I grew up on a Rust Belt street in a Rust Belt city: Colgate Avenue in Cleveland, Ohio. The street had an alley. It had working-class kids born to working-class parents. Life on the street wasn’t idyllic. But that’s not how life is, particularly in Cleveland. The city can be exceptional in its realism. “America has only three cities: New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans,” said playwright Tennessee Williams. “Everywhere else is Cleveland.”
I remember my neighbor’s house, green with aluminum siding. The Mills family lived there. Mr. Mills, a Kenny Rogers lookalike, came up from West Virginia for a job in the mills. But by the mid-1980s the family left, moving to the bungalowed-suburb of Middleburgh Hts. Their American Dream was Cleveland’s American nightmare. By 1990, the city’s population declined by nearly 40% from its peak. The loss was due to folks like the Mills leaving, coupled with a growing absence of people moving in.
The lack of people arriving couldn’t be blamed on an unaccustomedness with Cleveland. Throughout its history, the city never lacked for press, both the shaming kind and the lauding kind. But it was the shame that stuck. And it’s the shame that persists.
Cleveland’s shiniest badge of dishonor came from a 1969 piece in Time magazine called “America’s Sewage System and the Price of Optimism”. “Almost every great city has a river,” it began. “The poetic notion is that flowing water brings commerce, delights the eye, and cools the summer heat. But there is a more prosaic reason for the close affinity of cities and rivers. They serve as convenient, free sewers.”
The story would go on to highlight a small fire a few months prior on Cleveland’s Cuyahoga River. “[The Cuyahoga] oozes rather than flows” the piece read. A photo was shown of firefighters using water to put out water on fire. And while the picture Time used was not even from the fire in 1969 — the one shown was from a fire on the Cuyahoga back in 1952 — it was the optics that mattered, the visual conveying that Cleveland was a place that commits unholy acts. The sin was immortalized by singer Randy Newman in his 1972 classic “Burn On”. In it, he wrote:
“Now the Lord can make you tumble;
And the Lord can make you turn;
And the Lord can make you overflow;
But the Lord can’t make you burn.”
Yet the assignment of shame onto Cleveland went beyond the fact water wasn’t made to catch fire. Fires were common on the Cuyahoga throughout the early 20th century, like the 1952 fire pictorialized in the Time piece. But the previous fires failed to capture the public’s imagination. That’s because Cleveland circa 1952 was peak Cleveland — peak industry, peak population, and peak civic pride. It was the 7th largest city in the nation. Its public campaign was that of “the best location in the nation”, and it was absorbed with plausibility. Then, Cleveland was simply known as a city that made things. That exported things. Where men worked, factories hummed, and where the bacon was brought. All this making made the region richer, with the relatively “benign” byproduct being the factory waste that was let outside to burn. The river fires during peak Cleveland were not unnatural as such, rather the “price of optimism”, so notes the Time piece.
Optimism was a legitimate outlook for the region before it wasn’t. The area bounded by Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh was the nerve center for steel production and metal refinement, with Pittsburgh producing the bulk of the nation’s steel and Detroit making most of the nation’s cars. Cleveland was an industrial hybrid of sorts, in the orbit of the “Steel City” and the “Motor City”. Simply, the Industrial Midwest mattered, and this was never more the case than in the lead up to World War II.
On December 29th,, 1940, President Roosevelt delivered a fireside chat on national defense called “The Great Arsenal of Democracy”. Roosevelt borrowed the term “arsenal of democracy” from General Motors’ CEO Bill Knudsen, who had been called on by the President that May to discuss whether or not the nation’s manufacturing sectors could be retooled to make guns, planes, bullets, and tanks.
“This is not a fireside chat on war,” Roosevelt began. “It is a talk on national security; because the nub of the whole purpose of your President is to keep you now, and your children later, and your grandchildren much later, out of a last-ditch war for the preservation of American independence, and all of the things that American independence means to you and to me and to ours.” Roosevelt would go on to explain that the “American industrial genius, unmatched throughout all the world in the solution of production problems” has been called into action, and that the cooperation between the government, industry, and labor was paramount in his belief that the Axis powers were “not going to win this war”.
The subsequent output from the “arsenal of democracy” was staggering. By December 1941, American war production exceeded that of the entire Axis. A year later the nation’s factories were out-producing Great Britain, Germany, and the Soviet Union combined. The output of Ford Motor Corporation alone would exceed that of Mussolini’s Italy. Cleveland, too, was doing its part, producing a quarter of the nation’s airplane parts. Local firms pivoted in innovated ways: Sherwin-Williams went from paint to bombshells — Apex Electrical Manufacturing from vacuum cleaners to machine gun mounts — Bishop and Babcock Manufacturing Company from beer coolers to artillery shells — The Ferro Corporation from porcelain to thermite.
Cleveland’s collective effort was far-reaching, and the city was mindful of its impact. “Regardless of whether he’s in a bed in the barracks,” boasts a wartime columnist, “in a shelter tent or hammock; in a mess hall, hospital or sick bay; in a front-line machine-gun nest or fox-hole; cooped in a clattering tank or in a fighting aircraft or at a man-o-war battle station, it’s a safe bet that there’s a piece of Cleveland-produced business ready at hand or nearby.”
This reach would remain after the war, particularly during that period from 1945 to 1960 known as the “Golden Age of Capitalism”. With Europe in ruin, it was a period in which American hegemony was built, constructed off the backs of a growing middle class. Economists note it as a time of unparalleled consumerism. People who didn’t have their own cars, homes, and washing machines before the war had them after. It was textbook consumer-side economics: Pay the unionized worker enough to buy what companies produce, the firms get the profits and hire more workers. Notably, it was the geographies of goods production that won the day. Metropolitan Detroit had the nation’s highest per capita income in 1960, with Cleveland close behind.
But life comes at you fast. By 1969 Detroit had the 10th largest per capita income in the nation, with Cleveland 11th. San Francisco was first. The regional fall would only continue.
Peak Cleveland had peaked.
“The city was worn out and feeble,” observed a writer for the Saturday Evening Post in 1967. “Its hands shook.” The popular bumper sticker at the time read cryptically, “Pray for Cleveland”. This abrupt turn from civic pride to civic pain was palpable, an airiness perhaps best channeled by a young Cleveland poet named D.A. Levy who “carried Cleveland around in his shirt pocket like some small clawed animal.” Levy’s words stripped away any illusion of a Cleveland supremacy, with one verse reading:
Cleveland, i gave you
the poems that no one ever
wrote about you
and you gave me
NOTHING
The price of optimism had given way to the cost of realism. 1952 Cleveland wasn’t 1969 Cleveland. Water on fire wasn’t requisitely magical but needlessly grotesque — the perceptual shift driven by a growing suspicion of industrial landscapes, one encouraged by the decreasing economic benefits derived from such places. “Ironically, though the burning river would come to represent the costs of industrialization,” explains the authors of “Perceptions of the Burning River: Deindustrialization and Cleveland’s Cuyahoga River”, “the growing reaction to the fire actually represented the process of deindustrialization.”
Deindustrialization — or the social and economic change caused by the reduction of industrial activity — is at its core a process of loss. These losses are touchable, like the loss of jobs and people. By 1969 Cleveland was losing both. The city had lost 60,000 manufacturing jobs from its peak in 1945, a number that would balloon to 142,000 by 2000 — and then to 200,000 today. Cleveland’s population decline was even steeper. The city shed 125,000 people during the 60s, followed by another 177,000 during the 70s. In fact, Cleveland’s rate of loss in the 70s — an attrition of 1 out every 4 residents — was second worst out of America’s big cities, trailing only St. Louis.
The core losses of jobs and people began bubbling up into the social and built landscapes. The city’s housing stock began falling apart. Between 1969 and 1972, nearly 3,500 houses were abandoned in the city. Arsons were rampant too. There were about 1,500 set fires in 1974, another 2000 in 1975, before peaking to nearly 4,500 by 1979. And cars were exploding. In 1976, there were 21 car bombs in Cleveland, and another 16 in its suburbs, making Cleveland the “car bomb capital” of America, according to statistics compiled by Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Unit. The bombs were employed for various reasons, explained Cleveland Magazine writer Edward Whelan in a 1977 piece entitled “The Bombing Business”. But one reason stuck out. With city’s residents “inured to street violence, bombings, with their God-awful terror and indiscriminate destruction, retain their power to startle and shock — the last frontier of violence.”
One can envision, then, the feel of the city compounding: the fear and sadness of deindustrialization growing into the fear and anger of violence that’s cultured when big things present themselves upon little people. Adding insult to injury was the fact that Cleveland became the first major city in America to default on its loans in December of 1978. And so it all adds up to a fast fall from grace. Cleveland became known as the “mistake on the lake”: A failure in the eyes of the motherland that is your host nation.
Cleveland became a punchline. Of geopolitical proportions.
On June 19th, 1981, during a televised black-tie gala for President Reagan, comedian Rich Little stood before the President discussing the specter that was the Soviet Union. “’Mr. President, how do you plan to keep Russia from invading Poland?” Little answered, “I would rename it Cleveland.”
Reagan doubled over in his tuxedo. The room roared.
Eventually, the “Cleveland joke” became an export. “In every country, they make fun of a city,” quipped the Russian-born comedian Yakov Smirnoff. “In U.S. you make fun of Cleveland. In Russia, we make fun of Cleveland.”
Today, the Cleveland joke is old hat. It’s in a long line of American traditions, like blue jeans and bingo. Yet the fact the Cleveland joke still echoes is less illustrative than why it was born in the first place. America psychically charged some meaning into the city. It can be argued that the meaning was less about Cleveland taking it and more about an America needing to give it.
A few years back I got contacted by a writer for the New Yorker about a piece I wrote that discussed the self-flagellating tendencies found in Cleveland and other Rust Belt cities. “Shit happened,” I wrote in that piece. “Shit is still happening.” My point was that a fall from grace had occurred. Deindustrialization was real, and it was long-shadowed. Cleveland shrank. It shriveled. And the fact that it did triggered a projection in America’s mind’s eye that something was wrong with “them”, but not with “us”. In fact, it can be argued that the Rust Belt was the first geography in modern American history to “die”; that is, not grow. Given America is a manifest-destined country whose soul was conceived at the devil’s crossroad of unbridled consumption and growth, the Cleveland joke was but a tip of the ice burgh of the side-eyed derogatoriness the Rust Belt has endured, and continues to endure.
Though it’s one thing to give, and it’s another thing to take, let only self-curate. Why does Cleveland absorb the faults of its host? Why do we care? Because we care too much. “Pride is not the opposite of shame,” said General Ioh, “but it’s source.” Like a former high school football star with a less-than-stellar life, the region has had a hard time of letting go. But the past is ash. Bury the dead so the release earthens the present, if only so we can see what we are and not what we are not.
Which brings us back to the New Yorker reporter. A few days after we talked he wrote a piece entitled “Donald Trump and the Idea of the Rust Belt”. The title implies he correctly latched onto the meat of the matter, or this idea that there is an “idea of the Rust Belt”, or a projected upon reality that — as the writer puts it — “…everyone is vulnerable. The story that is told is about the certainty of loss.” Yet with projection comes the absence of self-reflection, resulting in the fact that the idea of the Rust Belt has become a “floating metaphor” that’s amplified what’s lost at the expense of what’s left, what is, and what will be.
“It’s a little strange to remember the ideas of the Midwest that the Rust Belt has crowded out,” explains the New Yorker writer. “The conviction that the heartland provided a moral counterweight to coastal excess and cynicism.” He’d go on to reference a Jonathan Franzen interview wherein the author remarked: “There is a prolongation of innocence there, a prolongation of childhood, that has to do with the Midwest being just a little bit farther from the rest of the world.” Echoed the writer David Foster Wallace: “There is what would strike many Americans as a bizarre absence of cynicism in the room.”
This is not to say there’s little wrong with America to be cynical about. To that end, it can be argued that Cleveland and the Rust Belt were just ahead of its time. In fact, as the devil makes due and the coastal excess is exposed by the reality that you can’t build a country on the cheap, the lessons learned here will be the insights needed everywhere. To lead, we just need to tear the wool off our eyes to see that our motherland was never really laughing at us, but with us. The Cleveland joke was birthed by a Clevelander after all.
I sense everything that is good and bad about Cleveland in this essay, Richie.
My husband says it captures it all and he misses those days. He tells me that his folks lived on West 91st Street until they also moved out to the suburbs.
It is a beautifully written piece.
Yeah I was raised in central Ohio during this period. Fond memories of once per year my father and I would go to Cleveland for a baseball game, had to be a double header so we could get our monies worth. There were factories of all sorts producing all manner of goods, not only in Cleveland but all the cities. If you didn’t have a job it was because you didn’t want one. I left immediately after high school only to return and grab a degree from good old Kent State and leave again. Can’t imagine ever living anywhere in the rust belt again.
My husband was born in 1956 in Cleveland. He remembers taking the bus, getting a transfer and riding to the stadium to see a game, then riding back when he was 9.
Nine. Sometimes, his older brother (11) went, but not always. Nick liked hockey and would do that to see the Barons play. Before they were NHL.
Poor political leadership?
Cleveland has had only TWO Republican mayors since 1942. There’s your answer if you’re wondering why Cleveland is “the mistake by the lake”.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Cleveland
You forgot to mention the unions.
They go hand-in-hand with democratic regimes … just like Bidet is pushing with the $1.9T ‘stimulus’ …
I live in The Rust Belt. The outter rim of Detroit Metro. The huge landscape of past unbridled industry is seen everywhere along with the decay of production long outsourced. The tragedy is two fold. Unions asking for too much and greedy corporations globalizing the work force. Now we toil in a polluted landscape where good jobs are scarce and corporate ethics even more scarce. One could pinpoint the hyper acceleration of the decay around the late 80’s early 90’s. The huge sucking sound that Ross Perot warned about was already in full motion. All the useful machines from America’s hayday, shipped overseas and sold for pennies on the dollar because Wall Street would not give corporations new loans without “diversifying” their human capitol and asset portfolio. Now, we consume without producing creating a gigantic net loss. Printing out more funny money will not fix what is broken. Sweat must be brought back to America and blue collar jobs that support localized economies. The addiction to profit maximization has undermined Americas ability to produce what it consumes. The Merry Go Round will continue until the government finds out it can’t print a broken gear out of thin air with a machine that is half a world away. Atlas Shrugged.
Why do you not also describe the unions as “greedy?” Because they most certainly were, as least as much so as the corporations,.
You are correct. Cause and effect.
William, Another Detroit native here. Born at Womens Hospital in 1961, still in pretty good touch with the old wreck of a place. I offer a qualification:
Not so much greed as a narrow minded, psychotic insistence on having all the money , right now, without regard to anything else. Eat the seed corn, spend the savings, borrow for daily life, sought by the globalist financiers, enabled by government regulators, and put into practice by corporate strategists and their employees.
Company proposes a 3$ co-pay on Blue Cross? Fuck that, STRIKE! People rebelling against higher costs, fuck that, open a consumer finance arm. Factory wearing out, time to re-tool and re-invest? Fuck that, abandon it. Stick someone else with the mouldering wreck, plenty of cheap land in the exurbs, then Mexico, then China. Marginal employees too difficult to fire due to union and liberal courts? Fuck that, pay them to featherbed, the shareholders are rubes. Bankrupt the company, steal it all, there is NO punishment waiting for you, someone else will offer you big cash to do the same thing again. Just send Senator Whatshisname a check, and go to the Jesse Jackson fundraiser…. you are protected from any harm
And on and on. A culture in decline, and it hasn’t stopped falling yet. Will the descent be arrested before a high velocity impact? That is what we all wonder.
I believe the stories Richey tells about the decline of Cleveland from “Peak Cleveland” in the 1950s are probably reflected amongst many of the midwestern cities that flourished because of the World War II industrialization effort.
The Unions, I’m sure, played their role in driving up costs and benefits to the point it became unprofitable to continue operating. The Corporate interests, I’m sure, were just as greedy and corrupt then as they are now. There’s plenty of blame.
“But it’s a tricky project to pull off. There’s America and its denial of death, if not an outright revulsion of it. We are drawn to happy things. Will anyone care? But then there’s the practicalities. How long do I got? How long do I need?”
https://richey-piiparinen.medium.com/
No peace for you!!
Almost every major city in NJ is Cleveland. And in New York. And lots and lots of other places. America is still a beautiful LAND. Most of the bigger cities? Not so much.
So, now you are the “peace nazi?”
Believe it or not, that is why I am sharing Richey’s blog posts here, aside from his excellent writing and poignant story.
It is the story of St. Louis. Of Milwaukee. Of Minneapolis. Of Topeka. Of Detroit. Other cities where industrialization just seemed to stop with nothing to take its place.
Except entertainment and services. Which works for a while, which is what Rust Belt Chic was all about.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15980782-rust-belt-chic
Another Detroit native and suburban proximity dweller here. So many similarities.
The article is great reading. It brings a melancholy sadness of the valley period of cycles, as opposed to the peaks. Life really is like a sine wave. Ups and Downs.
Detroit had a rep as murder capital for a while, as well as torching houses on Devil’s Night
for a few years.
Let’s not forget the riots in ’67, like in Watts and elsewhere.
Modern day Portland? Seattle? Hah. Been there. Done that.
Pent up rage at the machine is no excuse for destroying your surroundings, and will only fuel the flight of families wanting simple safety and reasonable optimistic outlook.
Law and Order, while not perfect and rife with corruption and injustice, should still be the rule. {Admittedly, that too, is fading fast.}
Old perceptions die hard, and like newspapers, one cannot always find reliable accuracy
from internet stories about locales, especially ones with a negative international narrative rep.
I drive into, and out of Detroit on a daily basis, working with a diverse group of people
in outdoor environments, at churches and schools, distributing food to people in need.
Whether or not that should be done is an argument for another day.
With reasonable caution and situational awareness, finding good places to go and interesting things to do there is not as fraught with danger as the narrative likes to mistakenly trumpet.
The point is, even amidst the blight that can be seen, there are homes and businesses and good people of all races that are trying awfully hard to ignore the cynicism, and work at making things better. A denier can call bullshit, but unless you spend ample time in an environment and experience it first hand, an opinion from afar, based on past events, does not apply current factual reality, and only mistakenly reinforces the negativity of the narrative. End of rant.
It is what I like so much about Richey’s writing. Thanks for sharing… work on the paragraph returns.
https://www.salon.com/2012/05/12/rust_belt_chic_declining_midwest_cities_make_a_comeback/
This one is a good review, I think.
[Piiparinen recently referenced this trend as “Rust Belt chic” in a post on the blog Rust Wire, describing its allure as “the warmth of the faded, and the edge in old iron and steel … part old-world, working culture, like the simple pleasures associated with bagged lunchmeat and beaten boots in the corner. And then there is grit, one of the main genes in the DNA of American coolness.”]
The glory of the rust belt may come again when the whacko leftists start WW III. Nothing like a war to make jobs appear and underhanded government scams disappear.
Greed and laziness, a dangerous combination.
Most jobs were lost to automation, not to the giant sucking you refer to. That is a myth. In 1960 manufacturing employed about 1/2 people, or equivalent to about 80 million today. There is around 13 million employed in manufacturing today. Or a 67 million difference. 67 million jobs did not go offshore – upper limit is around 4 million. So that means around 63 million jobs were lost to automation.
The other thing is that the US remains a mighty manufacturing nation. Manufacturing as a % of gdp remains largely unchanged over the decades. Your post implies otherwise.
Manufacturing was not lost as much as it was automated. The narrative that went overseas is 90% false. But it is easier for the middle class to blame foreigners than understand what actually happened, and keep the false hope alive that somehow it can be resurrected. It cannot.
Manufacturing gets around 2.5% more efficient each year – more is made by fewer. That will continue. Any manufacturing that returns will return to highly automated factories, and will result in few jobs.
You’ve been saying all that since The Beginning of TBP. Is it not wearing you out?? Once people decide on truth –their truth– it is damned near impossible to make headway. That poster will be making the same comments ten years from now.
Pontius Pilate should have asked “Who gives a Rat’s Ass about truth?”
I thought that while I was writing it. But hey, people need to be exposed to the truth now and again.
I get somewhat disappointed with the narratives I see around TBP at the moment, which cannot be supported with fact, and which twist the truth. It is bad when the left do it, and damn near as bad when anyone else does it, too.
Feelings are not facts.
Thanks Stuck.
I think there is some truth to what LLPOH says about automation, however… that doesn’t explain all these big corporations moving their operations into the midwest here.
I’m rather disgusted by where my investigation into child traffickers has taken me. I ended up reading stories about trailer parks that could literally be anywhere. Even in Podunk.
Now, think about something for me Stuckenheimer (and the guy down under if he so chooses)?
If you work at the Nestle-Purina company in Podunk, Nowhere, Misery (south of Aquilla) and you discover that the US Supreme Court is hearing arguments from Nestle Corporation about why their use of child slaves in South Africa picking and cleaning Cocoa beans is not anyone in the United States’s business, and, by the way?
It probably isn’t just occuring at Nestle…
So, the question I’m asking whomever might be willing to respond?
Should the SCOTUS rule on a bunch of child slaves Nestle Corporation had working for them in South Africa? Aren’t they a “US Citizen?”
Nestle is Swiss owned. Does SCOTUS have jurisdiction?
Boycott Nestle!!! Just be sure to boycott all the companies they own also …
— Lean Cuisine, Stouffers, Haagen-Dazs, and DiGiorno, Purina, Fancy Feast, Friskies, Pro Plan, Alpo, Beneful, Poland Spring, Perrier, S. Pellegrino, Vittel, and PureLife.
It is all mind-boggling, isn’t it?
Well, the argument from the ex-slaves, as I gather it, is this: Since Nestle USA managers were involved in the personnel decisions and visited the operations there, they charge that Nestle USA “aided and abetted” the use of children as slaves at their plantations. (You know how them little critters can shimmy up a tree and gather them beans!)
In other words, they must have known they had lots of unaccompanied children working in the fields unless they were ignoring it. They sort of admitted to “ignoring” it.
(Hey, when your whole payroll for the year is less than a thousand bucks, why would you ask?)
On the other hand, the adults working the plantations often had their own children working with them unpaid.
Even I can see how that would be problematic. Only parents can force children into slavery at the plantation. In fact? The children enslaved there were sold by members of their own families, often their mothers. Really confusing, huh?
The list of American companies that need boycotted would be nearly all of them. They are nearly all corrupt. At the start of the controla virus in 2020 I started taking note of companies that didn’t share my life’s standards. I was going to do without all the offenders of my sensabilities. I figured out if I followed through with my plan I would likely have to live under the bridge in a cardboard box made in China sleeping on a bed of leaves and doing without food and clean water. The corporations controlling this nation are basically leftist run monopolies and leave only a very few inferior choices. With this lack of choices I have made my decision. I do without except those things necessary to function in life. No purchases of items that are not necessary. Starve the beast. Needs are purchased by holding my nose and sending the money to the beast. Best I know how to do.
Do you have a charcoal grill? Did you know in addition to burning down large swaths of the Amazon, that Brazil uses Child Slaves to make it?
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Did you put a banana in your cereal recently, or enjoy a banana shake? Did you know thousands of children are enslaved in South America and Philippines in the banana business?
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You like your gold jewelry? Don’t even get me started on that!! (I am allowed to be Self Righteous cuz a haven’t worn a single piece of jewelry in the past 20+ years.)
Estimates (YMMV)
— 152 million children in child labor
— 73 million were in hazardous work•
— 48% below age 12
— slaving away at carpets, coal, salt, dozens of fruits and vegetables, gold, bricks, leather, garments, gold, tin, granite, and a bunch of other things we all come in contact with every day.
That $15 toaster from Walmart comes at a steep price.
There will be a day of reckoning. And it will be terrible.
I hope I added to your happiness this Easter Sunday.
You did! You did!
What part of “Thou Shalt Not” is so damn hard to understand?
Oh, looks, morons voting facts down because their feewings are hurt. TBP morons are no better than the left morons. At least there are fewer of them, as a lot of smart folks prowl TBP. But morons are morons. Anyone who cannot recognize facts but instead rely on false narrative and feewings will eventually get what they deserve, and good and hard at that.
Let me toss something out here…
During my almost 30 years in the Oklahoma City area, there was a very large General Motors Plant operating just outside the south fence of Tinker AFB. Not long after I left the service, production was reduced and in 2005, the plant closed.
https://www.normantranscript.com/gm-plans-to-close-oklahoma-city-plant/article_aa94588d-347a-5600-a41a-2ba788e9c712.html
Now, around the time the plant closed, I went to work for a company that did program management type of analysis for the General over at “The Depot” at Tinker. Within a few months, we had all sorts of data showing that the old General Motors manufacturing plant would prove to be a good Return on Investment for the Federal Government to purchase and turn into additional workspace for helicopters and engines.
I was at a private luncheon where the General and her team promoted the idea to local business community leaders. She (General Fedder) proclaimed the building to be as perfect for the USAF as if it were built for the USAF.
It was NOT a WWII facility as some might believe… it was built to try to avoid union regulations in the seventies, but the unions followed them south.
I can’t speak about Cleveland or the rust belt. But I operated a business servicing small and medium sized businesses in the Northeast. New England regions and cities were supported by big plants like General Electric, Raytheon, General Dynamics and others. Those plants ran 3 shifts. But all throughout those cities and towns were other businesses making parts for or otherwise servicing the needs of the plants.
Specialty machine shops, perhaps with anywhere from 10-100 employees would make parts for either the plant itself or for another larger supplier. Much of this was possible because the U.S. had a law or rule that all defense components had to be manufactured on U.S. soil by U.S. firms. That was changed either by G.H.W. Bush or B. Clinton.
Soon thereafter GE no longer had 3 shifts, all the signage along the boulevards in these once great small cities went from English to either Spanish or some S Asian language, and all the backstreets which once thrived with metal shops, scrapyards, and assorted support businesses changed not for the better.
I think you are speaking of NAFTA?
Good to see the Ben Lurken group out and about.
And, by the way? It wasn’t a giant sucking sound… a slow hissing sigh that flattened the industry already besieged by automation and union overreach.
There, I beat LLPOH to the punch.
The Northern part of our state was once covered with industries making things the world wanted. Basically now a group of service sector low wage jobs now. I worked among the refineries and Mills and that time. Mostly just vacant polluted lots now, uncared for and unused.
I bought a truck near Cleveland a few years ago. It was listed a the cleanest 95 in the rust belt. I was happy with the purchase,
It must have had a good undercoating! there are many reasons it is the “rust” belt.
Cleveland struck an Iceberg and sank losing half the people. The Berg was greedy Unions and Owners. The article never mentioned Blacks, Democrats, Socialism, the ZOG, NAFTA, etc. Wonder why. I worked for a car wire manufacturing factory in Cairo Ga, no Union; it was just owned by Greedy MF’ers in Chicago who shipped every piece of equipment to Mexico in 1984 to increase their profits.
RHS – almost certainly not to increase profits. Almost certainly to match the competitor’s prices and to keep from going broke. Manufacturing is not very profitable as competition is fierce.
I have overseen closure and relocation of plants. And not once was it because of greedy mothers. It was always -always- because the plants were not viable, either because they were losing money, or because competition was undercutting them and to compete costs had to be cut. Costs to close and relocate a plant are considerable, and no one will incur such unless there is a serious reason to do so.
one thing no one ever really discusses on manufacturing in heavily automated facilities is energy input cost.
the “manpower” is coming from somewhere and has a cost.
we got some new automated manufacturing facilities due to the “energy independence” drill baby drill benefit and few re-shoring tax breaks from trump…even those plants still have to hire people just 2.5% less of them a year.
Todd – Right you are. low cost energy is required for the modern world to exist. Without low cost, easily transportable energy (ie gas, diesel, etc) the population of the world would suffer a very quick and heavy die off. People would still be working the fields if it were not for cheap energy.
The film “American Splendor”, starring Paul Giamatti, shows Cleveland as an absolutely depressing, piece of “you know what” hole place to live in the ’70s-00s. But, a well done flick, recommended viewing
BTW, more than occaisionally here in the SC Lowcountry, you’ll see an oval rear window sticker with 4 letters on it…”GBTO”. ‘Nuf sed. We don’t give a crap about how you do things up there.
That was harsh.
Meant to be, period. My Life Partner is a wonderful girl from the poorest county in Indiana. Got an MBA/JD while raising 4 children. Became the Chief Compliance Officer/Board Secretariat of what is now Voya. There’s a HUGE difference between Northerners & Yankees. She did undergrad at IN State, they called Cheercago “The District” and would have ZERO to do with them.
Having dated an Upper East Side girl 1996-2004, I ran the gamut. Most from that part of town were OK. Pittsburgh is OK. Otherwise, screw the rest, especially OH.
Well.
The used to have GBTO nights at the local baseball stadium in Charleston
I’m going to have to ask my Cleveland-born-and-bred (Go Browns) husband about GBTO.
Democrats. Unions. Blacks pouring in. Reliance on manufacturing which is relentless in its pursuit of cost reduction and automation.
Who would have ever thought that those combinations would create a shithole?
The exact same thing happened in Buffalo where I’ve lived all my life. I remember going to a football game in Cleveland in the 70’s and noticing the stadium had the same architecture as the old one in Buffalo. You do have some cool stuff now on the waterfront. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is one of my favorite trips.
I think they did a great job with the R&R Hall.
Yes, and the Great Lakes Science Museum…
I worked at the Chevy plant in the late 70’s. Ten thousand employees at the time. Today that plant produces the same or more with less than a thousand.
Mike – that is the point I am making. The US manufactures as much more or less as it ever did. But with 10% of the workers (ok more like 15% of the workers). Manufacturing is a self-eliminating process. It gets more and more efficient. In the ultimate scenario, manufacturing will be done with no human work being performed. AI and robots will do more and more.
The last I looked some manufacturers (thought it was BMW) are able to make engines with the only human work being to start the bolts in the threads, as robots will cross thread them. They will crack that soon enough. Manufacturing is not coming back. I said it when people thought Trump would manage it, and I was right. It is never going to be a source of high employment again.
Right, but there’s also the issue of companies using these automated plants from China and elsewhere instead of opening them here.
That sucks, but it is a tiny fraction of overall US manufacturing. And it reflects US consumer buying habits more so than anything else. If people are willing to buy cheap foreign shit, that is what companies will provide.
As I said, US manufacturing as a percentage of GDP is little changed over the decades. China has nibbled at the edges, but China will go through the same thing – jobs will plummet as they automate.
Ah, Cleveland. I got out after 38 years. When I go back to visit, I’m struck by the low level depression attitude there amongst almost everyone.
I remember when the river burned. I saw the destruction as the “sucking sound” took all of those jobs first to Mexico, and then on to China. Living wage working at McDonalds? It would have been crazy then, as there were always decent factory jobs.
Sure the air smelled bad in Slavic Village, but everyone was working. Damn the globalists…
When my husband and I visited last, we were taken on a tour of the ethnic areas by cousin “Vic” who grew up in the neighborhoods.
The food is incredible in those old homes turned into restaurants. There’s a Polish restaurant which literally has its lawn for parking. The food is incredible.