Moscow Accuses Israel Of Using Downed Russian Jet As “Cover” During Syrian Attack

Via ZeroHedge

As more information about the downing overnight of a Russian reconnaissance plane by aging Syrian antiaircraft weapon becomes available, the Russian Defense Ministry has issued a shocking claim that will undoubtedly ratchet up tensions between Russia and Israel. While Russia had previously blamed Israel for the downing of the plane, which resulted in the deaths of 15 Russian servicemen, the MoD is now saying that Israel intended to use the Russian plane as “cover” during the attack.

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According to the Russian military, the plane was shot down while responding to an attack by four Israeli F-16s on Syrian government positions in the coastal town of Lattakia. The attack was the latest of some 200 attacks launched by the Israelis over the past 18 months with the stated aim of preventing Iran from expanding its foothold in war-torn Syria.

Israeli jets flew over the Mediterranean to launch the attack, only giving Russia a minutes’ notice via a shared hotline before commencing the strike. This allowed the Russian military no time to pull its planes and personnel from the line of fire.

Now, a spokesman for the Russian Ministry of Defense is saying that Russia believes the attack was a set-up, with Israeli hoping to use the Russian plane as badly needed cover from Syrian air defenses. Since the Russian plane had much higher profile than the Israeli plane, the Syrian defense systems would naturally latch on to the Il-20.

“The Israeli pilots used the Russian plane as cover and set it up to be targeted by the Syrian air defense forces. As a consequence, the Il-20, which has radar cross-section much larger than the F-16, was shot down by an S-200 system missile,” the statement said.

Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu discussed the incident with his Israeli counterpart, Avigdor Lieberman, on Tuesday.  He conveyed Moscow’s anger about the incident and its blaming of the Israeli military for setting up purportedly setting up the Russian plan to be shot down by aging Syrian air defenses.

Russia said a French Navy frigate, the Auvergne, was in the area of the attack along with the downed Russian Il-20 plane during the Israeli operation.

In a statement, the Russian military accused Syria of not leaving Russian forces enough time to respond to their warning about the attack. A search-and-rescue operation is underway, but so far only body parts have been recovered.

The Russian ministry said the Israelis must have known that the Russian plane was present in the area, but this did not stop them from executing “the provocation.” Israel also failed to warn Russia about the planned operation in advance. The warning came just a minute before the attack started, which “did not leave time to move the Russian plane to a safe area,” the statement said.

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A later update said debris from the downed plane was found some 27 kilometers off the Lattakia coast. The search party collected some body parts, personal possessions of the crew, and fragments of the plane.

Israel did not comment on the reports about the air raid in Syria, which is consistent with its usual policy on such matters. Israeli officials earlier acknowledged hundreds of airstrikes conducted in Syria over the past years. Israel claims its interventions are necessary to fight the Iranian presence in its neighboring country.

Israel’s Embassy in Moscow has refused to comment on Russian Military’s statement on Il-20 crash.

The Russian Il-20 was accidentally shot down by an aging Syrian S-200 antiaircraft missile system during the chaos as Russia scrambled planes to respond to the attack. Russian radar also registered missile launches from the French frigate, but it’s unclear how this factored into the attack, if at all.

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This isn’t the first time that Israel has pushed tensions to the brink of an all-out war as it has repeatedly intervened in Syria despite warnings from Russia and its allies. However, with 15 dead service-members on their hands, Russia has threatened to “respond adequately” to the attack. We now wait to see what Putin will do next.

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Agnes
Agnes
September 18, 2018 7:54 am

We will get this war going one way or another!

Wip
Wip
  Agnes
September 18, 2018 8:04 am

Agnes, why did you change your name? You were an AWACer, correct? Anything you can add to this event, I believe, would be in your wheelhouse of knowledge. I would have never thought that in a theater of war (or whatever they’re involved in over there. Skirmishes?), warring parties would be giving the heads up to each other. Weird…is this a war, a party, a police action, a bar fight, a sandbox dual or my dick is bigger than your dick? I would have bet that Russians have bigger dicks than Israelis. Theres a QOTD for the ladies. Whose dicks are bigger, Russians or Israelis?

Agnes
Agnes
  Wip
September 18, 2018 8:13 am

I’d allowed the moniker to become the message. Proving McLuhan correct.

As for the AWACS experience? Yeah… I have more than 2500 hours logged flying in that surveillance platform. My husband has more than 5000 hours and a shitload of Senior Enlisted Advisor experience from several “theaters.”

We paid attention and I offered some insight here, but JQ emailed me and asked me to stop talking about things I didn’t know fuck about.

So, I stopped.

Talking.

I still know what I know.

USS LIBERTY

Agnes
Agnes
  Agnes
September 18, 2018 9:50 am

I referred to this movie elsewhere, discussing Pingers/Cherries. This interview is stellar, especially considering the evil that invades men at war.

It is also an interesting look at how Hollywood decided to explain all of this to you via Michael J. Fox, aka Alex Keaton.

Anon
Anon
  Agnes
September 18, 2018 4:01 pm

The clip is worth a look see.

Work-In-Progress
Work-In-Progress
  Agnes
September 18, 2018 8:17 pm

I saw that movie. War is cray cray. No, I’ve never been in war but I think I understand the mentality. Humans are wired a certain way and under stress, anything can happen. That is why soldiers don’t face charges for certain things (or am I waaaaay off base?). If we go to WWIII, these things will happen. I’m in no way advocating, I’m simply saying, these things have been going on for thousands of years. Men protect your women.

Agnes
Agnes
  Work-In-Progress
September 18, 2018 11:37 pm

Listen, wip. I’m continuing on with my plan to explore the unfunded liabilities of the Veterans Administration. I can’t give nationwide statistics but I can tell a really powerful story about what kind of money I have seen change hands and I can provide documentation.

Now, I’ve had a couple people here “warn” me that telling this stuff will get me audited, in trouble, badgered, … I’m really not positive what I’m to be afraid of for simply telling this story about how I managed to get my father awarded a shitload of dollars the last couple of years of his life and how I can probably get myself awarded a shitload as well, if I decide I need to do that.

At present time, I don’t think I’ll need to do the disability thing because I think I’m going to heal up and tell the VA to shove off thank you for finally fixing this mess that USAF doctor did to me.

However, as an honorably discharged veteran, I am ENTITLED. A big giant world that means someone else needs to pay.

So, WIP, my story continues, with or without your interest. I have found others who are very interested. And since no one here pays attention to me any more except you on the odd day, I will share enough of it with you to keep you fired up about how very much of your tax monies are thrown away for control of large voting blocks of sheeple.

Entitled.

Agnes
Agnes
  Wip
September 18, 2018 11:09 pm

I was going through some memorabilia today and came across this image of one of my former colleagues in AWACS. Scott was a really good person, as were Chuck and BK and Mark and all the other crewdogs that lost their lives September 1995. What a tragedy caused by complacency.

If tadpoles could do math one might see there is a 23 year lapse from the AWACS plane crashing in Alaska and now. Now, you have to realize the underlying meaning of everything that happens at or around Tinker AFB, Oklahoma. Twenty-three skidoo!

Seriously, I was indeed putting together some images for a story I’m sending off to people who love all things AWACS. I expect it will get better reception than here, but here has been an excellent place to refine my story and learn to ignore the critics.

This airplane crash occurred while I was volunteering to help sort and clear records that had been boxed up and delivered to the man who ran the Veteran’s Administration’s Vocational Rehabilitation Office at Oklahoma City. He had a really big mess and I’d just separated from the USAF, having been Do Not Fly’d (DNIF’d) permanently. From about May 1995 until September 1995, I helped rebuild a lot of people’s folders that had been damaged when the Murrah Building was bombed by Timothy McVeigh in a moving truck. I learned a lot about how the Veterans Administration worked that summer.

Then, after several comrades died in the Alaska crash, I told Woodrow I had to take a break from volunteering. It was the first in what would become a long string of crises and catastrophes that end up being part and parcel of what life is made of.

So, without further ado…I salute you Yukla 27!

http://veterantributes.org/TributeDetail.php?recordID=2258

Panzerlied
Panzerlied
  Agnes
September 18, 2018 2:31 pm

Does anyone here recall who the guest of honor was at the last Victory day parade in Russia. You know, the satanic looking demon whose name rhymes with Jew? Forget it, there will never be a finger raised against the precious little pariah state of Israhell, as long as Putin is calling the shots. All the world’s a stage and we’re just the idiots who are watching the predetermined events unfold. Putin is owned completely by the global Zionists, as is our kosher president, as well. Never thought I’d say that, but I must face facts and resign myself to watching the Negro Felon League.

Wip
Wip
September 18, 2018 8:00 am

What does Putin usually do next?

Anon Braintrust
Anon Braintrust
  Wip
September 18, 2018 8:29 am

Bomb Is-Ra-El settlements.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anon Braintrust
September 18, 2018 2:18 pm

He does fuck all as he has being doing for years.

Agnes
Agnes
  Wip
September 18, 2018 8:52 am

Putin is in the cat bird seat. He holds all the cards, handed to him by Israel.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Agnes
September 18, 2018 2:19 pm

Bollocks – all Putin does is condemn and accuse but he does fuck all. His ambassador to Lebanon came out with his bullshit about targetting missile launch sites- What happend? fuck all – like always . Putin got no bollocks

Stucky
Stucky
September 18, 2018 11:28 am

In today’s “USA Today” (link below) is an article about the USAF.

The USAF is asking for …… “74 [additional] combat squadrons to the group of 312, an increase of almost 24 percent. The squadron is the basic fighting unit of the Air Force. A fighter squadron may contain 18 to 24 aircraft.”

Soooooo ….. about 1,500 more airplanes!!!

At what cost? Supposedly $30 Billion. But, we all know that’s bullshit. It will be double, triple, or more when it’s finally said and done.

Why? Because of Russian and Chinese aggression! Now, a smart person would run to the history books and find out how many times the Russians and Chinese have crossed either the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans to invade America … or any other Western Hemisphere nation. Hey, I looked it up for ya! The answer is, ZERO.

So, the real answer must be something else. And that answer is; Russia and China are the only countries in the world who can stand up to America’s goal for Total Global Dominance. Eventually, we will be forced to try to kill them all …. hence, 1500 more planes. (BTW, the USAF budget is larger than China’s TOTAL military budget.)

If you don’t hate what America has become, and is becoming, then it must be because you’re retarded.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/17/air-force-hundreds-planes-40-000-troops-confront-china/1306013002/

Anon
Anon
  Stucky
September 18, 2018 4:04 pm

Hey is your head stuck up yore butt? I’ve been trying to get you to compare the USS Liberty attack with the recent Israel attack on Russia.

You big Lithuanian looking Lumberjack dude from Jersey.

I’ll be right back with the link. BW stopped by.

Remembering USS Liberty: When Israel attacked America

Stucky
Stucky
September 18, 2018 11:42 am

There are 7 good articles about this on russia insider.

https://russia-insider.com/en

I was sort of semi-hoping that Putin would wipe out some Israeli Joofuks in retaliation.

However, he blames it all on “a chain of tragic accidents”. Ha! Tragic accident??? Is mighty Putin afraid of Joofuks now?? A lot of commentary — around half — is highly critical of Putin’s response. From hero to goat in one day …. politics is a tough business in every country.

unit472
unit472
September 18, 2018 11:48 am

I’ve no doubt the Israeli Air Force is dying to get a look at Russia’s S-400 radar so coming in behind a Russian recon plane would be a good way to get the Russians to turn their system on. Of course the Israeli’s didn’t take into account Syrian/Russian stupidity.

Marian
Marian
September 18, 2018 11:59 am

Putin will do nothing here. After all those years in power, he still can’t cross the Jew. It’s that money talks thing. And being over 3/4s of the Soviet apparatchik, the chosen have lots of Russian wealth.

However my question is how much b.s. will the Russian military put up with til they have their oops moment with Israel? Maybe then the Syrians have will get the fancy Russian anti missile defense.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Marian
September 18, 2018 12:05 pm

We keep poking the bear, isreal keeps poking the bear, even Turkey has gotten in on the poking and the bear still does nothing.

I’m beginning to think it’s all theater to keep us distracted from what is really going on.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mary Christine
September 18, 2018 8:46 pm

Mary C..
You’re right.

Agnes
Agnes
  Fleabaggs
September 19, 2018 10:07 am

This was a fascinating link posted to stuckenheimer elsewhere. This place is a treasure trove if you know how to look.

The MKULTRA stuff comes up again and again and again.

http://mileswmathis.com/unabomber.pdf