The $64 Question

Via The Raconteur Report

A month ago I was worried we might have 10-20 cases of Kung Flu. Instead, we have nearly 20 deaths. That means those people got it up to a month ago, from other people who didn’t know they had it either.

So far, most of them are elderly, and/or with other co-morbid conditions.

But sooner or later, a relatively healthy 40- or 50-year old with no predisposition is going to croak. Maybe a teacher. Or a school janitor or lunch lady. Then everyone will lose their shit.

The school will be closed. But that person will have infected 40-200 kids, who won’t be symptomatic, who will then be locked up at home to infect their whole families, and you’ll have a blossom of 1000 cases. Some of whom will still be going to work infected and asymptomatic, and give it to co-workers, who’ll give it to their kids, and so on, and so on.

That’s how a pandemic marches onwards.

And it will be everywhere.

Take a pair of ordinary dice. There are only 36 possible combinations (6×6). So the raw chance for any roll is a hair under 3% (2.77% for the anal retentive math geek crowd). If coronavirus only has a 3% chance at being transmitted, every time you’re out and about, you’re rolling the dice. Except you touch things 1000 times a day, and your face about 500 times. (We’ll forget about droplets, mucous membranes, and inhalation vectors from coughing and sneezing people for the moment). So, roll the dice every day, and see how long before snake eyes comes up. Remember those thousands of touches, and 500 times touching your face.

After rolling dice 164 times, your chance of getting snake eyes is 99% probable.

So being out and about, in a world becoming saturated with asymptomatic carriers, you’re not just likely to get Kung Flu, you’re going to get it .

For probably 80% of all persons, two weeks to a month of PITA. For some of them, they may not even know they have it! For 10-17%, you’re going to the hospital. But unless you’re dying, you aren’t getting in. And about 3 people out of every 100 are going to die from it.

If everybody in CA gets it, that’s up to 1.2M deaths. Leaving us with 38.8M swinging Richards afterwards. For Texas, it would be up to 870K dead, and 28M still there. Nationwide, up to 10M dead, and 320M still here.

That’s if mortality holds at 3%, and everyone gets it. Juggling those numbers around on the slide rule gets you any answer you want.

Bad for the 10M dead, and the 20-50M hospitalized/laid out, but that’s not the catastrophe, per se.

The real problem is, the only way to stop this is to send everyone – everyone – home, until 30 days after the last case gets well or dies. Even the idiots among TPTB will figure this out, after exhausting all other half-assed options (just like in China).

If you do nothing, you lose 10M outright, and 50M who can’t work for months, and 100M more out for up to a month, but not all at once.

That’s the problem. Either of those options screws the economy like a $2 hooker, which is why the stock market is in freefall, why Italy and China have thrown in the towel, and why Korea and the rest of Europe probably will too, before we figure it out.

And until you self-quarantine, and don’t pop positive in the next month, you won’t know you don’t have it already either.

So the $64 Questions is, how long can you miss work, school etc., and how much money, water, food, medicine, and other necessities do you have, to stay home for what may become a mandatory extended quarantine? Will you have a job to go back to when it’s over? Will anyone?

We’ll leave the discussion of how you hold a valid general election for the President, 1/3 of the Senate, and the entire Congress amidst this sort of thing, for another time.

Local observation:

I note for informational purposes that the local bookseller, B and N, is suddenly light on disaster/survival/preparedness books, which had formerly just been gathering dust, and is now missing every volume on first aid. Because I check those aisles 2-3X/week, and probably know them better than store staff.

Some people are getting edjumicated, apparently.

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Also, over at WRSA, one of the He’s-who-shall-not-be-named observed accurately that contrary to all dystopian fiction, the stores remain open and unburnt, rather than the popular “stripped to the walls in 48-72 hours”.

Allow me to respond:

Food isn’t coming here from China (unlike N95 masks), the trucks are still running, and you’re still free to travel, and not under draconian quarantine.
Yet.

So there isn’t any national emergency, for the moment.
{cf. 1940: Phony War. Compare and contrast with Dunkirk, and the Battle of Britain, a few months later.}

Once you can’t go out, it won’t matter what’s on the shelf. The average person and family has three days’ food at home. (If you have more, by definition, you’re above average, just like the kids at Lake Wobegone. That also means somewhere there’s some jackass who has less than three days on hand.)

So, how long do store shelves stay stocked (and not gloriously aflame) when the trucks aren’t rolling, and Trayvon Diversity and his posse go emergency shopping after midnight, with a brick and a machete?

And what happens when people who depend on prescriptions, made from precursors that aren’t coming from China, and haven’t been for the last month or two, start getting shorted on their Rx meds, esp. the ones that

a) keep them alive, or
b) keep them sane and functional?

Just curious.

Feel free to extrapolate at your own leisure, as you see fit, considering those new data points.

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84 Comments
Chicken Little
Chicken Little
March 7, 2020 3:33 pm

the sky is falling! The answer is simple. STOP DRINKING CORONA.

James
James
  Chicken Little
March 7, 2020 6:31 pm

Why would anyone give a thumbs down to not drinking Corona beer?!

Tis one of the few funny things about this whole mess,Corona(the beer)really did get fucked here!

Hyperborean
Hyperborean
  Chicken Little
March 7, 2020 6:35 pm

Bat Soup Virus theme song…

22winmag - TBP's bloviating "White Jew"
22winmag - TBP's bloviating "White Jew"
  Hyperborean
March 8, 2020 5:22 am
M G
M G
March 7, 2020 3:34 pm

I think I might go close that gate.

M G
M G
  M G
March 7, 2020 3:40 pm

comment image

We’re good now.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
  M G
March 8, 2020 6:28 pm

Nice treehouse, MG.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
March 7, 2020 3:36 pm

Trayvon’s posse – that would be Phelopia and Testiklees.

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
March 7, 2020 3:46 pm

Thoughts to ponder. Treating the really ill is going to require triage because if it becomes this bad there won’t be enough beds, meds or supplies to treat everyone. Huge Moral dilemma who gets the cross on the forehead indicating not to treat, they’re going to die?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Cow Doctor
March 7, 2020 4:05 pm

It will be simple for them to determine. If you arrived in a Mercedes or BMW, welcome to your private room at $1,500/day.

If you are on Medicare or Medicaid, take two aspirin and call me in the morning.

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
  TN Patriot
March 7, 2020 4:32 pm

If the hospital bureaucrats make the choice you’re correct, they have no morals and $$$ is their God. The doctors and nurses not so much. If the choice is theirs they face a huge Moral Dilemma.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Cow Doctor
March 7, 2020 5:19 pm

When it all boils down to the final choice in a pandemic, I think they will let the old die off and try to save the younger generation. Nobody but our kids and grandchildren really want us around.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  TN Patriot
March 7, 2020 4:38 pm

… if it was real, that is exactly the way it would be. Money talks.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  overthecliff
March 7, 2020 7:55 pm

If it was real? Dear God how can you still be so dense? You do know that Aesop is a nurse, ER type. You think he’s lying about this virus? Did you read the article or are you here to waste space?

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
  Mygirl...maybe
March 8, 2020 6:31 pm

You go Girl!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TN Patriot
March 7, 2020 4:51 pm

It’s also proven that ibuprofen can cause kidney abnormalities and damage if taken for extended periods of time, like for chronic pain.

Osage Orange
Osage Orange
  Anonymous
March 7, 2020 10:21 pm

Worked great for me for 35 years; best I can tell I still have functioning kidneys. Popped 2 ibuees half an hour before strenuous work or exercise. Nothing else came close.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
  Osage Orange
March 8, 2020 6:33 pm

I do a Ibuprofen PM every night at bedtime along with 10 MG Melatonin. Sleep like a baby.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  WestcoastDeplorable
March 9, 2020 12:55 pm

Can’t take ibuprofen so on the occasional sleep issue I do 2 or 3 shots of high quality bourbon in a frozen glass . Works well everytime

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Cow Doctor
March 7, 2020 7:59 pm

Yup and for all those naysayers who were writing articles about this virus ‘hoax’? Guess what, children, this is real and Aesop enumerates quite clearly what all the hoopla is about. Anyone who STILL wants to bury their heads? Have at it, just don’t go whining when you can’t get medical care, supplies or anything else because none is to be had and the system is overloaded.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Cow Doctor
March 7, 2020 8:10 pm

Going to be a big issue, there simply is little or no flex capacity.

I had a heart bypass, CABG (4 grafts) two weeks ago…..and I am doing awesome but still weak as a kitten…..this will take me out along with all the other currently sick folks. The triage is not just Flu patients but all other cancer, heart, COPD, dialysis, trauma etc……having just spent 9 days in an acute care hospital…..there were no empty beds in the ICU or on the cardiac care ward….none.

I am not afraid of dying never have been, but getting taken out by this Chi-com flu will suck.

So far no cases in MT, but it is probably circulating around either asymptomatically or light cases. The kids are all going on Spring Break…….I bet they bring it back with them.

youknowwhoIam
youknowwhoIam
  Martel's Hammer
March 7, 2020 9:06 pm

Start eating onions. Daily.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Martel's Hammer
March 7, 2020 9:57 pm

Damn son, sorry you had to go thru it and relieved to hear you’re healing well. Hopefully you can heal and isolate. Keep us posted.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Mygirl...maybe
March 8, 2020 9:46 am

I had the heart attack and walked around 10 days before seeking medical attention (Montana Strong/Stoic), then I was rushed by ambulance 150 miles to get the bypass which went quite well. The recovery is moderately challenging especially the no-lifting anything more than 6-8lbs to allow the sternum to heal. I had a really bad wreck on the race track with the bike in my avatar….8 broken ribs, broken collar bone, punctured lung…..that recovery really hurt!

One thing I have learned is that human connection is the most valuable thing we have. Whether it is the support of family/friends or the hospital staff that human interaction is everything. I will be noticeably less acerbic going forward.

Capacity is going to be a big issue, having had a very up close and personal view of how the ICU works, the serious condition ward (dedicated post-op heart ward)……at least in Billings, MT they run efficiently and effectively at 90%+ capacity every day. So to accommodate Covid-19 patients others will not be served.

On a broader note, the whole idea of JIT, LEAN, etc. may have to be reviewed and certainly, the supply chain currently housed in China must change. We in the USA mispriced the risk of not having the ability to support ourselves in favor of a known cheap price (and suspect quality) from a Chinese product…….

China makes 95% of our anti-biotics……and they eat bat soup…..that was a terrible idea!

James
James
March 7, 2020 3:51 pm

Well,build/fill holes in your stockpile,at moment,we still can.As for the free lunch crowd,well,that tis what ammo is for,I mean,you cant see the top of your closet you bought so much over the years,right…..?!I am so looking forward to round 7 o’ckock when I break out the beer,I am gonna get lit as perhaps time for useless recreational activity coming to a end.

To the more knowledgeable here,am a bit low on isopryl alcohol, want to make a spray bottle for car for sanitizing,while perhaps not great for hands assume bleach will work?

Gloriously Deplorable Paul
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
  James
March 7, 2020 4:08 pm

Bleach and alcohol both said to be effective. So-called sanitizing wipes generally useful if the surface is left wet from the wipe for 3-4 minutes before touching.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Gloriously Deplorable Paul
March 7, 2020 5:21 pm

I have not seen rubbing alcohol in stock for more than a week. Bleach is still available, but not full shelves.

James
James
  TN Patriot
March 7, 2020 6:15 pm

Thanks Paul,this is going to be my going out and about hand cleaner in car..

TN,pool shock should be variable at stores next week or two,feel is already in warehouses getting ready for the season.I in my shopping reports have mentioned rubbing alcohol always has been out,perhaps folks will actually use it along with some common sense and help keep this little critter a bit more scarce.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  James
March 7, 2020 7:53 pm

Hydrogen peroxide will work. Ditto vinegar but the concentrations have to be more, like use pickling vinegar.
“Vinegar is a natural product that is shown to kill cold and flu germs. It is 5 percent acetic acid, and the acid is what kills bacteria and viruses. Mix hot water and vinegar for the best results. Hydrogen peroxide, another common household item, can also be used to kill bacteria and viruses.”
Smearing bleach on your skin isn’t a good idea. ditto car upholstery. Go get some Everclear.
Any alcohol above 62% will work. Got moonshine?
https://ololrmc.com/blogs/best-flu-fighting-household-cleaners

BL
BL
  Mygirl...maybe
March 7, 2020 9:01 pm

MyG- I have a relative that keeps a 15 year old mason jar of “shine” in the freezer for treating the flu. Far as I know it works just fine and no deaths from the cure either.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  BL
March 7, 2020 10:58 pm

There is wisdom there. We used to make a mild toddy with honey, lemon, warm water and a bit of brandy or whiskey. It did the trick. I had bronchitis and strep throat before and during Christmas holidays. No booze in hand or house but had lemon, honey and warm water and that helped very much.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Mygirl...maybe
March 7, 2020 10:59 pm

Just got this in comments on Zerohedge, for what it’s worth, about the wuflu from a Chinese doctor:

13 minutes ago
(Edited)
remove
From a facebook post. Make your own determination of credibility.

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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT – CORONAVIRUS
Last evening dining out with friends, one of their uncles, who’s graduated with a master’s degree and who worked in Shenzhen Hospital (Guangdong Province, China) sent him the following notes on Coronavirus for guidance:

1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold.

2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.

3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. [edit] 80° F

4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.

5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours – so if you come into contact with any metal surface – wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.

6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.

7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.

8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but – a lot can happen during that time – you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.

9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.

10. Can’t emphasise enough – drink plenty of water!

THE SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you’ll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days.

2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.

3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.

4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you’re drowning. It’s imperative you then seek immediate attention.

SPREAD THE WORD – PLEASE SHARE.

WeeWee'd up
WeeWee'd up
March 7, 2020 3:53 pm

Seems like, if reporting is correct, that there are two strains…. just looking around a bit for the stats on this thing…. I think it’s pretty safe to say that the more dangerous strain is in italy right now… You can find pretty good reporting HERE … you can scroll down and see details by country by day… Let’s look at italy for today ( so far ) Of course, the mortality rate for closed cases means nothing because of all the open cases but, what is more disturbing is that between 50 and 60% of cases require hospitalization and 12% require intensive care.

1,247 new cases and 36 new deaths in Italy [source]
Percentage of deaths by age group:
90+ years old: 6% of deaths
80 – 89 years old: 42% of deaths
70 – 79 years old: 35% of deaths
60 – 69 years old: 16% of deaths

– Among the 5,061 active cases, 3,218 (55%) are hospitalized, 567 of which (representing 11% of active cases) are in intensive care

– Among the 822 closed cases, 589 (72%) have recovered, 233 (28%) have died

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
March 7, 2020 3:59 pm

” how you hold a valid general election for the President, 1/3 of the Senate, and the entire Congress”

I am nit picking here, but the Senate is 1/2 of Congress. The House of Representatives is the other 1/2.

Moar fear and moar reason to go to the local Wally World and buy whatever is on the shelf.

brewer55
brewer55
March 7, 2020 4:00 pm

Well, now aren’t you just a ray of sunshine?? lol…if even 50% of the scenario you just pointed out comes to pass, it will definitely qualify as TEOTWAWKI!

M G
M G
  Administrator
March 7, 2020 4:24 pm

I knew it would be like gold one day! I knew it!

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Administrator
March 7, 2020 5:22 pm

And Sears has gone bankrupt so no more Sears catalogs like the old days.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  TN Patriot
March 7, 2020 6:18 pm

but the snow is melting…. gather up those leaves for drying out

Hans
Hans
  Administrator
March 7, 2020 6:40 pm

No, no. I can’t spare a square.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Administrator
March 7, 2020 5:08 pm

Looks like me cleaning the garage, with friends.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Administrator
March 7, 2020 5:58 pm

WTF?

Leaf blowers for a healthy future.

James
James
March 7, 2020 4:13 pm

OK,the sky is now falling,Milan Italy and neighboring regions in lock down till April,where the hell am I going to get a decent pair of loafers?!

M G
M G
  James
March 7, 2020 4:29 pm

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I never heard of rabbit mocassins but I’m willing to give ‘er a try!

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That silver rabbit still tries to bite me.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  M G
March 7, 2020 8:10 pm

That bunny know you gonna eat her, she’s not stupid….
As to shoes, well, childerens, just save them old tires….

starfcker
starfcker
  James
March 7, 2020 5:44 pm

Fear not, James. I’m pretty sure Hugo Boss still manufactures shoes in Germany

James
James
  starfcker
March 7, 2020 7:26 pm

I will say that bunny moccasin looks cozy as hell,just do not have the heart to slaughter bunnies,guess Maggies up!

Uncola
Uncola
March 7, 2020 4:24 pm

What amazes me about the Kung Flu is how much panic has been generated on the Alternative Internet. And the reason propaganda works is because people want to believe it. They want to believe this is a man-made indestructible virus. It makes sense, because Wuhan contains biolabs. Therefore this virus must be bad. “It could have been mated to the AIDS virus to become so contagious“, they say. “It’s different than the swine flu, SARS, and MERS“, they say.

In fact, there seems to be a sort of “reverse lottery effect” at play – like the way people buy tickets because they can’t win if they don’t play. In so doing, they place their hope in a minuscule percentage of ever winning. Except now with COVID-19, it’s become…. like… “3%… it’s still a chance it could happen to me, ya know”?

Tell you what: If the sun is shining in your area, get out under it and take a bicycle ride, or a walk, or a run. Vitamin D is activated in sunlight and, in turn, allows all other nutrition to facilitate the immune system. Eat your fruits and vegetables and set aside your bad habits for awhile.

Healthy nutrition, fresh air, and sunshine should be the plan. Drink lots of water (I prefer distilled, myself). Relax. Manage your stress by finding gratitude in the moment. And if you really want to become indestructible, allow your body to harness the circadian rhythm by getting to bed by 9-9:30 PM. The body heals most effectively between the hours of 10PM and 2 AM. Try it and you’ll be amazed – especially in combination with the other suggestions above.

In reading the “We Are So F*cked” article (that was posted as a peer to this one), it amazes me how people look to the CDC or WHO to save them. Or the government. Or even the medical system, when it comes to non-bacterial bugs.

If you get sick, don’t panic. The odds are that you’ll get better. And if you don’t, consider it an exploration into metaphysics.

Chill, people. Chill.

However, that all said, I’ll additionally say this: Yes… COVID-19 is becoming a big deal – especially as an economic Black Swan.

For example, this coming week I had reason and opportunity to fly to Washington State spur of the moment. But I chose not to, in part, because of COVID-19. Why take a chance, ya know? And even if my percentage of survival is estimated as higher-than-average, I still could get caught away from home via canceled flights and other potential societal reverberations.

So if even this skeptical blogger is making decisions like that on the basis of COVID-19, then there is no doubt it COULD become the proverbial pin in the economic, and even civilizational, balloon. Or, it could be a fuzzy memory by June.

We’ll see. In the meantime, and as for me, I never gamble with what I can’t afford to lose.

lgr
lgr
  Uncola
March 7, 2020 4:36 pm

Good advice, Unc.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Uncola
March 7, 2020 5:03 pm

Doug.
Re your first paragraph. It’s a drug similar to self pity. Slow release adrenaline. Low grade crisis is quite similar to the drug ones gets from a prolonged wallow. And no I’m not a fukkin Doctor thank God. What I am is an expert in adrenaline rushes and wallowing and the recovery process.
Regarding the Alt-Media. I read just recently how they are doing more to generate panic than the MSM.

Uncola
Uncola
  Fleabaggs
March 7, 2020 7:11 pm

Flea,

You wrote:

Regarding the Alt-Media. I read just recently how they are doing more to generate panic than the MSM.

They’re generating more panic because they are more trusted.

I was surprised Steve Quayle did not post my last article. Obviously he didn’t agree with what I wrote. But to not let his readers decide? I didn’t understand that.

At the same time, however, it is his site and he can do whatever he wants. Overall, I’m grateful for him posting my past articles.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Uncola
March 7, 2020 7:43 pm

Doug.
Fleabaggs from phone. I noticed rense did that also but His omission didn’t surprise me as much. To me the lethality of this virus? is now unimportant. It’s what “They’re” doing and plan to do with it that I’m concerned about. Mary said she expects “Them” to initiate national quarantine one state at a time for a bit and then 3 or 4 at a time till we’re all on lockdown. I agree. And the unholy stuff in any vaccine they may force on us should worry even an athiest.

Uncola
Uncola
  Anonymous
March 7, 2020 10:12 pm

JC on a bike and Flea on a phone. I swear. This place has everything.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Uncola
March 7, 2020 5:52 pm

That’s why we have to laugh, too. It Releases endorphins in your brain that encourage healing and probably boosts your immune system.

I don’t worry that I will get it. Maybe I will and if I don’t something else will kill me. What is a problem is the possibility that overloaded hospitals will not be able to manage even a 10 percent increase in critical care. Plus quarantined healthcare workers that have been exposed. You have a serious accident? Sorry, no room for you.

Why is the alternative media beating on this so much? Because they are looking for some alternative answers and the answers they keep coming up with are not so rosy a picture as “it’s just a bunch of propaganda”. Sure, some of it is. But people keep popping up with this so something else is going on.

anonymous
anonymous
  Mary Christine
March 7, 2020 6:57 pm

Titles like “We’re so F_ed” are ensuring panic sets in. An article just up on Zero Hedge show a California neighborhood being locked down by police without warning over an as yet unconfirmed person dying there from a virus.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mary Christine
March 7, 2020 7:16 pm

Mary.
Gov. Cuomo says mass quarantine the best way. MASS QUARANTINE.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2020/03/07/620360/New-York-Governor-Andrew-Cuomo-emergency-Coronavirus-US

James
James
  Fleabaggs
March 7, 2020 7:30 pm

It’s beginning……

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Fleabaggs
March 7, 2020 7:52 pm

Well of course he does, Flea. He’s a statist. He loves control. I’m gonna see if I can talk my grandsons father out of flying him to Buffalo for spring break.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
March 7, 2020 8:05 pm

Mary.
Me from phone. You might not get him back for a long time. He has all his support at your place.

James
James
  Uncola
March 7, 2020 7:28 pm

“Consider it an exploration into metaphysics”?!Damn,I thought that’s what shrooms/little pieces of paper ect.along with Floyd/Yes was for!

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Uncola
March 7, 2020 8:15 pm

Woohoo, so the Uncola is just a tad, a teensy weensy bit concerned about that hoaxy virus? Chill child, it’s only old people or sickly people or unlucky people or whatever, who get it. That’s this week, next week? Bar the door. The growth is exponential and the ‘authorities’ are clueless or worse, you are on your own and never, ever forget that salient fact.

piearesquared
piearesquared
  Uncola
March 7, 2020 9:11 pm

I agree with you that the actual medical consequences of the coronavirus are not that significant, probably not much more than a typical flu. However the economic (factories shut down in China, travel slowdown, quarantines etc.) and societal (fear, hoarding, etc.) consequences are going to be devastating, both on their own accord and because the Fed is going to use this perceived crisis as cover for a controlled demolition of the Everything Bubble so that the coronavirus will take the blame instead of its own (deliberate) mismanagement over the last 15-20 years.

I have also seen a fair amount of anecdotal evidence that the effects of the coronavirus can be made much more severe if combined with 5G. This lends credence to the theory that it is a bioweapon that was accidentally or deliberately released (probably deliberately). If it can be controlled with 5G, that means it can be made more severe at any time in areas that have 5G, which is going to be most areas before too long.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Uncola
March 8, 2020 8:50 am

Thanks for putting this in perspective.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
March 7, 2020 5:13 pm

90% of the dead so far in the US were elderly people in 2 separate nursing homes. They’ve not yet identified a single one- except for one man who held up a picture of his 85 year old mother at a home made press conference yesterday.

Both places have websites an if you look at the pictures of the caregivers you will notice that they look very different from their patients and not just because they are younger.

How difficult could it possibly be to determine who came and went from a nursing home over the course of the past month and track it back? These people aren’t flying off to Milan on the weekends, they’re confined to their beds, maybe the day room if they’re lucky. Someone who entered those facilities brought the virus in with them.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Hardscrabble Farmer
March 7, 2020 8:20 pm

So how many people are being tested? Don’t know? How many ‘flu like’ deaths are actually covid 19? Don’t know? Have you paid attention to Italy and Iran or is the American bubble sufficient?

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Mygirl...maybe
March 7, 2020 8:47 pm

Don’t know.

Dan
Dan
March 7, 2020 5:22 pm

Take a pair of ordinary dice. There are only 36 possible combinations (6×6)

Probably just me being pedantic, but there are actually 21 combinations when rolling a pair of dice:

1-1
1-2
1-3
1-4
1-5
1-6
2-2
2-3
2-4
2-5
2-6
3-3
3-4
3-5
3-6
4-4
4-5
4-6
5-5
5-6
6-6

There are, of course, 36 permutations. Just sayin’.

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
March 7, 2020 5:30 pm

Evidence? Not reporting from sources famous for deception. None. None I have seen. None that indicate anything remarkable except a discrete virus, and not a peculiarly malicious one at that. But the sky is falling, right?? Must be, because that is what the powers that be want us to believe.

Bullshit. Oh, the economy will tank, but that has nothing to do with the virus. And maybe Trump will not be re-selected. No matter there either, there has not been President elected in this country in a long time, and there won’t be this year either. A big controlled demolition is underway in every non-shithole nation on the globe, and there is no avoiding the debris field for us mutts.

But the Coronavirus® is bullshit, and Epstein did not kill himself.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Brian Reilly
March 7, 2020 6:03 pm

My son observed that it’s probably just a way for Walmart to unload huge surpluses of toilet paper and bleach.

Remember the anthrax scare after 9/11? I wonder how many people still have drawers full of duct tape?

James
James
  Hardscrabble Farmer
March 7, 2020 6:21 pm

Duct tape is the answer though to many of life’s problems,really can’t have enough,just ask Red Green.

The thing I remember most about the anthrax scare was the band Anthrax was actually for just a moment considering changing their name.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  James
March 7, 2020 6:45 pm

If something can’t be fixed with duct tape and baling wire it needed to be replaced anyway.

James
James
  Anonymous
March 7, 2020 7:31 pm

Anon,does this include relationships?

Asking for a friend.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
  James
March 8, 2020 7:42 pm

In that case it’s duct tape and barb wire, otherwise known as “The Devil’s Rope”: http://knuckledraggin.com/2020/03/the-devils-rope-museum/

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anonymous
March 7, 2020 8:08 pm

Duct tape cannot fix stupid. It does, however, muffle the sound.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  TN Patriot
March 7, 2020 8:47 pm

That’s a killer line.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Hardscrabble Farmer
March 7, 2020 9:13 pm

My assistant used to have a small poster of that saying on her wall and I took to liking it, a LOT.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  Hardscrabble Farmer
March 8, 2020 1:29 pm

Stop trying to suffocate the Doom Porn atmosphere!

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
March 7, 2020 9:15 pm

Denninger makes some guesses about fatality rates. Also suggests getting your respiratory health into top notch, if possible. https://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238382 The reason I’ve been exercising so much lately is for the endorphins. Probably about time to stop going to the gym (might as well delay catching it) and increase the mileage and intensity of my “runs” (jogs, really).

KaD
KaD
March 7, 2020 11:39 pm

In 2019, the U.S. Was the #1 Country in Trying to Turn Itself into a Third World Hellscape Through Refugee Settlement

22winmag - TBP's bloviating "White Jew"
22winmag - TBP's bloviating "White Jew"
  KaD
March 8, 2020 5:33 am

Oh boy

Dan Crenshaw Calls for Immediate Republican Action at the Federal Level to Stop Climate Change

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 8, 2020 3:47 am

So, um, “a mandatory extended quarantine” for everyone in the U.S. for two months – basically starting yesterday – or else a 100% infection rate? Am I reading this correctly?

22winmag - TBP's bloviating "White Jew"
22winmag - TBP's bloviating "White Jew"
March 8, 2020 5:20 am

Level of importance at the end of the day:

10 year U.S. Treasury > 10 million dead

30 year U.S. Treasury > 30 million dead

View post on imgur.com

I’d rather be right exactly where I am in the PROMISED LAND if shit ever goes full SHTF.

Default came and nobody noticed.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
March 8, 2020 12:01 pm

You missed a point. At least 50% don’t have symptoms at all – so they can carry on as normal, the rest under 65 just take time off, as usual. The problem is being exacerbated by trying to measure all this and test all and sundry. If we were to just carry on regardless, allowing those with flu to just get over it and those with serious respiratory effects (mainly the elderly and not workers anyway) to go to hospital as usual.

In the 1940s in UK, I got measles, mumps, whooping cough and chicken pox. Two weeks in bed in each case, learning to embroider and doing jigsaws with mother’s chicken soup; Robinson’s blackcurrant drink and aspirin. No testing, doctor called once and said he’ll get over it, no hospital and no visitors amidst the rationing. I got over it and dodged the bombs at the same time. Jeez, this generation are certainly ready for the Fourth Turning – the sooner the better.

‘Stay Calm and Carry On’ as our dear HMG would say.