Guest Post by The Zman
After close to a week of dithering, Jared Kushner allowed Trump to stage a publicity stunt, where he waddled out of the White House down to the church the looters had burned the other night. In front of the cameras, Trump held up a Bible and said some things. They said it symbolized national resilience to the mob violence that is engulfing the nation’s cities. In reality, it was the perfect image for a presidency that is nothing more than live action role playing.
Trump holding up a Bible is as ridiculous as Democrats talking about the Constitution and the rule of law. Trump is famously not religious. His life has been one of hedonism and self-regard. He does not attend services and breaks into hives whenever he has to speak about religion. There’s a good chance he was worried that he may be struck by lightning out there. It was the sort of highly choreographed political stunt that symbolizes everything that people hate about democracy.
That said, it will work with the plan-trusters. Scott Greer took to Twitter to announce that Trump saved his re-election campaign. Lots of his fellow plan-trusters seem to agree, at least for now. Way back in the election of 2016, Trump said “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters.” He took some grief for that at the time, but he was right. For his supporters, Trump is a vehicle through which they experience an alternative reality.
Under Trump, a new form of fantasy game has emerged. This new game is where Trump voters, and those adjacent, rush to social media in a crisis and start posting about “what Trump should do…” It’s followed by what is often a sensible suggestion, but one that will never happen. Then a long back and forth of various strategies about what he should do ensues. Sometimes Trump will goose this along with some tweets that are designed to encourage this form of role playing.
Of course, Trump never does anything. He’ll tweet out some outrage porn to the Left and make some vague threats, but otherwise he is all talk and no action. Right now, for example, he and President Kushner are trying to figure out how to win back the six black votes they were counting on this November. Now that “lowest black unemployment in history” has proven to be something less than the inspirational message they assumed, it is back to the drawing board.
In lieu of action, these internet fantasies fill the void left in these voter’s minds. They get to pretend that Trump will actually do something other than laugh at them. They look at Trump awkwardly holding a Bible in front of St. John’s Church and imagine it is a great moment where the country rallies around their hero. They get the same rush from the make believe as they would from the real. Trump pretending to do whatever it is he is promising is the same as Trump actually doing something.
In fact, they often believe it is real. Talk to a true-blue MAGA type and they will tell you Trump has clamped down on immigration and is now “draining the swamp.” If you point out the facts, they will call you a “libtard” and refuse to discuss it further. For example, many of these people not only think he is building the wall, but that it is already built, which why he no longer discuss it. The fantasy version of the Trump presidency is so fulfilling it has supplanted the real Trump presidency.
This is a form of false consciousness. Instead of workers unable to understand class reality and their own exploitation, it is white conservatives unable to process their diminished status in America. In the real world, they are at the bottom of the social hierarchy, slowly being eliminated from society. In the fantasy realm, they are still the top dogs. In the fantasy version of Trump, he is one of them, acting on behalf of their interests, when in reality, he is a tool of the ruling class.
An interesting off-shoot of this is that when you can get a Trump supporter to acknowledge that he has done nothing for them, they switch tracks. He stops being the God-Emperor and becomes Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith Goes To Washington. He is the sincere reformer being thwarted by the corrupt machine. In an instant, the main character in the fantasy goes from omnipotent leader to impotent victim. Trump fighting Washington is just another version of the fantasy.
Both sides of this fantasy have one thing in common. There is an unspoken, instinctive contempt for democracy. In the God-Emperor mode, Trump is issuing edicts and imposing his will on the nation. In the tragic hero version, the will of the people is thwarted by a corrupt system. In both versions, voting and debating, the core of democracy, have no role. One version is the hero slaying democracy and the other version is the hero being slain by democracy.
This form of false consciousness is not exclusive to Trump fans. His enemies now engage in their own fantasies. They imagine him as Orange Hitler and they carry on as if he really is a dictator. Further, they will convince themselves that Joe Biden is reversing all of Orange Hitler’s polices, once he is in the White House. Within days of Biden taking office, they will pretend Biden has swept aside all of the things they spent four years pretending Trump was doing.
The difference is that with the Left, they expect the fantasy to be made real and they get angry when it fails to happen. We saw this in the Obama years. They really did think he was the prophesied messiah, who would usher in a new era. As the reality of his administration became too hard to ignore, the Left got mad. When Trump won in 2016, they got super-agitated and have remained so ever since. The current round of riots are just a carryover from the disappointment of the Obama years.
For the normie right, anger and rioting are off the table, so they will continue to indulge in the fantasy game that is the Trump presidency. He will continue to monitor the situation and consider doing things. Maybe a symbolic executive order will be tossed in for effect. Meanwhile, his base will invent scenarios in which he drains the swamp and owns the libs. The less he does, the deeper the fantasy. Trump is the first virtual President, playing a role for the amusement of his voters.
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Trump is not a builder, he is a destroyer, and it is exactly a Destroyer this country needs right now to dismantle the choking global financial nexus that has strangled this country for the last 50 years. Anyone that will dismantle Globalism and its twin pillars of Financialization and De-Industrialization has my support. Otherwise, the alternative is even worse and was reaching a state of maturity that could not be undone.
Fed is digging its own grave right now. The only way to kill the Fed is to let it keep printing to infinity and beyond. When Fed falls all hell will break loose, but I surmise it will be a cleansing hell.
God bless the Federal Reserve.
It has been passing out marked monopoly money to domestic and global criminals since it’s inception, and America would be flying blind in a hailstorm without it.
Because of the Fed, and only because of the Fed, America knows where all the bodies are buried.
Ice, that must be why El Trump put half of Goldman Sachs in his cabinet…..to save us. Riiiiight!
Sshh! Never interupt your enemy while he is making a mistake.
Iceman.
The Fed is deliberately being taken down so it can be replaced with a global currency.
I know the theory, but there is another less well known theory with a different outcome. Road to Root_A.
When it falls, the outcome isn’t necessarily binary – there are other multiple outcomes.
It’s not a theory. It’s happening now.
Just for comparison the Euro was implemented in an environment of great Kumbaya – that’s why all the ridiculous Millennium celebrations were held a year early (actual Millennium started Jan 1, 2001). Spice Girls, 300 pound holiday junkets to Tenerife, yob rules, etc.
Trying to force a global anything on a population needs the right environment. Not a lot of Kumbaya right now to get anything done.
What is going on right now is the Arab Spring playbook being implemented here in USA but instead of a Tunisian merchant setting himself on fire we have ol’ George Floyd getting a knee to the neck for 9 minutes. All Arab Spring color revolutions were put down with extreme vengeance and the organizers jailed, put to death, or died in prison. Not a peep from these places since. The only one that worked was Ukraine, and that was nearly lost.
Interesting times ahead.
Arab spring organizers are alive and well, they accomplished what they wanted with them.
Soon wel will have a new money system starting with SDR’s. It will then morph into a one world currency even while countries may have their own domestic fiat money.
Not in Egypt.
We already have SDRs and it is Trump that is blocking new issues of SDRs to deal with global meltdown.
Amero was already on books with Bush and Rick Perry signed up – the Texas GOP establishment was all for the Amero and merging with Mexico.
Not sure why you are getting so many downvotes here ICE. Methinks you are spot on with the synopsis…
When you need a wheelbarrow of phony federal reserve notes to buy a loaf of bread…
Yah, let me know. My bread is about $1 for a loaf right now.
The Fed’s product is debt. No corporation can go out of business when their product is selling so well.
ICE-9,
have you ever read the Unabomber’s manifesto?
Its almost like you didn’t even read the article…..
I got bored reading it, especially after getting lost in thought and wondering if anyone has ever seen hussein obama even once carrying a bible.
“SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BUILD UP THE CHOKING GLOBAL FINANCIAL NEXUS IN ORDER TO DESTROY THE CHOKING GLOBAL FINANCIAL NEXUS.”
-ANONYMOUS
Spot on quote by mouse.
Why interrupt enemy when they they are in the middle of making a fatal mistake…
Defense Secretary Esper is the next item on the Trump destruction agenda. He got caught blabbing to NBC and screwed up “bigly” by disagreeing with Trump. Esper will get canned, watch.
All the issues with China and Ukraine disrupted a lot of pay for play payoffs for dirty people.
Kick your feet up, watch the show. It gets better.
Anon- God I hope it gets better, we have been waiting for three and a half years for DT to do something and so far Wall Street and the Israelis are the only people “WINNING”. YAWN…….
When do Q-Tips and MAGA Minions question his judgment in the hiring process? Can a QT or MM answer this for me, please?
Columnists are gonna column.
The Trump loyalists will hate this article.
Because, as the article explains, they recoil from the truth.
Hillary 2020 !
Trump loyalists? Please, this is a pathetic hit piece crafted by a fraud who pretends to have a clue about what it means to be a conservative. Zman? He’s so far up the ass of the democrats and their playbook that it’s a wonder he can draw breath. He’s probably kneeling while he types on his keyboard, thinking about how he can fund Antifa and the DNC and BLM and curry favor with every black rioter and looter so they don’t kick his cowardly ass.
To you never Trumpers, enjoy your senile pedophile, extortionist and his black female VP, he’s gonna fix things real good for all you precious little children. You all would bitch if hung with a new rope. Man can’t do enough for you, you want your asses kissed and miracles to fly around like pixies. Guess you don’t consider what he’s managed to do despite the most vicious campaign ever launched against a sitting president, can’t look at that, nope, gotta whine like little babies because Trump didn’t do the impossible. Where were you all when Obama was king? Bupkiss. You are frauds and babies. Now, go downvote away you cadre of whining spoiled brats.
Tell us what he did there Trumpster. Tell me what I should consider so I can consider it.
Sounds like you ain’t getting laid, Flea.
Becuase I dare question the Queen of Mean? Unlike you soybean, nobody ever has to guess what I believe or stand for.
Oh shit, the moon is full and Unkle Frankie is turning into Krankie Frankie.
I’m just a troll, but Trumpolini is on the ropes and it’s time to switch sides.
If you must know, I learned from my old boss, the Italian Stallion – Whenever I see two (or more) against one guy, I’m for that guy.
mgm/el bozo.
That’s all you two have to offer. Cheap insults because you have no real argument.
You have no argument because you are of such sub par intelligence.
El bozo is a spineless wimp who would say anything to get you to be nice to him.
I’m no longer saying anything to you becuase it isn’t worth it. You are nothing more than a dimwitted evil spawn of the devil. You spew venom and vile insults whenever anyone defies you becuse that’s what your father the devil does.
You trashed 4 good people without mercy for saying the flu was a hoax. Just like your father the devil, you never acknowledged that it turned out to be a scam.
You’re to be pitied when you have to tie a steak around your neck just so EC will kiss you.
I don’t mean to offer a cheap insult, Flea, but you are quite variable, one minute a happy jack and the next a bitter brawler. This is not the place where people go around apologizing, that only happens among long-time friends here.
Stop getting so riled up, we are here to bullshit, talk, discuss, tear apart, evaluate, weigh and confront the issues.
You are an excellent contributor and I appreciate your comments on a variety of topics. Please continue to enlighten us.
As for Big Red, I don’t beg for any woman’s attention (except T4C’s – that is a scarce commodity). Big Red is a friend of mine and she owes me a dance. I don’t even have to suck up for it, it’s mine. I admire her tenacity. I know where she lives, I’ve thought of riding up on a horse one day over to her trailer in the hills outside San Antone, making sure I got some Nocona boots on because of the rattlers and Gila monsters. I’ll have some boiled coffee, catch a glimpse of her paintings and then ask her to dance some tawdry tune about trashy women.
You love the shit Obama did? You loved his judicial appointments? His signing the Small Arms Treaty, his thousands of new regulations? HIs EPA and those rulings against creating a pond on your own property? His Waters of the US rule? His push to destroy the ‘death tax ‘exemption? His obamacare mandate? His taxpayer funding of abortions? His forcing religious entities to fund birth control? Did you like Obama’s Fast and Furious? Benghazi? His push to destroy the 2nd Amendment? His pushing for unlimited immigration and his refusal to prosecute crimes committed by ‘his people.’ Did you like Obama’s supporting BLM and other racists while promoting racial division and calling Trayvon his son? Did you like how he invited the race baiter Sharpton to the White House on over 80 occasions? How about your feelings on how Obama hosted Soros on many occasions as well? How’s about his pushing the Trans pacific partnership? Did you appreciate his destruction of the coal industry? How’s about giving all that money to Iran? How’s about his support of ISIS? How’s about his State Department’s actions in Ukraine? You must have loved how he appointed Hillary as Sec. of State and also how he used the IRS to attack conservatives, Lois Lerner ring any bells? What are your feelings on his using the FBI as his private Stasi?
You focus on Trump like a laser, how he’s failed (while ignoring the actions of the dems and congress and certain federal judges and the ever present media) and ignore Obama’s massive levels of malfeasance while you conveniently ignore how Trump undid a huge amount of Obama’s bullshit.
MGM, I know for a fact Flea didn’t like any of it. I’ve read his commentary for years along with many others. His point is that, because of everything you mentioned, we were *this* close to revolution. Those same instigators (Soetoro, Hillary, et al) are all still free, some within a stone’s throw of the White House, and the MAGA crew is sedated just because they have faith that “their guy” will deliver them from evil.
Everything going on right here, right now can be laid at the feet of Soetoro. He is a masterful community organizer who puts into motion everything the .1% want, and packages it as what his constituency needs. I don’t know how he does it. He’s one hell of a politician, sick and twisted and charismatic.
Trump really believed he could make America great again from within the current system. It sounded great. I actually believed it, too. But it was also childish and made for Madison Ave. sandwich boards. I thought Hillary would be in handcuffs and Epstein would bring the house down. Oh well, fuck me in the ass two times.
The whole Q show? It’s a personal vendetta and has nothing to do with the rule of law because there is no rule of law left. Look at the messaging.
“PAIN”.
“These people are stupid.”
“No one escapes.”
Images of the Punisher.
It’s direct to the limbic system. People were mad as Hell and about to not take it anymore. In comes Trump and Q, ready to sedate the masses with what they honestly think could happen, but is obviously total bullshit when working from within such a corrupt system.
We’re all to blame for voting for this guy. Go look at the last 22 years of Western Rome, from 455-476. Study it. That’s where we are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_emperors
You just said it yourself, ‘when working from such a corrupt system.’ And that is my entire point. The Trump bashers seem to thing Trump is a king, that he has the powers of a king, and…..he doesn’t. He can’t initiate legislation, he doesn’t control the purse strings, his executive orders are subject to scrutiny and can be nullified by a federal judge. What you all think Trump should do is actually within the realm of Congress, the legislative, and not the Executive. Trump has had the democrats, the media, most of the judicial against him from the get go.
Here’s a reminder of the powers and not powers of the Executive branch….
The Constitution explicitly assigns the president the power to sign or veto legislation, command the armed forces, ask for the written opinion of their Cabinet, convene or adjourn Congress, grant reprieves and pardons, and receive ambassadors. The president shall take care that the laws are faithfully executed and
the president has the power to appoint and remove executive officers. The president may make treaties, which need to be ratified by two-thirds of the Senate, and is accorded those foreign-affairs functions not otherwise granted to Congress or shared with the Senate. Thus, the president can control the formation and communication of foreign policy and can direct the nation’s diplomatic corps. The president may also appoint Article III judges and some officers with the advice and consent of the U.S. Senate. In the condition of a Senate recess, the president may make a temporary appointment.
No where does it say the President can write laws or create legislation. Guess you all are also not paying attention to all the scandals created by the DNC, the Dems, the FBI and their minions, the innumerable Russia did it’s, the kangaroo courts, the squalling baboons like Maxine Waters and the open war on and against Trump?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_of_the_president_of_the_United_States
MGM, what do you not understand about this? The Constitution died its final death on 9/11. I warned everyone about this over and over and over again. An abrogated contract is no longer a valid contract. The last hope for a peaceful resolution was a Con-Con. That will never happen now.
Every decision to expand the size and scope of govt. since 9/11 has paved the way for the next tyrant to double down.
The only way to stop it? I saw one of two ways in 2016. Sacrifice self and “suspend the Constitution” once the evil was fully understood (assuming he actually hired decent fucking advisers!), or call for a Con-Con, knowing the system was irrevocably broken. Article V would give cover under the Constitution and if he was truly a Deal Maker, it should have been achievable.
I think he wanted to be the next Abe Lincoln. He didn’t have the chops. Say what one wants about Lincoln, he was willing to go balls to the wall and he knew how the system worked.
I agree with almost everything you have said here except the Con-Con. I think it would be a disaster. The constitution is obviously a dead letter, null and void. But going in and editing it would only make it worse – its protections that are largely ignored would be watered down evern further and recodified into law, and we’d be hearing ‘you wanted a Con-con, you got one, this is how it works, etc. I just don’t think there are enough people to actually make thi any better absent conflict. Letting those people monkey with the laws evne more than they already do would be, in my opnion, counter productive.
We needed one every 20 years. That’s why we are where we are today. I wouldn’t have been concerned with the high bar for wacky amendments being reached.
Living in the past and not using the methods the Framers gave us to change the Constitution is why we have Congress passing whatever the fuck they want. They call it a living document but what they really mean is that it’s too hard to change it through the proper channels. And since the average American doesn’t even know what a Con-Con is, they believe it.
Who passed the bump stock ban, who passed red flag laws. who is bombing millions of starving Yemenis and Carpet bombing somalians(You don’t know that one do you). Who is letting more illegals in than Obummer. And those hardcore Zionist Judges he’s appointing are not our friends.
I could go on but you are a waste of time because you always resort to vile sliming like a commie because you know you’ve been Nine Elevened by trump with a small t.
Go ahead and have the last word.
Again you conflate the executive with the legislative. Trump doesn’t write laws. No president does. Immigration? Here is his statement regarding illegal immigration…
Trump mocked Democrats for insisting that his administration let migrants and illegal immigrants in, rather than deporting them.
“They’re always saying they have open arms,” he said. “Let’s see if they have open arms.”
Trump said the “horrible old fashioned laws” made it impossible to detain illegals longer than 20 days, adding that the current asylum laws were “absolutely insane.”
The president specifically referred to the Governor of California, who welcomed more refugees and illegals.
“California, the governor wants to have a lot of people coming in, refugees coming in. A lot of sanctuary cities,” he said. “So we’ll give them to the sanctuary cities, maybe, to take care of, if that’s the way they want it.”
The states are the ones with the red flag laws, not the feds. As to the claim that he passed ‘red flag laws’ here is what happened….
But Trump’s leadership of the GOP is what’s most important in the Republican Senate. And he is splashing the latest gun safety push with cold water as the Senate prepares to come back into session in early September.
</emOn Tuesday the president reiterated that the existing background check system is muscular, telling reporters that "we have very, very strong background checks right now." Asked if he supports the House-passed legislation, he replied: “I’m not going to get into that.”
I don’t defend his actions in Yemeni or Somalia or any other countries. No right thinking person can defend what passes as American foreign policy. As to the Zionist judges, time will tell but they hopefully aren’t as bad as Sullivan. Bump stocks were a sop coming on the heels of the Vegas massacre.
Your turn…
This is one of the funniest and predictable comment sections I’ve ever read. I don’t always agree with Zman, but he nailed it here. Look at this MyGirl down there. She fits what he is talking about to a T. These people are just about hopeless. Criticize Trump, you must love Obama or clinton. Its hilarious, but also pathetic.
It sucks when they are people close to you, too. Ono one of my best friends is one. My dad is pretty close. They love him. And it is almost impossible to bring up why he hasn’t done shit without getting ‘better than clinton’, as though thats high praise.
Gator: It’s also totally predictable that someone like you would come in and throw your two cents in. You want to suckle on Zman’s anti-Trump bile and pretend that you’re superior and above the fray while at the same time entering it and passing judgments as if you and only you, were the arbiter of facts.
The world is full of know-it-alls like you who demand perfection and can arm-chair quarterback endlessly without having a clue beyond your limited existence.
What’s really interesting, fascinating even, is how you, personally, can avoid comparing Trump to his predecessors. Evidently, according to you, Trump is the first and only president, he’s the alpha and the omega, and what he presides over was created out of thin air and has no relationship to or is affected by anything that came before Trump. Trump and only Trump, no Clinton or Obama or Bush existed and they never shaped or created situations that have any bearing on events happening today.
Zman confirms your bias so of course he’s omnipotent, I’d accuse you of cognitive dissonance except the cognition is lacking. Maybe you should think about how those close to you have to suffer from your closed minded arrogance.
Z Man – which really should read ‘Z Soyboy’, but I digress – has penned a remarkably nasty, insulting screed. This is typical and ever so tiresome Leftie behavior, which is to ignore all facts and instead attack, attack and then personally attack some more. We are used to it, Z Soyboy. We are inured to it. I am not going to defend President Trump here because Z Soyboy would never listen anyway. Remember, the Roman Senators were arguing about the sexual orientation of angels while the invading hordes sacked the city. Z Soyboy would be happy to surround him/herself with idiots like that.
Meanwhile, today, and right now, we are experiencing very dangerous divisions in our nation. Innocent people are being attacked and beaten by masked friends of Z Soyboy. Sixty NYC cops have been hospitalized, just for example. We have small business owners like the weeping sports bar owner in Minneapolis whose life and investments has been shattered by looters.
And now, just when we need some decency, some courage and above all, some unity as caring Americans, we have to put up the likes of YOU, Z Soyboy. Go find yourself a deep hole and bury yourself in it. The rest of us have work to do picking up the pieces of our looted and defaced communities.
If you think any self-respecting, intelligent, industrious, politically cynical American is going to unite with the fucking Anglophiles running this country or any of their voters, then you have surely gone mad.
NYC can burn to the ground and the world will be a better place for it. They’ve done far more looting than a bunch of inner-city hoods and if truth be told, Wall Street destroyed this nation through their lucrative (for them) primary dealerships and UST purchases.
+1000 AOC
Sue:
Excellent comment. Evidently the downvoters LIKE what’s currently happening in this country or else they are deeply attached to the Zman’s bullshit and don’t care about the consequences of his throwing gasoline on already burning buildings. Shouldn’t all those downvoters be reading Huff Po?
I have never lived in a democracy, so would not know how it feels. My guess is, I would not like it as the majority would lord over the minority and I am not a majority type guy. I see how SanFranNan runs the House and it is not something I would want to see in our country.
I’d like to give ancient Greek democracy a shot. One vote per household. We don’t need to disaffect women and minorities, and we can more closely protect against voter fraud with an address search and verification. Shit, it may even help mitigate Tennessee being overrun by all these new HOAs if they don’t show up in the register. New HOA? So sorry! 🙂
Details would need to be worked out but that would be a good start.
I would prefer one vote per each tax payer. Why let the moochers decide who is in office.
Because my solution, while not perfect, has historically worked and doesn’t alienate an entire swath of America. I hear what you’re saying, totally. The problem is that there’s a reason this country votes on feelz. Both sides. Too many women and emasculated men voting. Also too many takers, true enough.
But while your solution solves taker vs. maker, it only solves it for a few years until the disenfranchised 57% of the populace revolts. Better, perhaps, is to start at your position, let the Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, etc. recipients get really pissed, and “compromise” back to one vote per household.
Something else to consider: Why are there too many takers? Refer to who is currently voting, mentioned above. I’d also like to get rid of the middle men (“representatives”), but I haven’t thought through that topic enough.
The moochers are almost, if not already, 50% of the voting age people in the country. What is to stop them from demanding more and more from the few who pay taxes. We must get a handle on the free stuff or we are done as a republic. This current collapse may well do the trick, but it will not be pretty and many of us will not live to see what comes next.
What’s stopped the moochers today? Nothing. You can’t tie voting to land ownership and you don’t want to tie it to taxation unless you want to live with Marxist taxation on production (income, property) forever. And everyone pays consumption taxes already. Furthermore, there shouldn’t be public housing and welfare galore. It’s ridiculous.
In your last sentence, replace “may well” with “will”. There will be a culling and it will be indiscriminate. Like years of pesticide use, there is a price to be paid before the land becomes fertile again. Makes no bones about it, good and bad people alike will suffer and die. It’s not to be feared if one is Christian. I don’t think most people even on this site appreciate where we are really and truly headed. We have a confluence of events: GSM, supply chain disruptions, a now permanently unemployed class, a dying dollar, and a nascent insurrection which is less about George Floyd and more about both Marxists and pissed off unemployed. And we’re just talking 2020.
Any of the things you guys list would work just fine. One per household. One per tax payer. Can’t vote if you are on the dole. Can’t vote if you weren’t born here. Literacy test. Any of those things would preclude a democrat from ever taking office
Can’t vote if you receive govt funding of any type. Ie public servants, etc.
There are more details to be sure. (E.g. Public housing should not exist.) But cap it at one per household.
AOC.
At least we’re finally discussing what to replace this mess with.
Thanks for defending me last night. I had to drop out before I dropped out. Can’t keep that up like the old days, Right Llpoh?
Why doesn’t Trump seek support for the following legislation: Any protester caught damaging property will be denied welfare for the rest of their lives.
It could be called the Taxpayer Defense Bill.
Wouldn’t it fun to watch the Democrats squirm prior to shooting that bill down in the house?
Sure, it would still be like Nero fiddling but entertaining nevertheless
hey, you just did what the zman said you would do.
Who introduced the legislation you speak of?
You do know that the President does not introduce legislation, but either vetoes it or not.
Maybe if you got elected to the House or Senate, you could introduce your bill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFroMQlKiag
Umm, you do know that none of those ‘processes,’ etc. taught in SHR are actually followed. Those were the 70’s.
Umm, It’s been the process for more than 200 years.
No, my silly naive friend. Bills are written by lobbyist who write them for Oligarchs and Plutocrats. They can introduce them in the Senate or House, because fuck the rules they just add another step. Legislatures do not read them. They vote based on the calculations of leadership that are based on graft and political expediency.
That is how it works.
Lobbyists write all of the bills and the hard working taxpayers don’t have much of a lobbying group, but the moochers have lots of them.
Hey dumbfuck what is it about Trump seeking support that you don’t understand? Legislation your fat ass. Burn it down Joe.
Where’s Uncola? I really want to see his summation of all this crap.
Soon, EC. Soon. And, as always, some may enjoy the offering, others may find it lacking, and still others may question its efficacy towards stemming the seemingly inexorable tide.
When did they ever care if ghettos burn? When that happens in the burbs with $800,000 homes going up in smoke, then we will get riled up and DT will look like a traitor. So will the military.
Ghettos are marked for destruction, they are worn out ghettos.
Yep, free demolition.
Burn the rats out of their hiding places.
Flowers and beauty will spring up and replace the former blight.
Just like Japan after we firebombed it with napalm clusterbombs and told everybody it was nukes that did the job.
22- The elite developers have the plans drawn up for the soon to be pricey developement that they paid 10 cents on the dollar for the land in a burned out shite ghetto. Works for them every time, no big surprise here.
those pricey stores are not ghetto’s. they are traveling out of the projects to get to the areas they are burning. No slives live in those upscale areas.
I cannot understand why anyone is surprised at anything Trump does. He is a reality TV star and is behaving exactly like one.
The problem has been all along the utter and complete lack of support from Congress. Their black souls prevent them from assisting a man duly elected to the office.
He really does not care at all about the “way things are done around here”. He is not a politician. He doesn’t play politics, so he says exactly what is in his brain, unfiltered. His new choice for press secretary seems to be a good move, she is kind of the decoder ring for him.
Someone told him to go stand in front of a church and hold a bible, so he did. He is not religious, so the act held no special meaning for him, but he probably hoped it would mean something to someone.
I personally don’t think he has bad intentions. But he just cannot see the forest because of the trees. It is simply a miracle he has gotten this far without some kind of catastrophe, not of his making, but just in general.
So now the catastrophe has been orchestrated for him, and the fall out is happening.
The law of unintended consequences comes in to play…yet again…
Criminals will continue to commit crimes, and if they have the cover of “peaceful protests” to do it, all the better. Criminals are, by nature, opportunists. I don’t think the full extent of what has been stolen, um, I mean…looted…will be known.
Useful idiots will continue to be idiots. They are by their very nature easily manipulated as they tend to be educated in ridiculous philosophies, have not enough testosterone, and too many piercings, and or some kind of gender confusion problem. They have convictions that change with the wind, dictated by the mighty Tech Messiahs and their ilk. Their never ending professional victimhood makes them the perfect rubes.
And the woebegone middle class flyover folks, and the rest of us hunkered down on the East and West Coasts just trying to eke out some sanity amongst the rabid hounds, see the folly but know the devil we know is far better than the deviled egg hiding out in his basement in a bathrobe waxing poetic about Corn Pop and record players. His hair sniffing and groping makes us all remember that “uncle” at Thanksgiving.
We still feel like we almost got hit by a car in the form of Felonia Milhous Von Pantsuit. Our hearts were beating out of our chest yet we are still alive, maybe grazed a little, but not mortally wounded.
The overt, crazy, lying machinations by Adam “Thyroid Eyes” Schiff and his merry band of morons has been a spectacle. How anyone can look into his sweaty, pasty face and take anything he says seriously is beyond comprehension. Watching Nancy Pelosi’s denture cream fail on a daily basis is like looking at a house fire. Terrible to behold, yet you cannot look away. We with humanity actually may feel embarrassed for this woman, who obviously was a looker in her her day but now resembles Jerky Link with eyes.
The whole lot of them stand in their power suits, some with pants up to their armpits, actually believing the things coming out of their mouths should be taken as gospel. I guess maybe they figured it’s whoever lives the longest wins.
I believe that is Adam “Meth Eyes” Schiff, you were trying to identify, him, and Ed Buck, a video cam, a pile of white powder, and a bunch of gay porn snuff film actors, only they ain’t acting.
“There is a fine line between rubbing yourself with lotion and rubbing lotion on yourself” ~ John Pinnette.
Schiff falls squarely into the first category, he is creepy beyond words and either is on way, way too much Adderall or he indeed partakes of a certain Miami Condiment. Anyone that looks like that is mentally ill (and he does show some signs of paranoia), on drugs, or on not enough drugs.
The people at the top are usually the ones with the most to hide. From Larry”Wide Stance”Craig to Anthony “tighty whitey” Wiener, there is something seriously fucked up with these people.
I mean seriously, how many times do we have to see police body cam footage of naked politicians high out of their minds before people understand that these idiots are mental defectives?
Watching Nancy Pelosi’s denture cream fail on a daily basis is like looking at a house fire. Terrible to behold, yet you cannot look away.
Boy howdy, that’s a good one…keep them coming, they’re good.
Oh boy, another Trump hit piece…
I wonder where we would be if Hillary had won ?
I wear the down votes as a badge of honer.
Shouldn’t you lefties be out rioting ?
Are you a jej, yer honer?
Not lefties and not people whould vote for Killary. We are just people smart enough to see Trump is a fraud.
Let me help you out. If Hill had wone we would be in the midst of a communist revolution right now. Thaank goodnes TPTB saved us and selected Trump.
Please, had the beast won you wouldn’t know what hit you. The shit that’s happening now wouldn’t need to happen because the communist manifesto would be enacted already and you’d be standing in line hoping the store had hog anus on the menu.
People eat hog anus everyday across this country sold to them as being calamari. They don’t know the difference and can’t get enough of it….so there’s that. (true)
Nice fantasy. We were one raw nerve from open revolt when it looked like she would be appointed President. Donny sedated the right long enough to lay the groundwork for this coup.
Astute point.
Whut? Did you read what you just wrote? A coup that’s attacking Trump but somehow he’s doing it? Please. Pretzel logic at it’s finest.
Not what he’s saying. I’ve thought about this and it makes a lot of sense. See my post above. Middle America was on the verge of flipping its shit due to PPACA, 2A, Emailgate, etc. How do you quell a nascent rebellion?
Since no one else is saying it, I will.
This is an excellent article that is spot on. I am no longer surprised that Trump fans (fanatics) have an adversarial relationship with truth and facts. I don’t think anyone can be onboard with supporting any of the corrupt establishment and party system without a very unhealthy dose of delusion.
You sound like a rube or a noob.
If you think this is an excellent article then you should go join the white folk debasing themselves by decrying their white privilege. You think Trump is bad? Why aren’t you out supporting the man who loves having children rub his leg hairs? You can support a puerile soyboi trashing Trump while ignoring one of the more vile ‘candidates’ a man who likes it when children rub his leg hair, right?
He said they’re all schmucks not just Trump. It would be worse if Hillary had won for certain because then we would have a bolshevik revolution and we would be lockdown in our homes and need a pass to go to work. In addition we would have shortages and long lines and conservative sites would be shut down like crazy. I’m sure glad the Bankers in charge appointed Trump so we can be free.
He said not such thing. Had Hillary been elected there would be no need for a revolution. It would be a fait accompli. What part of what is now happening is happening because she DIDN’T win escape your attention? Damn, and here I thought you were intelligent. None of what is currently happening would happen with Hillary, they need to destroy Trump so they’ve pulled out all the stops. Hillary IS the swamp, no need to get rid of her when she embodies the power structure.
Yes I did. It was implicit in what I wrote, if you have half a brain. Fleabaggs did capture my point.
Anyone supporting the corrupt system is delusional (got that clever implication) and yet, in your grandiose implication, you attack Trump supporters specifically, single them out while stating they have no understanding of truth and facts. Your arrogance and self importance apparently doesn’t allow for the fact that perhaps they see the truth and yet they support him because the alternative is untenable and unthinkable. People like you are what allows people like Pelosi et al to get elected. Nihilism isn’t an answer, neither is ennui and feigning intellectual superiority over a group of people whom you deem essentially stupid is far from helpful.
Fuckin aye girl.
Why are you so brainwashed that every position has to be an “either/or”?
Why are you so cowardly that you have to post anonymously?
Anonymously, Ha! As if ‘Mygirl…Maybe’ identifies you in any real sense.
True that. Some see a burning building and are wanting/waiting for it to burn out so rebuilding can start.
Devon Stack’s latest:
I REALLY like the Billy Mumy analogy.
Abraham Lincoln said that you can please some of the people some of the time but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
Calvin Coolidge said that government governs best when it governs least.
Zman criticizes Trumpolini for not governing with an iron fist or expanding the government or launching new wars.
That Trump is not religious is a plus, we already had a born-again war criminal as president. Then we elected a Muslim in sheep’s clothing to the presidency. I think these two clowns totally destroyed the ‘religious’ brand. Trumpolini was elected because he was different; not religious, not a politician, not a warmonger.
You have to keep focus on the source of the problem; career politicos with something to gain, grift from overseas donors. With Bush, we danced to the music of the sheikhs of Saudi Arabia. Hillary promised we’d send more American jobs to China. The Obamas would have us all living next door to a Somali.
They’ll be back come Election Day.
EC – you ignorant slut, it was John Lydgate not Lincoln that said that.
You are welcome.
Love ya, bro man!
Glad to see you posting, EC.
Maybe you can shed a light on this – why so few Hispanics seem to be joining in the festivities? They seem very reserved in all of this. Just the Afros and white chicks and Antifa looks like to me.,
I don’t think Latinos suffer as much from the feelz as white and black women. Latinas in my experience respect men, to the point where you are theirs. Just ask Lorena Leonor Gallo.
John worked at the Red Lobster with (at the time) my best friend’s brother.
“I don’t think Latinos suffer as much from the feelz as white and black women”
Lorena Bobbitt is Ecuadorian, raised in Venezuela. I don’t understand the feelz you are talking about. According to my buddy Ricardo, white women are cold lovers. If you mean as far as anger, Hispanics are emotional but few of them go nuts like Black folks over the death of somebody at the hands of the popo. That is a ghetto mentality in addition to the grievance over slavery.
“Latinas in my experience respect men, to the point where you are theirs.”
Them be Mexican women. Honduran women are of the opinion that a man can have as many women as he can support. Salvadoran women are meaner than Filipina women, hide the knives.
One of the gals at the strip joint said Bobbitt didn’t make it in the porn scene because he had no stamina. This was a chick who claimed to have met famous people at orgies.
Try dating a Cubana or Puerto Rican. The former will fuck you until one of your eyes goes lazy. Amazing in bed, nothing except perhaps Colombian or Eastern European compares. She will also lop your dick off for sideways glances.
Pass.
We see a lot of them on Univision. They get interviews and they sound the same, justice, racism, police, yada yada. But they don’t look like hood rats, they look like middle-class working people. The Blacks look like hood rats. The looters in the ’92 LA riots looked like poor Central Americans.
It’s curious. You never see Blacks demonstrating over the death of a Hispanic or White, yet Whites and Hispanics are ‘cucking’ big time here. One White guy had a sign All Lives Matter, but that is not allowed, they want to keep the focus on BLM.
Despite the involvement of some Hispanics, there are many more who don’t agree with the protests or the destruction. Whoever paid for the vandalism is doing a good job of wrecking the message.
The image on tv is that of hoodlums and looters in the streets. If Obama wants to turn it into another crisis he can solve, Trump can also twist it into a wild in the streets narrative.
chicago,1968
november,1968
EC – you ignorant slut, it was John Lydgate not Lincoln that said that.
I think he probably knew that. I also think he knows about Germany attacking Pearl Harbor.
That’s just his way of correcting somebody, that’s as nice as LLPOH gets.
I’ve seen him somewhat jocular at times…never truly jocular, but a semblance is better than nothing.
Here’s another Lydgate quote:
“You can satisfy some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot satisfy all of the people all the time”
If that quote were applied to women it would seem Cuban women would fit the bill, right?
“You can fool some of the people some of the time and the rest you can jerk off” – Robin Williams
Too bad your goddess didn’t win. But hey, now you can get Sleepy Joe. He’d be a much better puppet than Obummer ever was. Problem will be keeping him from toppling over. Course he might “chose” the fictional Governor of Ga, Abrams and then get turned out via the 25th amendment and VOILA’ the first all black prezzi. I’m sure you would jump for joy. Oh as to President Trump not “giving us” anything, I’ll take his judge nominations to a majority of the legal system as a win. Maybe they can hold off the socialist utopia you desire for awhile.
Joe won’t be the nominee.
Joe won’t be the nominee.
Your lips to God’s ear….
The judges will be his lasting legacy. In 4 more years, he could get 2 or 3 more on SCOTUS and would have 60 – 70% of the appellate court judges. If he wins, I have no doubt the Senate will stay in R hands so McTurtle will be able to get his nominees through.
Neither side will except the election results. I’d be shocked if this country lasted until 2024.
AOC- And some people know that it didn’t matter, both the extreme right and the extreme left are owned by the usual suspect elites so moot point about the whole damn thing.Have you tried hog anus?
Hog anus? I hear it tastes like calamari. Fact.
Look it up miss smarty pants. Seriously, look it up. (true)
Why? You want to eat hog anus who am I to stop you? (not sure but maybe? )
One side always rolls over and accepts the election. The other side only accepts, if they win. They never accepted the victory of Bush II, even though there was never a FL recount that gave Gore the state’s electoral votes.
If Trump wins, what we are seeing now will be seen as the opening battles in CW II.
If Trump loses it will be the same thing. Either through the markets voting for themselves, or through insurrection. As Maggie Thatcher said to Marty Armstrong about the Tories losing to Labour: “It’s just time.”
Zman’s real name is Karen.
LOL at the people here who ***** still ***** think Trump is their guy.
Zman always has a good one liner.
“There’s a good chance he was worried that he may be struck by lightning out there.”
I was kinda hoping that would happen but it appears that God wants one side to continue to be fooled by Trump and the other to be infuriated by him. I guess I missed they party last night. It’s a good thing. I don’t have time to waste trying to convince the “Trump is better than Hillary” people that Zman is almost but not quite spot one.. I’m tired of hearing Trump is better than Hillary as a defense. He attended Chelsea’s wedding. They were friends before 2008. They probably still are friends. Trump said the “Clinton are good people” after the election. Wikileaks was awesome when it helped Trump get elected. When Assange needed his support, “He didn’t know anything about Wikileaks”. I could go on and on if I had time. People hate to admit they have been fooled. We keep saying we won’t get fooled again, and then we do.
That’s why I say that any assistance after SHTF shall be conditioned on taking full, personal responsibility for their gullibility and wrongdoing, and atone for it. It’s OK to be a sinner and/or to make mistakes, over and over. But there comes a time where survival requires viewing the world as it is and not the way one wants it to be.
DAMN – that is good! Right On!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/02/report-karl-rove-advising-trump-on-black-american-outreach-amid-riots/
No worries now, Karl Rove is on the team.
HAHAHAHAHA
Not that anyone on TBP needs reminded, but the calvary ain’t coming folks. They’ve cucked too. Make of it what you will.
Members of the 18th Calvary patrolling Hollywood take a knee with protestors on Sunset Blvd George Floyd
Staged.
That was absolutely staged.
Psyop 101.
Let the enemy believe they’re winning.
Protect and defend is now grovel and whine.
flash.
Bl told me we need to wait for them to save us before we resist ourselves.
Flash.
Did you see the 20 troops in Fayetteville bowing to Antifa. Pukeworthy.
4D chess according to 22 and anon. Trump has indictments on all 420,000 of ’em. Warrants soon to follow.
Um, ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..snort. Wake me when ANYTHING in that direction happen. Q my ass/ sarc.
So Zman, you would much rather have Crooked Hillary for President then, correct???
It’s not a Hillary vs. Trump issue. When – not if – Hillary pulled a Blackface nationally, what do you think would have happened?
Think about what Flea is saying above. Why has the right been so docile?
The right has been cowed and bullied mercilessly. They are racists, white supremacists, haters and so on. Wear a MAGA hat and have the shit kicked out of you. The left is offensive and the right is always defensive. Plus, when you have the media controlling the narrative to the point where they spin murderous rioters and looters as ‘peaceful protesters’ then you begin to realize that no matter what you do you will be shot down.
So they’re whining pussies, too? Well shit, then we really are screwed.
Collectivists in the modern era do very well because they’re willing to break some eggs and no one is there to wave a bigger dick. The bigger dick? Fervent religion.
Christians used to be willing to do the same – to sacrifice for a cause greater than self. Same with Islam. Want things to change? Gotta tell “traditional” Americans that they’re fucking skirts not willing to sacrifice for free will, for liberty, the very essence of God’s gift to Man. That’s what the Revolution was all about. Not a 7% stamp tax.
Voting will never fix a fucked up situation. It elongates it. Drags it out. Once the authoritarian toothpaste is out of the tube, it’s either gonna harden on the bathroom sink or you grumble about the mess your neighbors made as you immediately clean it up.
Well now, what all do you propose we do to achieve those glorious ends? Who goes first? Where to go? How to go? As to sacrificing for a cause greater than self, when I look at the tatooed, fat, phone addicted masses and realize that I’d be sacrificing myself for that ?? Let it burn.
In the Western world, there is an inverse relationship between the power of a government and how Christian its population is. Christendom was founded upon individual liberty and redemption for our shitty choices exercising said liberty. No other religion was or is so dedicated to the fundamental principles of life and liberty. And our nations were primarily comprised of Christians who codified our laws with those precepts in mind. (Not Judeo-Christian, mind you. Christian.)
It therefore follows that the more Christian the society, the more limited the size and scope of government. And vice versa.
What do I suggest to the populace? Stop worshiping men, whether it be Obama or Trump, and take your own liberty into your hands. Knowing this will not happen now, I’d recommend to step completely away from the false left-right paradigm, get your house (and chicken coop) in order, and when SHTF, explain in no uncertain terms the above.
There are consequences for the lazy thinking that led us down this path, and one of them is the temporary loss of liberty to get us back to a position of regeneracy. I for one am not willing to consider a democratic vote with people who are coming to me for aid. I am willing to help, but I am not going to let lazy thinkers fuck me over in matters of life and death.
Well said and I agree….
Because there are whites in the crowd?
President Kushner
Anti Christ Kushner666.
Most of the same boring regulars …. “It was that President 30 yrs ago who was responsible for wrecking the whole country”, or “that President Obummer was a racist who got away with everything”, or “Lincoln ruined my whole life and now I want to back at him”
All of you pretend to have PhD’s in American Civics but from what most of you sound like, it would be hard to believe any of you ever earned a higher degree than a Bachelor’s in Liberal Arts
From Kennedy to Trump, I’ve never seen one President who even came close to having the qualities that are great. And Eisenhower couldn’t even speak a single coherent sentence. That’s when commentators were born whose job was having to give a wrap up of what IKE just said. And you think Joe Bite-Me sounds unintelligible.
This country managed to survive through the worst of the absolute worst Presidents and always will elect new ones who’ll end up being worse than the previous worst.
Everyone has everything to bitch about but most likely none of you do anything about it. For the last 230 years of history and 45 Presidents, this country has never had a President who turned out the way people wanted him to.
SO GET TO WORK TO FIND YOUR PERFECT CANDIDATE WHO MEETS ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS YOU PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE IN A PERFECT PRESIDENT
Belicoso….name seems apt…..
Perfect President:
1) obey Constitution
2) honest
3) big brass ones and does what is right not politically expedient
No, too late for that. Better to short the system and build a farm that can serve one’s community. There are people who vote in this system and there are people who do. I imagine I know where you fall on that.
My advice? Get right with God.