The Conspiracies are Broad and Deep

By Doug “Uncola” Lynn via TheBurningPlatform.com

 

The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition

– Saul Alinsky, “Rules for Radicals”

 

Accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it to create confusion.

– Marxist maxim

 

Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

– George Orwell, “1984”

 

I’m just a normal guy who started a blog three years ago, so I won’t claim to be officially credentialed for political commentary. I’m not a boots-on-the-ground reporter or even a writer, per se, although I was published nationally before my blogging career; just primarily pursuant to business and technical concerns.  Regardless, given our times, I feel I’d be remiss for not sharing my personal observations – even if that is all I have: observations.  Hence, the blog.

In past articles, such as “Breakfast Club: Dining with Friends”, and “The Persistence of Their Delusion is Despicable”, and “The Rants of the Libtards Ring Hollow then Echo”, I’ve written about my conversations with friends who are politically liberal; or, at least, more liberal than I.  This past weekend, another such conversation began during breakfast with a snide remark about the “deep state impeaching Trump”.  Of course, my democratic and Republican in Name Only (RINO) friends don’t believe in the deep state. But they do believe everything written in The New York Times and The Washington Post and that yours truly is an extreme right-wing, tinfoil-hat adorned, conspiracy theorist.

As I passionately decimated their arguments, they kept saying “let me speak…, let me speak” right up to the point a thirty-something young lady dining at an adjacent table with her husband and young children jumped to my defense and yelled at my friends:  “You are the ones who keep interrupting HIM!”

I had to laugh at that, because at that point I was discussing how San Fran Nan (Pelosi) may have inconsolably angered the silent majority with her latest impeachment gambit derived from “Operation Ukraine”. And, this, just as the “Socialist Clown Show” plays nationwide during the Democratic Presidential Primaries.

I said:  “The Democrats have nothing. Absolutely nothing real to offer.”

The RINO kept trying to pin me down on the transcript of Trump’s July 25, 2019 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky with questions like:

“Did Trump, at first, financially hold up what Zelensky desired?”

“Did Trump request a favor from a foreign power that could be used against his U.S. political opponent, Joe Biden?”

“Was an agreement made?”

The main thrust being, according to the RINO, that these violated the U.S. Constitution, which the Democrat at our table claimed Pelosi was trying to protect.

Beyond the risibility of Pelosi’s concern for the Constitution, I refused to accept their premise that Trump was acting solely to benefit his 2020 election chances. He was, instead, I argued, on a mission to discover the origins of the now-debunked Russiagate Operation as well as rooting out the Obama Administration’s corrupt past involvement in Ukrainian affairs.

And this really goes to the heart of the American divide on Operation Ukraine.  For those on the Political Left, who view Trump as a self-seeking traitor, this latest effort is merely the continuation of Operation Russiagate.  For Trump supporters, however, the transcript of Trump’s phone call revealed a seemingly earnest effort to fulfill his 2016 campaign promises of draining the swamp and making America great again.

The American rift is, indeed, very real and the breach is growing wider.  In fact, it now appears to be a matter of survival for those on both sides of the political aisle and Trump’s mere single mention of the word “CrowdStrike” to the Ukrainian President is akin to the first shot being fired at Fort Sumter during the beginning of America’s first civil war.  For those unaware, CrowdStrike is the cybersecurity firm located dead center within the U.S. Intelligence Agencies’ Russiagate Operation which has maliciously undermined Donald Trump’s presidency for the last three years. The phony Russian “golden shower” dossier and unsubstantiated reports from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) contractor, CrowdStrike, represent what one might call razor thin or hanging by a thread “proof” of Russia’s alleged hacking of the U.S. 2016 Presidential Election.

Yet, exactly like Russiagate, the psychological defense mechanisms of Projection and Displacement are being utilized in this latest initiative, with the whistleblower in Operation Ukraine being the new “dirty dossier” of Operation Russiagate’s former glory days.

Furthermore, there is no doubt  that Operation Ukraine’s Whistleblower’s Complaint was quite carefully crafted with the vague legal objective of forcing Attorney William Barr to recuse himself from any ongoing investigations; or perhaps only from those inquiries regarding the involvement of U.S. intelligence officials colluding with foreign nations toward the goal of overturning a U.S. Presidential Election.  Or, it could be said that Operation Ukraine, at the very least, is meant to simultaneously defang Attorney General Barr both legally and in the eyes of the American public prior to any forthcoming Russiagate disclosures by Inspector General Michael Horowitz and U.S. Attorney John Durham.

In any event, like Russiagate’s dirty dossier, the carefully constructed CIA Whistleblower’s Complaint within Operation Ukraine is evidence of collusion and, in fact, meets the threshold for the text-book definition of “conspiracy”.

Still, most Americans remain fooled.

At a get together in a church on Sunday, I listened to an elderly gentleman and “youngish” female boomer lament the “toxicity” in Washington D.C.  Although no specific names were mentioned, it seemed to me they both blamed Trump – the woman in particular because she commented on how “diversity was a good thing” because, after all, her son-in-law worked at a plant that employed many people from India.  Nice people.  Good people.

Of course, so many Americans, including my breakfast friends, believe unity is obtained through diversity. Yet, at the same time, they eschew ideological diversity in favor of psychological conformity; even taken to the extremes whereupon melanin and genitalia supercede disparate thoughts and perspectives. Just as many people today seek salvation through their tiny houses and smart cars, the Unity via Diversity crowd are self-justified by their virtue signaling. It really is like a religion. But a new religion that makes national borders immoral, parochial, and out of style.

And this is why Trump is considered to be a selfish pig by those who currently desire a new president.  Trump is a divider; a xenophobic racist. He builds walls instead of bridges.

Indeed, this last weekend was a reminder regarding the logic of the mob, as well as the difference between propaganda and conspiracy.  Most people don’t want to believe in conspiracy. Or, dare I say: “critical thinking”.  It’s just another reason why the intelligence of the American Body Politic should never be overestimated.

For many years now, Joe Biden’s maleficence in Ukraine has been known by anyone with a computer, an internet connection, and a modicum of curiosity; including, yours truly, a genuine nobody who wrote about it near 2.5 years ago in a piece entitled “Dogs of War: Fight to the Death”.  That article was posted just hours before the nation of Syria was bombed by Trump for the first time and my main point, now, is this:  If I (and others) knew about these events so many years ago, then that should remove any doubt in anyone’s mind as to the continuing complicity of the Orwellian Media in these odious international affairs (then and now):

In November of 2013 when, Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovych abandoned an agreement on closer trade ties with the European Union and, instead, sought closer co-operation with Russia, it began a series of events which then transitioned into the natural gas wars of 2014, and the Ukrainian coup in February, 2014 during the winter Olympics of that year.

This all, in turn, caused Russia to make the decision to annex Crimea in March 2014. Then, Russia signed a $400 billion “Holy Grail” gas deal with China in May and this gave the Petrodollar a nice kick in the nuts.

In June of that year, Ukraine, at the behest of the Western globalists, refused to pay its gas bill to Moscow’s Gazprom, so Russia cut off their gas. Soon after that MH17 was shot out of the sky and Joe Biden’s son’s company began preparing to drill for shale gas in eastern Ukraine.

The “memory hole” in George Orwell’s 1984 was a chute connected to an incinerator and served as the mechanism by which the Ministry of Truth would abolish historical archives.  With Operation Ukraine, today’s Ministry of Truth needed to accomplish two primary goals:  First, to magnify Trump’s guilt while, secondly, whitewashing former Vice President Joe Biden (and son’s) previous “involvement” in Ukraine.

And this is exactly what has happened.  Trump has, once again, been slandered as guilty by the Orwellian Media just as Biden & Son were concurrently vindicated via articles such as these:

 

The gas tycoon and the vice president’s son: The story of Hunter Biden’s foray into Ukraine

 

‘Enough’: Trump’s ex-homeland security adviser ‘disturbed,’ ‘frustrated’ by Ukraine allegations, says president must let 2016 go

 

Former Ukraine prosecutor says he saw no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden

 

All of these headlines emerge on hundreds of millions of cell phones and devices, as the spin machines ceaselessly cycle.  At the time of this writing, stories are being generated about how Adam Schiff (D-CA), the ranking member of the U.S. House Intelligence Committee, plans to hold President Trump “accountable”:

“The president used that opportunity to try to coerce that leader to manufacture dirt on his opponent and interfere in our election,” Schiff told ABC News Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos, referring to Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy. “I can’t imagine a series of facts more damning than that.”

But, paradoxically, in 2018, Schiff was caught red-handed colluding with a foreign-power in order to undermine the President of the United States. The fact the congressman was pranked by Russian comedians is beside the point.  Schiff clearly cooperated with whom he perceived as foreign assets.  Why is this not considered relevant by the Orwellian Media? Obviously, some questions answer themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7mzoZvSbAM

Orwell’s memory-hole works overtime in America today, as propaganda reigns. These are, in fact, a double-whammy.  A one-two punch.

And most people don’t stand a chance.

Even if desktop reporters and internet sleuths wanted to discover the truth today, they would find it quite difficult. One reason, in the example of Operation Ukraine, is because search engines answering queries for “Biden’s Son” or “Hunter Biden” favor the online encyclopedia, Wikipedia, which states the following about the gas company, “Bursima Holdings”, that previously employed Hunter Biden:

There is no evidence that Hunter Biden was ever under investigation by the government of Ukraine, or that Vice President Biden sought the removal of [prosecutor Viktor] Shokin to protect Hunter Biden or Burisma Holdings.

Now, if you research the online link-attribution listed at the end of that Wikipedia statement, you will see articles sourced to a think-tank identified as The Annenberg Public Policy Center as well as other Orwellian Media outlets.   The Annenberg Public Policy Center is subsidized by the University of Pennsylvania, and the Annenberg Foundation, with an office in Washington DC – and describes FactCheck.org as one of its “most notable initiatives”.

Fair and balanced? Probably not.

Furthermore, it is interesting that on Wikipedia’s “Hunter Biden/Bursima Holdings” section, the online encyclopedia very conveniently posts a “more information” link to their “Trump–Ukraine controversy” page – which has been growing every day, even now to the point of addressing various “conspiracy theories”.  These conspiracies include speculations regarding the leftist mogul George Soros, the CIA “whistleblower”, and the DNC cyber-security contractor Crowdstrike.  Accordingly, it appears very determined digital fingers are pointed at Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani as well as “right-wing discussion forums on the Internet” engaging in “disorganized speculation, racism and misogyny”; all the while very cautiously minimizing the Ukrainian shenanigans of the Biden boys.  Of course, the page is rife with many additional citations from The Washington Post and The New York Times as well.

No matter where one stands today in regards to American politics, one thing is very clear:  We are in the midst of a narrative war.

On September 27, 2019 Fox News host Tucker Carlson discussed Operation Ukraine in a direct way.  But if one searches Google or YouTube, it appears they have scrubbed it from their internet pages.  Here is the episode linked on another site, but if you search “Tucker Carlson tonight 9/27/19” you will see many disconnected clips all shortened to between 1 to 42 seconds; even if Tucker’s 9/27/18 full show (on the Kavanaugh affair!), past episodes, and tonight’s episode, all remain available on YouTube in their entirety.

It is possible the entire Operation Ukraine, also known as Russiagate Part Deux, could be the result of panic on behalf of The Establishment?  Could this be because Team Trump is about to go on offense?  Is Trump playing for real this time? Or, will the president just tweet away while the nation burns?

Projection and hypocrisy are, indeed, the standard modi operandi of both deep state operatives and wild-eyed collectivists. But one wonders how much of the silent majority actually understands what is happening now. Some recent polls showing Trump hovering around 50% could be indicating sympathy for the ever-harassed president among the great unwashed; even as CNBC has reported support for Trump’s impeachment inquiry rising.

And now it appears the stakes are higher than ever before as recent revelations seemingly illustrate Team Trump’s diligence in discrediting Operation Russiagate and the bogus investigation of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

One also wonders if these new Operation Ukraine allegations against Trump could be just another scene from the ongoing, never-ending, reality TV series that has, once again, been taken off “pause”.

Regardless, the plot thickens as things are just beginning to really heat up.

In January 2019, Nancy Pelosi’s strategic new rules for the 116th Congress  created “her own mini DOJ inside the legislative branch” in order to ease congressional impeachment efforts against President Trump.  But also interesting, was how fast Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell fast-tracked Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s resolution to hand the CIA Whistleblower’s complaint to congressional intelligence committees:

One of the most pressing questions of the hectic Tuesday involved why Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell chose to counter his block-everything legacy and fast-track the resolution. (McConnell chose to “hotline” the motion, meaning he bypassed normal Senate procedures to move Schumer’s request to a vote without floor debate.)

It has also been reported that the U.S. Intelligence community “eliminated a requirement that whistleblowers must provide first-hand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings” just weeks after Trump’s July 25, 2019 “Crowdstrike” phone call to the Ukrainian President.  Although, Wikipedia, and The Washington Post, and the Office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community has since labeled the alleged form change as a fake news conspiracy theory. This is because Operation Ukraine’s CIA Whistleblower used a “new form” utilized since May 24, 2018 that did “not require whistleblowers to possess first-hand information in order to file a complaint or information with respect to an urgent concern” and that the CIA Whistleblower also claimed to possess “both  first-hand  and  other  information”.

Seems legit, right?

Nevertheless, is it possible Operation Ukraine is a trap? Obviously, but for whom?  Because if impeachment efforts fail, then the optics will be very bad for the Deep State and the Democrats – which could, very likely, result in Trump winning the 2020 Presidential Election.

Or it could all just be another Red vs. Blue cage fight as the exit doors are locked before the arena burns.

Stay frosty.

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Author: Uncola

I am one who has found the road less traveled while remaining a whiskered, whispering witness to the world. I hope what you just considered was worth the price and time spent. www.TheTollOnline.com

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Dan
Dan
October 1, 2019 7:21 am

Well said. Yep, this saga is yet another example of how the Left projects it’s own sins onto their enemies: whatever they are accusing you of, you can be sure THEY are very guilty of!

So, based on what I’ve been piecing together from among the various sane media outlets over the last few days, I would hypothesize that the (entirely-proper) conversation between Trump and the new Ukrainian president 8 weeks ago, has sent the Swamp into a panic. This impeachment-theater is for the purposes of hiding/covering up/distracting from a MASSIVE amount of political spying, corruption, and quid pro quo that is about to come out about the Obamination and his regime. If the amounts of money & corruption involved are true, I see no way the DOJ CANNOT indict Obama, HiLAIRy, Biden, plenty of GOPe rats (like McStain), and a ton of his minions (but we shouldnt hold our breath on that…. ). I also find it probable that this saga threatens to expose how US military equipment & CIA assets were used, or God help us if they actively participated in, the Ukrainian coup/Crimea/Russian fiasco from 2014 that nearly started a war between Russia & NATO.

If the Ukrainians have proof that BO wanted them to do *exactly what they are accusing Trump of,* and the DemonRats continue with their Impeachment-theater w/any kind of cuck-GOPe support, this is going to spark a civil war. These fools are playing with firecrackers in a warehouse full of nitroglycerin!

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  Dan
October 1, 2019 7:49 am

Victoria Nuland is at the heart of your theory which is spot on IMO… Chip

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  SmallerGovNow
October 1, 2019 9:55 am

Much like Joe Biden Nuland bragged about overthrowing Ukraine with $5B, she thought it was an efficient well-executed effort. http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/february/09/victoria-nulands-ukraine-gate-deceptions.aspx

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  SmallerGovNow
October 1, 2019 10:05 am

Dont forget the spider, Vallerie Jarret, whom has crawled into a dark hole.

M G
M G
  Dan
October 1, 2019 8:07 am

I am glad you brought up the possible use of US military assets in places they should not be.

There has not been enough info about the transfer of technology SecSt Clinton authorized for donations to Clinton Foundation…where is Chelsea?

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
  M G
October 2, 2019 12:25 pm

Are you talking about present day or all the dirty shit that went down in the 90’s?

😉

M G
M G
  22winmag w/o tagline
October 3, 2019 7:15 am

It started in 90s.

Blockhead
Blockhead
  M G
October 2, 2019 8:50 pm

Chelsea is still upset that she will not be able to intern her kids out to the Epstein organization for a tidy monthly “consideration”. Poor baby-but she will be back in action shortly.

M G
M G
  Blockhead
October 3, 2019 7:16 am

Wasn’t she an exec in Clinton Foundation efforts.?

Nobody
Nobody
  Dan
October 1, 2019 11:08 pm

The biggest problem here is that they keep driving the narrative and ‘we’ respond. As long as we are not driving the narrative WE LOSE.

There are fundamental crimes everyone in ‘government is committing that should be addressed with specific points of objectives for total revolution – the complete abolishment of the US and State criminal rackets posing as ‘government’ and the severance of all case law that does not recognize the absolute equal sovereignty of all individual people with the absolute prohibition of government making law applicable to any of the people (those who do not work in a government capacity) – this IS what American exceptionalism actually was – “kings without subjects”.

When are WE going to drive the narrative? It is fact that we will NOT drive the narrative as long as we RESPOND within the framework of THEIR narrative.

An asymmetric army needs to be formed to arrest ALL OF THEM for the fundamental violations of tender laws, of individual people’s sovereignty OVER government and their all out WAR on our liberties! That is the narrative that needs to be driven REGARDLESS of what the criminals are saying. We need to go to the root and let them know they are ALL violating the laws of the United States regardless of their fraudulent case law interpretations, CREATED BY KNOWN LAW VIOLATORS, violations that are death penalty crimes.

TOTAL REVOLUTION TO UPHOLD THE LAW!

M G
M G
  Nobody
October 3, 2019 7:20 am

How does one form an asymmetric army that can remove our corrupt leaders?

We can’t forget Ruby Ridge…

Nobody
Nobody
  M G
October 3, 2019 7:09 pm

Learn the law (real law) and all strategies will be revealed.

The neuron’s algorithm has been deciphered, it is governed by law -a law of nature. Once a neuron’s algorithm is known then it is easy to see how a neural net is formed and why. Once the laws governing formation of the neural nets is known then it can be understood how and why polypeptides are formed. Once polypeptide formation laws is known then it can be understood what the polypeptides do to the cells that receive them. Once that is known then it can be understood what causes a motor function in the human body. Once the laws governing human motor function is understood then it can be understood how to stimulate the neuron(s) input to cause human motor function. Once this is understood then one can provide the stimuli to generate KNOWN human movement. When this is exercised properly the armies form naturally because they already know what the threat is going to do because they were liars and murderers the whole time.

Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.

Law is the truth. God is the law. Divine inspiration is the uncollapsed wavefunction stimulating one of the inputs to the neuron but it’s weight is up to each. If it is made the highest weight then one will be inspired to learn and master the law. Mastering the law enables divine providence – it is the ONLY WAY.

But what do I know? I am Nobody. What happens if everybody becomes Nobody?

Ed
Ed
  Nobody
October 4, 2019 9:07 am

“At the end of a century that has seen the evils of communism, Nazism and other modern tyrannies, the impulse to centralize power remains amazingly persistent.” ~ Joseph Sobran
“The measure of the state’s success is that the word anarchy frightens people, while the word state does not.” – Joseph Sobran

kevx
kevx
  Nobody
October 4, 2019 3:21 pm

bravo, standing, here here, bravo! and here is the how: http://www.annavonreitz.com/

vladdy
vladdy
  Dan
October 4, 2019 11:28 pm

All good (great!), except everyone keeps saying “projection” when that is a subconscious mechanism and what the dims do is purposeful, so low-info folks will say “oh, they both say that about each other!” when PDT exposes truth about the dims’ shenanigans.

ursel doran
ursel doran
  Dan
October 5, 2019 3:29 pm

SEE Glenn Beck video please, all is explained.

Brewer55
Brewer55
October 1, 2019 7:53 am

Doug, you may just be an average guy but, you sure do a lot of excellent investigative reporting. It’s too bad the majority of first level thinkers in this country will not read it because, if they did, they would no longer be reading the bulleted points narrative of the left and would actually be getting facts. What is also incredible and was left out of your article was the video where “creepy Uncle Joe” is bragging about holding up $1 billion in aid to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor investigating his son.
‘Amerika’ – the new banana republic.

Jaz
Jaz
  Brewer55
October 1, 2019 10:28 am

We are at a crossroad in this country – and the world. How many people are going to keep gulping down the crap being spewed by the establishment? Or , how many are going to be interested enough to find the truth even if it requires them to be intellectually honest? The next 13 months should give a better idea.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Jaz
October 1, 2019 2:58 pm

Willful ignorance reigns supreme in the land of the fee, home of the slave… as it always has. Learning uncomfortable truths requires too much effort and results in too much stress.

It will be too late soon enough. Very tough lessons to follow.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  grace country pastor
October 1, 2019 5:03 pm

GCP…

Hahaha…’land of the fee, home of the slave..’

Reading the comment from Jaz, made me consider how the “crap being spewed by the establishment” is about to go gourmet. If it hasn’t already, as I have seen a few clips of Pompeo recently of CNN that look/sound a bit off.

And with each passing day, the importance of “Faith, not Sight” grows.

So, I jumped back over to your site and grabbed the video from your article by that title..

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<——-== nothing but deceit spews from DC

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Jaz
October 1, 2019 5:23 pm

Nothing over time will change for the better. It will only get worse with more advanced technology.

The surveillance and control state will get much worse. The weapons more advanced. The divide between halves and halve nots greater.

Once the rapture takes place the left behinds will essentially spiritually free fall into the NWO tyranny of the Antichrist and judgement of God until the return of Jesus 7 years later.

We will be lucky if we have another 5 or 6 years before it really begins.

Come quickly Lord Jesus for your beloved true church. At the last trump. The trump of God.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Eyes Wide Shut
October 3, 2019 10:58 am

We can live blindly and in denial our whole lives of our own personal condition, our personal sin, our inability to save ourselves, or we can truly turn both inward and upward and cry out to Jesus in repentance and forgiveness of personal sin and faith unto personal, individual salvation.

This world as we currently know it is careening out of control and gaining momentum on a daily basis and nothing we can do short of God’s personal intervention and the second coming of Jesus will stop it.

Evil on a monumental scale never before seen on earth is very soon coming whether we choose to believe it or not and so is Jesus.

For it is written.

When it happens will we individually, personally, be with Him or against Him?

Uncola
Uncola
  Brewer55
October 1, 2019 10:43 am

Brewer55 wrote:

What is also incredible and was left out of your article was the video where “creepy Uncle Joe” is bragging about holding up $1 billion in aid to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor investigating his son.

In my haste to post last night, that was an oversight. So, for purposes of posterity, I added a new segment into the post on my own blog after my “Dogs of War” quote and before the “memory-hole” paragraph (see screenshot below).

Thank you Brewer.

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Brewer55
Brewer55
  Uncola
October 1, 2019 10:56 am

One also wonders if these new Operation Ukraine allegations against Trump could be just another scene from the ongoing, never-ending, reality TV series that has, once again, been taken off “pause”.

I meant to add earlier that isn’t it incredible that this far into his presidency, with all that has gone down in the last 3 years, we are still having to peel back the onion on Trump and wonder what he is all about? Whether it be in personal relationships or matters such as this, I always attempt to look at things from 20,000 feet and to be as objective as I can, weighing out known facts (to the degree we can determine what are real facts) and what my own eyes can see and my ears to hear. I still lean towards him being a plant by the elite puppet master bankster cartel. Because of his narcissistic personality they allow him the latitude to act out his petulant child rants on twitter as a de facto real thing. What better way to keep Trumpsters happy and his opponents fuming. After all, isn’t division and chaos the ultimate goal? Trump gives new meaning to ‘A man for this time’.
Damn, I wish sometimes my head was back in the sand…

Uncola
Uncola
  Brewer55
October 1, 2019 2:22 pm

Brewer says:

….isn’t it incredible that this far into his presidency, with all that has gone down in the last 3 years, we are still having to peel back the onion on Trump and wonder what he is all about?

I think about that every day. On the one hand, he did not have to submit himself, his family, and his reputation to the daily onslaught. Or, then again, perhaps they have something on him.

Or maybe it’s just that I’ve been fooled before. But even before Trump was elected, I wasn’t sure. In the weeks before the 2016 election, I wrote takedowns on BarryO and The Harpy before Stucky sincerely challenged me to do the same on Trump. “Be honest”, Stucky said, and this was the best I could do at the time:

“The Oompa Loompa Man”:

Only time will tell if the zeitgeist of Willy Wonka smiles upon the political Charlies, the Alt-Right Ooompa Loompa’s and others who are giving the orange man their faith, their trust and their golden tickets. Perhaps it is possible. If so, they at least will have one more chance to hear the ghost of Gene Wilder say:

“So shines a good deed in a weary world.”

Three years later and I’m still not sure. The only thing I truly know is that Big Brother marches on unencumbered. If I did know for sure on Trump, though, I can only imagine what else I would write. Because I’m really not a cynical person by nature.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  Uncola
October 1, 2019 3:21 pm

Ahh to embrace the unknown, even as a Trumpeteer I don’t know and suspect he has been handed the take down, but dont care. Look at the carnage, it is fuckin wall to wall. 2020, 6 RINOS are not coming back, already announced, there will be more, 46 in 2018!!!
Why?
And why no massive amount of non-returning Dems?
What happened to Schmidt?
It has been 3 years of glorious blood letting, I have never witnessed such disruption, people say JFK, but…well, god bless him.
Has Trump delivered all my political wishes? Fuck no, but many, and he has put the torch to ALL of my most disrespected representatives, including Ryan and most of the rest of his coterie.
And like a true master showman, he has saved the best for last.
Enjoy the show!
Thanks as always for the good work.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Ottomatik
October 1, 2019 4:14 pm

Ottomatik, you do make a good point. The disruption is nothing like anything we’ve seen before. I have a feeling we might all be surprised with the coming fallout when this all plays out.

Rico
Rico
October 1, 2019 7:53 am

Unbelievable!!!!…Order the invasion of 2 sovereign nations under false pretexts
such as Bush the Lesser commited and nobody says peep about it , let alone proceed with impeachment. Cause the death of a man and you may be called a murderer , cause the death of a couple hundred thousand and they may call you Mr. President. But wait , our Dear Leader makes a phone call and people get their panties in a bunch.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 1, 2019 8:26 am

I’ll give you this much, you write like an old school investigative reporter, following the trail of breadcrumbs. And you are correct that anyone with even a modicum of intelligence and access to the Internet should already be aware of everything you mentioned and then some, but clearly this is not the case.

The problem we have today is so deeply enmeshed within the very fabric of the American that it is no longer possible for anything close to a critical mass of the public to obtain, much less process the information you’ve presented. And that, unfortunately, is the crux of our situation.

The rot is too deep, too pervasive to ever be repaired.

America is a tear down.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Anonymous
October 1, 2019 12:51 pm

“[I]t is no longer possible for anything close to a critical mass of the public to obtain, much less process the information you’ve presented”

Very well said and I fear it’s true. Nevertheless, when all this comes to a head as it must, I still have hope that the decent and noble “Silent Majority” that has –at least until now –been the true heart of the USA population will awaken to the truth of their situation and leave the sofa behind.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Montefrío
October 1, 2019 1:01 pm

This is why “narrative” is so important….here’s some nice predictive programming from HBO…I wonder who the good guys are? Remnant Federal Government vs. the Secessionist Free States…..

Ava DuVernay Teams With HBO Max For ‘DMZ’ Pilot; DC Comic Depicts New American Civil War

Uncola
Uncola
  Martel's Hammer
October 1, 2019 2:34 pm

@ Martel,

Another example here of the proverbial gloves coming off once again over at Netflix:

New Netflix movie fantasizes about time-traveling liberals carrying out the “pre-crime” murder of patriots to prevent an American uprising against globalism

In the Shadow of the Moon, starring Boyd Holbrook and Cleopatra Coleman (see comments below about their acting skills, which are superb) depicts patriots as so evil that “their crimes defy time.” With all the usual smears you would expect from a left-wing Ministry of Truth propaganda operation — after all, even the NY Times now just fabricates total fantasy to try to destroy Trump — this new film conflates patriotism with white supremacy and anti-globalism paranoia. All the typical symbols of patriots are demonized in the film, including the American flag, AR-15s and resistance against global tyranny.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Martel's Hammer
October 1, 2019 3:50 pm

And to select Ava DuVernay- the acclaimed female African-American director who managed to take one of the most popular children’s books of all time, with Oprah Winfrey in the lead role and lose the studio close to 200 million dollars- seems like such a good move.

I wish them the best in all their future endeavors*

*Employer-speak for clean out your desk and GTFO.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Montefrío
October 1, 2019 9:42 pm

America will survive the United States.

credit
credit
October 1, 2019 8:33 am

let’s not forget the voluminous evidence of Creepy Uncle Joe fondling, caressing and scaring the shit out of little girls, using his sense of untouchability, to do it right in front of their shocked but pussified by power parents.

Donkey
Donkey
October 1, 2019 8:41 am

All of this is simply about beliefs. Politics is a religion.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Donkey
October 1, 2019 9:41 am

The DemonRats are an Evil Cabal and Cult; the FSA are Communist; the RINOs are Fellow Travelers; NeoCons are Warmongering Traitors; the MSM , colleges and government Experts are their paid Mouthpiece Propagandists; TPTB are treacherous NWO bloodsucking super rich Oligarchs (Elitist); Useful Idiots are their Lickspittle; Conservatives are their prey.

M G
M G
  Donkey
October 1, 2019 10:54 am

Commented on this.. I visited with 79 yr old walking partner regarding world events. I wondered if we all yelled “STOP IT!” in unison like Whoville’s little who(s), would the lunacy stop? Geneva said, sadly and sagely, “Everyone wouldn’t do it. Just like everyone won’t just now their heads and admit we need Divine Wisdom to prevail over current craziness.”

With that, we fell silent until a new topic presented itself.

Some prayers say themselves.

flash
flash
October 1, 2019 8:51 am

Operation Ukraine is just small branch of Operation Kitchen Sink. The unprecedented degree with which Deep State is going after Trump makes one almost believe that he may be more than controlled opposition. Meanwhile Iran must be stopped before they attack America again. Where is John McCain when America needs him? Trump must act now or Israel will pull financial support support from Congressional Christmas stockings.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/shocking-map-shows-four-times-many-jihadist-militants-around-world-911

Despite nearly two decades of U.S.-led counterterrorism operations, there are nearly four times as many Sunni Islamic militants today as there were on September 11, 2001,” the prior CSIS study found.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  flash
October 1, 2019 9:18 am

Sorry about my reaction on the vegan thread, it was a mistake. I thought a great deal about it over the last week or so. I clearly suffer from the same kind of cognitive bias that everyone else does because of what we do and there’s no way to determine which approach is the correct one. You and I clearly have much more in common than not and you are obviously well-informed about nutrition so I should have taken the time to look into your points rather than lashing out.

Mea culpa.

EC
EC
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 1, 2019 9:53 am

One of the unwritten rules here is never apologize. Questioning somebody’s statement of fact should provoke more proof and not more rancor, or at least a reasonable balance. The one time I got an apology from SSS was because Stucky demanded it. SSS said – sorry, don’t let it happen again.

Stuck has whipped flash mercilessly for his misogynistic views. He used to cut and paste long articles in the comments and never apologized for that sin of inclusion.

I recently got a somewhat positive comment from nkit. He said I wasn’t as venomous as he once believed. That’s just my winning personality shining through, I don’t care what Big Red says.

flash
flash
  EC
October 1, 2019 10:22 am

ha ha ha… There is only one thing Stuck is noted for whipping and it ain’t me. I won every argument with the homo wedding attending Stuck. Every one. Stuck fears me more than he does the Jenny Craig diet and that make his man diaper full.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  flash
October 2, 2019 12:03 am

flash,this jenny craig line is a classic,is it original?

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  EC
October 1, 2019 12:17 pm

It bothered me to get into it with an ally. Especially when I was operating under a clear cognitive bias. It’s better to be loyal than to be right, especially in these times.

flash
flash
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 1, 2019 1:33 pm

Tribe up or die. It is the reality which we live in.

Unfriendly
Unfriendly
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 1, 2019 3:09 pm

RE: Allies

That’s also a primary reason why I quit railing on people here as well – even in disguise.

Sure, it’s fun to have a scrimmage now and then, but not as fun as disembowelment, ya know?

Save it for the progs, I say, and the obnoxiously misguided.

Or not.

RecoveringPublicEducated
RecoveringPublicEducated
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 2, 2019 10:15 am

We should endeavor to do both.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  EC
October 2, 2019 12:02 am

it’s midnite & i’m just seeing this–
big red thinks ec has multiple personalities,which one gonna show up this time–
cola,this is a good column–

M G
M G
  EC
October 3, 2019 11:31 am

You are also a quite honorable road guard, even if a little ornery. You are a real keeper, I don’t care what Paula says about you.

flash
flash
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 1, 2019 10:01 am

OK , but FWIW, I never thought of you as anything but admirable and have learned a lot from the essays on life you’ve submitted to TBP. I hold no grudges, not even against that treasonous, bastard Loopy, whom I thumb up way more than down.
I don’t protest the eating of meat along any ideologue or animal welfare lines . It works for me and even saved my life. Hell, my wife consumes meat everyday and I even grill it for her. She’ll never be a vegetarian and I don’t hate her for it. She sees the improvement in my health and still her choice is her own. I respect that . Same with you or anyone else.

I’m at fault for trying to explain the benefits of a plant based diet using the tactics of a TBP shit flinging monkey. My bad . Old habits are hard to break. Apology accepted and please accept mine as well.

RecoveringPublicEducated
RecoveringPublicEducated
  flash
October 2, 2019 10:17 am

Very nice to see.

BL
BL
  flash
October 1, 2019 10:48 am

Flash-You lost me at Deep State is going after Trump. Iran attack America again? Are you referring to 9/11?
You are the poster boy for if it’s on the MSM, it must be true.

flash
flash
  BL
October 1, 2019 11:26 am

Iran is the enemy. BL. Why do you think Deep State spent 3 trillion dollars on the war on turror? To keep ‘Murica free. Duh. We have to win the war on turror.
Try to pay attention .

Sunni Militants’ Ranks Now Four Times the 9/11 Number and Rising: Study
https://www.thedailybeast.com/sunni-militants-ranks-now-four-times-the-911-number-and-rising-study

BL
BL
  flash
October 1, 2019 11:34 am

Flash-What part exactly did Iran play in 9/11, not the made up tv news BS version? You should go after Israel over Iran if you want to point the finger at who REALLY attacks American. Back away from the tv Flash you have been mind controlled. Know how I know this, because I DO PAY ATTENTION.

flash
flash
  BL
October 1, 2019 12:34 pm

Iran and Israel are working together to destroy Trump’s New World Order. Do try to keep up , BL

BL
BL
  flash
October 1, 2019 11:20 pm

Flash- THAT is the MOST IGNORANT thing that has ever come out of your pie hole. Go back to sleep FFS.

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
  flash
October 1, 2019 12:01 pm

Whose bullshit study was that, and how many of those 4x terrorists quit when their paychecks start bouncing?

miforest
miforest
October 1, 2019 10:07 am

The GOP is in on the act. After 40 years of supporting , donating to , and working as a volunteer for GOP candidates , I am done with them . it’s clear they are the democratic parties controlled opposition. look at this crap, frpm ” red state ” GOP senators – https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/30/gop-democrat-senators-beg-trump-import-as-many-refugees-as-possible/ . trump is alon in that town , completely alone , and surrounded by enemies.

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
  miforest
October 1, 2019 12:44 pm

YES CONTROLLED OPPOSITION

Apparently Koch money smells what’s coming and after years of funding the “designed-to-spectacularly-fail-and-demoralize-the-right” Tea Party, Koch is moving on to graze in the Democrat-Communist pastures.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447420-koch-network-launching-4-new-pacs-in-preparation-for-2020-primary

Not Sure
Not Sure
October 1, 2019 10:20 am

Today the question is not, what is truth, but what is law?

To get this question is to understand why there is no rational discourse available to Americans today and why we will be at each other’s throats in a few years. For the law was tampered with during the Obama years when his “right hand man” Eric Holder of the DOJ ensured there would be no upholding of the law, and therefore no scandal, during the reign of Obama.

So today, the defenders of Biden boast there has been no investigation or no corruption noted during Bidens visit to the Ukraine and subsequent offering of a sweet job offer to his son shortly thereafter. But common sense tells you that such a job offer to his son with no experience in the field, after Biden publicly bragged that he withheld loans to the Ukraine government until they fired the prosecutor investigating the company who hired his son. is certainly damning.

So, the supporters of Biden point to the law and say nothing to see here, while the justice seekers who can recognize a travesty when they see one, can only hope there is some way to shake out the corrupters of the law, to build something that America can begin to trust again.

Why things will get dicey is because if the corrupters of the law are purged, most of Washington will go down with them, as they were the prime beneficiaries of the corruption; and they cannot let this happen.

I am typically an optimist when it comes to our future, but if what I have put forth is true, the corrupters would rather see the country reduced to ashes rather than going through a reset that could restore the balance of power.

We stand in the same shoes as our founding fathers, who also had to argue against the law in their time, because the law was established by the tyrannical power that they were trying to overthrow. I’m pessimistic today because I think there was a deeper hunger for justice and resolve in the generation of over a few hundred years ago than there is (including myself) in the generation of today.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Not Sure
October 1, 2019 4:02 pm

You bring up a crucial point in our societal devolution. There is justice and then there is the law. They are not one in the same. Justice takes all things into account, the law, nothing but it’s own authority.

EC
EC
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 1, 2019 5:12 pm

We always hear these screamers complaining about illegals violating ‘the law of the land’. It sounds like a major crime but it is a midemeanor that can be compounded by repeated illegal entries. The law of the land is not the same in all jurisdictions. In some places even gay marriage is violating the law of the land, where are the screamers then?

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 1, 2019 5:19 pm

I hate Islam but during my stay in Turkey I saw a better Court System. Three men were the Judges to oversee a trial and their aim is Justice not adherence to legalities and procedures. The Prosecutor, Defense and Judges are all working together to determine Truth and Justice. If something comes up that requires more outside investigation, they adjourn that trial to a set later date, review the old info and start going again. I am disgusted with the Crooked System we endure here.

vladdy
vladdy
  robert h siddell jr
October 4, 2019 11:55 pm

Were they using sharia to define “truth and justice”?

BL
BL
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 1, 2019 11:36 pm

And corporate law undermines in favor of the pirate class. Common law/God’s law trumps corporate but you have to challenge them on those grounds. Key word….challenge.

Corporate law provides ownership of us personally by the Corporation of the United States of America. And Otto wonders who the pirates could be.

Uncola
Uncola
  Not Sure
October 1, 2019 4:38 pm

Not Sure says:

…the corrupters would rather see the country reduced to ashes rather than going through a reset that could restore the balance of power.

I posted the following eight days after Trump won the 2016 election:

…If Trump ushers in a return to constitutionalism, liberty and renewed nationalist vigor across the world; then let us tip our hats, drink wine and dance in the streets.

Conversely, if violent revolution consumes the nations, including America; the ensuing societal breakdown will lead to starvation, mob mentality, war, death, destruction and blood flowing in the streets of cities like wine from a broken cask. Out of the complete chaos a new world order might then arise as a phoenix from the ashes of the old system still burning.

Will liberty be resurrected? Or tyranny?

There is no middle ground.

Sad, but also true I fear.

M G
M G
October 1, 2019 10:40 am

Donkass, above, says “Politics is a religion.”

I think there is valuable territory for Theologians to explore in logical fashion.

If politics is religion, then religion is politics.

But most of us already suspected.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  M G
October 1, 2019 10:46 pm

Politics is what we say, religion is what we believe, economics is what we do. Together they are what we live-by [ by-live = believe ] if we have integrity.

All law [ rules ] must conform to higher law, or they are null and void from their inception.

https://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/natural-law-and-sir-william-blackstone-faq.htm

BL
BL
  M G
October 1, 2019 11:40 pm

MG- Religion is a BUSINESS and run by the pirate class. Jesus is Lord but he is terrible with money so SEND your check for $1000 because Jesus needs lots of money. It is a shakedown and a business.

vladdy
vladdy
  BL
October 4, 2019 11:57 pm

The thing is, to talk to Jesus and/or God yourself rather than going through self-appointed intermediaries, which are pretty much like self- appointed “fact-check” sites. Finding out is always better than being told.

Unphilosophical
Unphilosophical
  M G
October 2, 2019 1:15 am

Or this:

Politics manifests as mankind’s relations with mankind. Religion is defined by mankind’s relations with God.

What, then, do the collectivists worship?

BL
BL
  Unphilosophical
October 2, 2019 8:24 am

Unc- They worship God the creator but as peons they give the forced illusion of worshiping the state. If you are still calling the ruling class/pirates collectivists , they worship money and power. Many are satanists but that does not change the fact that organized religion is a business.

Uncola
Uncola
  BL
October 2, 2019 12:21 pm

Bea,

Actually, I was thinking that collectivist worship themselves (and each other). How else would they believe they could create utopia on earth, ya know?

Just my two cents.

Unphilosophical
Unphilosophical
  Uncola
October 2, 2019 2:08 pm

Yes! Exactly. ?

BL
BL
  Uncola
October 3, 2019 12:54 am

“The Collective” does not endeavour to create a utopia on Earth, the downtrodden never believed such a thing. You have it wrong side out and upside down from the truth. We have been over this before, you are still slapping those who endured hell on Earth in the face.

The utopia of everyone has a equal share of nothing is pushed by the communist joos. Is that the collective of which you speak?

Uncola
Uncola
  BL
October 3, 2019 10:13 am

Those placing their faith in leftist ideologies in the midst of attempting to build secular utopia on Earth, are the collective of which I speak.

BL
BL
  Uncola
October 3, 2019 10:37 am

Guess what Unc, the pirates will still live in extreme wealth while the peon’s life sucks worse than ever if you can call that a utopia. Same/same different day but it is the same con the mouth breathers fall for over and over. Nothing new here.

BL
BL
  BL
October 3, 2019 10:42 am

Unc- Do YOU believe that this utopia on Earth is possible?

Uncola
Uncola
  BL
October 3, 2019 2:55 pm

Maybe the attempt at the individual level – like as in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But not for the collective is it possible, especially for those who still believe in Bernie Claus.

Uncola
Uncola
  BL
October 3, 2019 2:53 pm

Yeah, and that’s the thing pirates say: “Utopia for we, but not for thee”.

BL
BL
  Uncola
October 4, 2019 12:00 am

Well, we can’t all live in the Owl’s Nest.

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
October 1, 2019 10:51 am

Doug,

A good article and I’ll post it tonight.

You ask a lot of probing questions. In Russiagate, one indisputable fact proved dispositive, and it came out just a few months after the DNC’s server was allegedly “hacked.” According to an analysis by the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), the servers couldn’t have been hacked—the information within the server obtained remotely over the Internet. VIPS looked at the metadata associated with the so-called hack and determined that the download was far faster than was possible over the Internet, it could have only been by someone with physical access to the server, using a thumbdrive or similar device. Speculation has been that the person was Seth Rich, whose murder and “robbery” (his wallet, jewelry, and watch were not taken) remains unsolved. Wikileaks offered $20,000 for any information leading to apprehension of the murderer or murderers.

With this one fact, the entire Russiagate narrative unraveled and stayed unraveled, not withstanding over two more years of complete smoke and mirrors. If you knew this one fact you were quite comfortable essentially ignoring the headlines the next couple of years because you knew they were, “a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

I bring all this up to draw attention to the most important word in the transcript of the call between Trump and Ukraine’s Prsident Volodymyr Zelensky: “CrowdStrike.” That was the rabidly anti-Russian firm that the DNC and Clinton campaign used to examine the supposedly hacked server. The FBI never examined that server, but both the FBI and Robert Mueller accepted CrowdStrike’s hacking conclusion, although it was thoroughly debunked by VIPS. Trump first mentioned CrowdStrike and asked for an investigative effort, not the Bidens. My guess is that Trump understands the significance of CrowdStrike and the hack versus download issue, and of course, so do the Democrats and the Deep State. Trump implied in the Zelensky call that the server was in Ukraine. If he could get ahold of that server (doubtful), he could cut through the sound and fury and conclusively prove that the server wasn’t hacked—Russiagate was a fraud. Ukrainegate, being even flimsier (less than a week after the story first surfaced most of it was debunked, thanks to the alternative media) would be discredited in short order.

You do a great job highlighting the inconsistencies, gaping holes, and lies in the sound and the fury surrounding Ukrainegate, but it is all sound and fury and I think it’s exactly what I said Russiagate was in early 2017: a sign of Deep State incompetence and weakness. Only Ukrainegate is even flimsier than Russiagate and it too will crash and burn, but quicker. Indeed, it already has. However, it serves the same purpose as Russiagate: keep Trump on the defensive so that his team can never investigate Deep State depredations. From that standpoint, Russiagate was a spectacular success. I’m sure the feeling is that Ukrainegate can be drawn out at least into next year’s election, which by hook or by crook they’re determined to win and put an end to all this.

M G
M G
  Robert Gore
October 1, 2019 12:11 pm

I am glad you are reposting and hope others do so as well. It is a fine piece of work, and concise.

[RG, I am reminded by your comment I need to order something from Amazon and review your book. It will be good, but I will make mention of the opportunity missed to discuss the tragic results in business when the focus on the bottom line is lost: the daughter gets slaughtered… Godfather III isn’t completely without moral guidelines and subtle messages about business codes.]

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
  M G
October 1, 2019 7:35 pm

MG

I’m sure you’re right about GF III, I only watched it once. I just didn’t like it so I didn’t say much about it in my book. And thanks in advance for the review.

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
  Robert Gore
October 1, 2019 1:42 pm

Robert, your good commentary is always appreciated.

“However, it serves the same purpose as Russiagate: keep Trump on the defensive so that his team can never investigate Deep State depredations.”

We may have to agree to disagree as to whether Trump was ever serious about draining the swamp- but be wary, as I feel the sentence above lends itself to the following bullshit position:

That is: “Trump was constantly harassed and hamstrung. That’s why he couldn’t drain the swamp. It wasn’t his fault.”

Let’s stop that chorus before it begins!

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
  22winmag w/o tagline
October 1, 2019 7:17 pm

22winmag w/o tagline

Yes, as Doug as pointed has pointed out so well, both Trump’s true feelings along these lines and his actions are ambiguous, at best.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Robert Gore
October 1, 2019 2:11 pm

Robert G….

“According to an analysis by the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), the servers couldn’t have been hacked—the information within the server obtained remotely over the Internet. VIPS looked at the metadata associated with the so-called hack and determined that the download was far faster than was possible over the Internet,…..”

It’s been a yr. since I followed much of what you say….William Binney?

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<———== CHAOS is the goal

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  ordo ab chao
October 4, 2019 9:33 am

Bill Binney is not just any NSA official, he was effectively the CTO of the NSA….pretty authoritative…….

Uncola
Uncola
  Robert Gore
October 1, 2019 4:54 pm

Thank you, Robert. We are definitely in agreement that the mention of “Crowdstrike” would be enough for any proximate CIA agent to send up the flagpole because of its potential to completely shatter the Russian hacking narrative, the Mueller report, and years of the entire Orwellian Media’s reporting in one fell swoop.

In fact, this could be exactly why Trump’s opponents appear panicked at present.

Unless all of it is misdirection (as I’ve speculated here before). As you know I, too, have written several articles referencing VIPS and Seth Rich. Even so, Assange remains in prison, Trump has not unclassified any of Spygate’s paper trail, Comey recently got a pass from Barr, John Brennan just publically requested all of the deep state’s operatives to unload whatever they may have on Trump, Hillary might be considering another run, the Obama’s just bought a mansion in Martha’s Vineyard, and several of President Trump’s men remain behind bars.

As I’ve also written here before: One can only hope the wheels of justice that are grinding so slowly now will, soon, also grind exceedingly fine.

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Robert Gore
Robert Gore
  Uncola
October 1, 2019 7:18 pm

Doug

See my comment above in response to 22winmag w/o tagline. A categorical statement about Trump, his actions, and his motivations is impossible for outsiders at this time.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 1, 2019 10:55 am

Why explain everything as a conspiracy? Entropy explains this disorder and requires less intelligence and energy.

Onnie
Onnie
  Anonymous
October 1, 2019 1:59 pm

It’s a conspiracy because if you are correct – if entropy explains this disorder – then the people who are in gov’t are all working together to pretend that there isn’t entropy, it’s them who are in charge of things and that’s why we need a strong government to “fix” our problems. See the conspiracy from that angle?

Ken31
Ken31
October 1, 2019 11:00 am

I am somewhere in a different diagram than Uncola and his “friends”. I think Trump is a self seeking traitor who is getting hammered for legitimately trying to investigate obvious Biden/Obama corruption, and this is all just a clown show to confuse the masses so no one goes to jail.

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
  Ken31
October 1, 2019 12:41 pm

Washington is Hollywood for ugly actors.

Hollywood is Washington for attractive actors.

EC
EC
  22winmag w/o tagline
October 1, 2019 3:16 pm

Richard Gere said he wouldn’t go to Washington because his presence would be disruptive. Still, many others can’t resist the temptation. Anywho, I just finished reading Billy Dick or The White Whale and I’m perplexed as to what the whale symbolizes. Epstein (Call me Epstein) signs up for a fishing trip to see the world and ends up escaping Davy Jones locker by hiding in a casket, I should have given you a spoiler alert.

Anyway, Captain Trump is embarked on a different mission from the agreement he had from Bildad and Pence. Keep a sharp lookout for Hillary, he says. First one to spot the Ukraine servers get this gold coin. He nails the coin to the mast of the doomed ship. I guess he didn’t remember that gold tends to sink ships, fiat is so much lighter. Captain Trump goes on to harpoon the old poon but gets tangled up in the ropes and gets dragged under by the whale. It’s quite an adventure. Can’t say old Starbuck didn’t warn him that it’s blasphemy to say he can do anything he wants as captain despite the ship’s constitution and seek revenge that won’t do anybody any good. Spoiler alert: the ship sinks in the end.

Uncola
Uncola
  Ken31
October 1, 2019 4:58 pm

You may be right, Ken. Seriously.

Plato_Plubius
Plato_Plubius
October 1, 2019 12:28 pm

Unless a wild card comes outta nowhere and runs 3rd party, it seems the novela being peddled for PUBLIC consumption leads to a Trump 2020 win.

Unless The Rock and Oprah come out of left field and run on a 3rd party hahaha

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
  Plato_Plubius
October 1, 2019 12:39 pm

You might be interested to know the Koch money behind the “designed-and-created-to-fail” Tea Party is now going to be put toward the Demoncrats in 2020.

Don’t be fooled by the headlines. Koch and his ilk are throwing in the towel and going full socialist.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447420-koch-network-launching-4-new-pacs-in-preparation-for-2020-primary

M G
M G
  Plato_Plubius
October 1, 2019 12:39 pm

At this time in 2007, had you heard of Obama?

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
October 1, 2019 12:33 pm

Let’s not lose sight of the conspiracy forest through all of these tree-details.

I was busy potty training during Watergate, but growing up, everyone seemed to have something to say about it and everyone seemed to have different or conflicting opinions of the event.

Until finding this 13 page Watergate paper a few years back, I was unable to see the Watergate forest and place the trees into context.

What did I learn about this 1970s drama known as Watergate?

That it was a stage play from the start, just like every other major political drama, up to and including the entire Trump presidency and this current Impeachment-Ukrainegate nonsense.

http://mileswmathis.com/watergate.pdf

Many intelligent adults still have no fucking clue about Watergate 40+ year later, and yet people are trying to analyze and sleuth Ukrainegate while it’s still being acted out.

That would be funny it it weren’t so sad.

Montefrío
Montefrío
October 1, 2019 12:37 pm

One of your best, imho!

“`[A] narrative war.” Yessir, that’s the adjective! That describes exactly the present state of affairs. Today it’s still a “narrative,”but for how much longer? I, like you, believe the breach has widened beyond simple “bridge-building”. Too many bridges have already been burned. This essay clearly demonstrates that.

This new and ridiculous attempt at what amounts to a seditious coup d’etat is something that mere narrative will not likely suffice to dispel.; by default, this will have to get ugly. Despite a fair piece of time trying to imagine better options, I keep coming back to the same conclusion.

I salute you for your efforts to explain to the emotionally disturbed objective reality, but as as an aloof Zen master, I’ve transcended such worthy efforts as yours because as an old guy, I’ve given up on them. Trust me, sir, the day you do that you’ll find the food more tasty and the coffee ambrosial.

Uncola
Uncola
  Montefrío
October 1, 2019 5:02 pm

Believe it or not, Montefrio, there was one guy at our table who had no idea what any of us were talking about. He seemed… almost… blissfull.

Then, on Monday, he said he found the Trump/Ukraine phone transcript, read it, and now agrees with my take on the matter. lol ya just gotta laugh. For now, at least.

flash
flash
October 1, 2019 12:42 pm

Just in. Bolshevik busted breaking into White House.
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Max
Max
October 1, 2019 2:24 pm

My view from behind enemy lines.
The mob is easily spooked and herded. Thinking for themselves appears to be a lost cause.
For diversity to work a common core that is accepted and respected is required.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
October 1, 2019 4:26 pm

You’re at the top of ZH.

INCOMING!!!!

Uncola
Uncola
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 1, 2019 5:06 pm

Woo hoo! Go team TBP lol

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EC
EC
  Uncola
October 1, 2019 8:49 pm

Unc, are you wearing a pleated cheerleader skirt?

BL
BL
  EC
October 3, 2019 12:34 pm

He has the legs for it EC. 🙂

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Hardscrabble Farmer
October 1, 2019 5:37 pm

Lol! Here is the first comment I came across:

“ZH: you appear to have published an article by someone who can write. Please mend your net.”

ST
ST
October 1, 2019 9:29 pm

PragerU Video – Why I Don’t Want and Don’t Deserve Reparations
https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2019/10/prageru-video-why-i-dont-want-and-dont.html

Drud
Drud
October 2, 2019 1:36 am

Yeah… so’s my Johnson.

I find it almost impossible to understandable or to care about the working of the State, the Deep State, what have you. It’s all lies, all bullshit and there is no way out. We are all but bit players… the only advantage it’s to know it. The real, actionable Truth exists and we’re okay it out as best we can at the individual level. That’s it. Just watching infinity war and like thanos stays… dread it, run from it… destiny arrives all the same. We can only ever do our best on our small scales. It seems that the buy- in for system level change is and always shall be ruthlessness and corruption.

I have no ability to hope or care about systemic “solutions “. They simply don’t exist. Responsibility, service, peace of mind, ans when possible smelling the roses ans being genuinely grateful for the brief chance to do so is the best we’re can do.

And honestly, that’s pretty damn good.

BL
BL
  Drud
October 2, 2019 8:34 am

Bravo Drud!! Our only advantage IS knowing……..

What if we all just tuned out and ignored the silliness of scripted political BS and simply enjoyed our lives and sniffed the roses each day? The pirates would up their game for something really over the top like the alien invasion and the total enslavement of the world……..and what if we just yawned and sat outside in a lawn chair and enjoyed a cold beverage? Being happy is against their religion.

Festering Boil
Festering Boil
October 2, 2019 2:45 am

No way could I hang out with RINOs or leftist and even talk to them. They are too stupid and don’t deserve to even draw the air they breathe. Yep, that is where I put them and what I wish on them. Also, if you were going to discuss the Biden affair, why not just pull out your phone, pull up the Biden CFR video and show them that. That is breaking the law and an executable offense at that level. Trump did nothing wrong, period.

vladdy
vladdy
  Festering Boil
October 5, 2019 12:11 am

So obvious that it’s difficult to see how doing anything other than yawning and telling folks to watch the video is possible.

On the matter of “hacking” the dims’ (turning around, going back for a moment) — why does no one ever mention the Awans, who had full access for years (?) and carried anything they wanted back to Pakistan. When I hear anyone mention the dims being hacked, I think “of course they were — check Pakistan!”

Now…what does this “hacking” have to do with your scheme to get rid of PDT (and your plan, following that, to deny some people the full right of sufferage…as we could see certain people saying, “since we have shown they cannot be trusted with the vote, let’s make everyone’s ballot — who lives in a less-densely- populated area –be worth, say…3/5 of a full vote?”)

William Gilkerson
William Gilkerson
October 2, 2019 9:10 am

Whisperings that this bs was initiated by Brennen and Bolton got my attention. Conspiracy theoreticians like myself put nothing past the disgruntled swamp.
I was skeptical of Barr until they pulled this one. This coupe #2 desperation reeks of something good coming out of Barr’s investigation. They have no doubt gotten a whiff, why else all the calls for Barrs recusal/arrest /execution. Mueller 2.0 and installed by CIA goon/plant. I guess this would all play out nicely as in the watergate era except for the fact many people know the score now. Their blind spot is thinking they have the same power that they once had. The god emporer will not go quietly flashing the peace sign. Bank it.
Hillary seems to have a quicker step and sparkle in her eye. Return of the Hildabeast Kracken?

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
  William Gilkerson
October 2, 2019 12:20 pm

Here’s a public service.
Click to read this classic.
It ends when they get close to Brennan.
It’s may hard to view, but it’s worth reading whether you believe it or not.
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Uncola
Uncola
  22winmag w/o tagline
October 2, 2019 6:39 pm

For those or a hurry or can’t expand it enough to read, here is a summary (below). It seemingly ties the U.S. State Department to the Charlottesville shooting (and possibly John Brennan).

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Uncola
Uncola
  William Gilkerson
October 2, 2019 6:57 pm

Even the rumblings alone of Broomhilda Part Deux are a great opportunity for never-ending reality TV narratives and misdirection. And if she did enter the race, both sides of the American divide would be whipped into such a frenzy it would make the 2016 Presidential Election look like the 2020 Presidential Election by comparison!

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ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
October 2, 2019 10:44 am

I saw a post where HSF said the article was at ZH, so I went there to see what your ‘critics’ had to say. Approx. 16 comments, none provoked much thought. I guy directed his to ZH, 01/10 but ‘better than most’?….had the usual ‘its all a show’; the ‘joooos’ are behind it; but quite a few less of the Qtrds still waiting on ‘justice’……

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <——–== It's all a show, that's been planned; and the only justice will not be 'just us'……this is gonna be the turning of all turns…..

Travis Bickle
Travis Bickle
October 2, 2019 11:49 am

“But they do believe everything written in The New York Times and The Washington Post”
Stopped reading after that. Your friends are very misinformed, they have zero credibility.

Uncola
Uncola
  Travis Bickle
October 2, 2019 12:26 pm

Travis,

Agreed. But I fail to see why that was reason to stop reading? Because the best was yet to come. You missed all the good parts, man!

EC
EC
  Uncola
October 2, 2019 2:40 pm
Mary Christine
Mary Christine
October 2, 2019 12:15 pm

I don’t make predictions anymore. But I keep having this picture in my head of the Democrats pulling the petals off of a daisy and saying “Impeach? Impeach not?”

Bloomberg (I know, don’t roll your eyes, yet) had an OpEd the other day about why Trumps evangelical base would not go to war if he was impeached. (Regarding the Presidents retweet of the evangelical pastor who said there would be a civil war)
“The pastor says that impeachment and removal would “negate the votes of millions of Evangelicals.” Leaving aside the fact that removing Trump would make an evangelical Christian, Mike Pence, president, the argument again ignores the constitutional structure of impeachment. If 67 senators are prepared to vote for something, it almost certainly would mean that many millions of evangelicals approve of it. Trump’s supporters would need to have dwindled to a hard core, and even some of them would be able to see how badly outnumbered they had become.”

An interesting point, to be sure. I don’t pretend to speak for evangelicals or even understand them but I don’t think this person can speak for or understand them, either. But over at Trunews, where I first heard about this, they are thinking that the pro-impeach crowd can put the thought into the heads of the evangelicals that Pence would be better for them as President than Trump and if their Senators say so, they should roll with what their “elected officials” believe is good for them.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-09-30/what-trump-doesn-t-get-about-his-own-civil-war

Uncola
Uncola
  Mary Christine
October 2, 2019 12:52 pm

Thank you Mary. I read that article too, and it seemed like wishful thinking.

In any case, this comment is as good as any for what I want to say next – thus entered into the digital record for posterity purposes.

TO THE READERS:

As I mentioned before, very high up on this thread, I have remained guardedly skeptical of Trump for over the past three years.

During that time, my writings have been a mixture of both hope and caution regarding the president. I’ve written about Trump as ” The Most Interesting Man in the World: Two Faces on the Same Coin” as well as many articles referencing “movies in the mind” and reality TV (including within the very post at the top of this thread).

Just now, over on T4C’s “Cold Anger / Stand” post written by Sundance of The Conservative Treehouse, I commented regarding “passionate optimism” versus “rational realism” and, specifically, involving the following article written by Brandon Smith at AltMarket.com:

“Trump Cannot Be Anti-Globalist While Working With Global Elites”

Again, as I wrote in my “Cold Anger” comment, as much as I wish to remain optimistic, “I do believe Brandon has reminded many of us of what we have known all along“.

And my final words in that comment as follows:

As I have written here before acceptance does not have to be surrender. It is realism. Don’t be fooled. Work the problem. Seek solutions. And do W.I.N.N. – What Is Needed Now – even unto the bitter end.

Godspeed and be of good cheer. This too shall pass…

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Uncola
October 2, 2019 2:53 pm

I know, Doug, 90% of the time I am 90% sure that Trump is not to be trusted. Then that 10% creeps in when he tweets out stuff like he has the past few days. Like he’s been the one fooled and he’s on to them now. That 10% is just me hoping that I am wrong about that 90%. I don’t really want to be right. Because if I and others like me are right then God have mercy on us. We will need it.

EC
EC
  Mary Christine
October 2, 2019 3:03 pm

It’s campaign season, throw out your doubts and go with the flow of the campaign madness. Elections are an opportunity to release pent up anger at the government by ‘throwing the bums out’ or defending your president.

I’m not a paid therapist but I can tell you this from observing chuckle heads in the wild: 20 fake laughs a day will do you better than 100 honest fits.

M G
M G
  EC
October 2, 2019 3:32 pm

Honest question…why aren’t any of the wiser assets around here weighing in?

And, speaking of wiseasses, where is Stucky? No crises ongoing?

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
  EC
October 3, 2019 10:20 am

Campaign season?

The Koch money is going communist in 2020.

Mark my words.

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
  Mary Christine
October 2, 2019 2:17 pm

Boom!

Has anyone bothered to actually read the 25th Amendment?

Trump can abdicate to Pence without repercussions.

Netanyahu was supposed to be gone TODAY, but they gave him a few more weeks as a political stunt.

When Nutty goes, Trump is abdicates soon after.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  22winmag w/o tagline
October 2, 2019 2:56 pm

Nutty is a crook and I think a lot of the Israelis are sick of him, but the other guy, Gant I think his name is, didn’t get enough votes to win outright but he refuses to work with Nutty so they are in a Mexican standoff.

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
October 2, 2019 12:16 pm

Here’s ya a conspiracy.

Who is passing out grenades and are they blowing up the right people?

Obviously these are amateurs.

American veterans wouldn’t miss.

I’ve often spoke of fragging, which is the equivalent of roof top voting in the military.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/08/sharp-rise-in-incidents-involving-hand-grenades-amsterdam-tops-list/

TXAnon
TXAnon
October 2, 2019 1:21 pm

Why bother even sitting down with a dem or a RINO? I dont even speak about politics with my mother or sister who are both koolaid drunk leftists who pretend to be “moderate” liberals.

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
  TXAnon
October 2, 2019 2:14 pm

Oh boy.

That’s not unit cohesiveness.

ST
ST
October 3, 2019 5:20 am

The Epoch Times Video – Michelle Malkin Follows the Money Behind the Push for Open Borders

https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-epoch-times-video-michelle-malkin.html

John Galt
John Galt
October 3, 2019 8:38 am

Nobody speaks of the treaty with Ukraine regarding corruption. He has a duty as our leader to request info on why biden has that country’s attorney general removed. And how did his cocaine snorting son who has zero education or experience in foreign issues, hedge funds, or energy get a billion dollar deal? Just sorta landed in his lap huh. None of those many trips tagging along with ol’Joe had nothing to do with it. Nothing to see here folks. These people should be hung for treason and if they thing there wont be a real fight to stop the corruption and demise of our republic i feel they are heavily mistaken a sit seems many are waking up and finding alt news sources to open their minds.

John Galt
John Galt
October 3, 2019 9:12 am

Admin, as long as TBP has sidebar ads featuring girls in thongs etc. TBP will never grow to the level it could. I have referred many and they came once and emailed me saying the sidebar ads were offensive and embarrassing when in public reading vs having the opportunity while in public to share the site and article to garner more readers. Many never read the first article because they thought it was a fake or porn site. Just some critical feedback…..

EC
EC
  John Galt
October 3, 2019 9:31 am

ad blocker

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
October 3, 2019 12:01 pm

Uncola…

I thought somewhere in this thread was one from EC that read similar to “it’s the rhetoric that will cause blood to be shed”.

On that note, I noticed when I linked from a title at Quayle’s site, the ‘straightlinelogic’ site of your friend R.Gore. When I saw the videographer, I would not have listened, as my experience with that guy is that he’s not produced any info I’ve not already seen on the net elsewhere, yet always citing ‘sources’ that will remain undisclosed….

https://ncrenegade.com/editorial/militias-activating-all-across-the-country-we-are-approaching-civil-war/

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<<———==

I dropped the anon linked to alt market on the t4c thread yesterday, just to avoid the pre-conceived bias that will come with posts under the chaos moniker….B. Smith's position mirrors mine, and caution is of dire need.

I stand firm with the belief we are witnessing a return 'to the days of Noah'. The ongoing spiritual battle is of far greater consequence. Repentance, supplication and prayers are potentially the most powerful weapons we can yield….the dark side certainly advance thru invocation of lesser gods…..(I've wondered for three years if we would see a return of Hillarion….tick, tock)

EC
EC
  ordo ab chao
October 3, 2019 12:32 pm

In my reply to Winnie on the – Trump: we’re at war – article, I project a Chelsea run in ’24.

BL
BL
  EC
October 3, 2019 12:37 pm

EC- I’m still going with Kanye in’24. They will have to have two limos for Kim in parades, one for her and one for her ass which will be about the size of the oval office by then.

EC
EC
  BL
October 3, 2019 1:04 pm

FAOTUS

22winmag - The South was Right!
22winmag - The South was Right!
  ordo ab chao
October 3, 2019 9:43 pm

Screw all race baiters and war baiters.

ursel doran
ursel doran
October 3, 2019 12:45 pm

“When your enemy is doing something foolish that will insure his destruction, do not disturb him.”
 https://www.libertynation.com/is-there-a-ukrainian-armageddon-dead-ahead-for-dems/  

Jason Calley
Jason Calley
October 3, 2019 5:42 pm

From the RINO: “Did Trump request a favor from a foreign power that could be used against his U.S. political opponent, Joe Biden?”

No! Absolutely not! Trump asked a foreign power to investigate a possible crime. Assuming that Biden is innocent (as all double-plus good right thinkers must agree), Trump was, in fact, asking for a foreign power to exonerate Joe Biden.

Uncola
Uncola
  Jason Calley
October 3, 2019 6:03 pm

Jason,

Oooh. Dang! That’s one of them there things that I wish I would have said. I like it. Because why would anyone be upset if Biden was innocent, right? Good one.

Uncola
Uncola
October 3, 2019 6:06 pm

Placing this here for posterity. A lot of good (even fun) takeaways in this article (by Andrew McCarthy from “The Hill”):

Ignore the hype — this is not an impeachment inquiry

What is portrayed as an “impeachment inquiry” is actually just a made-for-cable-TV political soap opera. The House of Representatives is not conducting a formal impeachment inquiry. To the contrary, congressional Democrats are conducting the 2020 political campaign.

…The Democrats, of course, hope you don’t notice that the House is not conducting a formal impeachment inquiry. They are using the guise of frenetic activity by several standing committees — Intelligence, Judiciary, Foreign Affairs, Oversight and Reform, Financial Services, and Ways and Means — whose normal oversight functions are being gussied up to look like serious impeachment business.

But standing committees do have subpoena power, so why not use it? Well, because subpoenas get litigated in court when the people or agencies on the receiving end object. Democrats want to have an impeachment show — um, inquiry — on television; they do not want to defend its bona fides in court.

…Every presidential impeachment inquiry, from Andrew Johnson through Bill Clinton, has been the subject of bipartisan consultation and debate.

…Not this one. This one is a misadventure in exactly the bare-knuckles partisanship the Framers feared. To be sure, no one has the power to prevent willful House leadership from misbehaving this way. But we’re not required to pretend the charade is real.

22winmag - The South was Right!
22winmag - The South was Right!
  Uncola
October 3, 2019 9:42 pm

+1

ursel doran
ursel doran
October 5, 2019 3:27 pm

I shall repeat over and over, the only thing that all the politic wars are about is who controls the stealing rights!
Ukraine / Biden’s / Obama & $3.6 BILLION embezzled, laid out with Glenn Beck’s usual “fabulous” research. 50 min. video.