We already have a de facto war on guns. A person only need call the cops to report somebody with a weapon and they come a killin’ in neighborhoods, hotels, parks…
One moron got himself killed because he reported having a gun to the copfuk on kill patrol.
rhs jr
February 17, 2018 5:13 pm
You can only wear that shirt in a real school (ie, a private school).
James
February 17, 2018 5:54 pm
I am not going to go off on a religious tangent,consider meself a pagan/animist what have you but seems to me god as many view god really is not going to be stopped from being in schools by administration/law,just gets in undercover like all the other thoughts/and or items prohibited by schools.
Anonymous
February 17, 2018 9:29 pm
when in a jam ,up against it, tight spot or worse, you will hear “god help me!” “oh Jesus”
“oh please dear god” where have you been? Hmmm?
Sketchy Detail
February 18, 2018 12:43 am
No God in School? From what I heard after listening to numerous students call into MSM outlets to get their 15 minutes, every single one of them said, we were just praying so hard.
What bothered me more was how many times commentators said, this is the new normal. No it isn’t !!
40 – 50 years ago when I was in school, this shit was NOT happening.
This is not normal at any time, and should it ever become accepted as normal,… just go ahead an euthanize me.
Hmmmm….,seems I got a lot of negs on me comment.Is it because I do not follow one of the big 3 religions/have different beliefs or that I had the gall to actually suggest that god as many see god would not be tripped up by school security?!This is why I do not like getting into the political religious discussions.That said,being open minded about others beliefs ect. and getting negged might as well throw this one out.In response to the shirts message ,well,why didn’t god strike the shooter unconscious ect. before entering the school grounds?!
Guns have been around for many years, the technology hasn’t changed much; pull trigger fire bullet. They were part of surviving in the exploration of the American wilderness, a part of the high school curriculum in the 50’s and the dream present for Christmas for every boy in America (just don’t shoot your eye out). What changed?
Politics: a meme pushed by politicians to further their cause in usurping America, but presented to the public in generating a fear of guns, in order to get rid of them. The proof for me is conversations with family members who equate the Lakeland shooting with the evil NRA and goes like this: “what’s wrong with you, can’t you see it was the NRA’s love of guns and violence that was behind the shooting?” After 30 years of programming, the NRA being the evil behind all gun violence is more certain than the sun rising tomorrow; “how can you not see this?”
Entertainment: the worship of violence has desensitized our younger generation now to constantly improving, ever more realistic X Box games of wall to wall carnage. In Christian perspectives, addiction to violence is just as much a threat to society as addiction to pornography.
And finally, religion: Before I launch, I wanted to look at atheism, which some feel is a religion, but that’s for another thread. Some of my best friends are atheists(sorry, I had to say it), but what your moral compass is will largely depend on how you were raised and what trauma comes into your life, that can alter your moral compass. Therefore atheism is largely individualistic; one may have the moral equivalent of Ghandi, while another the moral equivalent of Charles Manson. All by the way are influenced by the politics and entertainment of the day. But the bottom line is and has been the minimizing of God in our lives. This erases the golden rule standard of those who would seek to be pleasing the God and allows the society to enter into its obvious decline. In The pursuing of God, the realization of how important freedom is in following your beliefs is really the enemy of the progressives and the peace provided in trusting the creator of the universe with your hopes for our future, strikes against the fear and thirst for power that drives the politicians who use violence to accomplish their goals. All I am saying is by allowing God to have an influence again in our lives, we are giving peace a chance.
I sometimes listen to a podcast called “True Crime Historian”. Believe me, back in the “godly” days there was no shortage of depraved and mentally-ill people.
The biggest U.S. school massacre was carried out in 1927 by a guy with a bomb. Among other things, he was pissed off about property taxes. Here’s a bit about his relationship with church: “Andrew and his wife were born and raised as Roman Catholics and they went to church until there was a new one built. He was assessed four hundred dollars [would be about $5700 today] which he made no effort to pay. After some time the priest went out to see why they didn’t come to church or pay the assessment. Kehoe ordered him to the road and told him if he didn’t get there, he would see that he got there. After that time, he never went to church and the neighbors said that he never allowed his wife to go.”
Religion is just another vehicle for preying on people and trying to manipulate the masses (see the recent post on the Pope).
Mary Christine
February 18, 2018 10:23 am
“Therefore atheism is largely individualistic; one may have the moral equivalent of Ghandi, while another the moral equivalent of Charles Manson. All by the way are influenced by the politics and entertainment of the day”
I’m going to get hammered for this, but atheism is a religion. It’s a belief system like any other religion. That said, what Not Sure said is true but it’s also true for believers of all the other religions, too. Christians included.
My nephew is an atheist. I love him dearly. He has raised 3 beautiful teenage girls. He flew here from Denver a couple weeks ago just to help us for the weekend with our house. He was the person who recommended I read the 4th Turning several years ago. He also leans left but did not vote for Clinton. He is a complicated person, like most of us.
The T-shirt is a cutesy comeback but it’s just deflects from the many reasons why these things happen.
Mary Christine, atheism is not “like any other religion” because it doesn’t require you to believe in anything invisible or imaginary or subjective.
If I say I don’t believe in unicorns, that doesn’t make Notbelievinginunicorns a religion.
If you don’t believe in Thor, that doesn’t make NotbelievinginThor a religion.
I’m well aware that non-theistical propositions like “equality” or “free-market capitalism” or “techno-utopianism” can take on religious qualities in the minds of their believers, but that doesn’t mean believers and skeptics are somehow the same.
Between Jesus and Thor, I’d definitely pick Thor. Just a more pragmatic-type dude. None of that passive-aggressive Narcissistic Personality Disorder Lucy-and-the-Football Shit about suffering now so you can be closer to Me in Heaven.
If you have an infestation of giants, you really want Thor. Also, he’s got a kind of permaculture bent that I like: “his ability to kill and eat the goats that drive his chariot, gather their bones together in their hides, bless the hides with the hammer, and bring the animals back to life, as healthy and vital as before.[6]”
This is cool, too:”His seldom-mentioned wife, Sif, is noted for her golden hair above all else, which is surely a symbol for fields of grain. Their marriage is therefore an instance of what historians of religion call a “hierogamy” (divine marriage), which, particularly among Indo-European peoples, generally takes place between a sky god and an earth goddess. The fruitfulness of the land and the concomitant prosperity of the people is a result of the sexual union of sky and earth.[8]”
Monotheistic religions seem to encourage a rejection of the natural world in favor of a refined fantasy afterlife. That’s a grave perversion, imo. Though I don’t believe in spirits of any kind, I’d support an animistic religion over the current mainstream offerings any day.
Kidding aside, I think there is something seriously different about religions which are based in cyclic rhythms versus those (generally the monotheistic ones) with a monomaniacal “goal” [eg., “Kingdom of Heaven”].
Many of you folks appear fascinated by the idea of supposedly-natural “Turnings” and at the same time worship a supernatural framework which is end-goal-oriented (teleological)??? I don’t get that.
Anonymous
February 20, 2018 4:25 pm
I agree completely how God how can God help our schools if he’s not allowed to be in there anymore he was kicked out and then 1960s
Jeanette Ribordy
March 4, 2018 6:32 pm
Put God back in the schools, in the homes and the 10 commandments in the public squares!
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We already have a de facto war on guns. A person only need call the cops to report somebody with a weapon and they come a killin’ in neighborhoods, hotels, parks…
One moron got himself killed because he reported having a gun to the copfuk on kill patrol.
You can only wear that shirt in a real school (ie, a private school).
I am not going to go off on a religious tangent,consider meself a pagan/animist what have you but seems to me god as many view god really is not going to be stopped from being in schools by administration/law,just gets in undercover like all the other thoughts/and or items prohibited by schools.
when in a jam ,up against it, tight spot or worse, you will hear “god help me!” “oh Jesus”
“oh please dear god” where have you been? Hmmm?
No God in School? From what I heard after listening to numerous students call into MSM outlets to get their 15 minutes, every single one of them said, we were just praying so hard.
What bothered me more was how many times commentators said, this is the new normal. No it isn’t !!
40 – 50 years ago when I was in school, this shit was NOT happening.
This is not normal at any time, and should it ever become accepted as normal,… just go ahead an euthanize me.
Hmmmm….,seems I got a lot of negs on me comment.Is it because I do not follow one of the big 3 religions/have different beliefs or that I had the gall to actually suggest that god as many see god would not be tripped up by school security?!This is why I do not like getting into the political religious discussions.That said,being open minded about others beliefs ect. and getting negged might as well throw this one out.In response to the shirts message ,well,why didn’t god strike the shooter unconscious ect. before entering the school grounds?!
The same reason the god character doesn’t heal amputees.
Or, fix cavities.
Guns have been around for many years, the technology hasn’t changed much; pull trigger fire bullet. They were part of surviving in the exploration of the American wilderness, a part of the high school curriculum in the 50’s and the dream present for Christmas for every boy in America (just don’t shoot your eye out). What changed?
Politics: a meme pushed by politicians to further their cause in usurping America, but presented to the public in generating a fear of guns, in order to get rid of them. The proof for me is conversations with family members who equate the Lakeland shooting with the evil NRA and goes like this: “what’s wrong with you, can’t you see it was the NRA’s love of guns and violence that was behind the shooting?” After 30 years of programming, the NRA being the evil behind all gun violence is more certain than the sun rising tomorrow; “how can you not see this?”
Entertainment: the worship of violence has desensitized our younger generation now to constantly improving, ever more realistic X Box games of wall to wall carnage. In Christian perspectives, addiction to violence is just as much a threat to society as addiction to pornography.
And finally, religion: Before I launch, I wanted to look at atheism, which some feel is a religion, but that’s for another thread. Some of my best friends are atheists(sorry, I had to say it), but what your moral compass is will largely depend on how you were raised and what trauma comes into your life, that can alter your moral compass. Therefore atheism is largely individualistic; one may have the moral equivalent of Ghandi, while another the moral equivalent of Charles Manson. All by the way are influenced by the politics and entertainment of the day. But the bottom line is and has been the minimizing of God in our lives. This erases the golden rule standard of those who would seek to be pleasing the God and allows the society to enter into its obvious decline. In The pursuing of God, the realization of how important freedom is in following your beliefs is really the enemy of the progressives and the peace provided in trusting the creator of the universe with your hopes for our future, strikes against the fear and thirst for power that drives the politicians who use violence to accomplish their goals. All I am saying is by allowing God to have an influence again in our lives, we are giving peace a chance.
I sometimes listen to a podcast called “True Crime Historian”. Believe me, back in the “godly” days there was no shortage of depraved and mentally-ill people.
The biggest U.S. school massacre was carried out in 1927 by a guy with a bomb. Among other things, he was pissed off about property taxes. Here’s a bit about his relationship with church: “Andrew and his wife were born and raised as Roman Catholics and they went to church until there was a new one built. He was assessed four hundred dollars [would be about $5700 today] which he made no effort to pay. After some time the priest went out to see why they didn’t come to church or pay the assessment. Kehoe ordered him to the road and told him if he didn’t get there, he would see that he got there. After that time, he never went to church and the neighbors said that he never allowed his wife to go.”
Religion is just another vehicle for preying on people and trying to manipulate the masses (see the recent post on the Pope).
“Therefore atheism is largely individualistic; one may have the moral equivalent of Ghandi, while another the moral equivalent of Charles Manson. All by the way are influenced by the politics and entertainment of the day”
I’m going to get hammered for this, but atheism is a religion. It’s a belief system like any other religion. That said, what Not Sure said is true but it’s also true for believers of all the other religions, too. Christians included.
My nephew is an atheist. I love him dearly. He has raised 3 beautiful teenage girls. He flew here from Denver a couple weeks ago just to help us for the weekend with our house. He was the person who recommended I read the 4th Turning several years ago. He also leans left but did not vote for Clinton. He is a complicated person, like most of us.
The T-shirt is a cutesy comeback but it’s just deflects from the many reasons why these things happen.
Mary Christine, atheism is not “like any other religion” because it doesn’t require you to believe in anything invisible or imaginary or subjective.
If I say I don’t believe in unicorns, that doesn’t make Notbelievinginunicorns a religion.
If you don’t believe in Thor, that doesn’t make NotbelievinginThor a religion.
I’m well aware that non-theistical propositions like “equality” or “free-market capitalism” or “techno-utopianism” can take on religious qualities in the minds of their believers, but that doesn’t mean believers and skeptics are somehow the same.
Fucken anti-Thorite!!
???
Between Jesus and Thor, I’d definitely pick Thor. Just a more pragmatic-type dude. None of that passive-aggressive Narcissistic Personality Disorder Lucy-and-the-Football Shit about suffering now so you can be closer to Me in Heaven.
If you have an infestation of giants, you really want Thor. Also, he’s got a kind of permaculture bent that I like: “his ability to kill and eat the goats that drive his chariot, gather their bones together in their hides, bless the hides with the hammer, and bring the animals back to life, as healthy and vital as before.[6]”
This is cool, too:”His seldom-mentioned wife, Sif, is noted for her golden hair above all else, which is surely a symbol for fields of grain. Their marriage is therefore an instance of what historians of religion call a “hierogamy” (divine marriage), which, particularly among Indo-European peoples, generally takes place between a sky god and an earth goddess. The fruitfulness of the land and the concomitant prosperity of the people is a result of the sexual union of sky and earth.[8]”
Monotheistic religions seem to encourage a rejection of the natural world in favor of a refined fantasy afterlife. That’s a grave perversion, imo. Though I don’t believe in spirits of any kind, I’d support an animistic religion over the current mainstream offerings any day.
Kidding aside, I think there is something seriously different about religions which are based in cyclic rhythms versus those (generally the monotheistic ones) with a monomaniacal “goal” [eg., “Kingdom of Heaven”].
Many of you folks appear fascinated by the idea of supposedly-natural “Turnings” and at the same time worship a supernatural framework which is end-goal-oriented (teleological)??? I don’t get that.
I agree completely how God how can God help our schools if he’s not allowed to be in there anymore he was kicked out and then 1960s
Put God back in the schools, in the homes and the 10 commandments in the public squares!