Pale Blue Dot ( by Carl Sagan)

gilberts recommended this speech in the flat earth debate.

I second his recommendation as five minutes well spent.

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BB
BB
  M G
January 19, 2020 10:45 am

There is no such thing as outer space . Nothing can get through the Firmament.No one has ever been to the moon. The moon is producing its own light inside the Firmament
There are over 200 verses in the Bible that describe the earth NASA is a total fraud.

Donkey
Donkey
  BB
January 19, 2020 11:23 pm

BB,

Is it possible for you to write an article about what the bible says about all this?

I spoke to my father today and he says the bible doesn’t take a position on whether the earth is flat or round.

M G
M G
  Donkey
January 21, 2020 3:17 pm

Many, including BB I think, claim the angels guarding the four directions to the Tree of Life and the reference to the firmament above and below leans toward Flat Earth theory.

On the other hand, if God created Heavens and Earth, there’s SOMETHING out there.

gilberts
gilberts
January 19, 2020 11:35 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzS39oghcnY
Cosmos’ opening was great, in my opinion.

M G
M G
  gilberts
January 19, 2020 1:00 pm

It was, but there are other ways to look at Sagan, especially now that the Elon Musk phenom has taken off.

gilberts
gilberts
  M G
January 19, 2020 6:31 pm

I watched Musk on Joe Rogan and I was not that impressed. He’s no Sagan. I don’t think there’s any comparison. He’s not really an educator. He’s definitely not doing anyone any favors with his fake car company and his over-hyped reinvention of a tunnel. SpaceX… I dunno. I’ll be curious to see how far that goes, because his other business pursuits are kind of fake and all hype. I did think it was cool he got his rockets to go up and come back down to land tail-first, like an old 50s scifi movie.

Paulita Senorita!
Paulita Senorita!
  gilberts
January 19, 2020 6:39 pm

musk is a big fake stoner

motley
motley
  gilberts
January 19, 2020 6:47 pm

Go read Miles Mathis’ take on Musk. His rise is that of an imposter. It would seem many of our Captains of Industry are government cut-outs …

RiNS
RiNS
January 19, 2020 1:00 pm

Meh!

Sagan wuz a rube for NASA and the Deep State

M G
M G
  RiNS
January 19, 2020 1:02 pm

I know he was, but what are YOU and Elon Musk?

RiNS
RiNS

I did see it Mags and yeah many days the discourse is like that.. both locally and globally.. and in case it matters I just upvoted it …

I wanna keep my room reserved…

RiNS
RiNS
  M G
March 12, 2020 8:17 am

I’d love a sneak peak… keep me posted.. I’m at work but might go home, rest from the flu and that would be something to watch.

Speaking of chronicles there is a coyote that has been strategically located on side of road on my way to work. For past couple weeks it has been decomposing from indifference..

A timely message….

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
January 19, 2020 1:27 pm

CGI

Paulita Senorita!
Paulita Senorita!
  gatsby1219
January 19, 2020 2:13 pm

Me too.

“This excerpt from Sagan’s book Pale Blue Dot was inspired by an image taken, at Sagan’s suggestion, by Voyager 1 on February 14, 1990.”

Carl Sagan was the boss of VGER? didn’t captain kirk figure out the vger thing?
https://youtu.be/US-DF12DpVk?t=214

see, mags? this is the kind of post i can comment on honestly…

neat video and btw us OKIE from MUSKOGEE gen Xers could see stars too bitch

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
  Paulita Senorita!
January 19, 2020 5:44 pm

So you think the picture is real ?

Paulita Senorita!
Paulita Senorita!
  gatsby1219
January 19, 2020 5:49 pm

nope, unless by real you mean it could be printed out

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
January 19, 2020 10:46 pm

How about the collective bright red dot, on our foreheads? #PrayForVirginia. Don’t know why i did that, i am not on any social evil media. Maybe it will catch on and i will never know

M G
M G
  ILuvCO2
January 20, 2020 6:20 am

Supposedly, we have a “thin blue line.”

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From the article below: To every anti-gunner, I have this to say – I will give up my right to keep and bear arms only after every gun is confiscated from every Secret Service Agent, every member of the military, every elected representative, every federal and state law enforcement official, every cop, every police officer, every peace officer, every security guard, every government agent and bureaucrat, and every criminal.

2013 Lynn M. Stuter – All Rights Reserved

“OF DESPOTS AND SHEEPLE
By Lynn Stuter
January 1, 2013
NewsWithViews.com

Since the Newtown, Connecticut shooting, the anti-gun mafia has been out in full force, inclusive of the lamestream media talking heads, governors, mayors, legislators – state and federal, special interest groups like Sarah Brady’s foaming-at-the-mouth anti-2nd Amendment bunch, and Hollywood weirdoes, to say nothing of the Marxist in the White House; the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns has sprung forth with a PSA – public service announcement – in which a plethora of Hollyweird types appear, calling on Washington to come up with a “gun control plan.” There’s a reason I don’t support the Hollyweird industry – actors may have money, they may have media presence, they may wine and dine with the elite; but, for the most part, they haven’t got the common sense God gave a goose.

All these people want to take away the right of Americans to keep and bear arms. To see just how lacking these people are—in common sense, the ability to think and reason with any degree of logic—take a look at this website where the editor, a rabid anti-gunner, is aiding and abetting the cause by helping criminals identify homes of law-abiding citizens where they might be able to steal a gun. (

  • http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-?nclick_check=1
  • People who don’t learn from history are bound to repeat it.

    We have a Marxist in the White House who would like nothing better than to seize all guns, thereby leaving the American people defenseless against government tyranny. Stalin, Lenin, Hitler and Mussolini were all able to seize power because the people were defenseless to do anything about it.

    What do Stalin, Lenin, Hitler and Mussolini have in common with the Marxist in the White House? They were all Marxists too, of one shade or another, whether fascist, national socialist (Nazi), or communist.

    There are two things that all of these anti-gunners carefully avoid in the discussion of the right to keep and bear arms.

    1) Laws are not made for criminals because criminals don’t obey laws anyway. This makes it very apparent that restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens won’t stop criminals from shooting up malls, churches, schools, theaters, etc.

    2) If the intent is to kill, most anything can be used to accomplish the desired end, including water. In China, recently, a man with a knife stabbed 22 school children. (link to Hindustan Times appears broken)

    That the anti-gun mafia continues to advocate the termination of the right to keep and bear arms, makes their agenda very clear – they want to disarm the American people and leave them defenseless against government tyranny.

    People who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it.

    And history tells us that the very first people purged by despots who have seized power, are those who helped them seize power. Stalin did it; Lenin did it; Mussolini did it; Hitler also did it.

    Why were these the first people to be lined up and executed? Because people who are so easily led, who truly believe in the presumptive cause, are blind to the real agenda of the despot; and once they discover they have been used against their own self-interest, they become the worst enemy of the despot, for there is a very fine line between absolute love and absolute hate. When people figure out they have been used, absolute love turns to absolute hate and these people become very dangerous to the despot.

    And those who helped Stalin, Lenin, Mussolini, Hitler seize power were people just like those now wanting to take away the right of every American to keep and bear arms.

    Are these people really so stupid that they truly believe that the way of the despot won’t happen this time, if they get their way?

    Unfortunately, this class of people never seem to stop to think until it’s too late. Only when they realize the threat to their own self-interest do they realize they’ve been duped and used.

    The anti-gunners couch their argument in terms of being enlightened, progressive, civilized; but they are anything but enlightened; progressive and communist are synonymous; as for being civilized, being ignorant isn’t being civilized. A civilized society is one that adheres to a moral code that reaches across the society, as a whole, binding the citizens together under a common standard.

    As established, America held to such a moral code, and prospered. In America, today, no such moral code exists.

    In America today, brought on by those who call themselves enlightened, progressive, civilized, there is no right and wrong, no moral standard, everything is continually in flux. Under such a society, the advocate can justify every decadent behavior as a “right” while disparaging a moral code as “old fashioned” and archaic. America has, for the past sixty years, taken on the persona of Sodom and Gomorrah. (my emphasis)

    People who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it.

    We can look at what happened to like societies of the past – the worst being the Roman Empire where every kind of decadent behavior was encouraged and practiced openly, until the society imploded due to moral decadence.

    Will America be any different? No. We are watching, due to the moral decay of our society, increased violence, increased crime, increased sexual deviance, increased sexual decadence. No society has for long withstood moral decadence for with such moral decadence comes economic regression and the welfare state, exactly where America stands today.

    Paul Harvey had it right when he said that things in America would only get better when the morals of the people got better.

    To every anti-gunner, I have this to say – I will give up my right to keep and bear arms only after every gun is confiscated from every Secret Service Agent, every member of the military, every elected representative, every federal and state law enforcement official, every cop, every police officer, every peace officer, every security guard, every government agent and bureaucrat, and every criminal.

    The right to keep and bear arms is not about anyone’s “hunting rifle”; the right to keep and bear arms is about the right of the people to defend themselves against anyone who would attempt the taking of their rights.

    What stands between the Marxist in the White House and tyranny is the right of every American to keep and bear arms.

    Two hundred and thirty-six years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence, our Founding Fathers are still more intelligent and have more common sense than the anti-gun crowd. But then they knew, having suffered the tyranny of King George, that the right to keep and bear arms was imperative to the God-given right of every man, woman and child to be free of evil tyrants who walk among us.

    Can we go now?
    Can we go now?
      M G
    January 21, 2020 3:39 pm

    I believe they will devote themselves to enabling every technological advancement possible, up to and including their own extinction.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    January 23, 2020 10:05 am

    It is, of course, only personal if the eyes upon it understand it.