As Tesla struggles to exit ‘production hell,’ buyers complain of delivery limbo

Via The LA Times

As Tesla struggles to exit 'production hell,' buyers complain of delivery limbo

There’s no doubt in Richard Lam’s mind: When he takes the wheel of his Tesla Model 3, he’ll be thrilled with it. “I hear that owners, once they get their cars, are very happy,” said Lam, 31, an electrical engineer from Diamond Bar.

Getting it is the problem. Lam has been waiting more than two months. He’s already paid Tesla for the highest-end Model 3 available, which costs $79,500. He’s paying principal and interest on his loan. But for now he’s left driving a 1999 Mustang, a loaner from his brother.

“I’m not very happy with the current situation,” he said.

He’s not alone. Complaints about Tesla taking people’s money while they wait weeks for the cars, often with no firm delivery dates, are all over Twitter, Facebook and the Tesla Motors Club user forum. Owners who try to contact delivery representatives say voicemail boxes are full, and calling around to different Tesla numbers yields conflicting information.

Tesla’s service issues go beyond delivery glitches. Many of those who have cars complain that repairs can take weeks or months, and email and phone inquiries often don’t get returned.

Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk acknowledged the depth of the customer-service problems Wednesday in a tweet: “Due to a large increase in vehicle delivery volume in North America, Tesla customers may experience longer response times. Resolving this is our top priority.”

A Tesla spokeswoman declined to make a company executive available to discuss what Tesla is doing to resolve the problems. She did say, however, that she spent Wednesday “volunteering at one of the delivery centers.” She declined to elaborate.

Lam said that since he was promised a specific Model 3, two delivery dates have been broken. On Aug. 8, he was told 45 minutes before scheduled pickup that the car wasn’t available. Then, on Aug. 30, one Tesla representative told him his car hadn’t yet been put on the delivery truck, and another told him the car had not yet been built.

The Aug. 8 delivery was canceled, Lam was told, because the car hadn’t passed quality inspection. Social media is filled with customers complaining about Model 3 quality, including paint bubbles, dents, dirt, dead batteries, broken bumpers and cars delivered in the wrong color.

Tesla had cranked up production volume in late June, bent on meeting Musk’s goal of 5,000 cars a week, even though the company was still working to repair bottlenecks on the Model 3 line caused by installation of robot-heavy technology that didn’t work as planned. A new assembly line was built under a tent in the parking lot of the company’s Fremont, Calif., factory to handle the load.

Business Insider in August revealed an internal Tesla document that said 80% of the 5,000 cars built in the Model 3’s “burst week” in June required rework. Tesla reminded the news site the document was confidential, Business Insider said. Tesla also said that “rework” can include minor repairs, and that “our goal is to produce a perfect car for every customer.”

What percentage of currently produced Model 3s require rework is unknown outside Tesla.

Lam figures the rework disrupted delivery logistics.

“Their production hell has translated into delivery hell, essentially,” he said, referring to Musk’s “production hell” description of the manufacturing push. Musk insists that situation is being resolved, in large part by abandoning the aggressive automation effort that Musk had said was intended to make Tesla the “best manufacturer on Earth.”

While some paid-up customers wait for their vehicles, thousands of Model 3s are being stored on huge lots, including one near the Burbank airport. The company has said that’s part of a normal logistics process. Some industry observers say it also reflects quality issues that require repair, and lack of demand for some versions of the Model 3.

“My guess is demand is a tiny fraction of what they thought it was going to be,” said former General Motors Vice Chairman and frequent Tesla critic Bob Lutz. “The key question is how many deposits have they had to refund.”

Tesla, which once promised to be making Model 3s at a 400,000-a-year pace by now, said it delivered 18,440 in the second quarter with an additional 11,166 “in transit.” Musk recently said the third quarter would see double the number delivered. As of the end of June, Tesla reported it had delivered a total of 28,390 of the cars since Model 3 production began in July 2017.

The company said earlier this year it had reservations for 420,000 Model 3s, but it has not updated the number in months and has never revealed refund statistics.

A sales representative at a Southern California Tesla retail store said big fixes in the delivery system are needed, but employees are reeling from constant change and inconsistent messages from management.

“We’ve grown too fast,” said the rep, who asked not to be named to protect his job. The company requires workers to sign nondisclosure agreements that bar them from speaking to the media.

“Every quarter we have a meeting to figure out how we’re going to make delivery work this time, and it never does,” he said. “By the time we actually come up with a plan, the plan is outdated. They change their mind all the time.”

Asked whom he meant by “they,” he said, “Elon.”

“I do believe in the company and its mission, but the execution is very poor,” the employee said.

Like many Tesla employees, he had pinned his hopes on Jon McNeill, the highly regarded head of global sales and service who many considered a potential successor to Musk. McNeill left Tesla in February to become chief operating officer at Lyft. In June, Karim Bousta, head of worldwide service at Tesla, also quit.

Now the executive in charge is Dan Kim, head of global sales and delivery. He joined the company in January after leaving Solera Inc., an automobile insurance data company, where he worked as global head of innovation.

Kim must find fixes for problems such as those encountered by Anandhi Bharadwaj, a professor of information systems and operations management at Emory University in Atlanta.

Bharadwaj said she wired Tesla about $60,000 early Aug. 22 to pay for a Model 3. She was told the car was ready for pickup that day; a few hours later, though, she was told her car wasn’t ready after all but would be delivered Sept. 9. That delivery was canceled as well.

“It was extremely difficult to get hold of anyone, and even when I did, I never got the same story,” Bharadwaj said.

Bharadwaj, whose papers about innovation appear in publications such as the Harvard Business Review, put down a $1,000 deposit in 2016, when Musk was describing the Model 3 as a $35,000 car. Earlier this year, though, he tweeted that Tesla “would lose money and die” if it tried to make a $35,000 car before mass production was humming. The company has focused on producing more expensive, and more profitable, versions. (The floor price on a Model 3 is now $50,000.)

Bharadwaj said she was willingly “upsold” to a more expensive version. She had grown anxious waiting because her three-year lease on a Lexus was about to run out Wednesday. But when she called Lexus, it gave her a 10-day grace period.

“I’m a departing customer but they [Lexus] are still being very nice,” she said. “I’m a new customer at Tesla. You’d expect the red-carpet treatment.”

Late Tuesday, after The Times began making inquiries at her Tesla retail store, the company contacted Bharadwaj to say it had found another vehicle that fit her specifications. She picked it up Wednesday.

The car had a small rip in the rear seat, Bharadwaj said. Her Tesla rep told her she’d need to bring the car in to have the seats replaced. No timeline was given.

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 16, 2018 9:47 am

Like many, I certainly hope Tesla goes out of business. Schadenfreude is one of my main hobbies. But whether it will or is poised to thrive, how fucken stupid do you have to be to shell out full payment – $80k – in advance for a car? Especially one from a company with this much public travail? What’s the upside – that you spent $80k for a car, you received it and it’s still worth close to the purchase price? That’s it? That’s the best possible outcome? I get that if you’re a single, mediocre-looking 37 year old dude making $90k in sales you might grow 1/4” beard to hide your homeliness and drive a Tesla to try to lure a bleach-blond yoga teacher, but couldn’t you get a pussy magnet from a car company with zero chance of going out of business before the car’s a year old?

Dutchman
Dutchman
September 16, 2018 9:56 am

This article should be titled: “The Stupidity of American Consumers.”

I have purchased many new cars in my 52 years of driving. If the car wasn’t on the lot – you pay $500 earnest money, as a promise to buy when the car arrives. THEN the interest on the loan begins – you don’t start paying on a loan when you don’t have the title and the car! These folks are really stupid.

Tesla, what is a Tesla? An electric car – big fucking deal – why rush to purchase? In the story an ‘electrical engineer’ is waiting for his car. Any engineer knows – never purchase ‘serial #1’ – that’s what these cars represent. Do you really want a car that the employees were forced to work 12 hrs a day / 7 days a week, and assemble in tents?

Tesla is competing against GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, Porsche/Audi, Volvo, VW, MB….. all car companies that have be manufacturing autos for over 100 years. There are no reliability statistics for Tesla, what about used car value, trade in value? Cost of repairs after the warranty expires.

Speaking of reliability: Remember Maytag? Some years ago they were the first to introduce front loader washers. Well the washers grew mold in the gaskets. The warranty repairs put Maytag out of business. Whirlpool bought them. Same could happen to Tesla. But I don’t think anyone would want to buy it – maybe the assets (equipment) but not the car.

Tesla is akin to Tulip Mania that struck Holland, many centuries ago.

Currently Tesla buyers represent virtue signaling / gotta have the newest gadget / tree huger’s. I see no logical reason to rush out and buy this car. As we say in the software industry: The Pioneers have arrows in their backs.

Llpoh
Llpoh
September 16, 2018 10:37 am

I know a little about manufacturing. One little thing I know is that trying to fix quality problems after the fact – ie after the product has exited the general manufacturing area – is very hard and a very bad thing to have to do. To have to do that to thousands of cars is, well, catastrophic.

Tesla is toast.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Llpoh
September 16, 2018 12:10 pm

I can tell you that with software – it takes about 5 times longer to fix a bug in the field, than in the ‘shop’ when we are writing and testing the code.

Just think – Tesla continually burns cash. If they had one little problem (like a $1 switch), that they would have to recall all the cars – it would bankrupt them.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
  Llpoh
September 16, 2018 12:27 pm

Greetings,
I know a bit about manufacturing too as I manufacture electronics. I can tell you that sending something out the door that needs repairs is the fastest way to lose money and ruin your reputation. We currently have a failure rate of .25% which means one out of every 400 units is going to fail and have to be repaired within warranty. Oh yeah, that is nothing special as that number is industry standard. I’m sure the automotive industry has a standard too and Tesla, I’m sure, isn’t within standard.

Elon is in way over his head and once people realize that the car they drive doesn’t signal virtue but signals idiocy then things will change for real.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  NickelthroweR
September 16, 2018 5:39 pm

My company has a failure rate under warranty of about a in a thousand, but last year we had zero. Errors that reach the field are devastating to a company.

Carefully examined a Tesla the other day. It is a piece of shit. Anyone examining one carefully can spot shoddy workmanship everywhere.

Tesla is toast.

KaD
KaD
September 16, 2018 11:02 am

Sooner rather than later this house of cards is going to collapse and these idiot who think paying $80K for an electric car is viable are never going to see that money again, or their car. And the ones who did get their cars are going to find there is NO ONE to fix them or the parts even if they wanted to.

Captbill
Captbill
September 16, 2018 11:08 am

People that buy these POS’ are seriously deranged.

RCW
RCW
September 16, 2018 12:12 pm

Nothing new under the sun here except the thinking that building complex cars in tents is viable. Yeah a fool and his/her money are soon parted never changes.

Yancey_Ward
Yancey_Ward
September 16, 2018 12:17 pm

You have to be a complete moron to wire over $60,000 for a car sight unseen. It isn’t surprising to find this is a university professor doing it, either.

Yancey_Ward
Yancey_Ward
September 16, 2018 12:19 pm

And it should be obvious what is going on with the anecdotal stories in that article- Tesla knows the cars they are requesting full payment on aren’t available for the delivery dates, but they are asking for the money up front regardless of this knowledge. Tesla needs the cash immediately for some other purpose. What you are seeing is Ponzi in operation.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
September 16, 2018 12:25 pm

Dead company walking…

Miles Long
Miles Long
September 16, 2018 6:43 pm
Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
September 16, 2018 7:06 pm

I’d rather drive a steam engine