Fuck the Paul Harvey “God made a farmer” routine. That old shtick is trotted out every so often. This isn’t 1890 with Mah and Pah Kettle milking the cow at 5am.
Those fuckers are taking subsidies hand over fist. Wheeling around in F450 Platinums and Sierras. Going on the annual deep sea fishing trip to Baja. Throwing a fit when they hear that people get upset when they hire illegal aliens.
Once again, fuck farmers. Support Monsanto and ADM instead.
People’s impression of farmers is warped by those mid-80’s Farm-Aid concerts by Willie Nelson. You mean that era when commodities went bust and stupid ass farmers were up to their eyeballs in expensive equipment that they bought on credit? Fuck farmers. God made accountants too.
I guess some dumbasses on this site haven’t read any Hardscrabble Farmer articles or the commentary of many other small farmers. I love pompous assholes bloviating like they know it all. Fuck assholes.
I didn’t just pull what I said out of thin air. Facts can be mean. We set up these totems and icons in our society (like the military guys “securin’ the homeland”) and most people think it’s so. It’s not.
I’m not talking about preppers with 10 acres of plum trees. I’m talking about actual farmers with a couple million in out-buildings.
The youtube isn’t talking about conglomerate farms. They didn’t even exist when Paul Harvey produced that piece. As TC points out, there are thousands of farmers who don’t do what you painted with a broad brush. You didn’t distinguish in your comment.
I’m sure you aren’t a hypocrite and refuse to eat any meat or produce from corporate farms.
Do you consider what Hardscrabble Farmer produces organic? Is he a scam?
I have three small farms surrounding my house. They sell their produce, eggs and meat from a roadside booth. Is that a scam? They sell it on the honor system. You take what you want and put the money in their money box. What scum these farmers are.
@ JR – I think you’re trolling us, but, what the hell? I’ll bite. You say you can’t tell the difference between a farm fresh egg and a Denny’s egg. If that’s literally true, it’s because you’ve never paid attention. I’ve had backyard chickens for over 5 years now. There’s a world of difference.
Go buy a dozen farmer’s eggs and go buy a dozen grocery store eggs. Crack one of each in a bowl, side-by-side, and observe them.
The first thing you’re going to notice is the color of the yolk. The backyard egg will be bright orange, like the color of a Tupperware lid. The store bought egg will be a pale yellow color, like the color of a yellow Crayola crayon.
And that, of course, is before you ever taste them.
Timbo, with each passing year I forget something that was true in the past. Orange juice was not acidic, it was sweet. Eggs were not bright yellow and according to T4C the sun was not white. Didn’t America used to be free?
The egg on the left is what you are probably used to eating. It comes from an industrial model factory farm. The chickens that produce these eggs are fed a single type of feed that is made up of GMO corn/GMO soybean plus an admixture of fillers including wood pulp, ground feathers, as well desiccated and temperature treated manures. They do not go outdoors during their lifetime.
The egg on the right is the kind we eat. The chicken spends it’s entire life with true free range lifestyle and go into the coop at night for protection from predators or to lay, but that’s about it. They feed on insects, larvae, worms, seed heads, grasses and whatever wastes are left behind from feeding the pigs.
There is almost no comparison when it comes to flavor. Like the difference between Velveeta and Brie. I don’t have anything to prove that there’s a difference health-wise, but you seem like a smart guy, what do you think?
JR,while I agree on your view of corporate farms and the corporate welfare(ethanol scam ect.).Feel you burned your tongue on a skillet and fried taste buds if you cannot taste the difference between raw milk/eggs from chickens that to a large degree free range on bugs ect and your boiling product/hormone factories,keep your monsanto crap to your farms though.
Raw milk is dangerous. Pathogens literally swimming in the stuff like Mexican kids at a water park. Would never touch it. Louis Pasteur is owed a debt of gratitude.
Fine,yet folks for 1000’s of years have had raw milk and benefited.You want your milk boiled tis fine,as long as you do not raid farms with swat to stop me from buying raw milk,then,we have a problem.
“…raw milk is dangerous.” So are cars, electricity, water, gravity and knives but I bet you use them every day.
You do understand that the entire planet is awash in pathogens, bacteria, viruses and germs? There is no surface, material or airspace that is free from them and the only way our species could survive is by the development of antibodies by our autoimmune system.
There is no avoidance. The most dangerous pathogens found on Earth develop in hospitals because of their use of antibacterials and antibiotics.
You must be aware of this. Or not.
Raw milk is far healthier than pasteurized milk, easier to digest, boosts immunity, increases bone density, builds lean muscle mass, improves nutrient absorption and reduces allergies. Last year the CDC reported 48 million food borne illnesses, raw milk was responsible for 42.
You can’t educate a moron with a sub 80 IQ. He is oblivious to facts and reason. He’s like the feminazi social justice warriors, operating on emotion and hate.
Actually heating milk to the high heat needed in the pasteurization process changes the size of the molecules at which point it becomes injurious to the body. Also the heat kills the enzymes and much of the nutritive value.
Excellent, HF. You get 100 points for the post … and 10,000 points for trying to reason with a massively mutated moran.
To add to your thoughts …. let’s not forget that the human body is TEEMING with microbes. In fact, without microbes, we would not be alive.
=====
“A “standard man” weighing 70 kilograms has roughly the same number of bacteria and human cells in his body, researchers report online January 6 at bioRxiv.org. This average guy would be composed of about 40 trillion bacteria and 30 trillion human cells, calculate researchers at the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel, and the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto. That’s a ratio of 1.3 bacteria to every one human cell.”
Don’t blame JR Wirthless, he is a victim of the pesticides/poisons and genetic modification of what he eats. He believes an egg with a ultra pale yolk offers the same nutrition as the egg with the dark orangey-yellow yoke. Even better, he believes radiation is good for you and fails to understand that radiating food renders it void of enzymes and nutrition. What a maroon.
Let this poor creature be a lesson to all as to the danger of non-wholesome food and pesticides.
Most of the farmers I know struggle to make it from year to year. Every one of them has a “day job” in addition to running the farm just to make ends meet. They get out there and do the work themselves, with family members and occasionally neighbors as needed to get shit done. None has ever hired an illegal. I remember growing up having my grandfather show me his tax return of $9,000 of income for that year raising cattle and selling some dairy. They buy used equipment and run it, fix it, run it, fix it, year after year until it’s worn the fuck out. They throw almost nothing away, especially food. The chickens, dogs and cats get anything (which isn’t much) the family won’t eat. I do know one guy taking advantage of the system who grows tobacco – the US Govt pays him not to grow it, or rather sell it, on the US market, so he sells it on the international market instead. None of these guys are “living large” as you describe it.
Yep I’m one of them damn farmers, I drive a fancy Chevy Silverado four wheel drive with carpet on the floor and air conditioning and a am/fm cassette radio and a title dated 1978. The I get in my big ole 1980 combine and listen to Rush on the radio or my 1982 tractor. Do you know how long you have to sit in a tractor cab at 4.5 mph to get 18,000 hours on the meter? Not complaining just trying to make a living growing grain and hay. Right now it’s 8:30 PM and the tractor and drill are still going planting fall crop and I just got done loading a truck with hay. No I don’t hire illegals, just me and my 3 teenage sons. Might just take 2 weeks off this winter, but it won’t be on a beach in Mexico.
G,if frame and body not rusted out(can handle dents)you feel you want a new truck get in touch,I rebuild older 4×4’s as a hobby,would make said work truck a rebuilt toy,but,tis a nice retirement for a older truck!
Saving that for Wip’s S-10 monster truck build!sI would probably go with a crate 383/Doug Nash 5 speed/built axels and transfer(new process203),well,ya get the idea.
“Fuck farmers. God made accountants too.” I hear a lot of people say, this is America, we don’t want people going hungry. And I tell them sure we do. It’s what motivates them to work. Nothing wrong with accountants. But they don’t keep the grocery store stocked.
I think you’ve got corporate agriculture confused with farming. One is a form of strip mining that measures its success based on units per acre. The people who run those kinds of operations aren’t farmers, they are project managers or floor supervisors. They work with things that no farmer would ever use like herbicides and pesticides, they poison the soil and the water – the antithesis of adding tilth, of good husbandry. A farmer’s purpose is to improve he quality of the holding he lives on, to raise healthy clear-eyed children, to be independent and resourceful and to provide his own sustenance from the land he occupies. It isn’t about profits and losses anymore than bookkeeping is about feathers and soil. The price that the farmer is paid is in better health, deeper sleep, liberty and self-reliance, and a superior working environment. Money comes and money goes and people who spend their entire lives fixated on that surreal goalpost are almost always the most miserable, mentally unbalanced and spiritually corrupted people you will ever encounter. I should know, I’ve done both.
The very act of industrializing a natural process is akin to saying a money launderer is an accountant- they do the very opposite. One looks to balance a ledger and to demonstrate profits and losses for an accurate record while the other seeks to obfuscate the truth through complex rigging of facts using bogus data.
A guy who beats someone to death with hammer isn’t a carpenter, c’est nes pas?
And if you can’t tell the difference between an egg you get at Denny’s and one from a free ranging chicken then you probably wouldn’t notice the difference between a beautiful woman and a transvestite.
I don’t know about that. No one here has refuted a word I’ve said. They just throw tantrums….like some Antifa Portlander. Maybe the right is closer to the left than we think. All emotive people educated by public schools to follow their emotions over reason.
You’re right about one thing, without even saying it. Few people can stand a purely reasonable person.
Your drivel didn’t need to be refuted because it was worthless diarrhea of the mouth. You were crushed like a bug on a windshield, but your ego is too big to admit you were wrong. That says a lot about a person. You revealed yourself on this thread. Your comments will be taken with a grain of salt by readers henceforth. Have a nice day.
I think someone has a damaged ego here, and it’s not me. I’m just stating facts. I don’t have money riding on the outcome of this conversation. Maybe you lost money in the 1980’s farm bust and you’re still upset. Who knows.
The only thing this entire conversation proves is that those on the right of the spectrum can be just as narrow and dense as the ones on the left. The same people who were conned early on by Glenn Beck when he was on Fox News. Someone with the title “administrator” has to be the smartest guy in the room right?…..crickets chirping.
You haven’t stated one fact in your inane comments. You are really reaching with your losing money blather. I don’t give a flying fuck about farm busts. Keep throwing around red herrings like Glenn Beck to deflect the focus away from your idiocy. I notice you didn’t address Hardscrabble’s comment because his experience and intellect reveal you to be an arrogant douchebag with no cogent argument supporting your blitheringly stupid comments.
I may not be the smartest guy in the room, but we now know who the new TBP village Idiot is. Can you guess?
I never read the Hardscrabble Farmer post because he’s a bloviating idiot. I scroll past him every time. Almost as useless and uninteresting as that Maggie woman. If he was Z-Man I would have read it.
Is that a picture of him?
This country has more AG perks than you can shake a stick at. Literally billions in USDA direct subsidies, subsidized AG loans, subsidized AG insurance. If you’re “hard scrabble” after all of that maybe you should be a mechanic instead. There are all kinds of “hardscrabble” people in this world. I’m sure some guy just got home from work at the Greyhound station. Why should the word “farmer” make a difference?
Fuck self righteousness and putting certain jobs on pedestals. A job is a job, some are hard some are easier. Some are filthy and some aren’t. I have a friend who has to work in the San Francisco sewer system, filled with rats, roaches, used condoms and hypodermic needles. He earns every penny. I work an air conditioned office building, yet some days I would rather deal with rats in a sewer than the ones who walk on two legs into my office.
I’m sure you’re a top executive in your air conditioned office with your soaring intellect. I would have put my money on you being a fry cook at McDonalds on your final written warning for burning the fries. I really should require an IQ test for commenters to weed out retards like yourself before they pollute the site with some of the dumbest comments in the history of this site. I take shits with more substance than your comments.
But you keep responding so everyone can understand why the country is on the road to collapse. With the ignorant masses as ignorant as yourself, we’re truly doomed. You have solidified your position as Village Idiot. BB is going to be disappointed.
You’re the one who keeps posting stupid pictures as a defense mechanism. I dare you to make this conversation its own post on your site. You won’t, because you lost the argument. I’ll put my IQ against yours or anyone here any day. Z-Man would give me a run for my money. That’s about it.
Oh, the irony, it burns. I excoriated Maggie for welcoming JR Wirthless. I thought he was a dipshit from the gitgo. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Maggie, you have to come back and clean your mess, hon.
“I never read the Hardscrabble Farmer post because he’s a bloviating idiot.” ——— JR Wirthless
That’s a first! Literally. We LOVE our Farmer!!!!!!!!!!!
You? Not at all. You’re a big nothing burger. You’ve just made another enemy (me), and a GUARANTEE that I’ll vote down everything you write from now until the cows come home.
“And if you can’t tell the difference between an egg you get at Denny’s and one from a free ranging chicken then you probably wouldn’t notice the difference between a beautiful woman and a transvestite.” That one is tough to refute.
beating someone to death with a hammer a carpenter does not make,that said,as a carpenter have thought many times about hitting folks with me hammer and do have a framer that goes by the factory moniker”Death Stick”,just saying.I can say with pride have killed no coworkers/customers and none have as of yet hit me with a hammer though a few times I probably deserved it.
Reminds me of when I worked in a factory building mining muckers (loaders). One of the engineers was out in my bay working with me, which we had an unwritten law against. Engineers weren’t allowed to touch tools. So he had this really stupid idea that he was trying to prove was viable and he had me making tacks with the welder while he smacked them with the single jack (short handled 4 lb sledge) to make the 2 pieces of steel fit tight together. He’d irritated the ever living crap out of me so to get even I was putting the tacks in corners where the hammer couldn’t go and he wasn’t able to smack them down. He got frustrated and threw the hammer on the floor which was asphalt and it bounced up and hit me in the knee. I went into a rage and picked up the hammer and chased him out of the building with it. That boy was running like a deer. As he was going out the door the hammer whistled past his right ear close enough I know he heard it. Lucky my aim was off by a hair or I’d probably still be in prison.
Kad,thanks for depressing but useful link,hope your garden didn’t get blighted!
robert h siddell jr
October 13, 2018 7:37 am
JR disparaged Farmers & Ranchers, Soldiers and Sailors; we are like Medical Personnel, Churchmen, Truckers & Trainmen, Repairmen & Laborers, Linemen, Miners, Teachers, Cooks, Retailers, Fishermen. It’d be a tough life without us.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Only farmers and the military did I disparage. Stop throwing in other trades to make your point. Linemen work the hardest of all of them, too bad they blow it all on whores.
Teachers mostly suck too by the way, I’m glad you brought that up.
I really don’t care if someone has disdain for farming, to each his own. But it’s the kind of rank hypocrisy that can’t be hidden when you denigrate the very thing that sustains you, biting the hand and all that jazz that makes your commentary so enlightening. We’re dirt people in flyover country and you’re what, exactly?
You eat, right? Every morsel that you consume comes from the sweat, planning, investment and labor of another- you couldn’t survive without them and yet you mouth off like a petulant tween angry at his Mommy because she took away your X-box.
Who’s a cheeky little monkey? You are.
Llpoh
October 14, 2018 6:16 pm
Sorry I missed this thread! Damn, Admin and the monkeys laid a world class ass beating on JR. It warms the cickles of my shriveled up heart to see such action!
I love this story.
People love home-spun nonsense. That’s why they played this shtick on a super bowl commercial. As sweet as apple pie. Mock apple pie.
What?
And I’m the one who lost this debate?
Fuck the Paul Harvey “God made a farmer” routine. That old shtick is trotted out every so often. This isn’t 1890 with Mah and Pah Kettle milking the cow at 5am.
Those fuckers are taking subsidies hand over fist. Wheeling around in F450 Platinums and Sierras. Going on the annual deep sea fishing trip to Baja. Throwing a fit when they hear that people get upset when they hire illegal aliens.
Once again, fuck farmers. Support Monsanto and ADM instead.
People’s impression of farmers is warped by those mid-80’s Farm-Aid concerts by Willie Nelson. You mean that era when commodities went bust and stupid ass farmers were up to their eyeballs in expensive equipment that they bought on credit? Fuck farmers. God made accountants too.
I guess some dumbasses on this site haven’t read any Hardscrabble Farmer articles or the commentary of many other small farmers. I love pompous assholes bloviating like they know it all. Fuck assholes.
I didn’t just pull what I said out of thin air. Facts can be mean. We set up these totems and icons in our society (like the military guys “securin’ the homeland”) and most people think it’s so. It’s not.
I’m not talking about preppers with 10 acres of plum trees. I’m talking about actual farmers with a couple million in out-buildings.
The youtube isn’t talking about conglomerate farms. They didn’t even exist when Paul Harvey produced that piece. As TC points out, there are thousands of farmers who don’t do what you painted with a broad brush. You didn’t distinguish in your comment.
I’m sure you aren’t a hypocrite and refuse to eat any meat or produce from corporate farms.
Well, I’ve never touched organic produce. That’s a plus. Organic is a scam.
So you only buy conglomerate farm output. Got it.
Do you consider what Hardscrabble Farmer produces organic? Is he a scam?
I have three small farms surrounding my house. They sell their produce, eggs and meat from a roadside booth. Is that a scam? They sell it on the honor system. You take what you want and put the money in their money box. What scum these farmers are.
To each his own. Organic = diarrhea. As a matter of fact I wish more food was irradiated for pathogen control.
Also, I just have a hard time telling the difference between a “farm fresh egg” and a “Denny’s grand slam egg.” It’s psychological. An egg is an egg.
Big Macs are irradiated. I actually think your brain has been irradiated. Some people just enjoy hating everything and everyone. Must be gratifying.
Absolutely not. How can one love the people he loves without hating the people he hates? I’m no fence sitter.
@ JR – I think you’re trolling us, but, what the hell? I’ll bite. You say you can’t tell the difference between a farm fresh egg and a Denny’s egg. If that’s literally true, it’s because you’ve never paid attention. I’ve had backyard chickens for over 5 years now. There’s a world of difference.
Go buy a dozen farmer’s eggs and go buy a dozen grocery store eggs. Crack one of each in a bowl, side-by-side, and observe them.
The first thing you’re going to notice is the color of the yolk. The backyard egg will be bright orange, like the color of a Tupperware lid. The store bought egg will be a pale yellow color, like the color of a yellow Crayola crayon.
And that, of course, is before you ever taste them.
Do a blindfolded egg taste test. The Pepsi challenge of eggs will find only a random pattern.
Timbo, with each passing year I forget something that was true in the past. Orange juice was not acidic, it was sweet. Eggs were not bright yellow and according to T4C the sun was not white. Didn’t America used to be free?
The egg on the left is what you are probably used to eating. It comes from an industrial model factory farm. The chickens that produce these eggs are fed a single type of feed that is made up of GMO corn/GMO soybean plus an admixture of fillers including wood pulp, ground feathers, as well desiccated and temperature treated manures. They do not go outdoors during their lifetime.
The egg on the right is the kind we eat. The chicken spends it’s entire life with true free range lifestyle and go into the coop at night for protection from predators or to lay, but that’s about it. They feed on insects, larvae, worms, seed heads, grasses and whatever wastes are left behind from feeding the pigs.
There is almost no comparison when it comes to flavor. Like the difference between Velveeta and Brie. I don’t have anything to prove that there’s a difference health-wise, but you seem like a smart guy, what do you think?
JR,while I agree on your view of corporate farms and the corporate welfare(ethanol scam ect.).Feel you burned your tongue on a skillet and fried taste buds if you cannot taste the difference between raw milk/eggs from chickens that to a large degree free range on bugs ect and your boiling product/hormone factories,keep your monsanto crap to your farms though.
Raw milk is dangerous. Pathogens literally swimming in the stuff like Mexican kids at a water park. Would never touch it. Louis Pasteur is owed a debt of gratitude.
Fine,yet folks for 1000’s of years have had raw milk and benefited.You want your milk boiled tis fine,as long as you do not raid farms with swat to stop me from buying raw milk,then,we have a problem.
“…raw milk is dangerous.” So are cars, electricity, water, gravity and knives but I bet you use them every day.
You do understand that the entire planet is awash in pathogens, bacteria, viruses and germs? There is no surface, material or airspace that is free from them and the only way our species could survive is by the development of antibodies by our autoimmune system.
There is no avoidance. The most dangerous pathogens found on Earth develop in hospitals because of their use of antibacterials and antibiotics.
You must be aware of this. Or not.
Raw milk is far healthier than pasteurized milk, easier to digest, boosts immunity, increases bone density, builds lean muscle mass, improves nutrient absorption and reduces allergies. Last year the CDC reported 48 million food borne illnesses, raw milk was responsible for 42.
You’re a fan of accountants, you do the math.
HF
You can’t educate a moron with a sub 80 IQ. He is oblivious to facts and reason. He’s like the feminazi social justice warriors, operating on emotion and hate.
Actually heating milk to the high heat needed in the pasteurization process changes the size of the molecules at which point it becomes injurious to the body. Also the heat kills the enzymes and much of the nutritive value.
Yes, medieval Europe was awash in pathogens too, when this was the dominant attitude, people bathed once a year, and lived to the grand old age of 42.
Excellent, HF. You get 100 points for the post … and 10,000 points for trying to reason with a massively mutated moran.
To add to your thoughts …. let’s not forget that the human body is TEEMING with microbes. In fact, without microbes, we would not be alive.
=====
“A “standard man” weighing 70 kilograms has roughly the same number of bacteria and human cells in his body, researchers report online January 6 at bioRxiv.org. This average guy would be composed of about 40 trillion bacteria and 30 trillion human cells, calculate researchers at the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel, and the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto. That’s a ratio of 1.3 bacteria to every one human cell.”
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/body%E2%80%99s-bacteria-don%E2%80%99t-outnumber-human-cells-so-much-after-all
Don’t blame JR Wirthless, he is a victim of the pesticides/poisons and genetic modification of what he eats. He believes an egg with a ultra pale yolk offers the same nutrition as the egg with the dark orangey-yellow yoke. Even better, he believes radiation is good for you and fails to understand that radiating food renders it void of enzymes and nutrition. What a maroon.
Let this poor creature be a lesson to all as to the danger of non-wholesome food and pesticides.
There is a method of avoidance, if JR wants to live like this:
Conglomerate farms feed a lot of people. How do you eat JR? Trap possums in the backyard?
When did I say that?
Most of the farmers I know struggle to make it from year to year. Every one of them has a “day job” in addition to running the farm just to make ends meet. They get out there and do the work themselves, with family members and occasionally neighbors as needed to get shit done. None has ever hired an illegal. I remember growing up having my grandfather show me his tax return of $9,000 of income for that year raising cattle and selling some dairy. They buy used equipment and run it, fix it, run it, fix it, year after year until it’s worn the fuck out. They throw almost nothing away, especially food. The chickens, dogs and cats get anything (which isn’t much) the family won’t eat. I do know one guy taking advantage of the system who grows tobacco – the US Govt pays him not to grow it, or rather sell it, on the US market, so he sells it on the international market instead. None of these guys are “living large” as you describe it.
Yep I’m one of them damn farmers, I drive a fancy Chevy Silverado four wheel drive with carpet on the floor and air conditioning and a am/fm cassette radio and a title dated 1978. The I get in my big ole 1980 combine and listen to Rush on the radio or my 1982 tractor. Do you know how long you have to sit in a tractor cab at 4.5 mph to get 18,000 hours on the meter? Not complaining just trying to make a living growing grain and hay. Right now it’s 8:30 PM and the tractor and drill are still going planting fall crop and I just got done loading a truck with hay. No I don’t hire illegals, just me and my 3 teenage sons. Might just take 2 weeks off this winter, but it won’t be on a beach in Mexico.
G,if frame and body not rusted out(can handle dents)you feel you want a new truck get in touch,I rebuild older 4×4’s as a hobby,would make said work truck a rebuilt toy,but,tis a nice retirement for a older truck!
Make it a diesel. ?
Saving that for Wip’s S-10 monster truck build!sI would probably go with a crate 383/Doug Nash 5 speed/built axels and transfer(new process203),well,ya get the idea.
“Fuck farmers. God made accountants too.” I hear a lot of people say, this is America, we don’t want people going hungry. And I tell them sure we do. It’s what motivates them to work. Nothing wrong with accountants. But they don’t keep the grocery store stocked.
Don’t be dissing accountants. They are the only thing between Tesla and bankruptcy.
What to say?
I think you’ve got corporate agriculture confused with farming. One is a form of strip mining that measures its success based on units per acre. The people who run those kinds of operations aren’t farmers, they are project managers or floor supervisors. They work with things that no farmer would ever use like herbicides and pesticides, they poison the soil and the water – the antithesis of adding tilth, of good husbandry. A farmer’s purpose is to improve he quality of the holding he lives on, to raise healthy clear-eyed children, to be independent and resourceful and to provide his own sustenance from the land he occupies. It isn’t about profits and losses anymore than bookkeeping is about feathers and soil. The price that the farmer is paid is in better health, deeper sleep, liberty and self-reliance, and a superior working environment. Money comes and money goes and people who spend their entire lives fixated on that surreal goalpost are almost always the most miserable, mentally unbalanced and spiritually corrupted people you will ever encounter. I should know, I’ve done both.
The very act of industrializing a natural process is akin to saying a money launderer is an accountant- they do the very opposite. One looks to balance a ledger and to demonstrate profits and losses for an accurate record while the other seeks to obfuscate the truth through complex rigging of facts using bogus data.
A guy who beats someone to death with hammer isn’t a carpenter, c’est nes pas?
And if you can’t tell the difference between an egg you get at Denny’s and one from a free ranging chicken then you probably wouldn’t notice the difference between a beautiful woman and a transvestite.
EOM.
JR Wirthless at the end of this thread.
I don’t know about that. No one here has refuted a word I’ve said. They just throw tantrums….like some Antifa Portlander. Maybe the right is closer to the left than we think. All emotive people educated by public schools to follow their emotions over reason.
You’re right about one thing, without even saying it. Few people can stand a purely reasonable person.
These same people are likely anti-vaccine too.
Your drivel didn’t need to be refuted because it was worthless diarrhea of the mouth. You were crushed like a bug on a windshield, but your ego is too big to admit you were wrong. That says a lot about a person. You revealed yourself on this thread. Your comments will be taken with a grain of salt by readers henceforth. Have a nice day.
I think someone has a damaged ego here, and it’s not me. I’m just stating facts. I don’t have money riding on the outcome of this conversation. Maybe you lost money in the 1980’s farm bust and you’re still upset. Who knows.
The only thing this entire conversation proves is that those on the right of the spectrum can be just as narrow and dense as the ones on the left. The same people who were conned early on by Glenn Beck when he was on Fox News. Someone with the title “administrator” has to be the smartest guy in the room right?…..crickets chirping.
You haven’t stated one fact in your inane comments. You are really reaching with your losing money blather. I don’t give a flying fuck about farm busts. Keep throwing around red herrings like Glenn Beck to deflect the focus away from your idiocy. I notice you didn’t address Hardscrabble’s comment because his experience and intellect reveal you to be an arrogant douchebag with no cogent argument supporting your blitheringly stupid comments.
I may not be the smartest guy in the room, but we now know who the new TBP village Idiot is. Can you guess?
I never read the Hardscrabble Farmer post because he’s a bloviating idiot. I scroll past him every time. Almost as useless and uninteresting as that Maggie woman. If he was Z-Man I would have read it.
Is that a picture of him?
This country has more AG perks than you can shake a stick at. Literally billions in USDA direct subsidies, subsidized AG loans, subsidized AG insurance. If you’re “hard scrabble” after all of that maybe you should be a mechanic instead. There are all kinds of “hardscrabble” people in this world. I’m sure some guy just got home from work at the Greyhound station. Why should the word “farmer” make a difference?
Fuck self righteousness and putting certain jobs on pedestals. A job is a job, some are hard some are easier. Some are filthy and some aren’t. I have a friend who has to work in the San Francisco sewer system, filled with rats, roaches, used condoms and hypodermic needles. He earns every penny. I work an air conditioned office building, yet some days I would rather deal with rats in a sewer than the ones who walk on two legs into my office.
That was your best argument. You should have led with it.
I’m sure you’re a top executive in your air conditioned office with your soaring intellect. I would have put my money on you being a fry cook at McDonalds on your final written warning for burning the fries. I really should require an IQ test for commenters to weed out retards like yourself before they pollute the site with some of the dumbest comments in the history of this site. I take shits with more substance than your comments.
But you keep responding so everyone can understand why the country is on the road to collapse. With the ignorant masses as ignorant as yourself, we’re truly doomed. You have solidified your position as Village Idiot. BB is going to be disappointed.
You’re the one who keeps posting stupid pictures as a defense mechanism. I dare you to make this conversation its own post on your site. You won’t, because you lost the argument. I’ll put my IQ against yours or anyone here any day. Z-Man would give me a run for my money. That’s about it.
You’ve been pummeled and revealed to be a village idiot. This conversation is being read by plenty of people. Check out your thumb count douche.
Your IQ wouldn’t even get you on the short bus for 3rd grade dumb asses. Go crawl back into your air conditioned hole.
Hmmmm….,you know,that bus with a lift/added transfer case/front pumpkin and some say 35″ tires might be a cool little camper,just saying…..
Oh, the irony, it burns. I excoriated Maggie for welcoming JR Wirthless. I thought he was a dipshit from the gitgo. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Maggie, you have to come back and clean your mess, hon.
“I never read the Hardscrabble Farmer post because he’s a bloviating idiot.” ——— JR Wirthless
That’s a first! Literally. We LOVE our Farmer!!!!!!!!!!!
You? Not at all. You’re a big nothing burger. You’ve just made another enemy (me), and a GUARANTEE that I’ll vote down everything you write from now until the cows come home.
“I may not be the smartest guy in the room,” – Admin
Aside from everything he’s done for us, the guy is still humble, I feel like Kanye must have felt at the Trump summit. Awesome!
You may want to read my comments Wirthless. I openly refute your claims.
“And if you can’t tell the difference between an egg you get at Denny’s and one from a free ranging chicken then you probably wouldn’t notice the difference between a beautiful woman and a transvestite.” That one is tough to refute.
beating someone to death with a hammer a carpenter does not make,that said,as a carpenter have thought many times about hitting folks with me hammer and do have a framer that goes by the factory moniker”Death Stick”,just saying.I can say with pride have killed no coworkers/customers and none have as of yet hit me with a hammer though a few times I probably deserved it.
Reminds me of when I worked in a factory building mining muckers (loaders). One of the engineers was out in my bay working with me, which we had an unwritten law against. Engineers weren’t allowed to touch tools. So he had this really stupid idea that he was trying to prove was viable and he had me making tacks with the welder while he smacked them with the single jack (short handled 4 lb sledge) to make the 2 pieces of steel fit tight together. He’d irritated the ever living crap out of me so to get even I was putting the tacks in corners where the hammer couldn’t go and he wasn’t able to smack them down. He got frustrated and threw the hammer on the floor which was asphalt and it bounced up and hit me in the knee. I went into a rage and picked up the hammer and chased him out of the building with it. That boy was running like a deer. As he was going out the door the hammer whistled past his right ear close enough I know he heard it. Lucky my aim was off by a hair or I’d probably still be in prison.
If anyone out there gardens I think you need to see this. https://www.tenthacrefarm.com/2018/09/manure-garden/?fbclid=IwAR291ctbh0__fjIFwcavMdgp7JBIig_Qnfg5c0d-CoNXCj4kyoIKS2zAXEo
Kad,thanks for depressing but useful link,hope your garden didn’t get blighted!
JR disparaged Farmers & Ranchers, Soldiers and Sailors; we are like Medical Personnel, Churchmen, Truckers & Trainmen, Repairmen & Laborers, Linemen, Miners, Teachers, Cooks, Retailers, Fishermen. It’d be a tough life without us.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Only farmers and the military did I disparage. Stop throwing in other trades to make your point. Linemen work the hardest of all of them, too bad they blow it all on whores.
Teachers mostly suck too by the way, I’m glad you brought that up.
Disparaging farmers is literally the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
“Disparaging farmers is literally the dumbest thing I have ever heard.”,hmmm……,read some of your comments here,there is “dumber”!
Where?
Best thread for all the wrong reasons.
I really don’t care if someone has disdain for farming, to each his own. But it’s the kind of rank hypocrisy that can’t be hidden when you denigrate the very thing that sustains you, biting the hand and all that jazz that makes your commentary so enlightening. We’re dirt people in flyover country and you’re what, exactly?
You eat, right? Every morsel that you consume comes from the sweat, planning, investment and labor of another- you couldn’t survive without them and yet you mouth off like a petulant tween angry at his Mommy because she took away your X-box.
Who’s a cheeky little monkey? You are.
Sorry I missed this thread! Damn, Admin and the monkeys laid a world class ass beating on JR. It warms the cickles of my shriveled up heart to see such action!
I love it when the monkeys gang bang an idiot.