The eTron Con

Guest Post by Eric Peters

Some inside baseball that’s relevant to the bum’s rush (Uncle’s rush, really) toward an Electric Car Future:

They don’t send me electric cars to test drive. Not one. Not yet. Probably not ever.

They send me everything else – except for GM, which stopped sending me cars to punish me for expressing un-PC opinions about the company’s leg-humping of “diversity” (see here for more about that). But the point is, GM  did send me cars and could send me cars.

Just not electric cars.

Why is this relevant to the EV discussion?

Because it demonstrates badly how gimped EVs are – and I figured someone (it won’t be the “consumer” press) ought to tell you about it, in case you’ve taken too many pulls on the electric car crack pipe and actually bought into the EV hype, which is potentially much more dangerous to your wallet than a time share or a Pampered Chef distributorship.

Okay, gather ’round.

My place in SW Virginia is about 200 miles from the central press car hub for the northeast region, which is located in the Northern Virginia/Maryland suburbs. Press cars are brand-new cars put into a special fleet for distribution to car journalists like me. A driver who works for the fleet management company drives a new car to a journalist’s house or place of business, drops it off for him to test out for a week and then comes back the following week to pick it up.

It’s no problem for the delivery drivers who work for the press fleets to make the trip from there to here in 3-4 hours, traffic depending. Usually doable on a full tank but if it’s a muscle car or some such, no problem. Just refuel and back on the road.

No worries.

Unless it’s an EV.

Now the driver’s got a worry.

Because an electric car can’t make it from there to here without stopping at least once – for a minimum of 30-45 minutes each time and that’s the best-case scenario, assuming the driver can find a “fast” (high voltage) charger. These are still hard to find – and if one can’t be found, then it’s an overnight stay for the driver and what was a 3-4 drive becomes a two-day ordeal.

Two days’ pay for the driver, plus the cost of a hotel for the overnight stay. The EV will not have burned any gas during the odyssey but a lot money and time will have been burned through.

The other option is a flatbed truck – which could get the EV here in a few hours – but that gets into money (and time) too. And as hard as it may be for government parasites to grok, people who can’t legally just steal money to support their activities have to think about what things cost and operate within certain economic parameters.

So, no EVs for me – or any other car journalist outside the orbit of an EV’s range on a single charge. Which means only urban/suburban journalists within about 50 miles of the press car hub get EVs to test drive.

This accounts for the vacuous, dishonest coverage of EVs. All you need to do is flip it around to see what I mean.

Imagine Consumer Reports or some other Pravda-like organ of the establishment car press got a non-electric car to evaluate and it conked out after 100 miles (or even 200 miles) and had to be hooked to a special and hard-to-find apparatus for at least 30-45 minutes before they could it back on the road again.

Imagine this car’s performance noticeably deteriorated in cold weather; that it could not be refueled in very cold weather – unless an enclosed/heated garage could be found. That running the car’s heater and headlights had the same effect on the car’s range as a hole in the gas tank of a non-EV would have.

The resulting coverage would make what happened to Ford/Firestone back in the ’90s seem like a minor bitch about the location of the cupholders. There would be open talk of gyps and cons and general preposterousness. A car that can’t make a 200 mile trip without a major (and possibly overnight) pit stop?

That is something even a Yugo could do.

And the Yugo didn’t cost what an EV costs.

But you’ll not be told such tales by the Pravda-like car press because the only car press that gets EVs is the urban/suburban press and that is very much like expecting to get political coverage that’s even-handed toward Trump out of a Latinix transqueer gender studies professor at Berkeley.

Which brings to me to the worshipful coverage given the 2019 Audi eTron – which is Audi’s first all-electric crossover SUV and the tip of the spear – so to speak – of what is on deck to become an LBGTSUV EV juggernaut.

It is a very weird juggernaut in that there is almost no market demand for these EVs, which in total comprise barely 1 percent of all new cars sold, almost all of them in urban areas of California and Arizona (where, not coincidentally, it is warm all year long). Yet Audi (and VW) as well as Mercedes and BMW are practically tripping over each other to get as many EVs into production as possible.

Who do they think is going to be buying them?

The eTron will sticker for $75,000 – to start. A “well-equipped” model will sticker for $86,700.

Keep in mind that Audi will be competing (if that’s the right word) for buyers in that 1 percent bracket with all the other hawkers of similarly high-dollar EVs. If the market for these EVs doesn’t somehow come into existence after the fact, there is is going to be much more than Hell to pay. It could mean the collapse of several big-name car brands, who’ve “invested” (abuse of language, hence air quotes) in vehicles for which there is no market, in the desperate hope that one will come into being.

Well, maybe not so desperate.

It is not a coincidence that the biggest bum’s rushers toward the Electric Car Future are German companies – Audi/VW, BMW and Benz. It is because in the home market there are fatwas even more severe and lunatic than those in force here. Fatwas which forbid cars that aren’t capable of  at least part-time all-electric operation from even being used in certain “protected” areas, such as urban areas. These areas are being expanded upon. It is an artificial – government created – “incentive” to build EVs, though no one seems to ask aloud what “incentive” buyers will have to purchase them if they can’t afford them.

It doesn’t matter. The car companies won’t contradict the now-sacrosanct EV orthodoxy, even if it ultimately kills them. The reason being that management isn’t going to suffer. The fish rots from the head down, but in the case of huge corporations, the heads are extremely well-paid even if the company rots under their watch, so what do they care? Most of them are not “car guys.”

They are money guys (and gals).

And so long as the getting’s good, they’ll be getting – and then, going.

Meanwhile, the Pravda press will continue on its knees, supplicating the EV god.

And outliers like me will sit back and watch the show.

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Agnes
Agnes
September 20, 2018 4:56 pm

Why does it have to be this way? Why did we accept the seat belt laws? Then the insurance laws? Then emissions standards and et cetera and so on?

Why can’t the consumer decide what they want?

James
James
  Agnes
September 20, 2018 6:17 pm

Why,tis actually very simple,the majority of public has not fought back and started if needed shooting.This country was born from a tax revolt(with guns)for a very small percentage of taxes paid to Britain in comparison to now paid to local/state and fed entities..

To really answer the reason why honestly,well,we are a bunch of cowards who feel why rock the boat as we have a decent for most part standard of living(live like kings compared to majority of world).

As times become more challenging economically will be more with the nothing to lose /everything to gain mentality,till then,folks put up with bull shit.m

capt' fast
capt' fast
September 20, 2018 5:09 pm

so is the pickup truck not covered by the fatwa of ev rules? is this part of the answer to the question of why the kids at Ford decided to nix their domestic car production?
My nephew had a accord hybrid which worked phenomenally well under urban and highway conditions. a nicely equipped vehicle that was comfortable to ride in and never ever left him at the side of the road. having sipped at the well of EV goodness, he traded it in on a chevy bolt which still filled the void in the transportation hole he throws money into. and yes, now he worries about the EV range issues. sometimes i worry about him. he has the habit of trading out cars like others breath while running in a marathon. I have called BS on this automotive move on his part. still waiting to see what the results will be for his family. he does a great job of keeping the maintenance up on all the vehicles he has owned, from jeeps to benzs.
time will tell.

blending kittens
blending kittens
September 20, 2018 5:48 pm

would you go gay for a gold-shitting leprechaun?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  blending kittens
September 20, 2018 10:55 pm

For how long?

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Iska Waran
September 21, 2018 12:26 am

This site is beginning to worry me.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
September 20, 2018 7:53 pm

I know this is a bit off topic, but thanks, but I’ll just keep my 2012 Plug-in Prius I bought 2nd hand for $18,800, minus $9,500 for my 15 year old trade in I bought used for $8,600. It was one of those once-in-a-lifetime “air quality” deals; you give the gov your junker (to be crushed) and they give you a wad of cash. So my net not including tax/license was $9,300 for a 3 year old 1 owner car with 56k on the clock. Her MPG constantly amazes me; even w/o the EV only miles from plugging in, if I’m not in a hurry and use just a bit of care, she can get 70 mpg. And for consumer missions I can mostly EV it and the ICE doesn’t even kick on. And I don’t even notice the electric used to charge her up.
People are successfully using Prius’s as taxicabs and word on Priuschat is they’ll pass 300k with nothing major if you just change the oil every 10k and brakes at maybe 90k. And they’re so common here in SoCal you can swap out the battery pack if it goes tits up for around $650.

James
James
  WestcoastDeplorable
September 20, 2018 8:13 pm

“Air quality deals?!”Call it what it was,corporate welfare funded by the taxpayers.

Rather, Not
Rather, Not
September 20, 2018 7:59 pm

I am excited about the EV future. However, it doesn’t look like the Musks think it will. The EV I want:

Full size pickup frame/shell. SUV and van body options

4 massively powerful electric motors (and recovery) brakes. 125-150 hp each. At least 500, maybe 600 hp or even 700 hp total. Maybe more. Electric motors are kinda cheap once mass produced. Even the Tesla cars have potentially that many horses.

Small highly efficient 4 banger optimized to run at a particular RPM (rather than be reasonably efficient across a wide range from low and high RPMs) connected to a generator, not a transmission. No issues killing your battery to heat the cab. Most people don’t realize how much fuel efficiency is given up to be ‘reasonably efficient’ at both 10 mph and 85 mph.

Battery probably about the size of what is in a Tesla. But it isn’t 200 miles, it is probably more like 30-50 on electric-only. The battery is:
1. short term, modest speed, local only trips all electric and back to the home plug
2. for any serious driving, a buffer. The battery meets the needs between a steady, efficiency optimized and consistent generator, and the intermittent needs of driving

Charge controller.

So when driving the engine/generator is running, it is putting out ~150hp. (doing hp rather than kw for familiarity to most). When the driving needs 100 hp, the battery is modestly charging. When the driving needs 200hp, the battery is modestly discharging. That should cover almost all driving, and be gentle on the battery (long battery life). If the battery is fully charged, and the driving is modest (you’re not towing a load, local, not highway speeds) the engine can run intermittently.

When you need 600hp, ~150 is from the engine, ~450 from the battery discharging at max rate. Battery is scaled to handle that without damaging them and sustain that for modest periods. No one needs 600 hp consistently.

Most people only need 600hp that one time they were accelerating up an interstate on ramp, up a steep grade in the Rockies, while towing a large boat. And if you do stop for gas and a snack after really pushing your battery hard while needing 600hp for a while, the engine can be recharging your battery the whole time without charging infrastructure.

Now I have a big ol’ truck, massive power and towing, acceleration that could hang with most sports cars, with really good gas mileage, probably mid to maybe even high 20’s or low 30’s mpg in actual usage (where some of it comes from the plug, some from the gas). Double the mpg of full size trucks, with far better performance specs, for modestly more money, which you actually can get back with significant gas savings.

While you’re changing the oil in the engine-generator, you’re not maintaining a transmission and drive-train.

I can’t wait for that electric future. A little confused as to why that isn’t here yet. It should be. There really aren’t technical obstacles, only recognition from the likes of Ford or GM that the market would go absolutely nuts for it.

I don’t understand how Ford and GM can understand marketing pretty expensive trucks to men on performance basis, without understanding that electric is the way to get that performance to the next level. Blow away anything they can do on a gas/diesel drive train on both power AND efficiency.

You can’t (practically) have an extra 300 hp of gas engine sitting there. You can have extra 300 hp of electric motors sitting there mostly unused. Electric isn’t for girly men in skinny jeans driving priuses; electric is for manly men, driving manly trucks, doing manly things like building power plants, or drilling oil wells. Electric isn’t for saving 18 cents per day on your commute in your tiny car so you can feel good about the environment; electric is for hundreds and hundreds of more horsepower than you need! (while the gas savings justify the modestly higher upfront cost and makes it practical)

Easy to add a box van version for small commercial. Big SUV version for soccer moms. And the pickup for men with callouses on their hands.

Rather Not

PS No issues getting to a reviewer 200 miles away.

James
James
  Rather, Not
September 20, 2018 8:15 pm

Hmmm….,as long as 1 ton axels/heavy duty transfer case and say minumum 33′ tires for clearance I might be interested in said truck,depends on how easy to maintain,till then stick with me 70’s 4×4’s that have a carbon footprint that can be seen with naked eye from planet Mars.

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
September 20, 2018 8:20 pm

I wonder if it makes any sense (from a prepper-sort of view) to convert a nice little gas truck to propane, and lay in a few thousand gallons of it. Paired with a small genset, and maybe a little utility tractor similarly modified, it might make sense. So tell me, is this a ridiculous, stupid, unbelievably expensive idea. As I am ignorant of the cost and shelf life of LP. I really have no idea.

jamesthedeplorablewanderer
jamesthedeplorablewanderer
  Brian Reilly
September 22, 2018 1:34 am

LP has an infinite shelf life, properly stored. You can buy a cylinder full and put it on a (cool) shelf in your house; it will never leak, always hold what it was filled with, be ready at a moment’s notice to fuel your generator / gas grill / propane torch / whatever. Cost? bought in bulk you can get it for a dollar a gallon some places, more others, check your local suppliers.
For your genset you could buy a typical Honda or Coleman, or look into Capstone Turbine (CPST). Theirs are more industrial-sized, but they make some relatively small ones. Also, you can rig it to provide your whole house with power and heat – maybe more or maybe less than electric, but if you are MAKING your own electricity you don’t need to worry about price increases (other than LP prices), from your local electric utility or anyone else.