, 2018 7:00 pm

Noted.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Anonymous
February 2, 2018 3:20 pm

Err…wasn’t that Gandhi?

PeakMaster
PeakMaster
February 1, 2018 4:06 pm

Saw an entire gaggle of un Americans sitting on their hands Tuesday night. The Congressional Black caucus front and center.

When’s the last time they actually represented black Americans?
What has John Lewis done for his constituents besides soaked them for every tax dollar he can spend on himself.

javelin
javelin
  PeakMaster
February 1, 2018 8:25 pm

ARTICLE of The Day I found on the web–a must read for all TBPers…………

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/269181/trump-divides-americans-and-un-americans-daniel-greenfield

RHS Jr
RHS Jr
February 1, 2018 4:18 pm

The congress critters that took a knee and will not stand up for anything good about America must be kicked out this Nov18!

Maggie
Maggie
  RHS Jr
February 1, 2018 5:51 pm

Every time I see congress critters inked,
Another swamp creature begins to sink.

Best I can do after returning from dentist to have a gold crown not two years old removed to fill the small decay left underneath by a certain Derik Ridpath in Choctaw, OK. We pay cash for our dental work, almost always have since leaving the USAF, so we also take care of our teeth. My crown was recommended by Ridpath since the USAF had drilled and refilled a cavity to the point there was barely any there there. I agreed to the gold crown since, 1. I happened to have dental coverage at my workplace at the time and, 2. Gold was down quite a bit from its highs and we’d made a bit on the way up.

So, it was somewhat disconcerting to discover that not only did I have to have a crown replaced, I also have some other issue with a filling my Oklahoma dentist replaced and so will be paying to have that done again, as well.

So, if anyone knows Ridpath? Be sure to tell him I wish he’d stopped talking to his techs about how much money he hoped to make the following year if he added oral surgery to his list of available services (horror of horrors do they just let dentists take a weekend course and ADD that?). Because two of the services he performed for me were crapwork. If it was a car repair, it would probably be under warranty.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Maggie
February 1, 2018 6:52 pm

I can relate, friend. I had a paper route as a kid. Liked candy bars, & bought many w/ paper route money. Didn’t have the smart discipline to brush the chops often enough as a lad.

Mouth full of silver. Unfortunately, it was all amalgams, and not .9999 pure.
After many years, the fillings eventually broke down, and my DDS, who is pretty good, began a slow process to start doing crowns. I think I have 6 or 8 of them.

When one comes loose, and you don’t get in to get it re-cemented pronto, decay will build up fast. My Doc has bitched at me for letting that happen, so, I’m revealing some unwise past mistakes here.
Then he had to drill out the crown base tooth stub, retake a pattern mold, replace the old crown with a new one, and set me up with a temp during the wait.

Nowadays, they can design them and get them made w pretty quick turn around.
Now, too, I try to take way better care of what I have left.
I can still tear into a steak OK, so, so far, so good.
But, damn, even back 15-20 years ago, when all that was happening, I remember a crown costing $400 bucks. Now, it’s up to $800 at least, probably a grand. I had no insurance then.

Heard or saw this phrase once: “Ignore your teeth. They’ll go away.”

Periodontal (gum) disease is a big problem for anybody who hates to floss often enough.
Can lead to infections, mandible loss, and other issues, too.
One friend had a brother who died from an infection in his head due to that.
Another friend was on pain meds for a different ailment, and unknowingly was clenching his chops at night while he slept. When the pain in his mouth got bad, he went in to see the Dentist, and was horrified to learn all of his teeth were loose. The Doc had to pull all but 4, and those came out a year later. Had to get fitted for dentures at age 55. Sad.
Funny though, when we caught him on the hockey rink without his dentures in.
He looked like a white Moms Mabley…older than he was, w/ nothing but gums.

Just think. If the Gulch becomes a reality, as the good ol’ USA slides into a scenario like Stephen King’s “The Stand”, maybe Kaiser Suzie will make his way to the Ozarks.
Rumor has it that he has some experience.
You could put him up out in the barn with a chair, some drills, a spit bucket, and a water hose, and he could provide services to the crowd, in lieu of payment for room & board.
Maybe he likes grilled rabbit.
Kidding.
Good Luck w/ whatever solution you find.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Anonymous
February 2, 2018 10:08 am

Your “silver” fillings are 50% mercury. Mercury vapor can be measured in your mouth after mastication if you have amalgam restorations. I have seen small fillings on the cheek side of a tooth cause inflammation where the filling touches the cheek. There are deleterious effects from them but by and large ‘silver’ filling have been a god send for restoration of diseased teeth. The bad effects of dental amalgams are far less than the poisonous effects of sugar and dental decay if you ask me. Mercury ingestion occurs from eating seafood (swordfish, tuna and other marine species concentrate it in their flesh) and from industrial pollution. It falls from the air from being burned with industrial wastes and seepage into the water supplies. I cringe when I think how careless dentists used to be with it. Tons have entered the environment as pollution.

I was fortunate to have a dental mentor who was among the first to stop using amalgam fillings back in the early 80’s. There were many quackish dentists who preyed on the public advocating mercury fillings as extremely toxic. The alternative was gold – gold/porcelain or 24 carat gold flakes condensed into the preparation or lost wax castings of gold were the accepted alternative. At 10x the price of a amalgam. The use of “white” fillings in posterior/chewing teeth did not take off until after the turn of this century. To do a white filling required far greater skill than stuffing a mixture of zinc, copper, silver and mercury into a wet wiggling hole.

In my judgement most dentists lacked skills to do white fillings successfully. Fortunately dental materials have advanced to make a white filling superior to the best amalgam fillings. The technique was too difficult early on with the lack of proper engineering of the materials available. I went amalgam free in the 80’s and was subject to scathing criticism of the dental dinosaurs in academia. All my restorations carried a 5 year warranty. And I redid thousands of white fillings under warranty before materials caught up. Eventually white composite fillings became more durable than an amalgam. I have had white fillings placed by a dental assistant that lasted decades.

My first foray into online blogging was with Excellence in Dentistry (first called The Profitable Dentist but renamed because of the dirty word profit). Some on line there would call me the father of white fillings. The dental division of 3M recognized me for my contributions and advancement of the techniques necessary for proper composite fillings. The sale of their product Z-100 increased many fold after my techniques were disclosed online.

One of the reasons I became a dentist was because my childhood dentist. I figured if he could make a living hurting people like he did me, then I could be a roaring success by being gentle and kind.

My favorite dental story anecdote is about my first gold crown (yes, I am a gypsy with a gold capped tooth). It was circa 1968. I ate a piece of hard Christmas candy and cracked a tooth that had a large silver filling in it. One of the corners broke off. I went to Dr. Ponce in San Bernardino and he told me it needed a gold crown. And it would cost $80!!! I am sure my parents had never spent $80 on me for anything. I called mom and she said ok. I still have that gold crown. It came off once and was cemented back on. So the cost has been $1.60 a year since then. The same gold crown today from a top tier dentist might cost $2000.

Derik Ridpath
Derik Ridpath
  Maggie
February 1, 2018 7:04 pm

Nice spread you got there. I’m going to love it. I am dialing my lawyer right now. Don’t bother deleting your libel, I have made certified copies.

unit472/
unit472/
February 1, 2018 4:28 pm

We’ve come a long way in the last 50 years. My father’s office got Fortune magazine and I used to study the Fortune 500 industrial companies the way some adolescents studied the Baseball standings. Corporations were still basically national. Only a few American companies had significant foreign subsidiaries. GM and Ford had European subsidiaries and IBM was global but in world of fixed exchange rates those overseas operations were basically seperate business operations. The CEO of GM, e.g., could not claim GM had increased earnings because the value of the dollar went down and thus corporate earnings grew because its German subsidiary, Opel, sales were in Dmarks. IBM couldn’t pay taxes in Ireland on its sales in Japan.

Now big companies are ‘multinational’ and their accountants use various ruses developed by corporate lobbyists to shift their production and revenues around the world to game their earnings and tax liability. Money owes no allegiance and this means our elites have none either.

Maple Curtain
Maple Curtain
February 1, 2018 4:41 pm

The Myth of Meritocracy

A load of mediocraties run off and buy credentials that will enable them to be a part of the technocratic elite serving the interests of the mega-wealthy.

The sociopathic ladder-climber will always prosper in a technocratic system designed to cater to the super-wealthy.

But, the credentials purchased by the technocrats do not make them intelligent – they know that they are inferior and do not contribute to the commonweal.

That is the fount of the hatred for their own – or, rather, these useless narcissistic sociopaths have only ever had one other system in which they have been able to lord it over their fellow citizens – that was Bolshie Russia.

Now, the administrative state across the West has morphed into the Bolshie system, only with a much less cohesive vision.

Since all politics is female and females demand that the state do all things for all people and solve all problems, real or perceived, the contemporary West is Bolshie heaven.

So, ya, our world is run by feckless narcissistic sociopaths who hate their own kind – they will always try to destroy their own societies.

Repeal the 19th Amendment or watch it burn…the rest is just idle chatter.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Maple Curtain
February 2, 2018 3:24 pm

Absolutely…But we are ruled by “connected” mediocrities, others need not apply.

Unconnected
Unconnected
February 1, 2018 4:48 pm

This is the map Z-man linked in his opening paragraph under “American Nations”:

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And, here are the FEMA regions:

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Kind of similar, no? Coincidence?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Unconnected
February 1, 2018 6:27 pm

The Missouri map is wrong if it is supposed to represent red counties in the state.

https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/missouri/

Only four counties went blue and they are not connected. They are many miles apart. They are toast:}

Oh and Kansas is wrong too! 3 blue counties.

https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/kansas/

Umm, Nebraska, too. Where the fuck did he get his stupid map from?
https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/nebraska/

Carl
Carl
  Mary Christine
February 1, 2018 7:54 pm

The political blue and red separations do not apply to that map. The colors are there only for contrast purposes.

Mark
Mark
  Unconnected
February 1, 2018 9:09 pm

American Nations was an amazing book, I learned a lot, but the author was obviously a Liberal and his disdain for the Deep South came through in his writing.

A historian should be a referee and never, ever take political/cultural sides.

However, no matter his prejudiced…the South is rising again!

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
February 1, 2018 6:59 pm

“One result of this has been a desire by leaders to not look like fops.”

The first time I heard the word fop spoken out loud was when my father told me he had worked with Ian Fleming while hanging out in the UK in the 50’s. I was sort of celebrity struck and asked what was he like. Dad said he was a bit of a fop. The only pretense my father ever showed was wearing a tightly woven wool-felt, London made flat cap – newsboy style.

They also told dad that he was an exile from the River Spey. I still have the Scotch whiskey bottle of Spey Royal they gave to him. Maternally I am from the Isle of Wight and other fishing villages on the English coast. That makes me part of the Scotch-Irish scum still slumming here in coastal redneck riviera with deep ties to the Irish Duke of Wellington. Napoleon ain’t nothing.

When I learned in anatomy class about the milk line and supernumerary nipples I identified a remnant nipple on myself, my father told me they noted his more prominent one when they did a physical on him in limey land. (see The Man with the Golden Gun = Francisco Scaramanga) (there is a lovely woman in Grand Cayman with two aureolas on her left breast. If you knew susie like I know susie…)

Also he said Ian teased him because he ordered red wine with fish at dinner one night.

starfcker
starfcker
February 1, 2018 9:46 pm

Congrats, Z. You’re the quote of the day over on Ace of Spades HQ.

Quote of The Day

It’s one of the many things libertarians don’t understand about society. Government does not grow because it is attempting to meet a need. Government grows because it can. Government never needs a reason.
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Maggie
Maggie
  starfcker
February 1, 2018 11:44 pm

I think this is an interesting expose by Joe diGenova. Have a bit of time to “peer review”

Edit: now that I’ve listened/watched a bit more, I think it is astounding… I think the Qanon fans should watch it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=649&v=RuhI7zeanQg

AC
AC
February 1, 2018 11:33 pm

I would be amazed if politically useful pictures and/or videos of Lindsay Graham doing career-ending things aren’t in a government vault in Israel somewhere.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
February 2, 2018 10:23 am

#120db I found this video on FB yesterday. It is a lesson to be learned. We all share the concerns of the daughters of Europa.