2019 FROM A FOURTH TURNING PERSPECTIVE

“An impasse over the federal budget reaches a stalemate. The president and Congress both refuse to back down, triggering a near-total government shutdown. The president declares emergency powers. Congress rescinds his authority. Dollar and bond prices plummet. The president threatens to stop Social Security checks. Congress refuses to raise the debt ceiling. Default looms. Wall Street panics.” – The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe

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Strauss and Howe wrote their book in 1996. They were not trying to be prophets of doom, but observers of history able to connect events through human life cycles of 80 or so years. Using critical thinking skills and identifying the most likely triggers for crisis: debt, civic decay, and global disorder, they were able to anticipate scenarios which could drive the next crisis, which they warned would arrive in the mid-2000 decade. The scenario described above is fairly close to the current situation, driven by the showdown between Trump and the Democrats regarding the border wall.

It has not reached the stage where all hell breaks loose, but if it extends until the end of January and food stamp money is not distributed to 40 million people (mostly in urban ghettos) all bets are off. The likelihood of this scenario is small, but there are numerous potential triggers which could still make 2019 go down in history as a year to remember.

As we enter the eleventh year of this Fourth Turning, the fourth Crisis period in U.S. history, the mood of U.S. citizens and citizens around the globe continues to darken. Fourth Turnings are driven by generational configuration and the emotional reaction to events by the Prophet generation leaders, Nomad generation spearheads, and Hero generation cannon fodder.

As we close out this year, stock markets are gyrating wildly, central bankers are trying to reverse their nine years of interventionist strategies to sustain the establishment, civil chaos spreads across the European continent, saber rattling between the U.S., Russia and China increases, the animosity between political parties reaches new heights, the Deep State relentlessly pursues their Mueller led coup against Trump, mega-social media corporations tighten their grip on free speech by silencing conservatives, leftists push their socialist, open borders, normalizing degeneracy agenda, and global recession gains momentum as trade declines and global debt reaches unserviceable levels.

Examining the three prior Fourth Turnings may give us a window into where we stand and what may happen in the coming year. We are in the tenth year of this Crisis, with the eleven-year anniversary slated for September 2019. The American Revolution Crisis was catalyzed in 1773 when the Boston Tea Party forever changed the colonial mood towards revolution. After eight years of struggle and desperate measures, the climax was reached with the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown in 1781.

But there was still thirteen more years of crisis as the new states forged a Constitution, elected Washington its first president, and he withstood the Jacobins, put down the Whiskey Rebellion and finalized a treaty with England. In year ten of the crisis, two years past the climax, the Treaty of Paris was signed, British troops left the continent, and Washington resigned as commander of American troops. The Articles of Confederation had been ratified in 1781 and remained in place until succeeded by the U.S. Constitution in 1789.

There was no tenth or eleventh year of the Civil War Crisis. Lincoln’s election with only 40% of the popular vote, prompting the attack on Fort Sumpter, and subsequent secession of Southern states, triggered the bloodiest conflict in world history, with 8% of all white men aged 13 to 43 killed in the war, including 6% in the North and 18% in the South. The acceleration of this Fourth Turning into a five-year window from 1860 to 1865 was not a positive development.

The extreme intensity of the conflict resulted in 700,000 tragic deaths. The catalyst occurred five years too soon and the resolution a generation too soon. A more extended crisis may have allowed tempers to moderate and the conflict to end in a more constructive manner. Instead, with the surrender at Appomattox and assassination of Lincoln, the resolution felt more like a defeat than a victory. Turmoil continued for at least a decade after the resolution.

The Great Depression/World War II Crisis saw its tenth and eleventh years as the most ominous, dangerous and destructive for Great Britain, as they bore the brunt of the German onslaught. 1939 saw the Nazi invasion of Poland and the official start of World War II. In May of 1940 Germany launched its blitzkrieg offensive through Holland and Belgium, defeating the French and British forces in a matter of weeks. Chamberlain resigned as Prime Minister, replaced by Churchill, as France surrendered in late June.

The Battle of Britain raged from July through October as Hitler relentlessly bombed England, trying to force their surrender. Germany, Italy and Japan signed the Tripartite pact in September, setting the stage for the U.S. eventual participation in the war. Einstein informed FDR of the potential for an atomic bomb during 1939 and the Manhattan Project was born. The climax of the crisis occurred with the successful D-Day invasion. The dropping of two atomic bombs on Japan and successful demobilization of military forces marked the end of the crisis.

History may not repeat, but human nature never changes, so the 80-year cycles of manmade crisis will repeat. The length of time from the American Revolution climax in 1781 until the Civil War climax in 1863 was 82 years. The next climax in 1944 was 81 years after the Civil War climax. Therefore, we can expect a climax to this current Crisis sometime in the 2025 range. The question is what events will transpire between 2019 and 2025 before a climax is reached.

Based upon history, the resolution will not be based on compromise, civility, reason, or peaceful means. The combustible combination of unpayable debt, civic anarchy, and global chaos are set to detonate, creating an era of maximum darkness, death, destruction, and decisions. Making America Great Again will require personal sacrifice, dreadful choices, survival skills, intelligent decisions, and the courage to win at all costs.

The first ten years of this Crisis were the early Winter solstice period when public order began to pass its nadir. The coldest days of Winter beckon with the harshest years of the Crisis ahead. Many melancholy days lie ahead, as bitter winter winds and blizzard like conditions sweep the bleak landscape, testing the mettle of even the bravest souls. The catalyst for the Crisis was the Wall Street created global financial meltdown in 2008. The election of Trump marked the beginning of the regeneracy, with Trump as the Gray Champion.

The last two years have certainly marked a new more volatile phase of this Crisis, setting the stage for the fireworks to come. The regeneracy is less like FDR’s New Deal initiated unification of the country and more like the Lincoln regeneracy after the First Battle of Bull Run when he ordered the enlistment of a half million men to fight a like number of fellow American men. Both American factions were unified in their cause. The chain reaction of emergencies and unyielding responses will continue unabated until a final resolution is achieved.

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“In retrospect, the spark might seem as ominous as a financial crash, as ordinary as a national election, or as trivial as a Tea Party. The catalyst will unfold according to a basic Crisis dynamic that underlies all of these scenarios: An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further emergencies.

The core elements of these scenarios (debt, civic decay, global disorder) will matter more than the details, which the catalyst will juxtapose and connect in some unknowable way. If foreign societies are also entering a Fourth Turning, this could accelerate the chain reaction. At home and abroad, these events will reflect the tearing of the civic fabric at points of extreme vulnerability – problem areas where America will have neglected, denied, or delayed needed action.” – The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe

Strauss and Howe foresaw the core elements which would surely propel the next Fourth Turning. They were plain to see for people who chose to see the world with eyes wide open. Debt, civic decay and global disorder are on center stage as we enter the fateful year of 2019. A madness seems to be gripping the nation, a melancholy realization all is not right. Everything has a chaotic feel, as financial markets are falling, politicians threaten and attack each other, government dysfunction is laid bare for all to see, Deep State snakes slither behind the scenes trying to bring down Trump, racial tensions grow, foreign governments topple, Russia and China challenge U.S. hegemony, and the global debt Ponzi scheme is entering its collapse phase.

There are no moderates, only pro-Trump and anti-Trump factions. Compromise and workable solutions to our deep-seated problems are off the table. The mood of the populace ranges from frustrated and angry to depressed and stressed. The aroma of conflict wafts through the air as battle lines are being drawn.

The initial spark of a global financial meltdown created by greedy Wall Street banks, the feckless Fed, and corrupt government officials was driven by bad debt, outright control fraud by the financial industry, captured rating agencies, easy money provided by the Wall Street owned Fed, and utter contempt for properly regulating the Wall Street cabal by the Fed and SEC.

This emergency was met by an unyielding response from the establishment, with the easiest money policies in world history, bailing out criminal bankers with taxpayer funds, increasing global debt by $80 trillion to $250 trillion (318% of global GDP), running fiscal deficits exceeding $1 trillion per year, and pretending all that debt will be repaid. Pretend and extend has been the solution.

The Deep State has taken extraordinary measures to try and retain their stranglehold on the wealth of the nation and control of the political, financial, social and media levers of society. They have utilized a combination of propaganda disguised as news, social media distractions, technological surveillance, misinformation campaigns, welfare to keep the poor sedated, and the continued issuance of debt to keep the masses satiated with consumer goods as their wealth dissipates. But the teetering edifice of debt, delusion and deception is poised to topple in 2019.

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As we enter 2019, year eleven of this ongoing Crisis, you can sense the panic and distress permeating from the pores of the establishment figures and their rich shadowy benefactors trying to maintain their unseen presence behind the curtain as they pull the strings – operating as the invisible government running the show for their own benefit. It seems the unanticipated election of Trump has thrown a monkey wrench into their well- oiled pillage machine, forcing them to reveal themselves as they attempt a not so subtle coup against a sitting president.

Fourth Turnings always sweep away the existing social order in a torrent of violent upheaval and the blood of young men. But that doesn’t mean the existing establishment will give up their wealth, power and control without a fight. And the fight is underway. The volcano has erupted and the molten lava could flow in numerous pathways over the next six or so years.

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“Imagine some national (and probably global) volcanic eruption, initially flowing along channels of distress that were created during the Unraveling era and further widened by the catalyst. Trying to foresee where the eruption will go once it bursts free of the channels is like trying to predict the exact fault line of an earthquake. All you know in advance is something about the molten ingredients of the climax, which could include the following:

  • Economic distress, with public debt in default, entitlement trust funds in bankruptcy, mounting poverty and unemployment, trade wars, collapsing financial markets, and hyperinflation (or deflation)
  • Social distress, with violence fueled by class, race, nativism, or religion and abetted by armed gangs, underground militias, and mercenaries hired by walled communities
  • Political distress, with institutional collapse, open tax revolts, one-party hegemony, major constitutional change, secessionism, authoritarianism, and altered national borders
  • Military distress, with war against terrorists or foreign regimes equipped with weapons of mass destruction”  – The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe

The ingredients of distress in the next phase of this Crisis could include any or all of those pondered by Strauss and Howe twenty-two years ago. I can make the case for multiple levels of distress breaking free from their channels, making 2019 as historic a year as 1939 or 1940. My prognosis for 2019 follows:

Economic Distress

Economic distress is mounting, as the machinations of the Fed, Wall Street and the U.S. government prove to be nothing more than debt financed illusions. Once the easy money spigot is turned off and the tide of zero interest debt for Wall Street and mega-corporations recedes, you realize everyone was swimming naked. The national debt grew by $1.4 trillion in 2018 during “the best economy ever”, according to Trump.

We added $12 trillion to the national debt and have generated a historically weak recovery, especially for the working class. We’ve gone nine years without recession and the longest period in U.S. history between recessions was ten years. Without the tax cut stimulus, interest rates higher, corporate profits flagging, global trade waning, and central bankers withdrawing liquidity, recession is likely in 2019 – driving deficits towards $2 trillion.

The number of zombie companies (GE, Sears, JC Penney, Chesapeake, all fracking companies) propped up by cheap junk bond debt is astronomical. National debt default is still a ways off, but a tsunami of corporate debt defaults will inundate the economy once the recession knocks the legs out from beneath this faux recovery. Corporations and consumers have never been more indebted. Stock valuations have never been higher.

An economy that begins to self destruct when interest rates approach 3% proves the “solutions” implemented by those in power did nothing for the average American, while further enriching the parasitical class pulling the strings. At this point, a specific triggering event is unnecessary to provoke the economic conflagration. The unbearable weight of unpayable debt is going to cause the structure to collapse at free fall speed, like the Twin Towers pancaking everyone in the floors below.

With a recession inevitable in 2019, we know the stock market declines 30% to 40% during recessions, on average. When a stock market is this overvalued, based solely on Fed easy money and corporate buybacks (Apple has lost $9 billion on their buybacks this year), the withdrawal of liquidity combined with recession and declining profits will knock 50% to 60% off current prices. I wonder how many middle-class 401k contributors expect this to happen. Well this will be the third time in 18 years, so you would think they’d learn by now.

Recession means job losses, consumer debt defaults, less tax revenue for the government, more wasteful spending by politicians pretending to care, soaring deficits, currency gyrations, and the potential for rising interest rates as no one will be willing or able to buy the newly issued debt. Will we have massive deflation or hyperinflation? Anything is possible in a collapse scenario. What is certain will be millions of angry Americans looking for someone to blame and politicians seeking to distract them with some foreign “threat” to their safety and security. This is when trade wars morph into real wars.

Social Distress

The social distress sweeping the country gets the majority of attention on the left-wing corporate media propaganda machines as they purposely fan the flames of divisiveness. Keeping the sheeple angry at each other keeps them distracted from the continued pillaging of the national wealth by the Deep State scum operating in plain sight. The daily war against the normals has reached new heights of hypocrisy and idiocy.

The unceasing mantra of diversity, trying to normalize the lifestyles of the mentally ill, glorifying socialism as Venezuela implodes due to socialism, promoting the climate change agenda to abscond with more taxes, and trying to force left wing agendas down the throats of white traditional family-oriented people, is on the verge of starting civil violence as we are witnessing in France. The ruling class has gone too far in accumulating the wealth of the nation through the capture of regulatory, political, financial, and communication structures. Wealth inequality arisen through fraud, deception and corruption will lead to class warfare – likely after the next financial collapse.

The current government shutdown over funding for a border wall is essentially a showdown over the racial makeup of the country and allowing unfettered access to welfare benefits to illegal invaders who will loyally illegally vote for their Democrat benefactors for eternity. Racial politics is what has kept blacks enslaved on the welfare plantation in decaying urban ghettos run by Democrat politician plantation owners.

A black uprising led by Kanye West has struck fear into the hearts of Democrats, giving them further incentive to keeping the southern border open to new Democrat voters.  With gun grabbing liberal politicians attempting to disarm the deplorables in flyover country, while supporting antifa and black lives matter terrorists, and thwarting efforts to keep criminals and terrorists from illegally entering the country, a violent showdown is inevitable.

Political Distress

The political distress since the 2016 election has reached levels not seen since the Civil War Crisis period. The Deep State controllers’ next hand-picked figurehead president – Hillary Clinton – inexplicably lost the election to a NYC reality star real estate mogul who boasted about grabbing pussies and had a weakness for strippers and Playboy bunnies. Clinton’s arrogance and hubris were her downfall as the deplorables she ridiculed and a majority of white women in the country gave Trump a slim victory and drove millions of pussy-hat wearing feminazis into a rage.

College students across the land sobbed in their safe spaces and missed their Queer Theory or Pick your Gender classes. But not only were snowflakes across the land melting, but the surveillance state spooks who attempted to rig the election in Clinton’s favor went into a frenzy, as fear of their traitorous machinations being revealed forced them to begin a coup attempt against Trump. The Mueller, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Obama, Clinton reactive coup attempt is ongoing and will come to a head in 2019.

The outcome of this epic struggle between the Deep State and the non-approved upstart president could create civil war like conditions. How will Trump supporters react if they believe their leader is removed through impeachment, based on false charges? Will they take to the streets in armed insurrection? Will the police and military fire on their fellow citizens? What if Trump refuses to step down, creating a Constitutional crisis? What if he is assassinated?

On the other hand, what if Trump’s allies within the DOJ and Military present evidence of collusion against the Obama administration, Clinton and top officials in the FBI, DOJ and CIA? How would the left wingers react to military tribunals with their beloved leaders in the docket? Even if these earth-shattering events don’t come to fruition, a Democrat controlled House will thwart everything Trump attempts to accomplish as they position themselves for the 2020 presidential election. The anger and disillusionment of the masses will deepen.

Military Distress

The potential for catastrophe on the military front hasn’t been higher in decades. The linear thinking lemmings dismiss the possibility of a global conflict because they are just as obtuse as “experts” before them throughout history. Since World War II we have only experienced proxy wars where the outcomes would not change the course of world history. There have been no “total wars”, where the loser is utterly shattered and complete victory is attained.

Those who practice revisionist history act as if the previous two Fourth Turning total wars were completely predictable before they began. In 1858 no one believed a Civil War taking the lives of 700,000 Americans was just over the horizon. Exactly 80 years later in 1938, few believed a global conflict which would kill 65 million people in six years was imminent. Here we are exactly 80 years later and anyone predicting a global conflagration killing millions is declared a loon.

Every previous Fourth Turning has ended in total war with victory of the “good guys” always in doubt. Every total war has ratcheted up the level of death and destruction, as technological “advancements” enhance our war making abilities. Human nature DOES NOT change. We are not smarter, less war-like, more humanitarian, or less arrogant than our predecessors throughout history. Hubris, power, and miscalculation by egomaniacal leaders leads to war.

We know the climax of this Fourth Turning is slated for around 2025. This infers a high likelihood of a major war involving the U.S. in the foreseeable future. Will it ignite in 2019? All the combustible elements are present. The onset of a global depression, trade wars, China & Russia feeling pushed into a corner and the volatile political situation in the U.S. and EU provide a potential pathway to global conflict.

Economic indicators from China show the slowest economic growth in a quarter century. Their natives are restless. Plunging oil prices will throw the Russian economy into recession. The EU economies, led by Germany, are seizing up with the slowdown in global trade. Japan has essentially been in recession since the 1990s. The U.S. is poised for a recession in 2019.

Immigration chaos in Europe, Brexit, Ukrainian nazis provoking Russia, South China Sea territorial disputes, the Syria, Turkey, Iran, Israel ticking time bomb, Saudi anarchy, socialist South American regimes imploding, and U.S. political pandemonium have created a perfect storm of domestic and international disasters. What do low-life politicians do when faced with terrible domestic issues? They seek to distract their citizens with a foreign threat. See “Blame Russia for Everything” as an example of this tried and true propaganda technique.

Desperate politicians do desperate things to retain power. Desperate Deep State actors care not one wit for their fellow countrymen. They are willing and able to sacrifice the youth of their nation to fight wars which will further enrich themselves and their fellow traitorous benefactors. We are nothing but cannon fodder to this psychopathic scum. Putin and Xi are essentially dictators who have no fear of elections every two years. They are serious men in possession of nuclear missiles, capable of destroying the world.

Blaming them for all the ills in your own country is a fool hardy tactic. The ever- increasing saber rattling, whether in the Ukraine, Syria, South China Sea, or during antagonistic trade negotiations can easily lead to unintended consequences. All leaders have enormous egos and are prone to over-confidence and miscalculation regarding how their opponent will react. Someone is going to do something stupid and then all hell is going to break loose.

No Escape

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“The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.

History offers no guarantees. Obviously, things could go horribly wrong – the possibilities ranging from a nuclear exchange to incurable plagues, from terrorist anarchy to high-tech dictatorship. We should not assume that Providence will always exempt our nation from the irreversible tragedies that have overtaken so many others: not just temporary hardship, but debasement and total ruin. Losing in the next Fourth Turning could mean something incomparably worse. It could mean a lasting defeat from which our national innocence – perhaps even our nation – might never recover.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

There is no escape from the Fourth Turning. We are midway through this crisis and the existing social order retains tenuous control over the levers of finance, government and the legacy media. History tells us our society will be reshaped and transformed before this crisis resolves itself sometime between now and 2029. It would be the utmost of arrogance to believe our nation will be protected from destruction by an all-powerful God. We’ve made bad choices, deferred hard decisions, squandered our financial resources, allowed our educational system to be corrupted and valued all the wrong things.

There will be consequences. The overt last- ditch financial debt schemes concocted by the entrenched establishment, to prolong their power and control, are unraveling and a death and rebirth of the social order through a chaotic cleansing is in the offing. I believe the real fireworks will begin during 2019.

I don’t eagerly await the terrible storms headed our way. I wish we didn’t have to withstand the brutal gales of this coming winter, but we have no choice. You have to survive Winter to experience the blossoming Spring. The coming decade will try our souls and force everyone to make choices that will make a difference. The specific events are unknowable, but how we react and who we support during the events will be the decisive factor in whether this Fourth Turning is resolved in a positive way. Having it resolved in negative way could be an unimaginable tragedy.

Patrick Henry made his famous “Give me liberty or give me death” speech during the first American Fourth Turning. His words ring true today. We are already at war. Sides have been drawn. We are going to have to fight whether we like it or not. Our only other choice is chains and slavery. The time to choose has arrived. Welcome to 2019.

  Image result for distress fourth turning “The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”Patrick Henry – 1775

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Uncola
Uncola
December 31, 2018 7:00 pm

….there are numerous potential triggers which could still make 2019 go down in history as a year to remember

Some things are guaranteed: 2019 will be an odd year as even 2020 brings more focus.

I couldn’t resist.

But seriously, great work, Jim, once again.

Old man 2018 is all but gone. A time for new beginnings…

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Gloriously Deplorable Paul
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
December 31, 2018 7:02 pm

I see no holes, no gaps, no runs, drips or errors in the analysis. I try to gently make the point to family and friends that crisis is near and it’s better to be vigilant and prepared than to try to react after things get hot.
Eyes and ears open and powder dry.

ivan
ivan
  Gloriously Deplorable Paul
January 1, 2019 1:34 pm

Bob

Loadnup
Loadnup
  Gloriously Deplorable Paul
January 3, 2019 7:45 pm

It is obvious you have been reading my mail.. the saddest truth is the blindness, the absolute blindness of folks who should know better or at a minimum be open to the truth being spelled out for them but, and it is a huge “BUT,” they want nothing better than to stay in their all-is-well world and i don’t want to hear what you have to say…

Eyes and ears are open and powder is dry…

NtroP
NtroP
December 31, 2018 7:06 pm

Jim,

Absolutely brilliant. You have knocked it out of the park yet again, and I predict this will be one of the best, most accurate synopsis of the coming year seen anywhere.
We’ve chosen which side we’re on, and know we’ll have to fight. Amen

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  NtroP
January 1, 2019 10:09 am

Agreed. This post will no doubt be picked up on multiple sites. Awesome work Jim… Chip

Grizzly Bare
Grizzly Bare
  NtroP
January 1, 2019 10:34 am

I’ve chosen liberty.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Grizzly Bare
January 2, 2019 9:29 pm

“Where the Spirit of God is there is Liberty.”

I’ve chosen Christian Liberty.

James
James
December 31, 2018 7:12 pm

Happy NEW YEAR ALL!

BB
BB
  James
August 12, 2019 4:36 pm

Phone is causing problems

ed
ed
December 31, 2018 7:27 pm

Excellent assessment. William Strauss peering down from the great beyond would be proud. I agree with all of your wargaming scenarios….bad moon rising in 2019 methinks

JimmyTorpedo
JimmyTorpedo
December 31, 2018 8:04 pm

Mountain top retreat-Check
Herd of milk cows-Check
Pigs for bacon-Check
Chickens-Check
Garden of vegetables-Check
Year round spring water-Check
Mean guard dogs-Check
Popcorn-Check
Shitty internet connection-Check

C’mon already, I have been waiting for this since 2009!

James
James
  JimmyTorpedo
December 31, 2018 8:42 pm

Jimmy,reread what happened in Yugoslavia,then,be content that the dogs are at rest!

Gryffyn
Gryffyn
  JimmyTorpedo
December 31, 2018 9:16 pm

Jimmy T. I moved back to my mountain farm after 30+years of town life. I really dread what may be coming down the pike, knowing that long term survival is iffy and will not be easy. A major collapse
will toss us back into a primitive, survival of the strongest, life. Along with all your preps I hope you have enough people to protect and defend what you have.

TC
TC
  JimmyTorpedo
December 31, 2018 10:15 pm

Sounds great until they decide to burn all the rural areas to the ground with DEWs.

James
James
  TC
January 1, 2019 9:35 am

TC,there will be many inside the cities that throw monkey wrenches in the gears and make available the addresses of folks with ill intent,things go bad will be long term/4th gen,very ugly but perhaps no other choices left to folks.

mark
mark
  TC
January 1, 2019 2:09 pm

TC,
No chit mun..thinking the same thing.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  JimmyTorpedo
January 1, 2019 10:11 am

Don’t forget the lead and gun powder… Chip

JimmyTorpedo
JimmyTorpedo
  SmallerGovNow
January 1, 2019 6:49 pm

I don’t think there will be any DEW fires in Nicaragua.
And I try not to speak of metal of any sort on the internet.
I have a 1000lbs of beans stored in the banana house, mostly to feed the pigs and as seed although the current crop of 5 acres is ready to harvest. Another 2000lbs of beans, pigeon peas, velvet beans and red beans.
I have three families which depend on us and will fight for for our bananas, coffee, beans, corn (oranges, lemons, guava, guanabana, mangoes, pineapples, naranjillas, coconuts, firewood, nancites,….)
They did it before.
Any electricians in this community want to help me figure out the mini hydro electric generator? I have about 120 psi coming down in a 2 inch pipe. I figured I would just use this older 240v motor and spin it backwards with a homemade peloton wheel .
Any thoughts?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  JimmyTorpedo
January 2, 2019 3:28 pm

you will need to spin your electric motor faster than it normally operates, read up on: Induction generator

Schmboo
Schmboo
  JimmyTorpedo
January 18, 2019 3:42 am

A very simple fluid mechanics truism is that the power output from a moving water source is the volume flow rate times the pressure. So take the 120 psi converted into Pascals (about 826,000 Pa) and multiply by velocity in m/s times cross sectional area of the pipe, and size your generator to handle that much power. For example, if the water moves through 2 inch pipe at about 1 m/s, then you have 6.8 Kw of power available, enough to run a small home.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  JimmyTorpedo
January 2, 2019 9:32 pm

Hey, you forgot subterranean cave with running spring!

I’d be happy with some kind of well-house.

mark
mark
  messianicdruid
January 6, 2019 1:28 pm

messianicdruid,

If your interested. I called Bison, sent them three photos of my 25 year old well head, they sent me a customized designed/built stainless steel duel line (one electric – one hand pump) well head (the hand pump is detachable and stays in the barn until TSHTF) total cost about 2k.

https://www.bisonpumps.com/deep-well-hand-pump/

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
December 31, 2018 8:54 pm

Kudos Admin!

Many great observations and prognastications that seem on the horizon of this manufactured Sharknado!

Attrition, attrition, attrition…

Vigilance, perseverance and resiliency to ALL! and God have mercy on us ALL!

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Platoplubius
January 2, 2019 8:27 am

2 Corinthians 4:1-2 KJV… “Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.”

What we do with the mercy already received (during this latest turning) is the question at hand. Grace and peace to all.

Gryffyn
Gryffyn
December 31, 2018 8:57 pm

Great essay. I would only disagree with your reference to our WWII invasion at Normandy as a turning point. Russia defeated the main German army and pushed it’s remnants back to Berlin. Our invasion was secondary. We faced off with the second string, old men and boys, on the beaches in France. Richard Overy’s book, “Why the Allies Won” tells the tale. Stalin was unbelievably insane, killing off some of his best generals and officers and sacrificing millions of his people, but Russia prevailed. And now we have new idiots in Washington who think war with Russia is winnable. Russia has developed new smart weapons that ensure MAD, “Mutually Assured Destruction” is still in effect. Remember what happened to Napoleon and Hitler when they attacked Mother Russia. Russia has fallout shelters for most of her citizens. We have nothing, other than shelter in place. The stupidity, it burns.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  Gryffyn
January 1, 2019 10:12 am

Bingo!

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Gryffyn
January 1, 2019 2:15 pm

EVERY single Russian boy and girl is trained by middle school in disassembly, assembly and use of the Kalashnikov rifle. In PE class they divide into teams and have a contest as to which team can disassemble and reassemble rifles the quickest. Ten kids in a row take it apart and put it back together in about two minutes or less.

williamwilliams
williamwilliams
  Harrington Richardson
January 3, 2019 1:21 am

Yes… there’s a fun youtube video of Russian teens breaking down and reassembling AKs.

FWIW, Mr. Putin has stated that if a major war comes, this time it will not be fought on Russian soil.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  williamwilliams
January 3, 2019 1:55 pm

If war with the U.S. comes, Russia will probably make an immediate play to reacquire Alaska and the Aleutian Islands, which once belonged to Imperial Russia before being sold to the U.S. If the PRC comes into the fight alongside Russia, lord only knows what they’ll grab. And if we get too uppity about it, both nations have nukes – lots of nukes. Including tactical ones for battlefield use, as well as strategic weapons.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Gryffyn
January 3, 2019 1:52 pm

Your analysis is spot-on. The Russians survived tens of millions of dead and the utter destruction of much of their country during what they call “The Great Patriotic War” – yet survived. Leaving aside the issue of their leaders for a moment, the Russian people themselves have proven their ability to withstand hardships unimaginable to most westerners, especially the younger generations. Going to war with a nation like that is a fool’s errand, and utterly insane – but then, who ever said the leaders of the deep-state were sane? And tensions between Russia and the U.S. are as high now as they were during he worst years of the Cold War. How high? A popular seller in Moscow stores is a door-mat for the wiping of one’s feet before entering a home – which has a picture of the American flag on it!

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
December 31, 2018 9:00 pm

Admin et al

Happy New Years!

Your article fit nicely with Kunstlers year end review.
My comments there are relevant to the overall trajectory we are headed head long towards…

Forecast 2019: Ding Ding ! Margin Call USA

2019 is the prelude to 2020 election year.

Just like with the ever earlier selling of holiday crap in the stores for the next ever-arriving corporate promoted day to spend for Amurikans, the same can be said for the U.S. presidential election shenanigans ever since the cap for corporate political donations was removed by the Supreme Court in CITIZENS UNITED VS THE UNITED STATES.

If half of what Kunstler says comes true next year, CALPERS and other state pension funds could be the NEXT to be BAILED out. …DEBT jubilee? Micro chipped RFID and Universal Basic Income will be part of the NEW savior system after much weeping and gnashing of teeth.

China seems to be the guinea pig for working out all the kinks before the reset button is pushed for the Western world.

The story in the video from China and the Christians being persecuted there was eye opening as sell as the Chipping in Sweden, goes along with the cobtinued trends with technology and the invasiveness, pervasiveness of this artifical, technocratic apparatus being developed and erected around us,to be digitally overlayed over our natural persons and corporate STRAWMAN will be FORCED to interact with. You’re either with THEM or AGAINST them.
Scary, Mark of the Beast revelations!

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Platoplubius
January 1, 2019 1:08 pm

Here was a follow up from the same thread.

Kunstler and I are in agreement that Trump is overseeing the “austerity ” that is being stealth enforced onto the public, right beneath their noses, in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave…like being sold some actual shit but being told your getting a dozen roses.
His tariffs and continued devaluation of the U.S. Dollar since he has been in office continue the globalists overall agenda of restructuring global hegemony and supply and demand. Us “Useless eaters ” in America will be poked, prodded, pissed on, flogged economically with this next economic downturn, in essence, further riled up and loosed upon one another….social media ratcheting up the hate and identity / race politics even further with thr Sanctuary city / illegal immigration clusterfuck in California! Mass deportations!

And the public sold an alternative to the BORDER WALL. Make it a digital wall and tag and release the immigrants so we can track their whereabouts. The affordability of this plan will be sold to the public by political mockingbird mouthpieces and military/industrial/intelligence intelligsta along with Trump!

It always starts with the criminals and immigrants.

Too plausible to discount! Considering the global Big brother trends and this infamous moment during Supreme Court Justice Roberts confirmation hearing.

22 second clip

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Platoplubius
January 1, 2019 1:23 pm

https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2018/april/weakening-us-dollar

This is from earlier in 2018, but shows the accelerated devaluation of the dollar in 2018…

The fundamental questions underlying these interesting observations are:

Whether the weakening of the U.S. dollar is the early manifestation of the medium- or long-term attitudes of investors relative to financial and real investments in the U.S.
Whether those are also associated with a permanent realignment of the engagement of the U.S. economy with the rest of the world

I would argue this is stealth austerity and intentional, but will be blamed on the manifestation of mid to long term investor attitudes (once everyone catches up to the CON game, the “digital herd” is slow to the gates) and necessary for the globalist’ s gleitschlantung or restructuring of the world order where the U.S. falls hard and fast!

Baton down the hatches folks. The eye of the storm is about to pass and a brick wall nears! The same brick wall Frank Zappa mentioned when he said,
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Thunderbird
Thunderbird
  Platoplubius
January 2, 2019 1:41 pm

What if the government defaults on it’s debt and the treasury begins printing a new currency to be used to build infrastructure projects that produce revenue that could pay for it’s financing like what happened with Hoover Dam. Would this be viable in regard to interest free loans to those capable of starting manufacturing companies all over america producing durable goods? Zero interest loans to be paid back and the money taken out of circulation as the debt is paid back.

In the end why should the government pay back it’s current debt when everyone know they were contributing to the fraud congress was committing by buying treasuries backed by nothing. In the private sector the members of congress who voted to run of this absurd level of debt with no conscience would be prosecuted and sent to jail. People who closed their eyes to it and bought the treasuries anyway knowing the country had no means to pay it back shouldn’t fret because they took the risk and lost. This also goes for municipal bonds.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Thunderbird
January 2, 2019 9:41 pm

Trump will nationalize the FED. The treasury can print our money without USURY!!! and repudiate ODIOUS Debt, ie; debt taken on by mattoids to enrich themselves and their friends. Enough of them have trafficked in humans and drugs to have every penny they “0wn” confiscated.

Other consequences?

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
December 31, 2018 10:04 pm

Some pretty BS history in this otherwise interesting piece. The Whiskey Rebellion was actually just a refusal to pay Hamilton’s whiskey tax, which was intended to redeem bonds surreptiously bought up by his banker friends. Washington never got further than western PA, and the frontiersmen never paid the tax, nor could the Feds even get anyone to attempt to collect it..Shortly thereafter, the tax was withdrawn.
Germany and the Soviet Union attacked Poland, and ultimately divided it up. Neither was a threat to Britain, nor was the UK in any position to do anything about it, but the UK declared war only on Germany, not the USSR…Wonder why?!..Britain’s action was suicidal, except that British agents were sure they could convince Uncle Stupid to intervene on their behalf.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  pyrrhus
January 1, 2019 11:50 am

The Whiskey Rebellion was also about the ‘powers that be’ interests in the C&O canal (under construction at the time) vs. a western trade route via the Ohio river.

John Eshleman
John Eshleman
  pyrrhus
January 1, 2019 2:52 pm

I spent the past 30 years2018 marks my 47,000 hours of research.stalin hitler Churchill eisenhower Roosevelt were all jews.zionist.and american tax slaves paid everyone of these players on the world stage.all actors.for the synagogue of satan.period

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
December 31, 2018 10:06 pm

The powers-that -be do NOT want the machine to stop working. They are very close (they think) to getting all of the working, productive citizens of the world under the thrall of enter-surveillance, funded with a cashless system of exchange. When cash goes (and it will) to be replaced by a universal inter-pay system of some sort, you will know that the real time of Turning is at hand.

The trouble is that they don’t know quite as much as they think they do. Thir reach doth exceedeth their grasp. They will succeed for a while, then it will flame out. It is not likely (in my opinion) that nations will be lobbing bombs at each other, but (as Quinn states) smaller groups establishing and defending culturally consistent pieces of dirt, and the systems therein. The questions are how big those pieces of dirt are, and how the cultural consistency (not to be confused with racial or ethnic purity) are accomplished. I also wonder how the perfidious municipal officials will be dealt with, but that might be a lot easier than some fear.

Fascinating times. I might not live more than a couple more years, and I do not know if I want it to speed up so I can enjoy a last bit of action, or slow down so I avoid the maelstrom.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Brian Reilly
January 1, 2019 2:21 am

I think if we go to a cash-less society, people will just start bartering to keep things under the radar. Gold or silver for guns, for example.

OutWithLibs
OutWithLibs
  Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 10:01 am

VV, Or exchanging everyday items such as vegetables from our garden for goats milk from our neighbor. I agree that bartering is going to become a more realistic way of life in the near future…. for those of us here on TBP and who have goods to trade. In a city, living in a condo, and riding the subway to work? Not so much….

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  OutWithLibs
January 1, 2019 10:12 am

Yes, that’s exactly right. I think it will definitely include everyday items but also the things the .gov doesn’t want you to have.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 2:59 pm

Vixen

With social credit systems like China’s, anyone caught bartering or trading with those not part of the Beast system will see their scores decline and eventually this will cease through peer pressure, shunning and enforcement.

Like I said earlier, according to my understanding of the trends, you will be with SOCIETY or AGAINST it, aka a radical, a fundamentalist, a domestic terrorist or an unlawful enemy combatant…where you are afforded NO NATURAL RIGHTS

DJ
DJ
  Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 8:23 pm

I have invested heavily in copper and lead.

TC
TC
December 31, 2018 10:17 pm

If only the people still cherished liberty, there might be hope. No, they only want “security” while being entertained.

BB
BB
  TC
December 31, 2018 10:31 pm

Well we all know our lives will change for the worse at least in the beginning of this confict no matter how it plays out. I have prepared as best I can for my mom and myself. I don’t like where we are (Close to a big city ) but we do have great a neighborhood. All white for now.
I hope we can all stay in touch no matter what happens. I don’t know what else to do unless it’s heading for the Appalachian mountains but my mom will have none of that so here is where I will stay. Me ,my mom ,my cat and soon a big mean dog or two.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  BB
January 1, 2019 2:22 am

I know what you mean, B.B. My elderly mom would never leave, so here I stay as well.

DJ
DJ
  Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 8:26 pm

I’m not leaving either. The only unknown is how many close their eyes with me and open them in eternity.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
December 31, 2018 11:03 pm

I wonder if the financial collapse will be bad enough that bank “bail ins” by depositors will occur in the US or other major Western countries? With all countries in the west making this “legal” since the 2008 event…

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Didius Julianus
January 1, 2019 2:23 pm

The US stealthily passed that BS in 2006. Another Bush legacy.

Big Ed
Big Ed
  Didius Julianus
January 1, 2019 4:35 pm

Thousands of banks went down in the 1930’s and most depositors lost their money..i.e. it has all happened before..

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Big Ed
January 1, 2019 7:25 pm

But, but FDIC! I hear this a lot.

Jon B.
Jon B.
December 31, 2018 11:15 pm

The only wrinkle in that doomsday scenario, is that Congress would NOT be able to rescind 45’s emergency declaration as the Senate would knock DOWN the House’s impertinence…..Not gonna happen….

Skindog
Skindog
December 31, 2018 11:24 pm

Reading this 4th Turning article is a remarkable way to end 2018 !

You hit the ball out of the park with this one.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
December 31, 2018 11:56 pm

Are the next five years “surviveable” if you live in a suburban area?

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Treefarmer
January 1, 2019 8:08 am

Treefarmer, no one can tell. It depends on what exactly happens in the U.S, who is in your area and what happens in your area. If you can move to a rural area, do so. If not, prepare as much as possible.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 1:05 am

I can’t imagine any president threatening to stop Social Security checks. That’s just asking to hang from a lamppost or become a firing-range target.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 1:33 am

The five-year Civil War period is not correct because you fail to include the Reconstruction period, which didn’t end until 1877 after the Hamburg Riot in my own city in S.C. and the two Ned Tennant (black guy) riots in Edgefield, S.C. So the period actually runs 17 years from the beginning of the war to the end of Reconstruction.

After being disarmed after the war, disenfranchised, accorded no civil rights and under military rule and military justice, and constantly harassed by negro militias under the command of corrupt governors, in 1876, some white southern males, who called themselves Red Shirts, who had rearmed since the war, took things into their own hands, killing black militia members in Hamburg after the militia threatened and harassed two white men. In Edgefield, they killed Ned Tennant and members of his gang after they harassed white homeowners. That was the catalyst for the end. And by 1877, Reconstruction finally ended.

I have a written speech by former S.C. Senator Benjamin (Pitchfork) Tillman, who was at all of the above events, that sums it all up nicely. He says these riots and their response to them is what led to the end of Reconstruction.

no one
no one
  Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 9:33 am

A very often overlooked piece of the puzzle. Non-Reconstruction.

Now that I have 40 acres and a few rabbits and goats and chickens, I realize such a prospect might have actually HELPED.

Unfortunately, I don’t have a mule so when they seize MINE to award reparations, we need a mule to be seized for redistribution.

We aren’t kidding ourselves… we know if and when the assault comes, we are in “last stand” mode.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
  Vixen Vic
January 4, 2019 7:02 am

Vixen V…my Great,Great grandfather was a member of the Red Shirts . I’ve heard many tales of their exploits .

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  BUCKHED
January 4, 2019 4:14 pm

That’s absolutely fascinating. You should write down what you remember for your family. And maybe share with us as well. 🙂 The Tillman speech I have is from a Red Shirt anniversary meeting in Anderson, S.C. I wonder if your grandfather attended that.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 1:45 am

” The length of time from the American Revolution climax in 1781 until the Civil War climax in 1863 was 82 years. The next climax in 1944 was 81 years after the Civil War climax. Therefore, we can expect a climax to this current Crisis sometime in the 2025 range. ”

I always wondered why WW1 is never mentioned. It skips from the Civil War to the Great Depression/WWII.

Bad Brad
Bad Brad
  Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 4:17 am

WW I was part of the USA ‘unraveling’ a.k.a. the 3rd Turning.
Our troops went “over there” and did not enter Europe until
almost the end of the War. State side there was little suffering
or loss our actual soil.
It was a European gig. Actually Part 1 followed by Part 2 over
a decade later. Since Germany did not surrender, it was never
a clear victory. Great loss of life but not the ‘winter’ yet.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Bad Brad
January 1, 2019 5:26 am

Thanks for that explanation, Bad Brad.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 11:36 am

The American Revolution did not end until the war of 1812. Skipped that one too. And you are correct WWI – which in many ways redrew more borders than WWII. Meh guess it interferes with the 81 year clock.

oncefired
oncefired
  Anonymous
January 1, 2019 10:44 pm

WWI basically caused WWII because Europe imposed such odious reparations on Germany after they surrendered WWI. The taking of territory and the massive money demands set the conditions for someone like Hitler to come to power and start WWII. This Fourth Turning will most likely encompass the whole world since the Globalist have so interconnected everything. I agree with Jim that any small event could kick off another World War. Looking at other Countries, the US is probably best positioned to come out of a major Depression faster then most because we can basically sustain without imports if forced to, but make no mistake it will take quite a while for things to come back online and many will perish since the Globalists and Deep State hollowed us out with the shit trade deals that screwed us and lined their pockets!

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
January 1, 2019 2:36 am

Admin, this was a great article. It’s a scary scenario and I’m trying get ready for what’s ahead. I think surviving is going to require a lot of mental aspects rather than physical. 2019 is definitely going to be an interesting year. Good luck to all on this site.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 1, 2019 8:02 am

Prep so you can take care of the ones you love. As I read on a blog-

Hard assets.
Hard people.
Hard principles.
Stack ’em broad and deep.
You are going to need them.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Anonymous
January 1, 2019 8:12 am

Good comment, Anonymous.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Anonymous
January 1, 2019 2:34 pm

Ammo is the cheapest it has been in years. 223/5.56 under $6 a box/20 has been a screaming buy any time it is that low for 20 years. 9mm NATO less than $10 box/50 almost unheard of. Try SGAmmo.com. Good people too.

overthecliff
overthecliff
January 1, 2019 8:33 am

Food stamps running out? In other news Baltimore Public Schools graduate 100 graduate in their nuclear physics doctoral program. We wish.

This kind of article brought me to this site and contributors and the comments keep me here.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
January 1, 2019 9:48 am

Other than that….things are pretty good.

OutWithLibs
OutWithLibs
January 1, 2019 10:15 am

It would be the utmost of arrogance to believe our nation will be protected from destruction by an all-powerful God. We’ve made bad choices, deferred hard decisions, squandered our financial resources, allowed our educational system to be corrupted and valued all the wrong things.

There is no intellectual, moral or social instruction anyone can provide the dumbed-down, communist- educated, willing social slaves on what will befall the US because of the control of the evil liberal elites.
Those of us on TBP and a few others “get it”. As another blogger stated here, I pray we can all stay in touch ~ somehow ~ when the skies turn dark and we all have to depend on our own preparation and other like minded neighbors.

May God bless each of you in the upcoming year, and keep us all safe from the evils that come…..

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 1, 2019 10:30 am

Everyone laughed when the December 21, 2012 (Mayan calendar) prophecy came and went and the end of the world didn’t take place. The prophecy, however, was not that the end of the world would take place. Rather, it was that the Mayan long calendar (I think it was) would reach its end, and that the start of a new 20-year period (Katun) would begin; one that would bring devastation of the worst kind.

The year 2025 is the peak (per this article) of the current crisis. If you hold the belief of a seven-year tribulation yet to come, as many Christians do, the timing is provocative: seven years are left from 2025 to finish the katun in 2032.

The Mayan calendar prophecy is still very active and yet to be seen as to its veracity.

no one
no one
  Anonymous
January 1, 2019 1:42 pm

Interesting… I copied this from the site I read… the REAL TEOTWAWKI will be in 2052 or possibly 2072.

https://www.tokenrock.com/mayan/2012-mayan-prophecy/

The Final Katun

The final katun in the sequence that must happen before the new cycle of the katuns begins again is 13 Ahau. This starts in 2032 and ends in 2052. It is the time from 2032 to 2052 that great earth changes may take place.

The translation from the codices about 13 Ahau that starts in 2032 is ‘Famine, plagues of locusts, and loss of rulers. The judgment of God’ Mr. Scofield goes on to elaborate on this katun. ‘This is a time of total collapse where everything is lost. It is the time of the judgment of God. There will be epidemics and plagues and then famine. Governments will be lost to foreigners and wise men and prophets will be lost.’ It is my perception that the great crisis that many fear in 2012 may well start after 2032. An interesting note to this time period is that it did bring great revolution and change during the time period from 1776 to 1796. There was great chaos, trauma and loss of lives and prosperity as the new nation, the United States of America was birthed. During this time period, there were a lot of problems, but, as we all know, something great came out of the upheaval.

The spiritual knowledge that is emerging and utilized now will act as a compass to guide us when the seas of life start to get bumpy after 2032.

The New Cycle

The new cycle of Katuns begins with Ahau 11 that starts in 2052. the prophecy for this Katun is grave.

‘Death from starvation. Great weeping and invading foreigners. Scant rains.’ With this message, you can see that the dire predictions that many have given to 2012 may possibly start after 2032 and continue through the period from 2052 to 2072.

—So, there is THAT all to look forward to, for those who are planning to be around.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  no one
January 2, 2019 6:59 pm

I’d have to say that I don’t follow the article’s time frame for the 2032–2052 period. All of the information about the end of the calendar (the end of the 25,000-year procession of the equinox) and the Katun related to it was in regard to 2012, not 2032. There was nothing ever brought out back when, that I can remember, that had anything to do with the later date.

Ah, it’ll all work out in the wash anyway!

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Anonymous
January 2, 2019 11:07 am

I would be 90 in 2032. It would be interesting to see it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  overthecliff
January 2, 2019 7:00 pm

I’ll be 72.

no one
no one
  Anonymous
January 4, 2019 5:15 pm

I expect to be in another realm. A better place.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
January 1, 2019 10:35 am

Great post Jim! IMO the unpayable mountain of debt is the primary issue. At $22 trillion with only 3% interest we’re facing $660 billion in annual interest payments alone! And it’s not JUST federal debt. As you said corporate debt, pension liabilities, state, city, and personal debts are off the charts.

Keep in mind in each of the ten years following the 2008 crisis congress has failed to produce a single budget! Indeed as you stated, “Pretend and extend has been the solution.” How long can this continue? It continues until it can’t. It keeps getting ignored. No one in politics even gives it a mention.

But the government KEEPS ON GROWING!!! Just a little math tip for my fellow TBP’ers, the rule of 69 (round it to 70 to make the math easier). But divide 70 by the rate of annual growth of anything (budget, population, etc…), and that gives you the number of years it takes for that item to double. So 5% annual growth in the budget implies that they want to DOUBLE the size of the federal government in 14 YEARS!!!! REALLY?

The average Joe on the street has no idea what’s happening right in front of their faces. Sorry for the rant. I know the regulars here at TBP understand all this. The best to all of you in the New Year… Chip

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  SmallerGovNow
January 1, 2019 2:40 pm

I do not have an exact number, yet I recall under Reagan we had budgets in the $550 Billion range. Based on that we are hundreds of percent higher now. I don’t think many have had their incomes increase several hundred percent in thirty years.

gm
gm
  SmallerGovNow
January 1, 2019 9:21 pm

what is this we shit? I owe no odious debt no matter how hard they try to pin that bs

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
January 1, 2019 10:44 am

Almost as soon as you posted this, Admin, it show up on Steve Quayle’s site. He says it’s the “most important article he as read this month” (December). I think it might be the most important article of 2018.

I hope our kids don’t become “cannon fodder”. But I fear that they might.

The all powerful God will not protect our land from foreign invaders. Why should he? We could have been a true leader in the world, and maybe we were for just a minute. But the corrupt elites would never have enough power or money and creating havoc in other countries became our M.O.

A technocratic dictatorship is what lies in our future if we do nothing. And maybe even if we do.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Mary Christine
January 1, 2019 1:09 pm

Your article is also the top article on Best of the Web over at Dollar Collapse. Which is where I think I may have seen my first TBP article years ago.

May your article continue to spread far and wide. It really needs to.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Mary Christine
January 1, 2019 1:38 pm

M.C.

I believe your last sentence will hold true regardless of what we do. Some things are beyond our control.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Platoplubius
January 1, 2019 7:23 pm

It seems to be in the digital cards, Plato.

quatermain
quatermain
January 1, 2019 11:38 am

” when he ordered the enlistment of a half million men ”
A kind way to refer to Lincoln’s unconstitutional draft that nearly opened up a second front in New York. Otherwise a nicely presented and frighteningly prescient article.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  quatermain
January 1, 2019 2:45 pm

The navy shelled parts of New York City during the draft riots. A lot of history is “overlooked” like the actual shooting war with Utah that was suspended because of the need to move all the military back east for the Civil War.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
  quatermain
January 2, 2019 5:34 pm

The reason he got that many men is because they were unemployed and needed a pay check. The North was not in good shape economically while the south was booming. Just like today.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Thunderbird
January 2, 2019 8:28 pm

Don’t forget all the immigrants that became soldiers for the Union Army, especially the Germans. I remember reading about a Confederate soldier at a prison camp who had a German guard who said he would school the Confederate on what America means. The German was another Socialist who knows it all.

Prof. Mandelbrot
Prof. Mandelbrot
January 1, 2019 11:39 am

Seems a plausible start could be the house (dems) impeach Trump with zero evidence. He, like clinton refused to leave. Causing a supposed constitutional crisis (although clinton didnt). In turn he unwraps all the info he has on the coup that hillary and our 3 letter agencies were part of. Including how they all got rich selling 20% of our uranium to russia. They get a dem as president in 2020, fully open the borders and change voting laws truly causing civil rife. Emerging markets and junk bonds crash causing domino effect globally until the ponzi fiat debt scheme self implodes. The mentally ill , lgbtq, crazy libs and femenazi’s et all will force detrimental change backed by the voting tribes of illegals for free welfare. We end up like the UK only with guns until it all breaks loose and then they come hard and fast for the guns and then its really on. I dont think these elites realize we fully understand without guns we submit to known slavery. Their distraction techniques have been overplayed and we are wise to them and will cling to these guns and morals. Every nation will have its own internal fight. This global calamity could easily be one where its the people against their own elitist deep state as we see the beginnings in frances yellow vest movement although theres is slaves asking to be slaves for another spoonful of porridge. The french have never been good at anything other than marching and moaning. We have much worse on the horizon before we clean this mess up. I just hope the bastards that caused it all get their due.

Andrew G.
Andrew G.
January 1, 2019 12:04 pm

We’ve made bad choices, deferred hard decisions, squandered our financial resources, allowed our educational system to be corrupted and valued all the wrong things…….

We? Please don’t include me in your “we.”

Bilco
Bilco
January 1, 2019 12:56 pm

I have noticed that the looks I get are not of someone crazy,but now are looks of concern. As I tell them. “I will be fighting these people”

David Erickson
David Erickson
January 1, 2019 1:17 pm

Excellent, excellent post, however I think instead of “triggered the bloodiest conflict in world history” you meant to say “triggered the bloodiest conflict in U.S. history”.

unit472
unit472
January 1, 2019 1:36 pm

Hard to find any holes in Quinn’s essay though the crisis may not start in the USA. As much as we may be politically and ethnically divided we are pretty united economically. Whites, Asians and Latinos all want to make money and the negro wants them to too as they depend on the efforts of others to provide for them. Democrat extremists suffering from TDS may be willing to destroy the economy to get at Trump but no one else is.

It is Europe that I worry about. How can a system rigged to favor Germany/Netherlands at the expense of the PIGS endure? Their overall debt to GDP may not be any worse than ours but the ability of the PIGS to service said debt is. In fact, the ECB may already be insolvent. Among its ‘assets’ are the bonds of the PIGS and every zombie bank and corporation in Europe. Imagine if the Fed held the bonds of Illinois, GE, Sears etc. If the UK ‘crashes out’ of the EU at the end of March the EU won’t get its £39 billion divorce settlement and the EU will either have to trim its budget or get Germany and the few other member states with the fiscal room to make up the shortfall. That would probably see the end of Merkel! If PM May shoves her ‘deal’ down the throats of the British people it won’t just be the French rioting in the streets so I expect some real trouble in Europe this spring.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  unit472
January 1, 2019 3:25 pm

The “turnings” as described in the article are real in one sense but in another are not. Imagine a child on a swing. They begin to swing but it slows down. Someone behind them begins to push gently on the back side of the arch in which they swing. Each push is barely felt but sends them higher and higher into greater danger if they should fall.

The “turning” as presented says – we cannot overcome what is happening and will happen. So the only thing we can do is accept it. Very convenient for those behind the scene that are pushing.

Think about it.
I may be wrong BUT I DON’T THINK SO!

Benign
Benign
January 1, 2019 2:08 pm

Martin Armstrong’s models see the peak of the war cycle in 2028. Pray for POTUS.

mark
mark
January 1, 2019 2:19 pm

A tour de force Admin…

Not that I needed the prodding but I will continue to pray..and add to all catogories of Preps as that is all I can impact and control.

Daniel
Daniel
January 1, 2019 3:16 pm

The “turnings” as described in the article are real in one sense but in another are not. Imagine a child on a swing. They begin to swing but it slows down. Someone behind them begins to push gently on the back side of the arch in which they swing. Each push is barely felt but sends them higher and higher into greater danger if they should fall.

The “turning” as presented says – we cannot overcome what is happening and will happen. So the only thing we can do is accept it. Very convenient for those behind the scene that are pushing.

Think about it.
I may be wrong BUT I DON’T THINK SO!

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
January 1, 2019 3:32 pm

To worn down to run so I will make a stand regardless of the final outcome there will be some who decide to not leave me alone and will wake with a crowd around them , if they wake at all !
I have no dillusions that I will not be taken down eventually but not without a fight !
FORGET ME NOT

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Boat Guy
January 1, 2019 4:04 pm

Old f’ers need to concentrate on long range. We need a lot of distance between us and them. Gives the opportunity to escape, or the time to get a bunch of them before they get us. I’m in better shape than many my age, but have no illusions about outrunning anything too many times or for very far.

Goose
Goose
  Harrington Richardson
January 2, 2019 8:51 am

From another old Guy disenclined to retreat, my prayer and once a week a burnt offering in the form of gunpowder ignited. Did you offer up a burnt offering this week with your prayers?

Lord, make me fast and accurate
Let my aim be true and my hand faster
Than those who seek to distroy me
Grant me victory over my foes
Let NOT my last thought be;
If I only had my gun

And Lord if today is truly the
Day you call me home
LET ME DIE
IN A PILE OF EMPTY BRASS
anonymous

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
  Goose
January 3, 2019 6:29 am

Amen

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit
  Boat Guy
January 6, 2019 12:32 pm
Pete
Pete
January 1, 2019 4:51 pm

I don’t think it matters. I mean two prior Fourth Turnings are hardly a valid sample size to make any kind of prediction about outcomes; however the writer does say that “Every total war has ratcheted up the level of death and destruction, as technological “advancements” enhance our war making abilities.” So what if the ratio between the death tolls of Civil War and WWII remained consistent and were applied to the next conflict? That would mean that over 6,000,000,000 would perish. Total annihilation indeed. I wonder what Dr Strangelove would say.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Pete
January 2, 2019 2:57 pm

Your math fits neatly in with regard to the Georgia Guidestones 1st mandate and Samuel Huntingtons’ fanatics ideology.
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Loadnup
Loadnup
  Pete
January 3, 2019 8:01 pm

Suggest you read the book… Fourth Turnings have been going on since the roman ages… the book outlines all of those before it even talks about the US… make no mistake this is the last and final stage of this Fourth Turning and like it or not we will have to live through it, if we do…. yes, i said “we.”

Arizona
Arizona
January 1, 2019 5:24 pm

YES there will be a high tech war,BUT the weapons they’ll use are to powerful,THE LORD,says their use will cause the PLANET EARTH TO CHANGE ORBIT around the sun,AND PLACE IT DIRECTLY INTO THE PATH OF A PASSING COMET,and earth will be hit,killing almost everyone on earth,HE said after this event,the planet will become UNINHABITABLE FIVE YEARS LATER,So the coming war will kill almost everyone,and at a later date they’ll die to,THIS IS THE FUTURE IF THERE A WAR….maybe its time to disamble the war machine america,OR face death,if theres anymen who care…and I doubt there are….

AC
AC
January 1, 2019 5:38 pm

I think we may be past ‘Don’t Tread On Me,”

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Wish we were headed someplace better, but we’re not.

DJ
DJ
January 1, 2019 8:19 pm

Civil war is inevitable. 300 to 600 million firearms with the majority held by pro Trump supporters. Ownership does not equal marksmanship. 20 million Veterans with Trump support around 67%. There’s not enough Military of Law Enforcement. I believe they will split.

Political assassinations, bombings, ambushes and guerrilla warfare. Every elected official and every government agent becomes a target. There will be no turning back.

To those who think the Military and the Police can save us, they can’t. I lived the 12 street riots, Detroit 67. It took the Michigan State Police, Detroit Police, Michigan National Guard, elements of the 8nd Airborne and the 101st Airborne a week to restore order in a relatively small geographical area.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot

To add to it the Democrats and War Hawk Republicans are pushing for a War with Russia and China.

The Fourth Turning best described as Insanity.

One of your best Jim.

Ivan
Ivan
  DJ
January 1, 2019 11:32 pm

It’s what they want, stir the pot watch it boil over.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Ivan
January 2, 2019 3:03 pm

Ivan,

Social engineering as an art form, at least for the dark side.

And…Destabilization campaigns tend to do stir and , as Naomi Klein referred to it, SHOCK us because we have become so desensitized….ever more and more SHOCK is needed…all part of the Shock Doctrine.

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  DJ
January 2, 2019 10:00 am

Detroit was preceded by the Newark riots a week earlier when about 15,000 rounds (documented) went flying into the hood.

You can thank daddy Romney for what went down in Detroit.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
January 1, 2019 8:19 pm

Thanks, I always find personal motivation in your writing and have been hooked since first reading in 2011. I would like to think I have decently prepared, but you never know. The image you posted in Years of the Modern, the Old Man, stays with me, an image I will always associate with the 4th Turning and The Burning Platform.
Each and every update has been most welcome, chronicles of the 4th. Perhaps through it all, TBP will evolve into a celebratory site, after the crisis has played out, and societal transformation has obviated the need for doom porn. Thanks again.

Chuck
Chuck
January 1, 2019 8:52 pm

A few days ago, my wife asked me out of the blue where I see the US going. For her, this is very atypical. If she is seeing things getting to the point she feels concerned, we are well and truly fucked. I don’t see how we come out of this as a single entity. I think the TV show Jericho may be a glimpse of where we’re headed.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
January 1, 2019 9:01 pm

It is very tempting to think “it’s different this time”…it is never different….the specifics change the trajectory does not. Trump for better or worse is the Grey Champion of this cycle, providing the rallying center for the “good guys”……If he prevails he will be regarded an equal Washington and Lincoln. If defeated, I guess I won’t be around anyways.

“Don’t worry if you are not now a warrior, soon, very soon, you will be” The 13th Warrior

gm
gm
January 1, 2019 9:14 pm

Alex , I’ll take Privately Owned Central Banks for $1000.00 .
What ? Double jeopardy?
Are you shitting me? POCB’s control all this shit?

Whatever Alex
Answer : Wake the Fuck Up !
Everything else is just theatre
Just a cook be well lol

Larry Deavenport
Larry Deavenport
January 1, 2019 9:51 pm

As always a great article.

TPC
TPC
January 1, 2019 9:54 pm

Naively, I used to think that if Trump were just a better President, we MIGHT make it out of this 4T somewhat peaceably.

Obviously I was wrong. Every time he tries to do anything that might even tangentially help the American people our entire government and the vast majority of politicians move against him.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  TPC
January 2, 2019 12:08 am

The vast majority of DC swamp rats are against Trump…..some State and Local pols are awesome. DC is not everything. Strauss and Howe are a great roadmap but only a map…..lots of unexpected stuff is coming our way….but the table is now set for the climax of this cycle all we can do is hold on like grim death. There is nowhere to run we win and preserve freedom here or die trying.

Door. Ass. Bang
Door. Ass. Bang
  TPC
January 3, 2019 5:48 am

Did you expect the globalist totalitarian deep state and their Repubocrat unipartei whores to just go away on their own accord? Nope. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of them will have to be forcibly removed. From the very top to the lowly leftist Twittards.

dunno y
dunno y
January 2, 2019 3:50 am

When life gives you lemons drink the water instead. Depop programs don’t need war they need dysfunction in distraction during this egregious planned era. War will be the death of a western Polly they now this as the SATCOM debacle just showed us because of the fear of nukes. No such thing as a soft war.
“The specific events are unknowable” The events are only a means they don’t matter when apathy isn’t prepared to show the raging bull the deadly snake,the journey will be reflected in the aftermath not during. That reflection is a gift for humanity in a future time. This article follows the UN timeline almost to the year. 2019 agenda 21, 2025 Deagal.com and 2029 agenda 2030. Dystopia is like a spanked kid kind of soothing in the crying aftermath but never truly comfortable and that’s exactly how life should be till we can genuinely laugh again. A globalist tune, what we need is a great big melting pot, so turn up the gas to boil the lot. How much gas have they got?. At what stage do we try and jump out of the pot. Stay tuned it’s all happening. Oh excuse me I talk to much I know and like the sound of my own mind but as I explain the 4th turning to others I get back this all to often. “Oh I don’t waste my time with that I’m to busy looking good”. Corpses in makeup never look good I say. Seed planted.

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
January 2, 2019 10:03 am

Two years of more slow downward grind for the Trump apologists.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer

Hey popgun, how badly were you bullied in school? In the internet era trying to be one of the cool kids is just not working out for you……sorry. Nobody here is a Trump apologist, we don’t care about Trump except to the extent he is useful in fighting the deep state and slowing or (the slimmest chances) of reversing the descent into hell. Please spend more time outside of mommy’s basement, put your big boy pants on and get into the real world.

Gord
Gord
January 2, 2019 10:18 am

Volatility is at an all time high that’s for sure, with the violence taking place all over the country against Trump supporters it’s amazing cooler heads have prevailed, I think if President Trump is harmed or one of his family members is harmed it could be the spark that changes everything and another turning of history will be made once again.
I’m mostly optimistic for 2019, President Trump flushed out the swamp, now it’s time to stamp out the swamp.