If It Gets Bad, I’ll Go to Idaho

Guest Post by Jeff Thomas

In the 1930’s, the farm population in the US was nearly 25% of the total and it was quite common for farmers to borrow from the bank (using their farms as collateral) in the expectation that the proceeds from their annual crop would pay off the note each year.

But, in 1929, there was a crash in the stock market, lowering the sales price of crops significantly. That, and coincidental droughts throughout the farm belt, resulted in a large percentage of the thirty million farmers failing to meet their payments. They lost their farms.

Worse, they could not turn to another line of work, as layoffs were taking place in all industries, as a result of the Great Depression, which followed the crash.

But it was said that, in California, there was year-round good weather and the orange groves were full of fruit needing to be picked. If only the Okies could get there, they’d be all right.

And, of course, as most Americans know, this ended in a mass migration. Some 7,000 Okies flooded into California every month.

Not surprisingly, Californians found that they had to deal with overwhelming numbers of people with limited skills, all of whom were broke. They were everywhere and, in a very short time, the authorities were called in to keep them out.

Of course, in any situation in which large numbers of starving people are pitted against armed authorities, the situation does not end well.

In looking back at this period, it’s important to remember that, in mid-1929, warnings had been offered that a market crash was in the making and that the US would soon find itself in an economic crisis.

In spite of these warnings, the great majority of people said, “If it happens, I’ll deal with it when the time comes.”

Unfortunately, if people are to escape becoming casualties of an economic crisis, they must make plans and implement them in advance of the crisis.

And so, nearly ninety years later, we find ourselves in a similar situation. A market crash is in the making and the US (and many other countries) will soon find itself in an economic crisis.

And, just as in 1929, the bankers and the media are claiming that the economy has never been healthier and that it’s foolish to worry. (This is being said, even as larger players are quietly exiting the market.)

Increasingly, I’m asked for consultations by people who say, “I understand a crisis is coming, but what can I do about it?”

Well, in fact, the answer is pretty straightforward, but that doesn’t mean it will be painless. Indeed, it requires a major change for most people, often the greatest change of their lifetimes.

  • If you live in a jurisdiction that will be impacted in a major way, liquidate whatever assets you can.
  • Remove all wealth, except for three months of expense money, from any banking institutions within that jurisdiction.
  • Remove all the proceeds from that jurisdiction to one that’s less likely to be impacted. (If the proceeds are sufficient that they can be divided into multiple safer jurisdictions, so much the better.)
  • Convert the proceeds into forms that are difficult for your home jurisdiction to confiscate (real estate, precious metals and some cash as expense money)
  • Store all precious metals and cash in a non-banking institution in that jurisdiction.
  • Purchase or rent a home in a jurisdiction that’s unlikely to be negatively impacted and obtain the right to reside there, should you choose to move there at short notice.

Unfortunately, in the great majority of cases in which I’ve described this as a “Crisis Insurance” policy, the individual asking for the advice views the policy as overwhelming. If he’s an American, as many of them are, he often says, “If it gets that bad, I’ll just go to Idaho.”

Unfortunately, this “solution” is flippant and ill-advised. Since we have no crystal ball, our best bet is to turn to history if we’re to gauge the viability of current “solutions.” We may ask ourselves, “How did this play out in previous similar situations?” This almost always forces us to be honest with ourselves – to abandon half-baked or “solutions” and do the harder work of developing a real solution.

In light of the Okie history of the 30’s, it’s safe to say that, if an American were to plan to “just go to Idaho,” this time around, we can anticipate that this is what he would find:

  • Like the Okies, he would have already have experienced the crash and had lost whatever wealth he had (however large or small) and was now in a rather desperate situation.
  • Unlike the Okies, he would have better roads to travel on and the family SUV would be a better moving van than the Model A Ford of the 30’s.
  • Once the decision was reached to actually go to Idaho, countless others would already have hit the road and an exodus would be underway.
  • It’s likely that, in today’s world, some states would declare an emergency and disallow travel over their roads. Others might charge a fee to pass through (as state governments would also be in a financial crisis and would need the money).
  • For the last ten years, police departments have been encouraged by the Federal Government to make up for their budget shortfalls by relying on Civil Asset Forfeiture – the confiscation of possessions (including money) of those travelling the highways. This would be likely to increase dramatically in an economic crisis.
  • It would not be at all unlikely that gangs of disenfranchised people would also take to the roads, to prey on travelers.
  • Once arrived in Idaho, the migrants would find that such a flood of people was quite unwelcome to those who had been wise enough to establish themselves years in advance. It wouldn’t be at all surprising to find that floods of newcomers would be met with force, both by the authorities and the citizens, as occurred in the 1930’s.

The odds that “I’ll just go to Idaho” might be a workable solution to a crisis, would be unlikely in the extreme.

As stated above, if people are to escape becoming casualties of an economic crisis, they must make plans and implement them in advance of the crisis. Any after-the-fact solution would be a pipe dream.

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
August 20, 2018 9:53 am

So buy gold, I guess. Better hope it’s not gold-plated tungsten.

Per/Norway
Per/Norway
  Iska Waran
August 20, 2018 8:57 pm

how about silver? i like silver, it is dirt cheap these days.

Jack Lovett
Jack Lovett
August 20, 2018 10:09 am

I just get a warm fuzzy feeling for the banksters that engineered the 29 crash. The crash they have planned for us now will be much more severe.

doug
doug
August 20, 2018 10:54 am

Move to Wyoming, instead. There’s no economy in Idaho and lots of guns!

MadMike
MadMike
  doug
August 20, 2018 1:29 pm

If the SHTF goes down one of the things you will need is lots of guns…
And ammo and the training to use them.

Jackarlope
Jackarlope
  doug
August 21, 2018 12:11 am

Too cold to grow anything. Western Wyoming has lots of Mormons. You could always go after they’re stockpiles.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
August 20, 2018 11:06 am

I feel like Bob the Baptist crying out in the wilderness again. One reason farmers got hit with low prices in the late 20s is everybody had switched from horses to tractors and to much food got produced. In the 2020s, not enough food will get produced. In the Eddy Minimum (the next 30 to 400 years), Idaho is going to be very cold and unsuitable for gardens and small pastures. Plan to get below the Armageddon Line (however, that is not a good scientific device because the Eastern Laurentide Ice Sheet and the Western Cordilleran Ice Sheet do not overlap and are farther north). This climatic event will be like the one that sent northern people (Goths etc) fleeing south into the late Roman Empire around 500 AD. Later cold periods drove Mongols south. The next great cold period will dry up the US West and force millions to go east and south. The snow pack will begin around north eastern Canada and grow every winter driving people south. My guess is that New England and Upper Midwest infrastructure, and large cities (esp with Black populations) will breakdown within a couple years after the great snow falls (which could be 3 years or 10 years away). If the New Madrid Fault breaks, it will be immediately.

BL
BL
  robert h siddell jr
August 20, 2018 12:00 pm

Nice post RHS. Normally, I would worry about mini-glacial periods but no more. We have hit the technology jackpot in this era and that is no longer a problem. Thanks to the folks in the know , they can massage the ionosphere and heat large land masses with HAARP technology to avoid those pesky ice sheets. Also we are so lucky to have the latest do-dad called the SOLAR SIMULATOR which provides added light and heat to those dreary solar minimum days, take a look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZJcSzO9viU

BL
BL
  BL
August 20, 2018 12:04 pm
Diogenes
Diogenes
  BL
August 20, 2018 12:30 pm

Don’t worry BL, with all the aluminum in the soil from chemtrailing we will all have Alzheimers and won’t remember a thing

BL
BL
  Diogenes
August 20, 2018 12:36 pm

Who is BL?? What day is it? Ummmm Whut?
Funny Dio……

Diogenes
Diogenes
  BL
August 20, 2018 1:03 pm

BL you must have a lot of email addresses

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  BL
August 20, 2018 12:49 pm

It’s first assignment should be to refill Lake Meade; if it fails, at least people will be warm when they die of thirst.

BL
BL
  robert h siddell jr
August 20, 2018 12:56 pm

Robert, that’s the beauty of it, all that melted ice and snow also solves the fresh water crisis we keep hearing about. You can sleep well tonight, as we all will, knowing there are solutions.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  BL
August 20, 2018 2:45 pm

But they will have to pump the water over the Great Divide to get it to Lake Meade.

22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
August 20, 2018 11:55 am

You run you die.

BB
BB

Winbag , Nazis = National Socialist Germans Workers Partying.
I do agree that getting out of the cities is a good idea. If not then have a good battle rifle ,food , medical supplies and enough water to last at least 3 months. I plan on staying at home with Mom as she is determined to hold the fort down come hell or high water.

Taras 77
Taras 77
August 20, 2018 2:03 pm

I live in Idaho, SW corner. We have mass invasion of Californians! No way to close the borders.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Taras 77
August 20, 2018 2:46 pm

I’m in Florida; I feel your pain.

ozum
ozum
  Taras 77
August 21, 2018 1:00 am

Same here in the panhandle.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
August 20, 2018 3:22 pm

Too late! The Kommiefornians already beat everyone to Idaho.

I never made the connection between all those Okies moving to Kommiefornia and Kommiefornia being so fucked up until I read the opening of this article. Makes sense. I think Kenny Lane from Knuckledraggin would agree.

BL
BL
  IndenturedServant
August 20, 2018 3:51 pm

True story Indentured, I had a cousin who looked up which state had the least amount of blacks, it was Idaho. So, he packed all his belongings and moved there from the deep south and lived there very content for 40+ years til he died. He just got up one morning and announced he couldn’t take it any more and was gone for good. Smartest one of my aunt’s chil’ren.

GrnMtnRad
GrnMtnRad
August 20, 2018 4:20 pm

For an in-depth exploration of just such a migration crisis (set in 2040), with closed borders, transit bonds, transit visas, migrant camps, an accompanying national constitutional crisis, etc., see these two novels (3rd coming later in 2018):

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
August 20, 2018 4:23 pm

Don’ bother with Idaho. The air is unreathable with smoke, the climate is terrible pretty much all year, there are no jobs or services, and the place is already full.

penforce
penforce
  Treefarmer
August 20, 2018 9:17 pm

Oh, and there are tons of liars.

Signed Treefarmer from Idaho, Idaho.

ozum
ozum
  Treefarmer
August 21, 2018 1:03 am

That’s right….it’s horrible here, stay away. And what would your friends think if you lived in a town called Athol ?!?

KaD
KaD
August 20, 2018 9:21 pm

I have to laugh at articles like this. It must be nice to have enough money to even think about getting the f out before the economy hits the fan.