Are Ivy League Schools immune from 4th turnings?

I had an interesting conversation the other day. Are Ivy League Schools immune from 4th Turnings?

It seems that our “educational” systems in this country carry on regardless of what happens in the world.

Look at most Ivy League schools (like Harvard, Princeton, Cornell, etc.), they’ve been around for centuries!

Including many previous “4th Turnings.”

But if and when the next 4th turning happens (financial collapse, civil war, deep state unmasked), will they survive once again?

Especially since today, being in a technological and information era.

Because most of us know that practically all educational institutions are essentially “indoctrination centers,” are they ever at risk from being uprooted, or even completely destroyed?

Would enough people be able to say “Enough is enough! To HELL with these horrible institutions!”

What would have to happen for one or more of these “prestigious” places to fail altogether?

Or will the charade continue?

Just asking for a friend.

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Llpoh
Llpoh
November 4, 2019 8:11 am

Yes they will survive. There are a reasonably high percentage of lefty loonies at every school, including the Ivies. But I suspect there will be a serious core of students with very conservative parents behind the scenes, and should the crap hit the fan, the students, and the school, will be pulled rapidly into line.

musket
musket
November 4, 2019 8:48 am

The clowns (all including the Ivies) that we see on the television are there more because of lazy media types who get a “story” the easy way versus developing it properly. When it hits the fan and it always hits the fan eventually we will get a reversion to the mean like this nation has never seen it before.

When governments stop the non-essential feel good b/s jobs in race, culture, gender and the environment we will get the reductions in personnel et al that will start them running more like a business than a clown show on steroids……think Chicago and Los Angeles.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
November 4, 2019 9:02 am

I’ve been to all of them except Columbia and Princeton, fucked or fondled at least one young woman from all of them, and professionally recruited writers, spies, and science-tards from all of them.

If you’d like to know about the College Admission Scandal manufactured in greater Boston, just ask.

Need to know what the surrounding communities and inner working of these Ivy League places are like, just ask.

Nobody ever asks me shit around here.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  22winmag - w/o tagline
November 4, 2019 9:09 am

When are you coming to get your phone and split some firewood?

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 4, 2019 9:57 am

Too complicated, stop attacking me.

But I’m thinking early Wednesday since you’re up and out early.

Crime Story S1 Ep09 and Ep11 are worth watching. You’ll know why if you bother to.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  22winmag - w/o tagline
November 4, 2019 8:44 pm

Christ, 22, WTH is going on with you lately? Do you have a fever or something? Damn dude, first you’re talking about your former security clearance on here, then everyone is a Commie defeatist, and then the erratic shit like above.

Are you OK? We’re not going to read about you taking a swan dive off the Sears Tower, are we?

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Articles of Confederation
November 4, 2019 9:38 pm
Steve C.
Steve C.
  22winmag - w/o tagline
November 4, 2019 10:22 am

Nobody ever asks me shit around here.

22 with or without tag:

You push too hard. You come across as a know-it-all. You post the same charts and links over and over, sometimes in the same article. You act like a condescending keeper of the world’s knowledge that we your underlings MUST learn and accept. You and only you know all of the secrets of the universe.

Your comments are just opinions and many times not even your own.

You are entitled to your opinions just as everyone else is to theirs.

BUT

You chastise and denigrate anyone that has the audacity to disagree with you.

TBP is a rough and tumble place. If you want our respect, you have to earn it for yourself.

Don’t push so hard 22. Post your thoughts and opinions out here for everyone to see and interpret for themselves. Remember that the sum total of world experience of everyone here at TBP is greater than your own alone and that perhaps there is more for you to learn than then there is for you to preach.

I think that you have a great deal to offer here and could be a real contributor, but you haven’t learned to respect others and you come across in a very arrogant and condescending way.

Hollywood Rob learned the hard way that he wasn’t the keeper of the world’s knowledge and that we were here for his convenience. Personally, I would hate to see the potential that you have to share with us lost the same way.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  Steve C.
November 4, 2019 10:35 am

Keep in mind I’m a commenter, not an article writer.

I’ll be the first to tell you a man’s got to know his limitations.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  22winmag - w/o tagline
November 4, 2019 4:20 pm

So, by that, I gather you are a woman. Because you clearly have no idea of your limitations.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  Llpoh
November 4, 2019 4:49 pm

I offered him what I thought would be some good advice, but as my dad used to say ‘ good advice only helps you if you take it’.

He looks in the mirror and sees himself as a knight in shining armor. Everybody else sees him as an overbearing asshole.

I think he has potential, but he fucks it up every time.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  Llpoh
November 5, 2019 11:59 am

Correct.

HSF and Mary will tell you I’m a one bitch of a man.

cz
cz
  22winmag - w/o tagline
November 4, 2019 11:15 pm

so, what are the surrounding communities of some of these ivy league institutions like?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  cz
November 5, 2019 7:46 am

?

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
November 4, 2019 9:37 am

IMHO – the reason they are immune, the schools are funded by very wealthy alumni, who have money in downturn economic periods. I looked up the following from 2016:

https://money.cnn.com/2016/01/27/pf/college/largest-college-endowments/index.html

The top 10 largest college endowments:
1. Harvard University: $36.4 billion
2. Yale University: $25.6 billion
3. University of Texas system: $24.1 billion
4. Princeton University: $22.7 billion
5. Stanford University: $22.2 billion
6. Massachusetts Institute of Technology: $13.5 billion
7. Texas A&M University system: $10.5 billion
8. Northwestern University: $10.2 billion
9. University of Pennsylvania: $10.1 billion
10. University of Michigan: $10 billion

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  Crawfisher
November 4, 2019 10:00 am

Thanks.

They’re a bunch of vagrants.

One single .gov laboratory alone attached to MIT has a $1,000,000,000 annual operating budget.

One lousy lab.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  22winmag - w/o tagline
November 4, 2019 10:08 am

MIT is not an Ivy.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  Anonymous
November 4, 2019 10:32 am

I know.

UPenn is Ivy in name only.

MIT is not Ivy in name only.

That’s the joke most people don’t get.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Crawfisher
November 4, 2019 11:26 am

How come nobody on the Left ever suggests paying for “free college for all” by confiscating these fucking endowments? At least that would have a certain logical consistency……Kind of tells you everything you need to know about the Left……its about power over people not power for the people.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Martel's Hammer
November 4, 2019 8:48 pm

Not a bad idea…perhaps set aside some $$$ for 22’s counseling copays…

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
November 4, 2019 10:28 am

They are not centers of higher learning. They are centers of making political and economic “connections” to insure one’s future success and power. That problem always survives the cultural turmoil, even if in another form. The elite will always maintain this institutions for themselves.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
November 4, 2019 10:46 am

You’re right, Mr. Liberty.

About 10% of the Ivy undergraduates might be considered “young intellectuals”… trying to learn as much as they can, and from the best.

80% of Ivy undergraduates are there to build/expand their social network.

And about 10% don’t really know why they’re there.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  Anonymous
November 4, 2019 11:11 am

Hey look! Two spot on comments in a row without trolling or trawling.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 4, 2019 10:38 am

Cornell?

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  Anonymous
November 4, 2019 11:14 am

UPenn, Cornell, Brown are Ivy in name only.

I’m still on the fence about Dartmouth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 4, 2019 11:16 am

obviously these universities are not immune from 4th turnings, the article/question posed is short sided. In the hundred plus years that some of the Ivy institutions have been around each has undergone its own changes in ideology determined by the leaders of the time. A better question would be whether these institutions actually influence the turnings, ahead of time (rather than become apart of them), and have an affect on steering the country. Afterall, these institutions produce a majority of the leaders in finance and commerce, international relations and government and have done so since their inception.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
November 5, 2019 7:52 am

Many of these Ivy League schools began as Christian institutions for the best and brightest. Seeing what they have “evolved” into, they don’t deserve to survive.

Lars
Lars
  grace country pastor
November 5, 2019 9:40 am

Yeah, well last I checked, the presidents of all but one of the ivies were jews.

Even with today’s demographic proportions, White boys are radically under-represented. White, explicitly Christian boys even more so.

Of course, one reason the statistical data conceal this reality is that jews and often Hispanics are lumped into the same category as Whites.

In any case, White Christian boys need not apply to the country’s formerly best schools, including top-tier non-ivies like Stanford, Duke, MIT, Cal Tech, Chicago, Berkeley, Carnegie-Melon, Purdue, etc.

cz
cz
  Lars
November 5, 2019 9:45 am

i read not long ago that carnegie mellon here in pittsburgh is over 30% asian. therefore, yes, ironically, the best asian food is on the east end of town.