Guest Post by Patrick J. Buchanan
“Enough is enough!” “This can’t go on!” “This has to stop!”
These were among the comments that came through the blizzard of commentary after the massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Broward County. We have heard these words before.
Unfortunately, such atrocities are not going to stop. For the ingredients that produce such slaughters are present and abundant in American society.
And what can stop a man full of hate, who has ceased to care about his life and is willing to end it, from getting a weapon in a country of 300 million guns and killing as many as he can in a public place before the police arrive?
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An act of “absolute pure evil,” said Gov. Rick Scott, of the atrocity that took 17 lives and left a dozen more wounded. And evil is the right word.
While this massacre may be a product of mental illness, it is surely a product of moral depravity. For this was premeditated and plotted, done in copycat style to the mass killings to which this country has become all too accustomed.
Nikolas Cruz thought this through. He knew it was Valentine’s Day. He brought his fully loaded AR-15 with extra magazines and smoke grenades to the school that had expelled him. He set off a fire alarm, knowing it would bring students rushing into crowded halls where they would be easy to kill. He then escaped by mixing in with fleeing students.
The first ingredient then was an icy indifference toward human life and a willingness to slaughter former fellow students to deliver payback for whatever it was Cruz believed had been done to him at Douglas High.
In his case, the conscience was dead, or was buried beneath hatred, rage or resentment at those succeeding where he had failed. He had been rejected, cast aside, expelled. This would be his revenge, and it would be something for Douglas High and the nation to see — and never forget.
Indeed, it seems a common denominator of the atrocities to which we have been witness in recent years is that the perpetrators are nobodies who wish to die as somebodies.
If a sense of grievance against those perceived to have injured them is the goad that drives misfits like Cruz to mass murder, the magnet that draws them to it is infamy. Infamy is their shortcut to immortality.
From the killings in Columbine to Dylann Roof’s murder of black parishioners at the Charleston Church, from the Pulse nightclub massacre in Orlando to the slaughter of first-graders in Newtown, to Las Vegas last October where Stephen Paddock, firing from an upper floor of the Mandalay Bay, shot dead 58 people and wounded hundreds at a country music festival — these atrocities enter the social and cultural history of the nation. And those who carry them out achieve a recognition few Americans ever know. Charles Whitman, shooting 47 people from that Texas tower in 1966, is the original model.
Evil has its own hierarchy of rewards. Perhaps the most famous man of the 20th century was Hitler, with Stalin and Mao among his leading rivals.
Some of these individuals who seek to “go out” this way take their own lives when the responders arrive, or they commit “suicide by cop” and end their lives in a shootout. Others, Cruz among them, prefer to star in court, so the world can see who they are. And the commentators and TV cameras will again give them what they crave: massive publicity.
And we can’t change this. As soon as the story broke, the cameras came running, and we watched another staging of the familiar drama — the patrol cars, cops in body armor, ambulances, students running in panic or walking in line, talking TV heads demanding to know why the cowards in Congress won’t vote to outlaw AR-15s.
Yet, among the reasons gun-owners prize the AR-15 is that, not only in movies and TV shows is it the hero’s — and the villain’s — weapon of choice, but in real life, these are the kinds of rifles carried by the America’s most-admired warriors.
They are the modern version of muskets over the fireplace.
Another factor helps to explain what happened Wednesday: We are a formerly Christian society in an advanced state of decomposition.
Nikolas Cruz was a product of broken families. He was adopted. Both adoptive parents had died. Where did he get his ideas of right and wrong, good and evil? Before the Death of God and repeal of the Ten Commandments, in those dark old days, the 1950s, atrocities common now were almost nonexistent.
One imagines Nikolas sitting alone, watching coverage of the Las Vegas shooting, and thinking, “Why not? What have I got to lose? If this life is so miserable and unlikely to get better, why not go out, spectacularly, like that? If I did, they would remember who I was and what I did for the rest of their lives.”
And, so, regrettably, we shall.
“While this massacre may be a product of mental illness, it is surely a product of moral depravity.”
Add psychiatric drugs.
Don’t leave those out of the picture.
Also figure in that moral depravity is the official religion of the State and is deliberately taught in public schools along with atheism (no consequences) to keep any Christian or other moral influence out of them.
Maybe it’s about time we have a genuine public discussion of this, one that doesn’t pretend there is some other cause involved and those things aren’t related at all. One that really and genuinely addresses the moral breakdown in every aspect it is being expressed in out country today, no part of it is separate from another as they are all part of the whole of it.
In the meantime, maybe we should have a psychiatric drug registry the same way we have a sex offender registry, one that is publicly available, to protect the public from they effects they have on people. And a prohibition on having guns for the people using them, a lot more likelihood of problems from people on those drugs than would come from for, say, someone having a technical regulatory felony on their record.
But, being realistic, that discussion isn’t going to happen and those actions aren’t going to take place. The whole leftist driven morality, maybe we should say immorality, we practice today is an absolute denial of personal responsibility for our actions. A placing of blame on external circumstances and materialistic causes of our behavior to pretend we are actually innocent and blameless for them.
But it won’t be that way on Judgment day, think about that when you decide to do something, there is no escape from personal accountability on that day no matter what someone may want you to believe to the contrary.
“In the meantime, maybe we should have a psychiatric drug registry the same way we have a sex offender registry, one that is publicly available.”
Oh, really? Yet another Government List tracking citizens? What could go wrong with that? As if people with psychological problems need even more shit added to their plate of woes.
That could soon result in the same situation found in the old Soviet Union where everyone who didn’t confirm to the status quo was labeled mentally ill and sent to the Gulag. Gotta love those government lists!
Shit like this happens and people have this immediate knee-jerk reaction equating mental illness with violence Lock ’em all up! Protect us!!!
That is a myth.
“Over a third of the public think people with a mental health problem are likely to be violent – in fact people with severe mental illnesses are more likely to be victims, rather than perpetrators, of violent crime. The majority of violent crimes and homicides are committed by people who do not have mental health problems.”
“WASHINGTON — In a study of crimes committed by people with serious mental disorders, only 7.5 percent were directly related to symptoms of mental illness, “.
https://www.time-to-change.org.uk/media-centre/responsible-reporting/violence-mental-health-problems
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/04/mental-illness-crime.aspx
Better to have school and other shootings than have a list available of very dangerous people to help prevent them getting firearms and attacking the community from defending against them.
Along with the suicide, domestic violence, and all sorts of other dangerous behaviour associated with psychiatric drugs that are kept out of public mention.
At least that is what I get from your post.
But maybe you’re right, people shouldn’t have the right to know they may be in danger from someone, it causes stress and all that sort of stuff.
When you buy a gun you must fill out paperwork for the NICS check- it is- allegedly- the BATF background review of the records associated with the purchaser. I don’t have so much as a misdemeanor on my record and I am an honorably discharged combat vet so I know firearms and I got held up for 2 weeks the last time I bought a rifle, a .22 Cricket for my daughter. No reason was ever given.
We are expected to believe that an 18 year old on psychotropic medication under psychiatric care- they keep records for that, right?-who was interviewed by the FBI for describing himself as a “professional school shooter” was able to pass a NICS check?
If so, what’s the purpose? Why have something that allows a Mack truck like this kid to drive through the loopholes of a federally mandated “Gun Free Zone”? From one federal disaster to another, all of it signed, sealed and delivered by your tax dollars.
Listen, you can’t stop random acts of violence any more than you can a tornado, but you have to be some kind of dimwit to ignore the warnings and evil to craft a society compelled to live in the path of destruction while stealing money from those people to fund it.
There was no reason to suspect anything was wrong that might deny his legally purchasing the firearm.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5398625/Demon-voices-school-gunman-attack-cops-called-39-times.html
When I was 14 years old I purchased a 16 gauge shotgun for less than 20 dollars. I had to show a form that I had taken a hunter safety class at the school. I was one of the last kids in 10th grade to have my own gun. There were several at home but I wanted my own. I didn’t know anyone who didn’t have access to guns. No murders, manslaughters, aggravated assualts or suicides. The closest to a problem, one wise ass got shot in the buttock with a 22 short. Little damage, no medical intervention or call to the sherrif. We kept it secret even his parents didn’t know. A couple of years ago, I met his sister and spilled the beans , she had no idea.
Dagnabbit! Ya caught me. Yes, I am totally in favor of school shootings! I am totally against keeping track of bad people!
I knew I wouldn’t be able to fool everyone. Nice catch.
You also make death threats on the internet and have been investigated by the police, no wonder you don’t like lists of dangerous people to keep an eye on.
And he murders small furry animals. Don’t forget that part.
Fact: A disturbing number of perpetrators of school shootings and similar mass murders in our modern era were either on – or just recently coming off of – psychiatric medications. A few of the most high-profile examples, out of many others, include:
-Columbine mass-killer Eric Harris was taking Luvox – like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor and many others, a modern and widely prescribed type of antidepressant drug called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs. Harris and fellow student Dylan Klebold went on a hellish school shooting rampage in 1999 during which they killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 24 others before turning their guns on themselves. Luvox manufacturer Solvay Pharmaceuticals concedes that during short-term controlled clinical trials, 4 percent of children and youth taking Luvox – that’s one in 25 – developed mania, a dangerous and violence-prone mental derangement characterized by extreme excitement and delusion.
-Patrick Purdy went on a schoolyard shooting rampage in Stockton, California, in 1989, which became the catalyst for the original legislative frenzy to ban “semiautomatic assault weapons” in California and the nation. The 25-year-old Purdy, who murdered five children and wounded 30, had been on Amitriptyline, an antidepressant, as well as the antipsychotic drug Thorazine.
-Kip Kinkel, 15, murdered his parents in 1998 and the next day went to his school, Thurston High in Springfield, Oregon, and opened fire on his classmates, killing two and wounding 22 others. He had been prescribed both Prozac and Ritalin.
-In 1988, 31-year-old Laurie Dann went on a shooting rampage in a second-grade classroom in Winnetka, Illinois, killing one child and wounding six. She had been taking the antidepressant Anafranil as well as Lithium, long used to treat mania.
-In Paducah, Kentucky, in late 1997, 14-year-old Michael Carneal, son of a prominent attorney, traveled to Heath High School and started shooting students in a prayer meeting taking place in the school’s lobby, killing three and leaving another paralyzed. Carneal reportedly was on Ritalin.
-In 2005, 16-year-old Jeff Weise, living on Minnesota’s Red Lake Indian Reservation, shot and killed nine people and wounded five others before killing himself. Weise had been taking Prozac.
-In another famous case, 47-year-old Joseph T. Wesbecker, just a month after he began taking Prozac in 1989, shot 20 workers at Standard Gravure Corp. in Louisville, Kentucky, killing nine. Prozac-maker Eli Lilly later settled a lawsuit brought by survivors.
-Kurt Danysh, 18, shot his own father to death in 1996, a little more than two weeks after starting on Prozac. Danysh’s description of own his mental-emotional state at the time of the murder is chilling: “I didn’t realize I did it until after it was done,” Danysh said. “This might sound weird, but it felt like I had no control of what I was doing, like I was left there just holding a gun.”
-John Hinckley, age 25, took four Valium two hours before shooting and almost killing President Ronald Reagan in 1981. In the assassination attempt, Hinckley also wounded press secretary James Brady, Secret Service agent Timothy McCarthy and policeman Thomas Delahanty.
-Andrea Yates, in one of the most heartrending crimes in modern history, drowned all five of her children – aged 7 years down to 6 months – in a bathtub. Insisting inner voices commanded her to kill her children, she had become increasingly psychotic over the course of several years. At her 2006 murder re-trial (after a 2002 guilty verdict was overturned on appeal), Yates’ longtime friend Debbie Holmes testified: “She asked me if I thought Satan could read her mind and if I believed in demon possession.” And Dr. George Ringholz, after evaluating Yates for two days, recounted an experience she had after the birth of her first child: “What she described was feeling a presence … Satan … telling her to take a knife and stab her son Noah,” Ringholz said, adding that Yates’ delusion at the time of the bathtub murders was not only that she had to kill her children to save them, but that Satan had entered her and that she had to be executed in order to kill Satan.Yates had been taking the antidepressant Effexor. In November 2005, more than four years after Yates drowned her children, Effexor manufacturer Wyeth Pharmaceuticals quietly added “homicidal ideation” to the drug’s list of “rare adverse events.” The Medical Accountability Network, a private nonprofit focused on medical ethics issues, publicly criticized Wyeth, saying Effexor’s “homicidal ideation” risk wasn’t well publicized and that Wyeth failed to send letters to doctors or issue warning labels announcing the change.And what exactly does “rare” mean in the phrase “rare adverse events”? The FDA defines it as occurring in less than one in 1,000 people. But since that same year 19.2 million prescriptions for Effexor were filled in the U.S., statistically that means thousands of Americans might experience “homicidal ideation” – murderous thoughts – as a result of taking just this one brand of antidepressant drug. Effexor is Wyeth’s best-selling drug, by the way, which in one recent year brought in over $3 billion in sales, accounting for almost a fifth of the company’s annual revenues.
– One more case is instructive, that of 12-year-old Christopher Pittman, who struggled in court to explain why he murdered his grandparents, who had provided the only love and stability he’d ever known in his turbulent life. “When I was lying in my bed that night,” he testified, “I couldn’t sleep because my voice in my head kept echoing through my mind telling me to kill them.” Christopher had been angry with his grandfather, who had disciplined him earlier that day for hurting another student during a fight on the school bus. So later that night, he shot both of his grandparents in the head with a .410 shotgun as they slept and then burned down their South Carolina home, where he had lived with them. “I got up, got the gun, and I went upstairs and I pulled the trigger,” he recalled. “Through the whole thing, it was like watching your favorite TV show. You know what is going to happen, but you can’t do anything to stop it.” Pittman’s lawyers would later argue that the boy had been a victim of “involuntary intoxication,” since his doctors had him taking the antidepressants Paxil and Zoloft just prior to the murders.
Paxil-TWPaxil’s known “adverse drug reactions” – according to the drug’s FDA-approved label – include “mania,” “insomnia,” “anxiety,” “agitation,” “confusion,” “amnesia,” “depression,” “paranoid reaction,” “psychosis,” “hostility,” “delirium,” “hallucinations,” “abnormal thinking,” “depersonalization” and “lack of emotion,” among others. The preceding examples are only a few of the best-known offenders who had been taking prescribed psychiatric drugs before committing their violent crimes – there are many others.
You listed 11 mentally ill people who murdered. I think there are about 15000 – 20000 murders annually in the USA. I’m betting most of them by “normal” people.
1. A government list of people with psychological issues would be very very long.
— Big Pharma owns a multi billion dollar depression industry … I’m guessing way more than half of Americans have, or are taking, happy joy joy meds.
— The DSM guide of mental illness is about TWO INCHES thick …. basically saying EVERY American had mental issues of some sort …. including you, and me.
2. Has the Sexual Predator list had any effect on reducing sex crime? I doubt it. A list of mentally ill will likewise accomplish anything positive.
3. We’re talking about the GOVERNMENT!
— When have they ever done anything that works?
— Do you not see the enormous potential (I think, likelihood) that the government will use that info against everyone — mentally ill and normal alike — to control, manipulate, and enslave us?
4. Are the American people so bereft of other ideas that all we have as a solution for our Saaaaaafty from Daaaanger is a government compiled and controlled list? Really? There are no other solutions?
About those 15,000 – 20,000 murders annually where most are done by “normal people”.
Normal is not the word I would use. With the mass shooters maybe the issue is the drugs and the age of those taking them instead. In that linked article I posted above it said:
“4 percent of children and youth taking Luvox – that’s one in 25 – developed mania, a dangerous and violence-prone mental derangement characterized by extreme excitement and delusion.”
The shooters hear voices, experience confusion, helplessness in trying to stop what they are doing and like they’re watching a movie of themselves. There seems to be commonality with the age, the drugs, and the outcome, or psychosis. Maybe those factors outweigh the initial diagnosis?
Stucky, the statistic that matters here is not whether people with severe mental illness are more likely to be victims or perpetrators of crime, nor what percentage of crimes committed by those with serious mental illness is attributable to their symptoms (which I doubt can be well quantified). The statistic that matters is whether those with serious mental illness commit crimes – especially shootings, since that’s what we’re talking about – at a rate that exceeds their percentage of the population. Given the demonstrable mental illness of many of these shooters: James Holm, Seung-Hui Cho, Jared Loughner, Aaron Alexis (Navy Yard shooter), all the way back to the Texas sniper in 1966, I suspect that the mentally ill are over-represented among mass shooters.
Whether that means they should be on a prohibited list is another matter.
Mr. Buchanan hits the nail on the head,but he skirts around the real causes. He knows and says what they are.He just does not say the name of the root cause of Americas downfall. Liberal/Progressive policies!!!! Eradicate them,and things may start to turn around.
Really getting frustrated why NOBODY is acknowledging the fact that the FBI is ROTTEN from top to bottom. This may very likely be another “Feral Bastard Instigation/Intimidation/Insurrection” (FBI) “Test-Access-Expose”/”Roll-Out-Roll-Up” op to 1) test their [continued] control program, 2) access the media/plebs reaction, 3) expose any FBI op/players that may NOT be totally committed to said “cover-up/control” by the CRIMINAL State. It also compromises any/all new/unverified gov-agents to said program who will probably be ordered to “visit/intimidate” all the “problem witnesses” and confiscate all the CCTV recordings thereby solidifying their continued complicity. I find it difficult to believe that – to my knowledge – not even ONE of the INDEPENDENT Media are not aware/have not disclosed said BASTARDS as NRVs – No Redeeming Value – along with the likes of the HildaBeast, Soros, Sick Chaney, Eric [the race-baiting] Holder, Valerie Jarrett, just to mention a few of the more notables. After Aurora, Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Orlando, Charlottesville, Las Vegas and now Parkland, just to mention a FEW of the more “notable” COVER-UPS, what more PROOF is required for SOMEBODY to at least PUBLICLY entertain the POSSIBILITY of said?
This comment is difficult to follow. What are you trying to say…the FBI is responsible for the shooting? If so, can you provide a readable comment/article/facts please?
Wip, while I’m reserving my opinion on whether this is another false flag, I’m posting this video on Sandy Hoax. The Sandy Hoax was a psych-op that the FBI was complicit in as was the DOJ and the other alphabet soup agencies. Corrupt to the core. This should dispel any delusions about the FBI and what lengths it will sink to to BS the public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUtLA3CZVgA
I always wondered how they could keep a false flag story together with so many people involved. In the case of Sandy Hoax they all got free houses. $Billions were paid out to the conspirators-that’s how-some got a $500K pay off. See this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wplo-wWTCw
Steve,
I was mostly questioning wholy1’s comment since it was, to me anyway, a bit incoherent. I wanted him/her to give examples. Wholy1 and i forget are a challenging read.
I have a saying when I have a big job to do. I say “take it down in chunks”, that is to say, a step at a time. In time, entire mountains can be moved, one rock after another. So too, do our politicians take action after every mass shooting.
Ensuing Sandyhook, O’Barry issued 23 executive actions as 19 legislative actions were proposed.
After the Virginia Tech shooting new rules were passed that allowed the Social Security Administration to provide information to the gun background check system of people with “mental disabilities”.
After Vegas, it was bump-stocks.
Do you see a pattern?
Motives schmotives.
Just kill the fucker. (See Wip’s elephant/rhino article.)
Soft spot for rhinos?
What??? Three people down voted my suggestion to just kill the fucken shooter (after a fast and speedy trial, of course)??
Please identify yourselves, pronto.
I’m really surprised that more people haven’t been able to wake up to the fact that these shootings are the result of years of planning and very powerful mind control methods and drugs. Turning human beings, especially young men, into killing robots is a CIA specialty. Should we be surprised that it occurred the day after a black SUV tried to escape from an NSA facility and its occupants were gunned down. No time for media coverage of that incident when you have a young man shoot up a school somewhere else.
You can tell a tree by the fruit that it bears. We sit here on TBP and bitch about the Millenials and GovCo, et. al. However these are the fruit that our current society bears, this is the tree that we have nurtured over the past decades. You can sit there and continue to blame the symptoms like drugs etc., or boil it down to it’s true essence. We are all to blame, and until we get that it’ll never change. It is time for a paradigm shift, and I believe that is the pre-occupation with 4th Turning or TEOTWAWKI, or whatever you want to call it.
That’s why we voted in Trump…
What’s this collective WE shit, Gil?
Speak for yourself but dont include me in your guilt thing.
Hoo-wah! Glad to see that at least one other is getting really tired of other’s “collective presumption”. We be – each and every [individual] very special/unique “Ones”/images of the almighty “Author”, manifested in TO, but not OF this “world” to SERVE said Lord by SERVING our fellow [repenting] Men in greatest need. And as such . . . relieved, humbled and thankful for sight of One’s salvation BEFORE having – unknowingly – “run out One’s clock”.
The article is substantive but lumping the muslim shitbag that shot up the gay bar in Orlando is categorically incorrect. He and his old man are proof of the need to end the flow of mecca bowing, smelly muslim scum into this land of ours.
But if you take the basic points of the article: losers on pychotropic drugs or not, 300 million guns, schools that liberal idiots have fucked up from the inside out and left unprotected. ..it’s a recipe for repetition.
a year or so back i saw an astounding stat–
during non election years,pharmaceutical advertising accounts for far in excess of 50% of broadcasters revenues–i believe it’s close to 70% but i’m not taking the time to look it up–
that boys/girls is why we do not see mainstream discussions about the topic of psych drugs triggering these people who go on rampages–
…does that include Viagra?
It was a false flag. News media had stored stories talking about it two days before. And no, I will not give up my firearms.
I posted the comment below last night on another thread but since it’s about played out nobody really saw it.
I believe very strongly that mental health treatment needs to be de stigmatized.
in a nation of 320 million people there will be a huge # of mentally unstable people–
add in the lack of family stability,the media influence,both legal & illegal drugs,and because of the stigma attached the reluctance of friends/family to force people into mental health treatment and it’s understandable why we have these mass murders–
more on the mental health treatment–
while there is probably not much that can be done once a person reaches this point,people do not just wake up one morning having changed overnight from normal to bat poo crazy-
unless they are completely devoid of family/friends,which is rare,personality changes will be noticed–there is such a stigma attached to receiving mental health treatment that people around the sick person do not insist upon them getting help–
imho,there needs to be a way for people to receive help w/o being stigmatized–
how many of you have a friend,family member,co worker,etc. who needs some intervention but no one forces the issue because of the trouble that it might cause the person?
Here’s a short article that is not directly related to the shooting but is relevant since many mentally/emotionally unbalanced people self medicate with alcohol/drugs–
It’s about how drug users & pushers always find a substitute when drugs are outlawed or taken off the market–
Specific to this article,meth is making a huge comeback and it is purer then ever–
https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/02/14/dear-cdc-what-will-you-screw-next-meth-back-12574
I don’t see many helpful insights in this article. I’m glad to see people here raising the issue of psychiatric drugs, a clear and present danger to much of the population but a great source of revenue for corporate Amerika. Sorry Pat, but we are not going back to an early 20th century set of religious values, regrettable or not. Those buildings are empty or have been filled up by Christian fascists like our current VP, people whose religion is simply a mask for crude authoritarianism. As for the analogy with ye old musket above the fireplace, that’s kind of absurd. I grew up spending my boyhood weekends with a bunch of old coots in a hunting shack where there was what today would be a priceless collection of firearms including one of the original Kentucky rifles, a frontier masterpiece with a beautiful walnut stock I can still see clearly in my mind’s eye. I’d fired off every damn weapon from the early days of the country by the time I was 12. Though not a hunting enthusiast these days, I actually was in the woods with a shotgun before I had a driver’s license. However, I’m not in favor of every moron in the country having access to assault weapons. I see it as a matter of common sense. Even without the wonders of modern medicine, there will always be a fair number of lunatics roaming about, more so now with so many people left stranded without closely knit communities or family ties.
Joe SixPack doesn’t need an assault rifle for home protection and owning one won’t cure his erectile dysfunction. Nor do I think he’s going to protect us from the obvious threats posed by the Federal government. Maybe some “well-regulated militias” would, but even that seems nostalgic. If American society collapses into full-scale violence, I think starvation and pollution, especially from nuke plants that will destroy the environment if not maintained, will finish us all off equally, however well armed we are. Not that I’m against having a few weapons at the family retreat up in the woods. Let’s leave the big guns with the military. They’re always going to have a monopoly on force. We just need to make sure they take their oath to the Constitution a lot more seriously than most of today’s politicians.
…you mentioned assault weapons, you mean like baseball bats and shiit?
It seems like public schools are a breeding ground for the type of hatred (omega rage) that leeds to these massacres. A common sense prevention method would be to create more inclusive enironment that does not cast out unattractive members at will, while at the same time forcing young people to spend most of their waking hours in such a hostile, antisocial environment. Gun control is clearly not a solution, as guns are merely one of many ways to inflict harm on others.
In my memory the schools have been working on an authoritarian non-exclusion/no-bullying effort for some time now and the effect has been to magnify the problem, not lessen it.
Food for thought.
On Drudge a few days ago a story about some school principal banning the use of “best friend” because, you know, it excludes others.
What a sick bastard!
“We need to bring back bullies. Why do you think there are so many fat kids, there’s no-one left to take their lunch money.” Chris Rock
Get the HELLo away from the “citYzens/coasters”, and . . . HOMEschool TOGETHER.
One additional thought: Though in the wake of 9/11 and Newtown, we cannot offhandedly dismiss the idea of false flags, as incomprehensibly horrible as that idea may be, I’m still not sure how random citizens with assault rifles are going to help. They would be up against people who could vaporize their little armed encampments in a nanosecond.
The danger for the Elite lies not in an armed insurrection, but a frightened and desperate 325 million person herd that no longer feels that the government is able to protect them.
One person with a rifle has just proven how effective it can be in destabilizing a population on a local level, imagine what a well coordinated effort- or worse yet, an completely free-form and unconnected one would do to their perceived authority on a national scale.
Come on, Farmer! You REALLY believe it was one shooter?! I’m increasingly doubtful that the wigged-out on BigPharma meds “doofus” arrested was even ONE of the shooters!
Point taken.
These days I should know better than to assume anything about anything.
Since the government has effectively hogtied Christianity, we should establish organizations to help all the hate filled people redirect their feelings toward the true evil of society (Liberals, Banksters, etc to counter the programmed depravity of the government schools, MSM etc).
The FBI could not follow up on Cruz because they were too busy looking for RUSSIANS under Trumps bed..
Or trying to find nude photos of people on their computers.
Each of us has the capacity to unleash unspeakable evil. It is those around us that teach us not to and what is a better way to live a life of some meaning and purpose. Somehow this monster didn’t get the message, drugs or no drugs. What you can do is all you can for yourself and those around you to do good in this world, and fight evil when it shows up to take the little you have away.
What has changed in society ?When I was in high school no one ever dreamed of shooting up the school.There were very few fist fights. Even blacks were well behaved .Back to what has changed ? Only thing I can figure is we have gone from Christianity to moral relativism and more psychological drugs.We had as many guns and drugs were available yet no one would ever go on a Murderous rage of killing at least where I lived.
It was disco BB. This all started happening right around the time disco was unleashed upon the unsuspecting masses. 8-D
Everyone seemed to recognize this kid as troubled, including the police who were called 39 times.
He never, ever should have had access to any kind of gun, beginning with play guns when he was child and a bb gun as an adolescent.
Surely someone in his orbit knew he had acquired an AK 47. Where did this strange person learn to use it? Where did he practice?
No one ever seems to hold accountable the people who associate closely (like family) with these types but never get legal intervention to save them and others from terrible tragedy.
EDIT: I just read on Drudge that the FBI was clearly warned last month that this guy was threatening a school shooting. They failed to notify the Miami office.
I don’t want to hear another person say the corruption is at the top and the lower echelons are good guys. I never believed it anyway.
Great post, Gayle
Gayle, there’s no point in have corruption at the top if it doesn’t extend to corruption at the top of the field offices either right? The rank and file ARE good guys but their efforts are stymied by the management.
Bulls**t. (article, not comments)
Close the schools. They’re responsible. In a much deeper way than we can imagine. By design. Gatto’s work covered only a few of the implications of forced public schooling. And the change from high quality humans – the 1800’s America – to battery drones for the Matrix – takes generations. Of Deliberate Dumbing Down. Oligarchs can’t rule free, moral and proud people.
Even above that, the people (?) who want to complete The United Soviet Socialist Peoples Republic of America need continuing agitprop like this to divide and disarm (uh huh) the country for it’s 10 regions to be absorbed into the WCCE – the World Corporate Communist Empire.
Watch for more, as those in power behind the scenes create or find more disarmed kill boxes – in the emotionally charged Democrat Daycare Prison Lack of Concentration Camps – to exploit.
On a practical note, if Target ( 🙂 ) (everybody’s got one) stores had 300 shootings throughout their “system” last year, would you let your children shop – or even visit – there unarmed?
The motives behind the massacre are the same motives our elites have used for the last couple of decades………false flags to distract the sheople from what is really going on and to change the narrative. The elites and their minions are being backed into an increasing smaller corner. They know they’re fucked. They know their fate. They are like a wild wounded animal and they will lash out in every way still available to them to delay the inevitable.
THEY KNOW!
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I love that photo. IS it real or has it been photo shopped?
No idea. I use that pic to keep rats and mice out of my house and skunks out of the yard.
pat turns out you are part of the problem
One can do anything in a population of sleeping people. Those that are awake can see this for what it is.
I enjoy posting on a website where my views are sometimes greeted with unanimous approval and other times almost universal contempt. It does help me keep an open mind. I actually appreciate this very much.