Pregnant Mare’s Urine (Premarin) linked to Alzheimers? (Warning! Sensational Title to Draw Attention!)

I hoped to get a certain New Commenter’s opinion and ask him to take a look at Dr. Jay Nielsen’s work on Endocrinology, Hormone therapy and memory issues. (Thoughts,  Known Associate?)

 

I will try to make some time pointer notes to add in comments, but hoped to get the opinion of a new commenter (long time lurker) who attended the gathering last summer and has tremendous experience in pharmaceuticals.  He has offered to share some of his own knowledge with TBP, and I hope he will take a look at Dr. Nielsen’s videos when he has time and comment on his discussion of corrupt practices at the FDA during Nielsen’s time there.

The discussion on Premarin begins around the 20 minute mark, I believe.  He explains what these hormones really are and the problems he believes the FDA knows to be linked to them.

Warning to Stucky:  He does mention “Mercola” as another online medical source, but only in passing.

I hope others find “healing” in Dr. Nielsen’s very practical advice.  I know several folks who are a lot healthier for his efforts.  And, prepared for upcoming events.

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Tim
Tim
  M G
September 13, 2019 4:43 pm

Having spent a bunch of years in El Paso, I know that EC probably loves it. I never could get beyond the fact that it’s a……tongue.

That, and menudo. Caldo de culos, as far as I’m concerned.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Tim
September 13, 2019 5:16 pm

The manufacturing of Premarin is beyond cruel and hideous. What happens to the horses? What happens to the mares? The mares are kept pregnant and confined in small stalls, the foals are taken from the mother and often sent to slaughter. Those cute little hide purses? Baby foals. Mares are also sent to slaughter and for what? So that menopausal women can feel younger?

HRT is controversial in itself. Links to cancer, heart disease, stroke and other ailments have come as a result of HRT. Premarin is old school,
Watch this video and then ask about taking something as vile as Premarin.

Steve C
Steve C
  M G
September 14, 2019 12:42 am

Since I can’t think of a single thing to say about pregnant mare’s urine – surprisingly it’s a topic that just doesn’t seem to come up with friends over lunch – I will comment on the rare culinary delight of ‘tongue’.

Actually, I don’t really know if it’s a culinary delight, but I did try it once. There is a Mexican restaurant on the north side of Houston that is known to serve it just right. Things must be pretty desperate when your restaurant is known for tongue, but I digress. A friend of mine took me there once so that I could experience all the pleasures and nuances of the dish.

Actually, it was pretty good. It was tender and surprisingly I didn’t gag on just the thought of it.

Unfortunately, I found that as a side effect I developed an irresistible urge to head towards any salt licks on all the farms around here. It took me a while to get over that…

That was about twenty years ago and I haven’t been back for another go at it so that says something about how much of a culinary delight it was, but it was good.

I guess it was one of those things that it’s nice to have done, but if someone asks if you want to do it again you say ‘thank you, no’.

Known Associate
Known Associate
  M G
September 13, 2019 8:17 pm

Hey MG, Not sure what i started, though i can say that endocrinology, HRT, etc, are not really in my wheelhouse. More of an operations guy with a chemistry background.

Just the same, here is a little jingle that came to me years ago…

Once upon a time, the medical profession discovered diseases and invented medicines to treat them with. Lately, the medical industry discovers drugs and invents diseases to treat with them.

K Ass

M G
M G
  Known Associate
September 13, 2019 9:14 pm

Am just opening dialogue…

Has been MIA for me here for.a time.

Thank for the honest answer. When ai saw you had Pharma research background I got over eager!

TBP is open to all areas of intelligent discussion. At least I believe so. Of course, some are willing to fight harder for stuff.

Known Associate
Known Associate
  M G
September 14, 2019 9:18 am

Thanks M G, i was an active research scientist in organic chem (drug design) for years, before moving on to the business side of science. That’s where you see the serious issues with the substitution of profit-driven motives over actual ethical medical care. The industry has a way of figuring out how to “medicalize” pretty much any normal “condition”, and find most of the opportunities in age-related factors that are simply the normal consequences of getting older.

K Ass

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 13, 2019 5:56 pm

Mare piss? This reminds me of the world’s funniest joke…
http://gwally.com/humor/000501.php

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Iska Waran
September 13, 2019 6:09 pm

That’s not funny.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Iska Waran
September 13, 2019 8:54 pm

Yes, funny.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Llpoh
September 13, 2019 9:01 pm

Only men find it funny….it says so right there at the top of the page…..

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
September 14, 2019 12:49 am

Yes, funny.

Or in its original Canadian:

Funny eh?

Steve C.

TC
TC
September 13, 2019 8:17 pm

Watched the videos you posted in the last thread. There were a couple things that were a bit puzzling since he kind of skated over them (and maybe I just missed it…)
1. how would “screen time” affect a female’s thyroid?
2. he’s suggesting males take 10mg of cialis every day to indirectly normalize testosterone? That seemed contrary to the rest of his manta (not to mention excessive and expensive.)

ILuv\vCO2
ILuv\vCO2
  TC
September 13, 2019 9:06 pm

I got that. Anti-pharma, but take cialis every day, ah, no, don’t need it anyway, but that does not seem right. I’m with you CZ.

M G
M G
  ILuv\vCO2
September 13, 2019 9:22 pm

Some of his stuff is out there…however, some just makes sense!

cz
cz
  ILuv\vCO2
September 14, 2019 12:04 am

doesn’t seem right to me either, ILuv.
anyone pushing big pharm is suspect.

M G
M G
  TC
September 13, 2019 9:20 pm

I am crosschecking this reference with a guy who recommended it. I am gonna straight up aak his wife!

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
September 13, 2019 10:18 pm

Mom took premarin – got Alzheimer’s. Mother in law took premarin – got Alzheimer’s. Sister in law took premarin – showing significant early signs of Alzheimer’s. Wife knows better than to fuck with mother nature or support that kind of animal abuse. Not a scientific study, but if true, expect as serious a coverup as is going on with vaccines and autism.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  MrLiberty
September 13, 2019 11:17 pm

I remember being told how we are what we eat. I eat meat and know that it is humanely slaughtered (oxymoron there) because I know the folks who raise the animals. I do believe when cruelty is involved in ingesting something that cruelty will affect the persons ingesting it.
As to HRT, I had a doctor push real hard to get me on horomones, I refused. I think there’s a reason things happen as we get older and taking hormones to attempt to maintain an illusive youth upsets a balance. My personal research indicated that HRT, especially for older women was often associated with a host of ills, cancer being on top.
Glad to know that you and your wife are enlightened and intelligent.

M G
M G
  Mygirl...maybe
September 14, 2019 4:52 am

Pain during slaughtering causes release of stress hormones that can taint the meat.

One shot. One thump. One stab.

Let’s try again. It is a new day.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  M G
September 14, 2019 10:22 am

I imagine you’re familiar with the work of Temple Grandin. She’s the autistic woman who through her autism learned to understand animal behaviour. It was Temple who studied slaughterhouses and told them to bring the cattle to the kill chute via a circular path because doing so would prevent them from knowing what was ahead. She said ‘just because nature is cruel doesn’t mean we have to be.’

M G
M G
  MrLiberty
September 14, 2019 4:50 am

I am doing the research because my father died of Alzheimer’s. I am trying to stave off nature’s way with nature’s medicine.

The Cialis is to stimulate progesterone or testosterone production. So…what is the “natural” thing in Cialis?

DHEA? Saw Palmetto oil? Surely whatever Cialis does some natural thing can do?

So, I think Dr. Nielsen’s stuff is practical but I agree about Cialis. Still…we may ask Doc about it.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  M G
September 14, 2019 10:38 am

Cialis and drugs like it are vasodilators, they open up veins and enhance blood flow. The presumption is that the venous system becomes less flexible and narrows with time and with certain diseases blood flow decreases and areas like the brain suffer from the depletion of oxygen.

There are foods that can help with vaso dilation…also, aerobic exercises and not sitting too long. There was a study of a group of nuns who lived to be quite old. They allowed the researchers to examine their brains after death. What was discovered in one sister was that even though there was evidence of enhanced brain tissue deterioration similar to that seen in Alzheimers, the sister had maintained a lively intelligence up to the time of her death. She continued to read and work crosswords and engage her mind.

When I was 42 I returned to grad school to work on an MFA. Doing so required that I did extensive library research and one day while pondering some rather vexing issue in the library I felt a mental snap, like someone had literally snapped a rubber band INSIDE my head. That strange phenomenon was followed by a feeling of increased awareness and an enhanced ability to process information. The brain, in a sense, is a muscle, and like they say about muscle tissue, use it or lose it.

What happens in many instances is that the organ affected creates new neural and circulatory pathways to bypass the damaged areas. The same thing can happen with lung and heart tissue and the liver can actually regenerate itself. Lots of blood in a liver.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods-that-increase-blood-flow