QOTD: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MOST INTERESTING HISTORICAL BATTLE?

Some examples:

Top 14 Decisive Ancient Battles in HistoryBattle of Plataea (479 BC)

German flamethrowers at Battle of Verdun Osprey Publishing
German soldiers use flame throwers during the Battle of Verdun – one of most horrifying aspects of already truly horrible war (image from ‘The Flamethrower’ by Chris McNab © Osprey Publishing, part of Bloomsbury Publishing)

Passchendaele Battlefield A picture of the Passchendaele battlefield (image from ‘World War I’ by Ken Hills © Cherrytree Press Ltd)

Battle of NormandyBattle of Normandy

Waterloo: The True Story of Four Days, Three Armies and Three Battles by Bernard CornwellWaterloo

medieval battles
Joan of Arc leads a charge at the Siege of Orléans.

Elizabeth I Tilbury ImageSpanish Armada

Unfortunately, history is loaded with them. What do you think is the most interesting historical battle?

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Eddy O
Eddy O
March 27, 2022 12:01 pm

Interesting historical battle? It must have been my third divorce.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Eddy O
March 27, 2022 12:23 pm

Thank God I’ve only had one! 35 years ago and occasionally I still have dreams that are haunting.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Brewer55
March 27, 2022 8:32 pm

By the way … ‘dreams that are haunting’ are generally called nightmares … just sayin’ …

kfg
kfg
  Eddy O
March 27, 2022 12:33 pm

Next time just find a woman you don’t like and buy her a house.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  kfg
March 27, 2022 3:25 pm

Don’t forget to throw $10 – $20K to a lawyer to make it official.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  TN Patriot
March 27, 2022 5:51 pm

Agincourt.
5000 English longbowmen massacred
25,000 French including 2,000 heavy knights.

It change medieval warfare.

Salamis was as lopsided a victory on the naval side.
The vastly outnumbered Greeks under Themistocles
destroyed the Xerxes navy and ended the threat of the Persians
forever.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Colorado Artist
March 27, 2022 8:35 pm

I don’t remember the battle — but my History 101 — History of Western Civilization — professor made an interesting point: the first battle in which steel swords were used against bronze swords was a real bloodbath … 

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anthony Aaron
March 28, 2022 3:53 am

as well as imaginary. steel swords evolved very slowly as blacksmiths slowly learned some methods of producing stronger iron – it was centuries before they had worked out a reliable process for what today we would call case hardening, and centuries more for there to be any widespread theories about how or why it worked. Meanwhile cheap swords were made of iron, not steel, which was an inferior material to bronze in almost all aspects except price. There was no single battle where steel versus bronze settled the outcome, but rather an era many generations long where starting from the bottom ranks, iron weapons replaced bronze weapons.
Also, swords in ancient times were not used in swordfights the way we think of them from the movies or even from the middle ages onward. Sword on sword clashing and banging around, was not the typical use – tactics in part dictated by the unsuitability of bronze swords to that kind of combat, and which tactics evolved very slowly lagging behind the emergence of iron swords by centuries. Look at bronze age and iron age swords. The majority of them are short (2-3 feet long) and are either optimized for thrusting _or_ for chopping, but almost never shaped to be able to do both. The chopping swords were much more like machetes than swords as we think of them today- single cutting edge, often curved downward into the direction of the cut, often a bit heavier/wider right around the typical area of impact for some more inerta there. Most sword work was chopping and hacking and was the second or third weapon to bring out after arrows and spears had been used. thrusting swords might be better considered as long daggers or bayonets than what we think of as swords.
Read ancient accounts of fighting. The spear, either a short javelin like spear (ultimate form the roman pilium) or a long pike like spear (ultimate form , greek phalanx fighting) was considered the first and most important weapon. The sword was more a sidearm, or else took on a ceremonial role for e.g. officers and high ranking brass.
There were a few swords in ancient times which did sort of remind us of our concept of swords and which seem to have been more suited to fighting with one the way we would think more sword-like- those are ironically bronze age swords, not iron!
The way we consider swords today evolved in the last years of the decline of the roman world. Yes by then iron blades were reliably carburized to make a kind of steel. Roman swords were almost always short and optimized for stabbing rather than chopping, greek swords were more often chopping swords. The barbarian invasions saw a shift in tactics and a shift in styles of swords to eventually favor longer two-sided slashing swords which we consider rightly to be typical of the middle ages. Until the late middle ages, though, steel was a mystery. meteoric iron was more prized for a sword (its high nickel content making it much tougher and the mysterious cosmic aspect never failed to impress) until the famous ‘damascus’ and later in the renaissance ‘toledo’ etc steels became more widespread. long thin duelling and piercing swords like rapiers were only possible after steel was good enough that they wouldnt deform or break in use, especially for poking through the gaps in plate armor. but by then nobody had seen a bronze sword in maybe close to two thousand years.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  kfg
March 27, 2022 5:44 pm

Find the one person on earth that you hate the most and give her 1/2 your stuff.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Eddy O
March 27, 2022 6:52 pm

Q: Why is marriage like a tornado?
A: It starts with a lot of sucking and blowing…then you lose your house.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  YourAverageJoe
March 27, 2022 10:19 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I know a million jokes and never heard that one.
Bravo.

Suds
Suds
March 27, 2022 12:06 pm

Midway.

Naval and aviation strategies, horrific weather, early damage, a rally, momentum swings,
great loss of life, kamikazes, and a decisive triumph at the end.
A turning point, in the Pacific Theater of Operations.

And the movie about it, is one of those that I watch every time it is broadcast.

Foot in the Forest
Foot in the Forest
  Suds
March 27, 2022 12:13 pm

Dick Best. Naval aviator extraordinaire.

pyrrhuis
pyrrhuis
  Suds
March 27, 2022 12:55 pm

All because of what the Japanese called the Divine Wind…

Brewer55
Brewer55
March 27, 2022 12:24 pm

The Battle of the Bulge. Against all odds, the 101st airborne held the ground.

Mustang
Mustang
  Brewer55
March 27, 2022 1:02 pm

Amen 55. And in such a horrible, vicious, bitter Winter. Screaming Eagles Rock!!!

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Brewer55
March 27, 2022 5:45 pm

“Nuts”

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Brewer55
March 27, 2022 8:38 pm

Two of my mother’s cousins were in the 101st in both D-Day and The Battle of the Bulge … thankfully they both made it back in one piece.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Anthony Aaron
March 27, 2022 10:21 pm

My great Uncle was a 17 year old runner on Iwo Jima and Sipan who ran messages
from one dead man to another and was CONSTANTLY shot at. I have the .30 carbine
shell he picked up after killing his first Jap. He made it home and became a dentist
and a scion of his town in Kansas. Amazing.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
March 27, 2022 12:25 pm

Kadesh

kfg
kfg
March 27, 2022 12:32 pm

The Hot Gate, The Fennel Field, The Saltwater (Thermopylae, Marathon, Salamis).

All study of modern battle leads to the Greco-Persian Wars.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  kfg
March 27, 2022 5:52 pm

Posted before I saw this.
Agreed.

norman franklin
norman franklin
March 27, 2022 12:35 pm

The battle of Corinth. The union seizing the Iron Cross was the death nell for the South.

Melty
Melty
  norman franklin
March 27, 2022 12:47 pm

That along with Vicksburg. Losing the MS river was a big one

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
March 27, 2022 12:44 pm

Frozen Chosin. Dak To. Ia Drang. Almost any Pacific Island.

kfg
kfg
  Harrington Richardson
March 27, 2022 12:59 pm

“Frozen Chosin.”

Anabasis 2.0

pyrrhuis
pyrrhuis
March 27, 2022 12:54 pm

Charles Martel’s victory at Tours versus the moslem invasion army…We don’t know a lot about it, but Archangel Michael is said to have appeared at the turning point..

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  pyrrhuis
March 27, 2022 5:54 pm

Western history would be VASTLY different had Martel not prevailed.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Colorado Artist
March 28, 2022 4:04 am

the real fight against islam was in the east where byzantium weathered and pushed back invasions of that scope and force on an almost _annual_ basis for a century!
with occasional extra highlights like the great sieges of constantinople in 654, 678, and 717.. then a kinfe in the back in 1204, and the fat lady sang in 1453.

Mustang
Mustang
March 27, 2022 12:59 pm

#1. Battle of the Bulge
#2. Pearl Harbor
#3. Battle for Hamburger Hill

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
March 27, 2022 1:07 pm

Too many battles and different historical eras to pick only one.

1. Battle of the Bulge
2. Battle of Yorktown
3. Battle of Port Arthur

I’d also say the skirmishes between the German U-boats and the British Q ships were really interesting because it was the beginning of a new era of naval warfare but there’s no specific battles to name because they were only a small part of Germany’s unrestricted submarine warfare.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
March 27, 2022 1:08 pm

Real or Myth? Regardless, it’s an interesting story.

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Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
March 27, 2022 1:14 pm

Battle between good vs. evil.

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MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Abigail Adams
March 27, 2022 1:35 pm

The never-ending battle to figure out whose on which side….

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  MrLiberty
March 27, 2022 1:38 pm

Ha! I just responded to you below at the same time. 🙂

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Abigail Adams
March 27, 2022 1:40 pm

I think you won the prix AA

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
March 27, 2022 1:33 pm

The one we’re in right now. It’s been going on for a long time, so there is lots of history.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  MrLiberty
March 27, 2022 1:35 pm

Hence the good vs. evil. Long battle and every human is impacted…internally & externally.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
March 27, 2022 1:38 pm

Interesting or world-changing?

Interesting has to be the battle of Agincourt:
Battle of Agincourt, (October 25, 1415), decisive battle in the Hundred Years’ War (1337–1453) that resulted in the victory of the English over the French. The English army, led by King Henry V, famously achieved victory in spite of the numerical superiority of its opponent.
Date: October 25, 1415
Key People: Jean II le Meingre Boucicaut Henry …
Context: Hundred Years’ War: It emphasised the supremacy of the English Long Bow as the ultimate weapon of mass destruction of its day. As I was an avid Archer in my young days, but failed to pull more than 50lbs, I rated myself a weakling in this regard. In the end I went for ‘brain power’ but missed the target.

World Changing: (via Google)
15 Epic Battles that Changed the Course of History
The Battle of Muye (1046 BC) …
The Battle of Marathon (490 BC) …
The Battle of Thermopylae (480 BC) …
The Battle of Arbela (331 BC) …
The Battle of Zama (202 BC) …
The Battle of Tours (732 AD) …
The Battle of Hastings (1066) …
The Siege of Orleans (1429)

Take your pick! 🙂

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Austrian Peter
March 27, 2022 3:23 pm

If only I had the time! I have just got delivered a copy of :

A must read now as my Financial Jigsaw Part 2 is now in process! Many articles to come.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Austrian Peter
March 27, 2022 5:56 pm

I really must learn to read the comments before posting.
My 1st choice. Agincourt.

Also centuries later, The Battle Of Britain echoes that.
Goering just about had Britain air power beaten by bombing
her air fields, and for reasons unknown, (Providence?) he switched to bombing
cities instead. It allowed the RAF to keep the skies free and prevented
a German invasion landing on English shores.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Colorado Artist
March 27, 2022 9:08 pm

Yet windsor castle was never bombed, allegedly because hitler wanted to make it his home. Bull. Lizards hid in the dungeons.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Colorado Artist
March 27, 2022 9:18 pm

Excellent choice CA. Hitler switched to bombing London after Churchill amassed a small group of Whitley bombers and made the extreme effort of bombing Berlin. Hitler was so incensed and made his famous speech, September 4 1940.

“Back on September 1st, the Luftwaffe Staff Operations IA had issued an order that listed thirty British factories that were to be destroyed. Each one of these made many vital parts for the manufacture of aircraft. RAF airfields it stated were to continually be attacked. But the German plans were still going astray. The Luftwaffe had failed to destroy the Royal Air Force in two weeks as originally planed. They had also failed to wipe the Royal Air Force from the skies in preparation for the invasion of Britain. The Battle of Britain was now in its 55th day, and it now appeared more than ever that plans were now to be made to make an attack on London itself.

The British War Cabinet was now convinced of this more than ever now. Attacks on the British capital could not be very far off. Kesselring earlier at the meeting with Göring and Sperle had mentioned that the time had come when the German Air Force should now make its attacks on London, but this was still not favoured by Göring who still thought that he could crush the RAF whereas Sperle thought that caution should be implemented as the British air force had more aircraft than the Luftwaffe had been led to believe, and he was right.”
https://www.battleofbritain1940.net/0034.html

Erwin Rommel
Erwin Rommel
March 27, 2022 3:05 pm

German invasion of Russia during ww2, classic over reach of their supply lines. Damn shame no one learned from that little mis adventure. ” 2 weeks to flatten the curve” Supply lines stretched around the world and back turned off and on like a light switch. Only someone who has never moved a box across a room let alone around the world would buy that crap.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Erwin Rommel
March 27, 2022 3:29 pm

“Rommel knew the time had come for a strategic withdrawal, but Hitler ordered him to stand his ground regardless. Thus the chance to fall back and properly regroup was missed, resulting in unnecessary loses for the Afrika Korps.” As we said at the time: “Pity about Rommel” a brilliant General:
https://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/defeat/defeat-desert.htm

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Erwin Rommel
March 27, 2022 6:02 pm

Napoleon should have been studied harder.
I’m certain Rommel argued against the plan
until the English were defeated.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
March 27, 2022 3:33 pm

One that comes from our beginning was Washington crossing the Delaware River on Christmas night 1776 to attack the British at Trenton. So much could have gone wrong and it would have ended the revolution at the very start, but Providence smiled on our greatest general and gave him a much needed victory that bolstered the spirits of the young country.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
March 27, 2022 3:48 pm

I’m embarrassed. So long ago I read all 15 volumes of Battles of the US Navy in the Pacific by Morison.
Retention is pathetic. Hawley was fooled into steaming North. The last ditch effort of the Imperial Jap navy with its biggest battleships. Our last battleship formation at the time of writing. Battle of ??????

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
  Two if by sea.
March 27, 2022 10:26 pm

Leyte Gulf

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Two if by sea.
March 28, 2022 9:04 pm

Battle off Samar when the task force Taffy 3 when a few destroyers and destroyer escorts and small carriers face about a dozen capital ships and a dozen destroyers. Check out the name Samuel B Roberts, a destroyer escort w/a pair of 5 inch guns shooting it out with a Japanese cruiser.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
  Anonymous
March 30, 2022 1:29 pm

Precisely.

Gryf
Gryf
March 27, 2022 4:08 pm

Gettysburg. “The Killer Angels” by Michael Shaara opened my eyes to the Civil War, or the War of Northern Agression. Robert E. Lee, unbeaten and suffering from hubris, attacked the Yankees on the high ground. Well protected but out of ammo, soldiers from Maine, led by their officer, made a bayonet attack on the enemy below them. The rest is history or myth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Gryf
March 27, 2022 5:35 pm

John Bell Hood asked for permission to seize Little Round Top on arrival at Gettysburg which was denied. Should have taken it without asking.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Anonymous
March 27, 2022 6:07 pm

If you have never visited the Gettysburg battlefield, make it a priority.
You can’t imagine what a small place Little Round Top is and
how close the Devil’s Den is to it. Col. Chamberlin understood it’s
value and led the bayonet charge that broke the siege and held the Union line
it defended.

Gryf
Gryf
  Anonymous
March 27, 2022 6:11 pm

Good point. However, the Union artillery was well stocked with everything from cannon balls to close range scatter shot which they used effectively. Lee sent his men across open ground and suffered heavy losses. The Mainers extended their line to prevent a flanking attack. Out of ammo they counter attacked. It was do or die for them and the Confederates facing them retreated. Supposedly, this was the turning point in the battle. Who knows? I sure don’t .

Ginger
Ginger
  Gryf
March 27, 2022 6:59 pm

The South would have rolled up the Union like an old carpet as that was the Union’s far left flank and nothing in reserves behind them. Mead wanted to bolt that night, but Hancock would not go. The next day Lee attacked the center which Hancock held, and that was the high water mark of the Confederacy.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Gryf
March 27, 2022 10:29 pm

It most certainly was.
Picket’s Charge is potboiler novel rot.
Little Round Top was indeed the turning point.

Ginger
Ginger
  Anonymous
March 27, 2022 6:42 pm

For some reason Lee and Longstreet were at odds, will never know why. Some had said Lee had a heart attack or something like that, and Longstreet just did not want to fight.
Little Round Top would have been taken if Longstreet had started out earlier, but had turned his column of which Hood was part back because he thought he was being observed, then started again later in the day and it was very hot. This all occurred on the second day, cannons from the ridge were used against Pickett-Pettigrew the next day.

I mow a cemetery that that has CSA NC 26th Regiment Veterans buried in it. They were the only ones to break into the Union center on the last day. My Great-Grandfather fought on the first day and helped over-run the Union in Gettysburg, He was part of the NC 30th and nineteen years old.

norman franklin
norman franklin
  Ginger
March 27, 2022 7:09 pm

So much special and sacred ground throughout the south. I visited some of it when I was stationed in GA & NC. Always felt in awe in the presence of such determined men. Cool story about your Great Grandfather.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 27, 2022 4:15 pm

Interesting? Hmm. Not sure how to interpret that. Consequential?

Battle of Tours 732

Sieges of Vienna 1529 & 1683

Mel
Mel
March 27, 2022 4:58 pm

Alexander the Great and his relatively small number of heavy cavalry against the Persian Empire, at either Issus or
Guagamela.
Cavalry tactics were never the same after Alexander.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
March 27, 2022 5:00 pm

I think I am battle-illiterate. Have to look up and learn about some of these ones since I have never heard of them.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 27, 2022 5:04 pm

Well, the first World War was a wash, only 8 survivors. The 2nd is just now starting in earnest. Thank God it will be the Last.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
March 27, 2022 5:16 pm

My vote is for Antietam. Antietam is the dividing line between First Generational Warfare and Second Generational Warfare. Being the bloodiest day in US military history is what prompted everyone to rethink how wars should be fought with Sherman and his Total War giving the world a hint (a hint the Germans would notice) as to what Third Generational Warfare would look like.

World War Zeke (Astoria)
World War Zeke (Astoria)
March 27, 2022 5:26 pm

this decade… Battle of Davos: DeSantis Remnant versus Neuborg Collective

JGS
JGS
March 27, 2022 5:48 pm

The battle that “Two weeks to flatten the curve” is leading to.

credit
credit
March 27, 2022 7:01 pm

The Battle of Beaumont Hamel

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
March 27, 2022 8:46 pm

We had to read the Latin of ‘Caesar’s War Commentaries’ in high school Latin class and then translate it into English.

There were so many battles during Caesar’s leadership — and, when you read about more than 100,000 enemy dead of hand-to-hand combat, the grim reality of war truly comes to the front of your consciousness.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 27, 2022 11:06 pm

Pydna.

When the Roman Legion decisively defeated the Macedonian Phalanx. An inflexion point in history, rather than a feel-good for the victor empire (like most of the above).

How was the combined arms Phalanx of Alexander–dominant for hundreds of years–defeated?

A Roman centurion threw his own divine standard across the pike wall and his men dropped their swords to clamor through by hand, forming the decisive breach.

The Duke of New York
The Duke of New York
March 27, 2022 11:17 pm

thermopylae

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 28, 2022 4:12 am

thermopyles/marathon/plataia/salamis – without these events the east would have snuffed out western civilization just as it was getting on its feet.

gaugamela – without this event, greek civilization would have never flooded the east – and the whole development of both east and west would have followed differently.

jarmuk river – this is the battle where islam first broke out of the desert. if they’d have lost this fight, it would have lost momentum just as it was getting started, and in all likelihood have dissolved back into desert clans’ infighting.

lexington/concord – the first truly different idea of the organization of society and limited government, certainly on any scale beyond that of a city-state, stood up and took its first steps

the battle we are in right now – it will decide whether tyranny and evil swallow the whole world, right before it all collapses into rubble, or whether the living world, free humans will break apart all the empires and move forward with a great spiritual awakening. the industrial age will collapse regardless, but it could be a nightmare or it could be a rebirth. it’s being decided in our times.

Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
March 28, 2022 6:43 am

Last night, with the mrs. I survived ………mostly intact.

morongobill
morongobill
March 28, 2022 12:26 pm

Battle of Cannae.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 29, 2022 1:58 am

Great pics. Maccabees revolt