Meteorologists Expect Coldest April on Record

I bet you don’t see any stories about the coldest April in recorded U.S. history on NPR, MSNBC, or any other left wing propaganda media machines. This doesn’t fit the global warming narrative. Whenever the country experiences a heat wave, the global warming lunatics are out in force. Whenever we experience bitter cold, these lunatics are either silent or declaring the extreme cold is also due to global warming. It seems all of Al Gore’s dire predictions and their models are 100% wrong. What a shocker.

Via The National Review

April 2018 is expected to be the coldest month of April in the U.S. since reliable record keeping began in 1895.

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The historically low spring temperatures have created problems for farmers in the northern plains and Midwest as the unseasonably cold soil prevents them from planting their crops on time.

Agricultural experts expect that, as in years past, the cold spring temperatures portend a lower yield when farmers harvest in the fall.

Astonishingly, much of the northern plains and Northeast was colder than Anchorage, Alaska in the first half of April.

A winter storm in mid-April sealed the month as the snowiest on record in Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minn., Sioux Falls, S.D., Green Bay, Wis., Wausau, Wis., and Alpena, Mich.

In fact, Green Bay, Wis. doubled its previous snow record of 15.1 inches, which was set in 1907.

With four days still remaining in the month, April is all-but-guaranteed to be the coldest on record for the U.S.

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kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
April 30, 2018 8:29 am

CO2 increasing and getting colder……Moar proof of the GloBULL Warming Hoax

Moar fodder for the gullible to choke on

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles

The cooling experienced in parts of the US and Europe is due to the jet stream being fucked up since the Arctic is no longer particularly cold (above-freezing temps mid-winter).

https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2012/12/polar-jet-stream-appears-hugely-deformed.html

The sea ice this winter did not really re-grow as per usual, despite the North Pole being in total darkness… so that pretty much eliminates any possibility of *any* degree of global dimming, intentional or unintentional, ever reversing the melting process underway.

This is a really big deal, by the way.
Latent heat is going to make what is already abrupt climate change even abrupter.
Latent heat is all the heat that we don’t actually experience because it is being used up in the phase-change process of turning ice at 0 degrees C into water at 0 degrees C. Once there’s no more ice, that 80 calories per gram of ice will now raise the water 80 degrees C per gram instead. Oh, and there’ll be a lot more water vapor then, too, and that also has a greenhouse effect.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Administrator
April 30, 2018 3:23 pm

We’ll be dead by then, but just in case not, stock up on rum drinks and those tiny umbrellas…

ClevelandRocks
ClevelandRocks
April 30, 2018 8:30 am

The beginning of the grand solar minimum.

anarchyst
anarchyst
April 30, 2018 8:34 am

the new “Maunder minimum” is upon us…there are two long-term solar cycles that correspond with our present weather conditions…

ClevelandRocks
ClevelandRocks
  anarchyst
April 30, 2018 9:28 pm

I believe they are calling it “the eddy mimimum”.

Gubmint Cheese
Gubmint Cheese
April 30, 2018 8:51 am

The shysters rebranded the glowbull warming scam. The new dogma is “climate change”.

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
  Gubmint Cheese
April 30, 2018 9:05 am

Exactly. Even though CO2 was increasing, the temps weren’t increasing. With this embarrassment, what do the shysters do?

Eureka!, Let’s change the meme to Climate Change, where every negative event on planet earth is caused by CO2 – the Magic Molecule. They were counting on the intelligence level of the public to believe this ridiculous statement.

Mousanony
Mousanony

To be fair, no one has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the average human being.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles

There is a lag time between the release of gases and their warming effect. Also, it takes a huge amount of heat to warm up the oceans.. we’ve benefitted from that thermal mass in recent decades.. going forward it will retain heat beyond the point where we quit emitting greenhouse gases.

Seriously, people.. this is all basic high-school thermodynamics ‘n’ stuff.
You can stomp your feet and put your fingers in your ears and sing la-la-la to your heart’s content, though.. Knock yourselves out.

Go get some tickets to NASCAR.
Lease a Ferrari.
Rack up your frequent flyer miles.
It doesn’t matter anymore: the tipping points have been reached.

Alfred1860
Alfred1860
  Administrator
April 30, 2018 2:05 pm

Over the last two decades, I don’t think any term has been misused or misunderstood as much as “science”. It doesn’t mean what most people think it means.

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
  Alfred1860
April 30, 2018 3:46 pm

Science:

1. Come up with desired result first.
2. Devise an experiment that is likely to produce desired result.
3. Conduct the experiment. If the experiment does not produce the desired result, throw it away, get more funding, and conduct another experiment.
4. If the experiment produces the desired result, submit for peer review.
5. When doing peer review, if result does not produce the same result as the original experiment, scrap it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 30, 2018 8:56 am

The usual warmer response is predictable, “weather is not climate”.

Of course, if April was the warmest month, it would be considered proof of global warming.

Steve
Steve
April 30, 2018 9:07 am

We went from global warming to climate change. What’s the next watered down version to maintain the charade? Anomalous weather? Inconsistent weather? Anything but the truth; bet on that.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Steve
April 30, 2018 3:43 pm

The truth is there for people with eyes to see it. The non-human animals, plants, and insects tell us what is happening. The wildfires tell us what is happening. The more-intensive storms tell us. The dissolving oyster shells tell us CO2 is acidifying the oceans.

What kind of delusion makes people think they can double the amount of a reactive gas into the atmosphere over the course of a couple hundred years and think it will have no effect? [Triple or quadruple the amount, in the case of methane, which few even take into account in news or political reports—because if they did, everyone would know it’s game over].

Actions have consequences.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Chubby Bubbles
May 1, 2018 3:42 am

lol, science guy…. CO2 is NOT A REACTIVE GAS.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Anonymous
May 1, 2018 3:44 pm

It’s reactive in the presence of water.

Westcoastdeplorable (formerly Westcoaster)
Westcoastdeplorable (formerly Westcoaster)
  Steve
April 30, 2018 11:19 pm

Did ya’ll know there are 66 different weathers?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
April 30, 2018 9:12 am

Do libs think good, 100+ year temperature records exist from Mongolia, Cameroon, Madagascar, Kamchatka, Uruguay? We only have dependable temperature records from Europe and the Anglosphere. A few years ago they caught the warmists taking the few historical temperature records from South America and adjusting the past temps downward to enhance the purported warming. The heat island effect has skewed the land temp records from the US, and we’re supposed to accept that the adjustments made to counter that are both accurate and devoid of political intent. Satellite data – that which has shown the least warming – has been around for fewer than 40 years. 70% of the Earth’s surface is ocean. The Argo Array of ocean buoys (which, inconveniently, moves with ocean currents) only began to be deployed in 2007. There may well be warming – to which I say “good” – but most people have no conception of how limited the data are and how much is extrapolated guesswork.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Iska Waran
April 30, 2018 12:45 pm

Iska, didn’t you know that Madagascar was a pioneer in launching weather satellites? It’s true – just read: Ebonic History of the World. It’s only six pages long.

Stucky
Stucky
  Dutchman
April 30, 2018 12:56 pm

” …. read: Ebonic History of the World. It’s only six pages long.”

And the first 5 pages were intentionally left blank.

overthecliff
overthecliff
April 30, 2018 9:14 am

Colder than the April of 1815, the year without Summer?

Steve
Steve
April 30, 2018 9:14 am

If sea ice melting causes rising water levels, why doesn’t the melting ice in my lemonade cause the glass to overflow? Hey, Bill Nye science guy whad up wit dat?

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
  Steve
April 30, 2018 9:31 am

Steve………………sea ice melting doesn’t change the water level; it is land ice on continents (like Antarctica) and Glaciers.

Bill Nye the Doofus Guy

Alfred1860
Alfred1860
  Steve
April 30, 2018 2:10 pm

I had to explain this to my local “celebrity science guy” once.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
April 30, 2018 9:21 am

If we had one million years of climate data it would cover .0025% of the time and weather of the planets history, equivalent of monitoring the temperature from 9:19 am to 9:20 am this morning and deciding it was the earths climate.

Edit: 9:19.00 to 9:19.15 is closer

Annie
Annie
  Martin brundlefly
April 30, 2018 11:03 am

Excellent! If you don’t mind I may steal this for my next global warming rebuttal.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Annie
April 30, 2018 1:25 pm

Go ahead. Another neat bit of math, is to use liberals actual numbers to show them the actual percent of the atmosphere they are fighting. According to bill nye since 1976 co2 has gone from .03% to .04% of our atmosphere. That is 3/100ths to now 4/100ths of 1 percent of our atmosphere. Aint much is it? We need 96% of that co2. So we are fighting 4% of .01% of our atmosphere. And you are telling me we can measure that worldwide accurately throughout all of the levels of stratification of our atmosphere? And its not like we want to eliminate co2 as we need it for the planet to survive. We are fighting an infintesimal quantity of an invisible harmless and manditory for all life gas.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Martin brundlefly
April 30, 2018 3:22 pm

We do have millions of years of climate data. Scientists analyze the fossil record as well as air samples trapped in ice formed hundreds of thousands of years ago.

“Ice cores contain little air bubbles and, thus, represent the only direct archive of the composition of the past atmosphere,” says Hubertus Fischer, an experimental climate physics professor at the University of Bern in Switzerland and lead author of the study. A 3.2-km-long ice core drilled almost a decade ago at Dome Concordia (Dome C) in Antarctica revealed 800,000 years of climate history, showing that greenhouse gases and temperature have mostly moved in lockstep. Now, an international team of scientists wants to know what happened before that.

At the root of their quest is a climate transition that marine-sediment studies reveal happened some 1.2 million years to 900,000 years ago.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131105081228.htm

Dutchman
Dutchman
April 30, 2018 9:23 am

Here in Minneapolis – April 28 – still some snow in my backyard. Did some raking on Sunday, and put out the yard waste. First I checked to see what the first date when they would pick-up — It was April 9th.

billy bob
billy bob
April 30, 2018 9:41 am

As I pear out the window of my Learjet, and my two Garrett TFE731-2 turbofan engines spew tons of exhaust gases into the thinnest parts of the atmosphere, UN-encumbered by any kind of pollution control, the thought suddenly comes to me…

How can I keep the rest of you from clogging up my sky?

Dutchman
Dutchman
  billy bob
April 30, 2018 12:41 pm

“spew tons of exhaust gases”

That’s a real personal problem. Bet yo have trouble getting a date?

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  billy bob
April 30, 2018 1:26 pm

Leonardo, is that you?

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
April 30, 2018 3:17 pm

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Polar Vortex: How the Jet Stream and Climate Change Bring on Cold Snaps

Like with Hardscrabble’s post about “public perception”.. reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.

Bilco
Bilco
April 30, 2018 3:22 pm

If anyone from MSNBC or NPR is trolling the on TBP today. Let me bring them up to speed on their global warming BS. It is April 30th,and here in Upstate NY it is 36 and snowing.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Bilco
April 30, 2018 3:38 pm

Because Upstate NY is “global”??

Good God..

Mark
Mark
  Chubby Bubbles
April 30, 2018 6:40 pm

CB,

You have to understand how jaded most of us are in anything related to CONTROL over U.S

CONTROL through Obamacare leading to socialized medicine.

CONTROL through disarming U.S. so “they” can build their Animal Farm utopia.

CONTROL through Global Warming then Climate Change to tax U.S. even wider and deeper shoving an upside down international agreement down our throats while further transferring our wealth to shithole countries.

Your posts are always sound and reasoned…on the flip side…what do you think about the burgeoning Solar Minimum side…Cold Times, Dark Winter etc. The scientific evidence of an approaching Little Ice Age?.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Mark
April 30, 2018 8:27 pm

Mark, those CONTROL issues may well be, but they really have little or nothing to do with the physical phenomena playing themselves out, except that governments will become increasingly desperate in the face of increasing population- and climate-induced chaos.

My belief is that any government measures are too little, too late, and so won’t matter in the grand scheme of things. In fact, it’s the ILLUSION of control that got us here in the first place.

As for solar cycles, the first thing I came across was here:
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/solar-minima.html
If the peak/nadir/whatever of an 11-year cycle was in 2008, then would we see that in avg. global temps? Here are some charts; again, the first batch I came across:
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/
While some of these show what looks like a downward tick in 2008, even the lows follow a strong exponential trend upwards from what I can see.

If you have other, specific, links I would be happy to check them out.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Mark
April 30, 2018 9:43 pm

More on Mark’s comment: A lot of people are under stress and feel as though these environmental issues are placing blame on them personally. I believe this spurs the deeply-dopey adolescent comments, above.

Far from an unprecedented reaction in human history, people want to make this crisis a *political* issue, when it is a *reality* issue. There’s an unhelpful tendency for each “side” to accuse the other of being evil and demonic.

It’s true that a lot of “environmentalists” do place blame on human activity, but there is a distinction in my mind between “responsibility” and “blame”. You don’t “blame” a wasp for laying its egg inside a live caterpillar, it simply performs that behavior. At this level of evolution, destructive civilizing is what humans “do”, for better or worse. It will turn out to be an evolutionary dead end joining the vast majority of evolutionary dead ends on the historical trash-heap.

My understanding is that we cannot control our innate desires towards accumulating power, and that no organism can. Some people working in physics and systems science have come up with what I believe to be extremely valid theories as to why “we” can’t stop ourselves even as “we” see ourselves destroying the biosphere and ultimately ourselves along with it. Once I started reading this material, a light-bulb went off inside my head. They explained every ill-logical (ha, ha.. typo, but I’ll leave it in) thing that propels people to double-down on enterprises with diminishing returns even at a personal level.

To understand our predicament, start with MIT’s very basic “Limits to Growth” study, by which we are right on the collapse schedule. Warming is a form of pollution in that model; all of our industrial activities give off enormous amounts of waste heat in addition to greenhouse gases.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/looking-back-on-the-limits-of-growth-125269840/

Then look into Tim Garrett’s recent work (civilization is a heat engine).

Is Global Warming Unstoppable?

Thermodynamics of long-run economic innovation and growth
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.3554v1.pdf
No way out? The double-bind in seeking global prosperity alongside mitigated climate change
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1010.0428v3.pdf

Even more interesting are Prigogine’s theories about non-equilibirum thermodynamics and lifeforms as dissipative structures (dissipative of energy). I have not delved deeply into those yet.. not sure if I need to since the proposition is such an elegant one with great explanatory power. Basically our role is to break down energy gradients.

Related are theories positing a Maximum Power Principle (MPP) / Maximum EmPower (or Entropy Production) Principle (MEPP).

The maximum power principle (MPP) states that biological systems organize to increase power whenever the system constraints allow.
https://www.unm.edu/%7Ejdelong/delong2008oik.pdf

.. the MPP states that systems develop to increase the total flow of energy or power through the system. …the maximization of power in ecosystems occurs with maximum entropy production
https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/66/1/27/2464043

Etc., etc.

===============
Whatever the degree of warming (I believe it could get very high, very rapidly), we are still going to be killing off the planet’s capacity to provide human habitat in about as many other ways as you can possibly think of.. new waves of deforestation, for example: https://cassandralegacy.blogspot.cz/2018/04/the-road-to-seneca-cliff-is-paved-with.html

Killing off of insects is another traumatic ongoing event the impact of which IMO is vastly underestimated. I think a big part of the forests’ dying globally (the forests are dying, globally, by the way) could be not just warmth and (more important) ozone and UV increases, but also the lack of insects’ foliar manuring as part of the overall nutrient cycle.

And don’t forget the abandonment of the 450+ nuke plants that’ll be happening in the not-too-distant future.

It’s all part of the same emergent process, and will give us plenty to keep us interested as long as the lights remain on.

Mark
Mark
April 30, 2018 9:52 pm

CB,

Thanks, I would value your opinion on this interview from 2015. I read this gentleman’s book when it was first out, then I read Cold Times and have gone on a number of sites trying to figure out what is really going to happen climate wise?

I’m also a believer in the 4th Turning, a serious long term Prepper and live on a modest Homestead/working farm.

He has some serious credentials.

What do you think about on his views that we have some “Dark Winters” coming at us.

One reason I am so interested in this is I am getting ready to clear some land and build my last home (I’m 68). The one I live in now is not ideal for a Little Ice Age. This last winter was rough as far as frozen pipes and a frozen well head for the first time! I live in NC. I have some expensive design plans based on preparing for Dark Winters. I’m also building this house with my Daughter and her family in mind to inherit or move into it with us if TSHTF for what ever reason(s).

NASA scientist warned about the coming mini ice age back in 2015
https://www.disclose.tv/nasa-scientist-warned-about-the-coming-mini-ice-age-back-in-2015-318625

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Mark
April 30, 2018 10:29 pm

I promise to watch the video on Wed., since I need to go to bed now in order to wake up in time for a day too full of commitments tomorrow. Will reply in this space.

Mark
Mark
  Chubby Bubbles
April 30, 2018 10:43 pm

I look forward to your analysis!

Here is his book:

Climate change has been a perplexing problem for years. In Dark Winter, author John L. Casey, a former White House national space policy advisor, NASA headquarters consultant, and space shuttle engineer tells the truth about ominous changes taking place in the climate and the Sun.

Casey’s research into the Sun’s activity, which began almost a decade ago, resulted in discovery of a solar cycle that is now reversing from its global warming phase to that of dangerous global cooling for the next thirty years or more. This new cold climate will dramatically impact the world’s citizens. In Dark Winter, he provides evidence of the following:

• The end of global warming
• The beginning of a “solar hibernation,” a historic reduction in the energy output of the Sun
• A long-term drop in Earth’s temperatures
• The start of the next climate change to decades of dangerously cold weather
• The high probability of record earthquakes and volcanic eruptions

A sobering look at Earth’s future, Dark Winter predicts worldwide, crop- destroying cold; food shortages and riots in the United States and abroad; significant global loss of life; and social, political, and economic upheaval.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
May 1, 2018 5:44 am

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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
May 1, 2018 5:49 am

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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
May 1, 2018 6:01 am

The ocean levels are rising or they are not. All that is required to discover the truth is evidence- nothing doctored, nothing altered, nothing averaged or played with or spun- just simple proofs that a child can see.

Here’s the thing. The people who are the worst offenders in every case- the ones who jet around the planet the way that you or I run errands to the store- the ones who consume kilowatt hours in their mansions and office buildings at rates that would make your head spin, who never drive from point A to point B without an entourage of armored cars following in their wake- those are the people trying to convince you of the problem they’d like to fix.

I don’t take marriage advice from the divorced, don’t take parenting advice from the barren and childless, don’t take dating tips from the lonely, dieting advice from the obese.

They may be telling the truth but they have lied so often, live such hypocritical lives and deceive with such ease, that it would be both illogical and unwarranted to take their advice on anything.

We have records on the walls of the sugarhouse that go back over a century; average start date for tapping, last day of the season, etc. I have been using that data, written in pencil on the wooden walls by the hands of old men and children for generations now to determine when to tap our trees. Everyone else around here is all in on global warming and they tap earlier each year, some in December and January. This year they all had a lackluster year because the cold lasted so late into the season and all their tap holes dried up before the sap flowed. We did better than we’ve done in years because we looked at the writing on the wall and followed the lead of people who weren’t trying to convince anyone of anything other than to record the facts.

When I see the people who ought to know better change their behavior I may start to believe that they have a real motivation based on knowledge, but for now it’s business as usual and you’d have to have a screw loose to trust anything that they have to say on the matter.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
May 2, 2018 5:10 am

HSF: “a real motivation based on knowledge”.. I have come to the conclusion that Human Agency is a red herring. Humans act based on determinacies, against their own comprehension.

The Northeast may be cool this year, but Australia is so hot that the bats’ brains are boiling and they are falling dead out of the trees:
A 2016 “State of the Climate” report by the bureau found that average surface air and sea temperatures had risen by around 1 degree Celsius (about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit) since 1910, and that “the duration, frequency and intensity of extreme heat events” had increased.
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/01/australian-heat-wave-flying-fox-deaths-koala-spd/
(NG=Noted left-wing Murdoch rag.)

(I responded regarding Venice in your subsequent main post.)

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
May 2, 2018 6:01 am

To Mark, re the Casey video: Mr. Casey says (in 2015) that the current long 206-year solar cycle “has already ended global warming and started a new global cooling or cold-climate phase”. Three years on, we know that is just not the case. Remember, parts of the US are not the same as “the globe”.

I see that he does start out with the clear (and not invalid) political concern (which you raised) about control, and controlling emissions and so forth. But I don’t necessarily find arguments coming from the Drill, Baby, Drill Tea Party to be convincing on a scientific basis, any more than arguments coming from the globalist Obama crew, who are running their own scams.

My take is: YES, I think that banksters have been salivating at the idea of a rigged carbon-credit system by dint of which they can skim off undeserved wealth. That this uniquely-focused benefit, though, would cause thousands of scientists around the world and across decades to concur falsely on AGW seems a stretch, to me. Really, these scientists are all in their little silos, and they actually are more conservative than the situation would warrant.

The IPCC, which is hated by the sort of anti-globalist polemicists running sites like the one you linked to, is FAR TOO CONSERVATIVE in their warming estimation: they reference ZERO feedback loops, and there are ZERO mentions of methane, which is a greenhouse gas far more more powerful than CO2. IPCC talks CO2 *only*.. not albedo, not methane, not latent heat effect… There are at least 60-something self-reinforcing positive feedback loops that the IPCC ignores (in this case, positive = bad because it leads to more of something). An example of a positive feedback loop: more ice melting leads to darker oceans and land which absorb more heat which leads to more ice melting, etc.

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https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/feedbacks.html

Mr. Casey is not a climate scientist.. he’s apparently some kind of engineer who worked on the space shuttle. I know engineers; I went to MIT. They can be.. blinkered, is a nice way to put it.

I agree with Casey’s comments on population and resiliency during climate dislocations. Whether cold or heat, or simply too much variation, the issues like riots will be similar. Crop damage will result from fluctuations either way, as well. What he says about preparedness and global political and social challenges is uncontroversial.

Starts out snarkier than I would like, but a rebuttal to the “solar minimum / ice age” claims can be found here: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/jan/09/the-imminent-mini-ice-age-myth-is-back-and-its-still-wrong

It’s perfectly consistent in the AGW-theory world for NC and Florida to be having record cold (polar vortex) and sea-level rise (AGW) happening at the same time, and I think that’s what we are seeing. What we are seeing across the board does not (imo) support a current “global cooling” theory. I can’t say that that will never, ever, happen in the future, just that I don’t believe it is what we are seeing now, contrary to Mr. Casey’s claims in 2015 that global warming had ended.

“The Russians” are predicting a Little Ice Age?
https://phys.org/news/2006-02-russian-scientist-mini-ice-age.html
2/7/06: Khabibullo Abdusamatov of the Pulkovo Astronomic Observatory in St. Petersburg said Monday that temperatures will begin falling six or seven years from now..
Again, we haven’t seen this cooling.
Other Russians are studying methane release from the oceans and from what was once permafrost, instead, and are quite alarmed as to the potential ramifications of that.

Solar activity correlation to seismic activity?
First Casey says there’s no money for research, but then he says (his?) research shows correlations. Not going to weigh in on this any further, since it isn’t relevant to warming, anyway.

================================
Now, I waited ’til after watching the video to look up more on Casey. Seems there are issues:
https://environmentalforest.blogspot.com/2014/11/tom-luongos-multiple-lies-about-climate.html
https://environmentalforest.blogspot.com/2015/01/john-l-casey-and-climate-denial.html

I’m not going to vouch for every graph and equation listed above, but I generally find this person to be more credible than Mr. Casey.


You say NC is too cold.. I’m in Vermont, and I think it’s too warm! Things seem rather “crispy” from what I remember growing up in New England.

Re-doing your well and putting in a frost-free hydrant might be cheaper than building a whole new homestead, all else being equal, but good luck either way. The grid is going to be an issue no matter what (dying trees mean lots of lines down around here).

As for fossil fuels, we are going to get off those fairly soon regardless, since current production (extraction) is declining at 6%/year, according to those notorious tree-huggers HSBC. It won’t be because of hippies wanting to save the planet that we stop burning oil.. we simply won’t be able to get it out of the ground for less than the net energy recovered, but TPTB probably figure “let’s you and him fight” works out better for them in this scenario.

Annie
Annie
  Chubby Bubbles
May 2, 2018 11:32 am

C’mon CB. You didn’t even know about solar minimums until a couple days ago and now you’re an expert??? We’re heading into a solar minimum. Previous solar minimums precipitated mini ice ages. You might want to look at the long term cycle of ice ages, too. Geologically we’re just barely edging out of the last one.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Annie
May 2, 2018 1:20 pm

I did know about them, but did not give them a lot of heed. I never said I was an expert. Mark asked me to watch a video and give him my opinion on it. That’s what I did. I appreciate that my opinion may be of little-to-zero value to you.

Mark
Mark
May 2, 2018 1:52 pm

Thanks CB I appreciate your response and time. Annie that was an interesting You Tube:

FIRE:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=climate%20change%20you%20tubes&qs=n&form=QBVRMH&sp=-1&pq=climate%20change%20you%20tubes&sc=1-24&sk=&cvid=AE7CB53F7B914709B7DE2AD00A0A55AD

(I can’t stand the Bill Nye)

ICE:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=solar+minumn+you+tubes&qpvt=solar+minumn+you+tubes&FORM=VDRE

Remember the Twilight Episode when the world was being cooked by the sun….then the ending had the world freezing?

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=twilight+zone+theme&&view=detail&mid=920D18A5D3E6DF760A6F920D18A5D3E6DF760A6F&&FORM=VRDGAR

I’m just going to build a house that is built like a well insulated bunker (with wood burning stoves one for cooking and one for heat) with a slopped roof for all the snow to slide off and lots of firing ports to keep the Golden Horde at bay…and a strong AC system just in case.

I’m no scientist (but I did sleep at a Holiday Day Inn last week) and I do not trust the Left but will build to cover all Climate Change, Solar Minimum/Little Ice Age, 4th Turning, Civil War 2, WW3, Tribulation, Economic Collapse – Everything Bubble Pop, family coming to live with us because they are over heated or freezing and hungry…home stead/farm design features!

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Mark
May 2, 2018 2:05 pm

You might want to look into some of what Mike Oehler has built. An underground house could keep you cool in the summer without A/C. It would also be inconspicuous. A variety of small shelters with different characteristics might give more flexibility than one mega-structure.. I’m coming to realize that a bit later than I would have liked.

Mark
Mark
  Chubby Bubbles
May 2, 2018 10:13 pm

CB,

I am looking at everything.

As far as the Fire or Ice dilemma I believe the great sage Frank Zappa said it best:

It isn’t necessary to imagine the world ending in fire or ice. There are two other possibilities: one is paperwork, and the other is nostalgia. Frank Zappa

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Mark
May 2, 2018 10:24 pm

Ha! I think I am in the nostalgia camp. Do you think we might ever be nostalgic for paperwork?

In all of your understandable desire to be prepping, remember how most people have lived throughout the many, many, millennia.. without any particular guarantees or life security whatsoever. It is hard to confront death and our own decline and mortality even in the best of times. Don’t be too hard on yourself, and do what feels within your capacity and competence.. better to succeed at something modest than to overreach and fail in bitter frustration (I have seen the latter happen… there’s a reason why, on airplanes, they tell people to put their own oxygen masks on first, before trying to help others). Best wishes to you.