US Weapons vs Russian. Russia Wins.

What does a trillion dollar defense budget get you?

A flaming PILE OF SHIT.

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On a positive note,  Mad Dog Baggy Eyes Mattis just yesterday said that terrorism is no longer our number one enemy.  I guess we won the War On Terror. Mission Accomplished. Yeah!!!

Unfortunately, he said countering China’s rapidly expanding military and an increasingly aggressive Russia are now the main focus of America’s national security.  Taking on Russia AND China … boy, that ought to work out just fucking great!!!

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Two reasons: complexity, and too much money

 


The F-35: Insanely expensive, its costs keep soaring – and it’s worse than Russian planes which cost 20 times less

 

In this fascinating analysis, our contributor explains why the US military is in serious trouble, unable to compete with Russia, and unlikely to change going forward.  He has experience in the military, civil service, Congress, and the lobbying and contracting sectors.  He lives in the Washington, DC area.


Lately we have seen some good analysis on the limits and vulnerabilities of the American military in light of events in the former Ukraine and especially Russia’s demonstrated competence in Syria.

So we have the “what” of the issue, but how about the “why”?

As a U.S. Army veteran and a longtime resident of the Beltway—including four-and-a-half years living on Crystal Drive in Arlington, Virginia, which has probably the densest concentration of “defense” contractors anywhere in America—I think I understand what is fundamentally wrong with the U.S. military-industrial complex (MIC.)

First and foremost, the MIC has long been incapable of producing durable, efficient, versatile weapons.

We don’t even have to look to the F-35 on this one.

(America’s latest fighter which has turned into a spectacular technical failure and massive  ($1.5 trillion!) expense  – see our super-popular article about how this plane stacks up against the Russian competition- edit)

Just consider the most basic item, the M-16.

The M-16 Assault Rifle

My field experience with this piece of junk is that it runs into problems in the presence of even a small amount of sand. When enough sand gets in to the chamber and mixes with the lube oil on the bolt assembly, the grit thus formed results in up to every second round misloading.

God forbid you should brush an oiled open breach against the side of your foxhole—you are out of commission.  In the absence of air or artillery support or sheer overwhelming numbers on your side, you are dead meat against anyone with a gun that functions in a sandy environment.  And why?  Because, as I was told in boot camp (whether it’s true or not), this thing is perfectly built to have zero fault tolerance.

Supposedly, just about every metal component in the M-16 is cast and/or machined to perfection rather than stamped.  Contrast this with Russian or Chinese weapons that are said to be built like can openers to spray lead under any conditions.  In other words, the M-16 is so sophisticated that it doesn’t work well.

It is now acknowledged that the M-16 with its 5.56mm rounds is insufficiently lethal beyond a couple of hundred meters, making it unsuited to long-distance firefights over open terrain (again those deserts, or perhaps shootouts between mountain ridges.)

The M-1 Abrams tank

Another great example – this can be a real dog.  The engine is a gas turbine, like with an aircraft, except that it is being driven around in deserts and even sandstorms, making it extremely finicky and high-maintenance.  (Would you fly your Boeing into a sandstorm?)  Of course, the Abrams was designed to fight in Germany where sand is not an issue.  But during the Iraq adventure, sand so tore up the turbine fans (or whatever) that over 1000 of these million-dollar “power packs” had to be removed and sent up for depot-level maintenance or refurbishment stateside.

Yes, that’s right—these things cannot even be fixed in the field.  All you can do is pull them out with a crane and ship them back to the civilians at enormous expense.  At the height of the Iraq adventure, around 2007, the maintenance backlog was so bad that even the national media got wind of it.

Of course, when you have the world’s reserve currency, you can afford all that and more—the entire world is paying for your wars.

But the waste and inefficiency are a fact.

The Basic Problem :  Excessive Complexity

I think the problem here is that American war planners and logisticians prefer originality, complexity, and/or expense-for-the-hell-of-it over versatility and ease of use and maintenance.  This is no surprise given America’s wealth and the longtime generous funding of its armed forces.  After all, every military reflects its own society.

Unfortunately for Uncle Sam, what he gets is equipment that may work very well in one environment but not another.

But so much for American equipment per se.  Let’s talk about Crystal Drive (a neighborhood in suburban Washington where many defense contractors have offices – edit.) —or more broadly, the MIC.

The Military Industrial Complex (MIC) is failing on a massive scale

It is clear now that the MIC cannot build anything for less than 200 percent of its original planned budget (and that’s being extremely conservative.)  Nor can anything it cranks out nowadays meet performance or survivability expectations.  Besides the never-ending supersonic train wreck known as the F-35, we have other boondoggle failures such as the Littoral Combat Ship, which by all accounts is less capable and more vulnerable than the 20 to 30 year-old vessels it was supposed to replace.

Or, going back a few years, we see the Army’s “Commanche” helicopter, an intended replacement for the Apache, which blew through $6.9 billion—in 1983-2004 dollars, probably over $10 billion today—before the entire program was scrapped.  That’s right, over $10 billion for nothing—not one Commanche was ever delivered for permanent use to an Army operational unit!

Where did that money go, if they didn’t actually manufacture anything besides a few prototypes?  Did they spend $10 billion on PowerPoint presentations?

My brain cannot even wrap around this.  Can you imagine what Russia or China could do for $10 billion?

However, even that pales before the Army’s cancelled Future Combat Systems program, which burned through an estimated (no one knows exactly) $20 billion from 2003 to somewhere between 2012 and 2014 (depending on what termination milestone you go by), with almost nothing to show beyond a few prototypes, a lot of concept art, and a 29-pound toy robot made by iRobot of “Roomba” vacuum cleaner fame.  In fact, I can’t think of one big new U.S. weapons system that has succeeded in the last 25 years, other than perhaps the Stryker armored car (though some have argued that point, and I just don’t know enough about it.)

As pointed out by many other observers, part of the blame lies with our political system, where MIC corporations buy politicians and then receive favors in the form of contracts, whether or not the contracts make any sense. However, I think this is not the only problem, nor even necessarily the biggest.

Fundamentally what I think we have is systemic over-complexity resulting in nothing getting done, or done well anyway.

US intelligence agencies have the same problem

This is akin to the deep systemic crisis in Uncle Sam’s intelligence agencies, where from 9/11 to the Arab Spring to Crimea to the ISIS conquest of Mosul to Russia in Syria, the word is always “we didn’t expect…”  In this case, we have numerous agencies—some of them with overlapping functions—that are drowning in paperwork and garbage data (or too much data) and are almost totally useless.

As some readers will remember, it got so bad that in April 2014 the State Department released a photo collage aiming to prove that (among other things) a bearded Chechen battalion commander going by the name Hamza, who appeared in Russian TV footage of the 2008 Olympic War, was none other than the bearded, overweight Slaviansk militiaman going by the call-sign “Babai”—in other words, Russian special forces have invaded the Donbass.  (The New York Times ran with this and was then oh-so-vaguely and gently reproached by its own ombudsman.)

Shouldn’t this awful joke have been prevented by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which is supposed to promote info-sharing among agencies and centrally vet all claims and conclusions—especially those being trumpeted on the State Department’s website or at its briefings?  Apparently not!

Bureaucratic bloat

On the other hand, what the U.S. lack-of-intelligence complex is very good at—besides hiring way too many buxom, flirty young things straight out of college and with no language skills or any experience at all (DIA and NGA, you know your ex-military managers like to beautify their offices)—is providing employment for tens of thousands of its own staff as well as tens of thousands of grotesquely-overpaid contractors, including those who build and run billion-dollar eavesdropping centers that have proven incapable of picking up anything useful, perhaps because when you try to listen to everything, you end up hearing nothing.

The lesson here is that the more offices and agencies, the more managers and political appointees who will seek to justify and expand their turf and budgets by shoveling out as much money on as many contracts as possible, as quickly as possible, in many cases even paying contractors to do little more than just sit around (sometimes at home) waiting for the next contract.  (I have seen this many times in Washington.)

Then you get so big that people simply trip over each other and the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing.

The US MIC worked great 50 years ago because less money and people were involved

So I think this is what’s going on not only in the intelligence apparatus, but in the MIC as a whole.  We have hundreds of thousands of staff and contractors as well as military officers assigned to liaise with them, all kinds of project managers and “six-sigma black belts” and other buzzwords, juggling millions of PowerPoints across the river from Washington and throughout the country, and they can’t field a helicopter after spending $10 billion on it.

Really?  How did this great country ever defeat the Japanese Empire?

Go to the National Air and Space Museum in Washington; you will see the most amazing things—e.g. generators designed to operate on the surface of the Moon, drawing electricity from the heat of plutonium decay—that were developed when there was no Crystal Drive, no Tysons Corner, etc.

Then go to the museum’s extension near Dulles airport and check out the SR-71 “Blackbird”, the fastest and highest-flying airplane ever built (this was about 50 years ago.)

How did they do it?

Although there were more men in uniform back then, the MIC itself (or should I say the Military-Industrial-Intelligence-Homeland-Insecurity-Complex (MIIHIC)) – had but a fraction of today’s civilian workforce.  Luckily, most of those paper-pushing “systems integrators” and PowerPoint rangers did not exist.  Blueprints were drafted with pencil and paper.

Today, Uncle Sam can’t even build a heavy rocket engine, not to mention a good helmet or ejection seat for his F-35.

No hope for change going forward

So it seems that as a technical civilization we are degenerating.

Sure, there are constant advancements in microelectronics (a.k.a. integrated circuits) and the programs they allow, but in terms of heavy engineering—of which the MIIHIC and other government initiatives like the space program were at the forefront since WWII—it seems that the U.S. is tapped out.

And you know what?  Throwing more money at it is just going to make it worse.

The organizations with their budgets and their perfectly reasonable-sounding arguments for ever-greater budgets will grow, their workforces will grow, the contracting sector will grow, more shiny office buildings will go up, but the result will be an ever-increasingly-negative marginal return.

John McCain and all the other broken records in and out of the Pentagon will say we still don’t have enough funds to counter a pointless Russian invasion of parasitic, inconsequential Lithuania (currently headed by a longtime communist) or any other 1990s-era speculative wargame training scenario that somehow carried over into the public consciousness and morphed into the Greatest Threat to World Peace.

Of course, as long as the U.S. has the money to send gazillion-dollar armies and armadas against illiterate natives armed with sharp sticks and coconuts, this may not visibly threaten its hegemony.  Almost any problem or mistake can be papered over with money, for a long time anyway.

But eventually, even if the money spigot does not constrict, we will get to the point where the military really can’t be used as anything more than a façade or a gunboat road-show, hoping no one calls the bluff, because the stuff just doesn’t work like it’s supposed to, or else is too vulnerable (witness the evacuation of the U.S. aircraft carrier from the Persian Gulf after Uncle Sam found out that Russia has cruise missiles with a range of at least 1500km, or the ridiculous sail-around of China’s little islands which had the sense to infringe only very slightly and briefly on that country’s imaginary territorial waters), or the natives can devise their own countermeasures.

In fact, I would say we are at that point already.  Not to mention, the U.S. Army and the Department of Veterans Affairs are still so tapped-out after Iraq and Afghanistan that another major ground operation is unthinkable.  (At this point, Washington is more likely to launch nukes at somebody than risk another ground war.)

So you can anticipate a lot of hand-wringing and a lot more money being thrown into the breach.  That’s simply what the machine does; there is no chance to reform it, nor will the Hegemony dissipate willingly (although lately it’s done a good job of dissipating unwillingly.)

But all that money may as well be flushed down the can.

The threshold has been reached and it’s all downhill from here.

https://russia-insider.com/en/military/epic-fail-heres-why-most-us-weapons-systems-are-worse-russias/ri11097

Author: Stucky

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Anonymous
Anonymous
April 28, 2018 2:27 pm

The continuous downing of our aircraft by Russian fighters and missiles and the ongoing defeats of our ground forces and of our navy by Russian army and naval weapons is all the proof needed of Russian weapons superiority to ours.

Work-In-Progress
Work-In-Progress
  Anonymous
April 28, 2018 2:42 pm

I haven’t heard about ANY (other than the 70 or so missiles shot out of the Syrian skies recently) of these happenings. If you are not being sarcastic, can you post links to support your comment please?

Even better yet, write an article please and I will get it posted.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Work-In-Progress
April 28, 2018 2:48 pm

Any evidence of those shot down missiles?

As in the obvious remains and radar tracking records of them? Every shoot down of a missile or aircraft in the ME is usually immediately well publicized in news media all over the world, but none seems to be appearing on this.

I’ve heard we launched 105 missiles and 105 missiles hit their targets. I’ve seen no credible evidence that this is not true.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Anonymous
April 28, 2018 6:33 pm

Mouse, you have seen it, you are just too dumb to understand it as credible.

Wip
Wip
  Anonymous
April 28, 2018 8:13 pm

Yes, I get it, how can we KNOW anything. I’m just saying, I would like more information on all these shot down American planes is all.

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
  Wip
April 28, 2018 8:33 pm

Now Wip, you are asking for too much. When someone says something, you just have to have belief in it. Just like the Ruskies poisoned the Skripals and Assad gassed his citizens, both without proof but hey, someone said they did it so just have belief that they did.

Steve C
Steve C
  Anonymous
April 29, 2018 9:58 am

It’s pretty sad that we have to depend on other nations news media to get anything that even resembles the truth.

Here’s an interesting article from Russia Insider about America’s ‘claims’ of our missile intercepts in Iraq versus ‘results’ of our missile attacks in Syria.

Likely some propaganda included but, what little I trust them is more than I trust what passes for a news media in the US…

https://russia-insider.com/en/major-fail-why-most-those-tomahawks-never-hit-their-targets-syria/ri23177

ellone
ellone
April 28, 2018 2:40 pm

Stupidity has a kind of brutally dumb power, as the government demonstrates daily. It is second only to the power of conformity and acceptance of evil.

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
April 28, 2018 2:44 pm

F 35 Thank you John F*ck’n McStain and Lindsey Boy Graham.

Texas Patriot
Texas Patriot
  Crawfisher
April 28, 2018 3:18 pm

Yep, that plane should be re-numbered as the FU-69!!!!

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
April 28, 2018 2:55 pm

Come on, get your cynical hat and put that sucker on! The MIC could care less whether the weapon systems work or not….the worse they work the more money Congress will throw at at……Failure is rewarded with more money! We have been the single super power for quite some time and so the whole procurement mission is not about preparedness its about sucking as much money as possible out of the government! And man the MIC is very very good at it.

We haven’t been in a war since WWII and even then the Russians did the dying with Germany and Japan wasn’t much of a threat after Wake. Total war we haven’t seen since the Civil War. Don’t worry we will end up fighting China, the real enemy and my money is on Cheetos Jesus convincing Russia to join us. Then the bullshit will stop and we will bring out the very nasty toys we haven’t talked about.

You don’t think we really spend $1,000 on hammers do you? $5 hammers and $995 for secret squirrel tech etc. If you think our “tech” level peaked 50 years ago with the SR-71 I strongly suggest you have just a wee bit more faith. Some significant fraction of UFO’s are just USA Air Force stuff.

BTW if you have any seen any actual Russian jets or tanks etc……utilitarian is an understatement. Primitive might be more appropriate. Russians are good with software and mechanical fixes but cutting edge materials and applications not so much. China literally has nothing they didn’t steal. That is a big problem for them when the balloon goes up……they may have backdoors in stuff…I assure you we do.

So to me the tragedy is the overwhelming corruption and fear mongering to promote more spending all of which is BS and pork…..and the whole MIC needs to go to prison.

Now having said that, when its time to get real, there is no doubt in my mind we will have plenty of well functioning tools for our millions of troops fighting a real war not an empire police action.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Martel's Hammer
April 29, 2018 12:37 am

A real war against the US populace, I imagine.

Jack Lovett
Jack Lovett
April 28, 2018 3:02 pm

The war OF terror needs to stop NOW!!
Israels bitch needs to stop all it is doing.
But no, looks like war for Israel/Iran in Syria.

Bob P
Bob P
April 28, 2018 3:19 pm

If we couldn’t beat a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan after 15 years, I don’t like our chances against Russia and China.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Bob P
April 28, 2018 4:05 pm

The goat fuckers and child pederasts have beaten all comers except Alexander and The British Army after enormous cost and only for a short period of time. Perfect ground and culture for low tech warfare against an imperial invader.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
April 28, 2018 3:38 pm

“uncola painted a picture of Satan as an evil fucker, hellbent on fucking up our lives, a cocksucker who won’t even allow individuality, free thought, or imaginings.

That’s the easy way. Everybody always paints Old Nick in the worst possible light. This doesn’t make sense to me. For a former Angel Of Light, a Bright and Morning Star, he sure is one stupid motherfucker!! Doesn’t he realize you attract more flies with honey than vinegar? Seriously, if you were trying to start some movement, would you do it by lying to people, treating them like shit, breaking promises, etc. etc? Nope”

Isn’t all of the above EXACTLY what the Hegelian minions in the Seat of Pergamon doing? I’m thinkin you’ve probably seen a lot of shit many of us could not even imagine ! But I’m also thinkin you ought to sell out and move the hell away from there !

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
April 28, 2018 3:49 pm

The purpose of US military spending it NOT to create great weapons.

The purpose is to give truckloads of money to the MIC cronies so they can give some back in bribes, I mean, campaign contributions to our elected officials.

Unknown
Unknown
April 28, 2018 3:55 pm

It appears the modern Military Industrial Complex’s worst casualty is common sense.

However, I do often wonder about about black budgets, dark ops, and unrevealed technologies. There remains the possibility that the heretofore publicized failures provide cover for these; in accordance to Sun Tzu’s “all warfare is based on deception”.

Or, it could be Occam’s Razor applies once again and the famous corporate consultant, Jim Collins, was right when he said: “The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline.”

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Unknown
April 28, 2018 4:08 pm

The answer is both…..MIC is gorging on taxpayer money and failing on purpose…but we also have plenty of very high tech and capabilities that are not well known and would be game changers in a serious existential total war. The next war is likely to be decided in the first serveral minutes and then may or may not go conventional if there is anybody left alive capable of fighting.

Wayne Tallaksen
Wayne Tallaksen
  Martel's Hammer
April 29, 2018 3:56 pm

Ah, who survives a Nuclear confrontation? Don`t kid yourself, there are too many different angles and means of attack around the globe, ring around the rosie, a pocket full of posies ashes ashes we all fall down.

AC
AC
April 28, 2018 4:36 pm

The real difference between American and Russian military procurement strategies:

American military procurement is a scam intended to enrich the anointed ‘contractor class,’ at the expense of society. I get the impression that, while the cash is nice, it isn’t really worth it for them unless they are selling completely useless crap to the military.

Russian military procurement is intended to supply the Russian military with effective weapon systems, at an affordable price.

Wip
Wip
  AC
April 28, 2018 8:19 pm

I would think that is a possibility.

musket
musket
April 28, 2018 4:45 pm

Burning the shitters! Some things never change!

Steve C
Steve C
April 28, 2018 5:31 pm

Stucky – It all goes back to design for purpose thing.

Do we want a defense or an offence?

The US decided decades ago to become an imperial empire and its military reflects that pursuit.

Our aircraft carriers are a ‘force projection’ weapon. That’s actually what the misnamed DOD (Department Of Defense) and the US Navy call them.

They are useful in projecting American military might against small and mostly defenseless countries – or at least they used to be. Technology moves on and now even small countries have the monies and the abilities to send these floating grey whales to the bottom of the sea via hyper-velocity see-skimming missiles fired from portable shore batteries and torpedoes fired from small, quiet, and damned near undetectable diesel powered submarines that can lay and wait for them to pass.

Carriers are useless at actually defending the US and have outlived their ability to defend themselves. About the only thing that they defend today is a huge amount of money for the MIC (Military Industrial Complex) and Navy Admirals equally huge egos.

As I detailed in your post about Russian equipment a few months ago Russia’s defense force is just that. They have a layered air defense that is well suited to defending their huge land area.

The first line of defense is a long range, high altitude, high-speed interceptor called the MIG-31 Foxbat. It carries seven long-range air-to-air missiles. It doesn’t need a whole lot of stealth, as the biggest limitation of stealth is that it’s only stealthy until you activate its search radar. That’s like shining a flashlight in the dark. Everyone can see where you are.

The MIG-31 relies on a network of ground-based radars to send it the radar location information of any enemy intruders. That data can be uploaded to its onboard targeting radar without ever needing to turn on its air search radar. It’s that home field advantage thing and the Russians are good at taking advantage of it. JUST AS WE COULD BE…

The MIG-31 is no dogfighter, but it was never designed to be. Its job is defense not offense.

They are already working on a replacement for the MIG-31. The MIG-41 is planned to fly at Mach 4.0-4.3 and will likely have at least the same number of long-range missiles (7) as the MIG-31. Firing in salvos is a part of their tactics.

At Mach 4, it will also be able to fly faster than any missiles fired at it. All of their thinking is defending their homeland.

Their next line of air defense is the impressive line of Sukhoi fighters. The Su-27, Su-30, Su-35, etc. are all proven designs that are reliable and effective (unlike ours).

Finally, the last line of defense is what I call the point defense fighter/interceptor. They have the MIG-35, and MIG-29’s for that role and they are excellent. As with the Sukhoi’s they are a proven design that they have improved upon over the years, are reliable, and work well.

The Russian planes all go when they hit the start button.

The US could have the same type of mix if defending our own country was the actual mission.

The SR-71 that you mentioned is actually a plane derived from the YF-12A that was originally designed for the exact same task as the MIG-31 – a long range, high-altitude, high-speed, interceptor that would be guided to its targets by ground-based radar.

When the US abandoned actually defending the US, the YF-12A was redesigned as the SR-71 reconnaissance plane that we all know today.

Even the great Kelly Johnson that designed it said that we were building the wrong plane. He understood the need for the YF-12A just as the Soviets/Russians understand the need for the MIG-31 and the soon to be MIG-41.

If we could build it in 1964, we should be able to build it today.

Our next line of air defense could be the two-seat F-15E redesigned specifically for air interdiction. That means lighter, less complex, less costly, and more reliable. The F-14 would be a better choice, but that asshole Chaney cancelled it when he was Bush’s secretary of defense so that he could give the contract to his friends at McDonald Douglas for their very inferior F/A-18. The last of the magnificent F-14’s were retired in 2006. They are gone.

Finally, the best for the task point defense fighter was the F-5E Tiger II. It was small, simple, easy to maintain and relatively cheap. All things that the US Air Force hates. Northrup tried redesigning it as the high performance F-20 Tigershark with a more powerful engine, lots of flashing lights and gee-wiz stuff to suit the generals, but the cost skyrocketed and so did the complexity taking away the qualities that made it so good for the job.

The F-16 could be redesigned as a simpler air defense interceptor-only plane that cost less and would be a lot more reliable without all of the other equipment needed for multitasking.

Remember that more complicated you make the plumbing, the more likely it will be to stop up the drain. For defense purposes, the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) should be a priority. It sure works for the Russians…

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
  Steve C
April 28, 2018 6:04 pm

Nice, Steve

Jake
Jake
  Steve C
April 28, 2018 11:40 pm

Steve, the F-18 is a hybrid of the F-15 and F-20.

starfcker
starfcker
  Jake
April 29, 2018 6:52 am

And from everyone I’ve ever heard, vastly superior to the F-14

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
April 28, 2018 6:07 pm

Martell’s Hammer…………..you stated the the Orange one could convince Russia to team up with the US to defeat China.

That is one ridiculous statement. Most countries and especially Russia, know to never trust the US.
Back-Stabbers.

anon
anon
April 28, 2018 10:06 pm

Bravo Steve C!

Impressive write up!

You didn’t mention the YAK-141.. the Soviet F35/JSF.. they built and tested it in 1987.. and scrapped the program in 1991 because they realized it was useless in real world applications.. offense or defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-141

((USA)) on the other hand.. started designing the F35 in 1992 and only got a plane BUILT in 2006!

HAHA!

The ((USA)) planes also LACK sufficient INFRARED technologies on both offensive and defensive sides of aerospace weapon systems.. The Russians have THE ***BEST*** INFRARED DETECTION SYSTEMS AND MISSILES IN THE WORLD!

PLUS they got a lot of awesome and almost unstoppable toys that don’t fly…

Thanks again for the wonderful write up!

Keep preaching the truth!!

Steve C
Steve C
  anon
April 29, 2018 12:05 am

Anon – I think that you are the only person on this blog other than myself to ever mention how good Russia’s IR technology is.

The Lockheed/Martin F-35 Turkey “One A Day In Tampa Bay”

Their R-73 (AA-11 Archer) and now R-74 missiles (Russia’s Sidewinders) are excellent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-73_(missile)

Steve C
Steve C
  Steve C
May 1, 2018 7:54 am

Thanks for the link Anon. I found it an interesting article.

I’m not sure that I agree with their assessment that the Sidewinder is the best IR air-to-air missile available today though. The Russian’s R-74 that I mentioned and the German IRIS-T seem to be pretty good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS-T

Sweden also has a good medium-range missile with it’s Meteor. And, as the article you linked to stated we are still stuck with the 25-year old AIM-120 AMRAAM.

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-best-air-to-air-missile-in-the-world-is-in-sweden-339b2cb6afa8

I’d be interested in any additional information or thoughts you have on these two missiles and any thoughts in general. You seem well informed.

Regards

anon
anon
  Steve C
May 1, 2018 11:29 pm

Steve C,

I agree with you regarding the Sidewinder. The EW and countermeasures systems of other countries are far more advanced than most people even in the ((USA)) “defense” industry want to admit.

The missles you listed are awesome. However, most people make the wrong assumption that everything is isolated in the theater.. like a one-on-one situation. Modern warfare is filled with many support systems.. AWACS, ground based radar, etc.. which make one-on-one situations rare. For example, if some communication system goes down, some of these missiles will not operate properly.. that is a huge reason Russians shoot more than one missile at a time vs the NATO one and done theory. Also what most people never mention is that it usually takes 2 or more aircraft vs 1 to triangulate the target’s location without revealing the launch platform.. similar to how great white sharks hunt.. one distracts or chases the prey while the other gets the kill blow from “out of nowhere”.

Have you ever heard of this war game?

Millennium Challenge 2002
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

A retired Marine Corps Lieutenant General (RED TEAM) DESTROYED the ENTIRE CARRIER GROUP (BLUE TEAM)!

The carrier battle group’s Aegis radar system — which tracks and attempts to intercept incoming missiles — was quickly overwhelmed, and 19 U.S. ships were sunk, including the carrier, several cruisers, and five amphibious ships. “The whole thing was over in five, maybe ten minutes,” Van Riper said.

MILLENNIUM CHALLENGE: THE REAL STORY OF A CORRUPTED MILITARY EXERCISE AND ITS LEGACY

Millennium Challenge: The Real Story of a Corrupted Military Exercise and its Legacy

That time a Marine general led a fictional Iran against the US military – and won
https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/that-time-a-marine-general-led-a-fictional-iran-against-the-us-military-and-won

Let’s just say ((CONGRESS)), the ((MILITARY)) and the ((DEFENSE INDUSTRY)) didn’t want to talk about it.

It is for this reason ((ISRAEL)) wants ((USA)) and other ((GOYIM)) to do their dirty work.

4th Turner
4th Turner
April 28, 2018 10:32 pm

“I guess we won the War On Terror. Mission Accomplished. Yeah!!!”

All you whiners need to get with the program!! Get with it! Check the 2 min video for some proper motivation: [NSFW]

KaD
KaD
April 28, 2018 11:00 pm

The first half of this is interesting concerning Russia and its use of a super-EMP weapon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=xWspv83lSm8

RHS Jr
RHS Jr
April 28, 2018 11:24 pm

So how are all the AA Diversity Quota Obama and LGBTQIA misc dingbat fruitcakes working out for the Modern Military?

Jake
Jake
April 28, 2018 11:27 pm

Does it bother anyone else that whenever you see a picture or video of troops burning shitters no one is ever wearing gloves?

Visitor from Germany
Visitor from Germany
April 29, 2018 4:48 am

“That’s right, over $10 billion for nothing—not one Commanche was ever delivered for permanent use to an Army operational unit!”

But…but…but…in the Video Games, they were introduced as “the most lethal non-nuclear weapons system of the army”…??? And, and, Tom Clancy staged them in “Debt of Honor”????

(I loved the video games! :(( And Tom Clancy too, then…)

And none delivered?? NOW I’m feeling really disillusioned :((

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
April 29, 2018 9:56 am

Great post and great comments… Chip