Finally. Proof that precious metals prices have been manipulated…

Guest Post by Simon Black

Some time in the mid 3rd century BC, King Hieron of the ancient Greek city-state of Syracuse (in modern day Sicily) ordered a local goldsmith to forge a new, beautiful, golden crown.

But when Hieron was presented with the crown, it didn’t feel quite right.

The King suspected that the smith had put some of the gold in his pocket, and instead fashioned most of the crown out of lesser metals. But this was just a suspicion. He needed proof.

So he approached the smartest scientist in his kingdom– Archimedes– and asked him to figure out whether or not the crown was actually made of pure gold.

Archimedes pondered the problem for weeks, frustrated that he couldn’t figure out a way to determine the crown’s purity.

And then one day, as the legend goes, Archimedes stepped into a public bath and noticed that the water level rose based on how much of his body was submerged in the tub.

He experimented over and over with this observation, plunging different substances and metals into the water to see how much the water level rose.

Eventually Archimedes was able to determine that different metals have different densities. Gold, for example, has a density of 19.3 grams per cubic centimeter. Copper’s density is less than half of that.

And because they have different densities, the same volume of submerged metals will cause the water levels to rise at different rates.

Based on this principle, Archimedes would be able to determine that the crown was NOT made of pure gold, and that the goldsmith had swindled the king.

According to the ancient Roman scholar Vitruvius, after making this discovery, Archimedes ran completely naked from the bath house out into the streets of Syracuse shouting, “Eureka! Eureaka!” (I have found it!)

History does not tell us what happened to the crooked goldsmith, but we can imagine the king was displeased.

And it certainly wouldn’t be the last time that anyone tried to swindle people when it came to precious metals.

Just a few days ago, in fact, the banking giant JP Morgan was fined nearly $1 billion for illegally manipulating precious metals prices.

It turns out that, for at least six years, several traders at JP Morgan were engaging in ‘spoof trades’ of precious metals. Essentially that means they were booking fake trades for the sole purpose of manipulating gold and silver prices to their advantage.

A lot of investors knew this was happening. As early as 2011, small traders began complaining about spoofing. I first heard about it in 2013 when Jim Rickards told me about it.

At the time, most mainstream media dismissed the notion as a wild conspiracy theory.

In 2016, the CEO of a major silver miner told me about it… that traders had been illegally holding silver prices down. He had a mountain of evidence to back up his claims, and he specifically mentioned JP Morgan as one of the culprits.

But he couldn’t get anyone to take him seriously.

I found this absurd. Is it really so hard to believe that a major financial institution would engage in illegal activity to make a profit?

Banks are in the news practically every month for some major scandal which usually involves defrauding and stealing from their customers. Why should this be any different?

Well, now it’s not some laughable conspiracy theory anymore.

It’s true. There’s proof. And it’s been made public: JP Morgan engaged in illegal price manipulation, and they’ve been hit with a stiff fine by the Department of Justice.

(I expect there will probably be more stories like this– other banks that engaged in illegal activity to manipulate gold and silver prices.)

If these guys hadn’t been spoofing trades for so many years, it’s likely that gold and silver prices could have been a lot higher. And plenty of investors might have missed out on short-term gains as a result.

Longer-term, though, these banks don’t matter. JP Morgan can try to manipulate and suppress prices all they want.

But as long as central bankers continue conjuring trillions of dollars out of thin air;

as long as governments rack up trillions in debt and spend the next generation into bankruptcy;

as long as hapless politicians play whack-a-mole with a virus and keep shutting their economies down;

as long as there’s chaos and stupidity in the world . . .

gold will continue to hold its value, in the same way that it has for more than 5,000 years of human history.

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26 Comments
overthecliff
overthecliff
October 2, 2020 10:06 am

Fines but no prison. HO Hum, in other news. Nothing will change until the crooked politicians and their banker friends spend a few years in close quarters with the Crips and Bloods.

Sonic
Sonic
October 2, 2020 10:29 am

Dear Lord, the financial part may be right, but the physics part is hurting my soul (I identify as an Engineer). So long as you drop any non dissoluble solid object into water that has a density higher than water it will sink and be covered by the water. The water in the tub will then rise according to volume displaced. The rate of rise could be used to calculate the density if the viscosity of the water was known. With a known viscosity the rise could then be used to calculate the density of the material if the shape of the object and the container of fluid was also standardized and calibrated. I say all that as an aside to say it isn’t technically impossible to calculate a rough density this way, but it would be super hard and it is definitely NOT how Archimedes went about it.

Archimedes struggled with the idea of calculating the volume of an irregularly shaped object. It is not hard to calculate the volume of a cube or a sphere with high accuracy, but something shaped like a rough bolder or a bicycle or a human body not so much. When he stepped into the pool and observed the water level rise he realized that it is very easy to measure the volume of water because it can be poured into a container that is easy to measure. He already knew the weight of the crown, and when he realized that he could easily calculate the volume of the crown by displacing it in water he knew he could tell very easily if the crown was made of gold because he knew how much gold weighs per unit of volume.

I know no one here besides gives the first fuck about this, but I just could not let it pass uncorrected. Besides, after the epic shit show we call our current civilization passes onto the next phase, we may need to know how not to get swindled by the tinker that visits our village once a season. Just sayin’.

Just a Medic
Just a Medic
  Sonic
October 2, 2020 10:43 am

Minus one point to Simon Black for sowing disinformation. Elementary physics like this should be known to all high school graduates in the realm.

AT
AT
  Sonic
October 2, 2020 10:57 am

Thank you. I read that in the article, and was thinking, “this just ain’t right…”

Ken31
Ken31
  Sonic
October 2, 2020 12:43 pm

That bothered me too.

doc
doc
  Sonic
October 2, 2020 8:11 pm

Beat me to it as well. I stopped reading as soon as I saw the statement:

“And because they have different densities, the same volume of submerged metals will cause the water levels to rise at different rates.”

I had to see if anyone else caught the absurdity. Displacement is purely a function of volume. It is apparent the author has no grasp of the principles he is attempting to use to lecture others. Sorry Simon, but from now on I will skip over any article with your name attached.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Sonic
October 2, 2020 11:11 pm

The (((tinker))) that visits…FIFY

Richo
Richo
October 2, 2020 10:36 am

Actually, this explanation of Archimedes Principle is somewhat misleading. The same volume of submerged metals will not cause the water levels to rise at different rates. It is the same weight (different volumes) that will cause the water levels to rise at different rates.

Determining the density of the crown is what determines if it was made of pure gold or not. To determine density, you need two measurements, the weight (which is easy to do) and its volume (which on an uneven volume is hard to do). Archimedes discovered an easy way to determine the volume of an uneven solid, by submerging it in water, and measuring the height that it raised that water. Weight divided by volume gives density, which can be compared to the known density of gold and other minerals to determine purity.

Capn Mike
Capn Mike
  Richo
October 2, 2020 6:31 pm

Which is why my boat size (weight) is measured by DISPLACEMENT.

Scot
Scot
October 2, 2020 10:55 am

Who is the recipient of that fine? Surely not those who own precious metals who have been robbed by these people manipulating its value.
Most likely, it will go to the government and much of it will be doled out to leftist organizations since much of 0bama’s schemes to funnel fines to leftist groups are still in place.

Steve
Steve
October 2, 2020 11:06 am

A big fine, big deal. They probably made greater than $5 Billion from the scam. The investors pay the fine and nobody goes to jail.
Ouch, they’ll never do that again. S-A-R-C

Panzerlied
Panzerlied
October 2, 2020 11:28 am

10 to 1 that the crooked goldsmith was a Jew, just like his descendants, Goldberg, Goldfein, Goldstein, etc. A leopard can’t change its spots, anymore than the devil’s kids can change their inherent lust of hyper-materialism. Hey, it’s all they have. No afterlife, no salvation, nothing but a black, lifeless void,or eternal torment in the lake of fire, after they complete their life long ambition of robbing the goyim and making life generally miserable for all who have unfortunately fallen for their lies.
Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws — Mayer Amschel Rothschild
We committed national suicide when the money changers were allowed to enter the national treasury. These are the descendants of the same brood of vipers who were cheating the goyim then when Christ grabbed a whip and chased them from the temple.
The fatal flaws in most Christians is that they are too trusting and extremely slow learners. Trust a snake and don’t be surprised when you are bitten.
Now that their poisonous venom is having the desired effect, while the nation is succumbing to their vile plan and is in its death throes, we lament that things are no longer the same and some less astute are even aghast and wonder what is happening to their way of life.
Well, what did you expect?
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.” -Thomas Jefferson. And in our case, the watchmen on the wall fell asleep.
The next alarming sound you hear may be that of an ominous thundering crash of a huge, all-encompassing iron curtain falling down around the formerly free Republic of America, forever sealing our fate.
Imagine, if you will, an iron boot in your face – forever. We did it to ourselves. Think I’m kidding?

If one needed any further evidence of Twitter’s far-left corporate culture, look no further than former CEO Dick Costolo – who went full Bolshevik in a Thursday Twitter rant warning that “me-first capitalists” who don’t agree with injecting political activism into the workplace will be “the first people lined up against the wall and shot in the revolution,” adding “I’ll happily provide video commentary.” – That’s their plans, give that some serious thought.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Panzerlied
October 2, 2020 11:14 pm

Please ? up vote at least 6 million gazillion times.
Oh Vey!!!

Steve
Steve
  Saxons Wrath
October 2, 2020 11:46 pm

Agreed, Panz should have 100+up votes.

ishmael
ishmael
  Panzerlied
October 4, 2020 9:27 pm

On the subject of fake gold objects, there have been a number of cases of “fake” gold bars turning up/ being sold at big name precious metals dealers.

One case was a gold bar purchased in Toronto, ON. The purchaser was a local Asian goldsmith, who proceeded to cut into the bar, only to find it was mostly Tungsten. There was a picture of the gold coating peeled back. He had to threaten major publicity to get the bank-associated dealer to make good on it.

If memory serves, I saw the story on ZeroHedge.

I mention Tungsten, as it has a density close to gold, so it would be harder, but not impossible, to spot via the method described in the story. Non-destructive testing is hard. (Think numismatic-grade coins here.)

In a related article(Is there any gold in Ft. Knox?), it was mentioned in passing that some of the major US banks were BIG purchasers of tungsten….

I regret I do not have links to any of this at my fingertips.

ishmael
ishmael
  Panzerlied
October 4, 2020 9:48 pm

Here ’tis. (see post below; out of order)

According to the Canadian press, the one-ounce gold piece, which was supposed to be 99.99% pure, was purchased by an Ottawa jeweller on Oct. 18 at a Royal Bank of Canada branch. The problem emerged when tests of the bar showed it may contain no gold at all. And, when neither the mint nor RBC would take the bar back, jeweler Samuel Tang contacted CBC news.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-30/could-be-huge-gold-bar-certified-royal-canadian-mint-exposed-fake

Also: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/83-tons-fake-gold-bars-gold-market-rocked-massive-china-counterfeiting-scandal

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
October 2, 2020 12:54 pm

The current cost vs benefit ratio favors illegal behavior. This will not stop until these bankers go to real jail for many years. Let’s not act surprised.

Panzerlied
Panzerlied
  Crawfisher
October 2, 2020 2:01 pm

The owners of the casino rarely, if ever, are reprimanded or even scolded for cheating the hapless goy of his hard earned cash. They own the casino, the gaming tables, the entertainment, the chips, the sycophant obsequious employees, the whole enchilada not even to mention the printing press that makes the whole charade possible.
The U.S. hit the skids after 1871 by declaring bankruptcy and allowing “anonymous” owners to form a corporation that excluded ownership to the American people, but put them on the hook for any indebtedness incurred. That can be termed a doublefuck. Something they are not only very adept, but revel in delight when they can mass ass rape an entire nation. Good luck, Skippy, and good night.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Panzerlied
October 2, 2020 11:17 pm

Anudder 6million gazillion upvotes…

ranch hand
ranch hand
October 2, 2020 3:01 pm

Govt gets the money, little people get the shaft. Rinse, repeat.

doc
doc
  ranch hand
October 2, 2020 8:52 pm

Not quite. The government borrows from the privately owned Fed and uses that loan to “back” the currency it prints. The government has to pay back that loan to the Banksters plus the interest on that loan. The interest was never printed, so how is it possible to pay it back? It isn’t possible! The parasites have already siphoned ALL of the wealth of the nation. The ONLY reason they haven’t pulled the plug on the fantasy of prosperity is because they haven’t yet managed to overturn the Second Article and Amendment. They also have to dismantle the police. (Notice a trend here?) That’s why this election is for all of the marbles. The final act of destruction is the total enslavement of the population. The want it ALL – including owning the people. They can’t allow the financial system to collapse if the populace is armed because they know that the population would come for them – and not with torches and pitchforks, either.

Gguy767
Gguy767
January 11, 2021 8:17 pm

I was talking to a family member of mine and we were discussing this then I found this…. its obvious there is a manipulation going on!!!!